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thanks for reply,
anyway, can I assume all the cards in the first post can be topped up with crypto?
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My question is which is the best NO KYC debit card for crypto?  Thanks do they even exist? |
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I am in the market (again) for a new crypto card.
Watching the initial post list, can some1 explain the difference between the "crypto supported" and "funding method" ?
I mean, can I assume I can fund any of those cards with a supported crypto transfer? If so, why only a very few have "crypto" in the funding methods?
thanks.
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After almost three years of doge withdrawals locked on this "exchange" I think we can say this is one of the longest ongoing scams in the crypto industry. Unfortunately I have many DOGE locked there because of greed as in the very day they locked the wallet there was a good arbitrage opportunity. Now the price is almost 1/10 of the real price and those doge are surely lost. It was clear since the first day they did not have in their wallets the total balance of customers' doge. I really wonder how could they still stay in business for so long, no one talks about this. And the final part of the scam is they apply a fee every month from your wallet if you don't do trades for 6 months.
Of course if you comment about this on their reddit they ban you. And, they disabled chat on telegram some time after this scam, and turned into a "channel" with only useless announcements.
this scam should have had more visibility.
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I came on this exchange after years and found a small btc balance. tried to withdraw, and they asked me kyc...
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Can confirm, they are still sketchy and I would not use them if at all possible. All users are advised to stay away from HitBTC, they still have not been able to move on from the scam allegations. Really? After 3 weeks no one is talking here of the ongoing DOGE scam on this site? Wallet locked since 16th of April... Probably insolvent with the cold wallet used to have >1B doge in 2018 now under 10M. And price 70% lower than on other exchanges. This exchange will exit scam very soon. I never heard anything about that. Are you saying all Dogecoin withdrawals have been suspended on HitBTC since 16th April 2021 or have they blocked Dogecoin withdrawals just from your account? they have locked all doge withdrawals since that day. On reddit the hitbtc sub is exploding (and yes on february they also locked my specific account but I must say it was unlocked after a relatively fast kyc) |
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Really? After 3 weeks no one is talking here of the ongoing DOGE scam on this site? Wallet locked since 16th of April... Probably insolvent with the cold wallet used to have >1B doge in 2018 now under 10M. And price 70% lower than on other exchanges. This exchange will exit scam very soon.
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I have followed the instructions and have received 50% of my BTC funds in USDT. Thanks Livecoin team.
This is so clearly fake. I had over $50K worth of currency on Livecoin, and they send this standard nonsensical form to verify my ID. Oddly enough they didn’t ask for a receiving address for my currency! I have received $0 and also filed a report to the police. theorically your request does not enter the program of sub-5k refunds started before 17 of march. It should be taken into consideration in 2 days |
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Let me ask another one : their verification confirm is just a common one or did they ask you something unusual?
Not common at all. I just receive (after ~2 weeks) their e-mail with their instructions and I repost it: Please provide the following:
1. First deposit details to your Livecoin account (TX ID, currency,
amount, date)
2. Passport or identity card (high resolution scan. Photo is not
accepted.) If your passport has a page with your address, this page must
be provided too.
3. Address verification, you must provide your address and proof of
this. If your passport has a page with your address, this is suitable.
Otherwise, please provide utility bill with your address and your name
in this bill, bank statement with your address and your name, or any
document from legal authorities with your address and name. Electronic
documents are not accepted, please provide paper scan only.
4. Selfie with opened passport or identity card near your face in one
hand and a sheet of paper with actual date and Livecoin text. Passport
or ID card must be clearly visible.
5. Device used for logging into Livecoin account. (Brand, model, OS
version, browser name and version.) Please specify the main device which
you use most often.
6. Origin of funds.
7. Video verification. The corresponding withdrawals record of the first
deposit you made to Livecoin. If you have made a withdrawal from
another Exchange, it must be clearly visible TX ID, date and Exchange
URL in the video. In this video (without editing/cutting video) you must
appear with face, handling passport or ID card in one hand and clearly
say: My name is (your name), today is (date), time is (actual time), I
personally apply to withdraw request at Livecoin and confirm that all
funds in my account belongs to me and has legal origin. File format -
AVI, size - not more than 200 Mb. You can archive with password this
file and upload to any free filehosting. Send a link to download and
password.
Please note:
You must send request only from email used for registration in Livecoin.
Don’t send new empty letters, please send letters with reply only, so we
could track the history.
No photos of documents are accepted, only high quality scans with at
least 1920 pixels (wide side), without any sort of editing. File format:
jpg, jpeg.
