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I feel we need to be concern if " any company that has yet to announce any mass ordering of chips from foundries now or a few weeks earlier, we may be worry and anxious if they could deliver on time. like "Rampion" says we need to know whether the Chips has been order?? [b]They only need to let us know if the Chips has been order to calm all our nerves.[/b] " Sounds like from their latest newsletter they are still tweaking the Asic Chips??
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with production setup costs minimal in china a $17 per gh/s rate is possible and real. Only $17 for 1 GH/S.
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I was being completely serious with my 75,000 offer. I think that is a very fair value given all the variables.
The going rate is now $17 per gh/s, if you have 500GH/S , is only worth less than $8500 or 85 bitcoin more or less.!!Only 85 BTC |
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Just some speculation... I find it incredibly odd that two conferences were held at the same day at two different cities. I can't help but suspect that this is how it went down: asicminer had the whole event planned ahead of time. But once they found out somebody was trying to steal the limelight from them with some push for pre ordering vaporware, they got pissed off. It's like a direct challenge to their undisputed no.1 hashing power in the world.
And so, they reached into their deep R&D pockets to pull out a pcb board design from Avalon chips and slipped it into the show. People who get the hint will understand that while others are taking money for vaporware, asicminer already have a finished product that they aren't even bothered to sell yet.
Wouldn't be surprising... where else will they get 1P hash rate without factoring some contribution from Avalon chips? Who else would be faster at successfully developing clone asic machines from chips? They probably had a batch 1 reverse engineered ahead of time too.
Great they already Reverse Engineer Avalon Asic Chip. |
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No refund, that is very scary  where is josh the inaba |
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Obviously, finish shipping within this month is mission impossible.
BitSyncom will say, hey guys, I said "should", not "definitely".
It does seem like a stretch but he did technically say "should" and not "definitely". https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240189.msg2562419#msg2562419I am still holkding out hope that Batch3 orders start shipping in early July. I believe you must disappoint about Batch#3's shipping date. You guys should have Avalon China Address, go pay them a visit and collect your miner. I am quite sure they are in Beijing/Shanghai or Shenzhen.  |
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Or... maybe there's just nothing to find and BFL isn't some sinister black box that some people so desperately and pathetically want it to be? Ever consider that option?
Some people so desperately want to find wrongdoing and maleficence somewhere, even where none exists, that they will believe anything. Any sort of rationality and intelligent thought was lost long ago.
The fact that super scammer, anti-semetic, racist like Bryan Micon is the best and most quoted person in the article should be indicative that there's not really anything sinister going on that isn't part of some mentally unbalanced persons tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
sounds like kind of delusional mental state wasn't he? |
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Amen...141 posts, and lost., lol got lost in wonderland. thought he highly promoted himself? |
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I think this model is largely solved by the various group buy opportunities as well as the DIYers with chips. Also, don't forget that the more customers there are the more customer support and overhead that is required. And I'm sure with the model you presented there will be dozens of people screaming about how they didn't get their miners 3 seconds after they have been paid off. Who wants to deal with that?
part and parcel of any business support is your job. if you want to set up your business don't be lazy in support. group buy is for benefit of the person who initiate them and are for profit purposes. |
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where is Josh, they seem to be some serious accusations about you?
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they need other payment options and not help fund their venture by pre order.
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Good news that more competer join this game.
More players in developing the Asic Chip will help to lower down the price per gh/s. The next batch of suppliers should target $15 and below per gh/s. They get to sell more units and decentralized bitcoin mining. |
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won't be surprise when 1gh/s goes down to $12 or $10 competition is good !!
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Avalon and butterfly was using customer miner for their own mining for months and kept the coins to themselves. honest and down to earth asic mining hardware company will never do unethical stuffs, really would help decentralized mining and make bitcoin mining a fair game. by the way we would get a couple of mining hardware if this is another payment methods.
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You better be prepared to answer a lot of questions just to let you know a head of time. would you have an open day to visit your facility and show case your Asic Miner? Do you plan to have STOCKS on hand before taking order? What payments options do you plan on having, paypal, credit and debit cards, STP, Perfect Money, Payza, okpay, bank wire, bitcoin, instalments plan?
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In order for me to keep my pre-orders Josh is making me do the following:
WAIT WAT? poor guy he have to submit to the all powerful inaba to keep his order. |
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kncminer, to stop this buzz, you should proof you work and show us your miner prototypes asap. Upload your videos. Everyone is waiting for it pretty long. Please bring the proof of your work to the public now! Show us what you are capable of.
Good call for them to show more proof of their work and pay them when the mining hardware are ready to be collected not earlier. |
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Each day that passes I have more doubts.
A few days ago I make a purchase order 3 jupiter. But I find it hard to pay 100% in advance.
500 Mars x $ 2,795.00 $ 1,397,500.00
500 Jup x $ 6,995.00 $ 3,497,500.00
Sum nearly 5 million. To make the project and the first delivery will not need that much money.
If for example the 500 buyers of mars as it is more than likely after paying $ 2,800 for a FPGA want to buy jupiter.
Many users will buy directly Jupiter.
In that position mars buyers receive if Jupiter 500 purchases made before.
If I have the order 55 of Jupiter and the other the 55th of Mars who receives the Jupiter in the position 55 of the first batch.
Kncminer I'm visiting this week, but I have very many questions.
Sorry my english
Surely is safer and better if we could make partial payment or pay only in August 2013 when the Jupiter and Saturn are about to be assemble and shipped. I am certain knc can help out so that their product can spread out to more users or buyers. Clearly I have to send more than $ 20,000 in advance is very risk. ORSoc I trust is a company that has worked with FPGA and ASIC for years. But the total cost of the project and the manufacture of the first batch. Is not greater than $ 1,000,000. KNCminer If the intention is to make a name in this business. They should not accept more than cost price on preorders. Why do we pay your benefits in advance? Couldn't agreed more  a small commitment fee would also be great. if someone don't pay in full before the miner is shipped out the commitment fee is forfeited and the Miner won't be send instead open to the one next in queue. |
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From the 'open day' thread, just posted:
Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June
Today at 04:21:33 PM
#310
Hi All
OK so we are ready for the open day I know you have all been waiting but we wanted to make sure everything was 100% ready and today I can confirm it is.
Because we have had so much interest we are actually going to do 4 sessions. Two on Wednesday 5th, one at 10:00am and one at 2:00pm. Then two more on Monday 10th at 10:00am and 2:00pm
They will all be the same in content and you can meet us and ask any questions you like. We will demo the Mars mining rig with all 8 blades hashing away to the public pools.
It will be held at ORSoC's Stockholm office
ORSoC
Regeringsgatan 111
111 39 Stockholm, Sweden
We will send this out in a newsletter on Monday to catch the people who wont have a chance to read this post.
Thanks
Sam
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Best regards
Kncminer
kncminer.com
ditto Sam about time for them to show off their Mars FPGA 8 Blade Miner .. enjoy |
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