We cannot accept unclear, distorted selfie, photos of documents instead
of scans.
Btw, I can't remember or have an archive of my 1st deposit details (since it was back in 2016...). So unless they can use something else to verify me there, it looks impossible for me to get any % of my funds there...  Well, once you provide all the above described docs you will be half way done : following picture describe last requirement to allow access to half of your funds  ...the hardest part was wearing the flip flops with socks anyway  On a serious note : it is ridicolous that they ask for all these requirements when they are an unregulated and anonymous entity. lol, there are socks made on purpose. Anyway I am pretty sure there will be (bad) surprises for big account owners... |
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Though, that's still odd.
Odd is one word for it, I suppose. I'm still not certain everything here is as it seems, but I hope for the sake of the Livecoin account holders who had funds on the exchange when it apparently got hacked that what babell wrote is true. The posting here by newbies seems to be a reputation-protecting scheme, but I sure as hell would never use Livecoin again. you cannot anyway, they have closed forever (I suppose for insolvancy) |
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Well there is no final proof and will never be, but on telegram channels some "bots" who received payments have replied to some questions on how they completed the verification. But again I think for bigger accounts the story will be different. They will ask our mum in hostage before sending money.
If they are really repaying, then they can start repaying some of the bitcointalk.org members and I'm sure that I'm not the only one here. Until now, I didn't get even a bot reply for further instructions, so I can assume that this is another bs confirmation of getting funds back from them. I'm a real person. I received the payment. It took a while, but I received it. Most people are posting one liners probably because English isn't their native language and they are just copying and pasting to be compliant with the Livecoin instructions to receive the other half. Thanks for posting this : would you please be so kind to share here what are the instructions/requirement to receive first half of your money stuck there and the ones needed to receive tha other half? Asking because this thread has turned apparently into a mess and I am amongst the ones here suggesting other people not to fall for this ....but I could be wrong on this and would like to know more. This is what they sent. Sp you see now why there is so many new posts on this site. Hello We are starting payments for accounts whose users have confirmed their verification. This news is already available on the home page. We offer you the following payment process. You receive 50% of the funds that are available for refund on your account, after that, you publish a message about the received payment on all the following resources: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1151791https://www.bestchange.com/livecoin-exchanger.htmlhttps://twitter.com/livecoin_netAnd also in the most popular telegram channels: https://t.me/livecoinenghttps://t.me/livecoin_discusshttps://t.me/livecoin_paymentSend us links to your posts and we will transfer the remaining 50% to you. You should send AT LEAST 3 links to messages posted on different resources. If, after receiving the first tranche of payments, you DO NOT send links with your posts, or the posts are offensive / negative / false, the payments are considered complete. Or, you can provide a notarized statement of no claims to the platform in electronic form, which is drawn up by the notary, in 2 formats: pdf and sig. The choice is yours. By confirming such a payment scheme, you agree to the foregoing Thanks for sharing. Let me ask another one : their verification confirm is just a common one or did they ask you something unusual? Dunno if you mean that, the verification involves heavy kyc with scan of ID and even a video saying some given sentences. |
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Practically, it's a sort of ransom. Not only they have stolen funds pretending to have been hacked, but now instead of refunding with their mouth closed, they are saying they will not give to you the other 50% if you do not post.
All this effort for being trusted by the ones who have not sent IDs, is suspicious anyway.
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Well there is no final proof and will never be, but on telegram channels some "bots" who received payments have replied to some questions on how they completed the verification. But again I think for bigger accounts the story will be different. They will ask our mum in hostage before sending money.
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Well to be honest some of the first payments received another equal payment. there are some chances some of those users are not bots. Not everyone using crypto is signed to bitcointalk. But I definitely think if they will ever decide to start to pay bigger accounts, they will ask other difficult steps to complete. I already have an idea but I will not post to not inspire them  |
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As it is clear Livecoin monitor chats and this thread, I want to summarize here a list of unanswered questions, in a somewhat chronological order, to put in evidence how crazy this situation is.
-Why "Svetlana Geller" deleted telegram account one day before the hack?
-Why Bitcoin wallet was locked hours (some say 24 hrs) before the hack?
-What caused prices to grow during "hack" exactly?
-Why, if the server was totally hacked and out of control, it went offline for regular backup on the 23rd December night?
-Why no evidence of real police investigation has never been provided?
-Why a list of affected/unaffected asset has never been provided?
-Why Livecoin has never disclosed how much crypto has been stolen?
-Why Twitter account has never been moved from livecoin.net domain? So they still have access to that domain in reality?
-Why an extremely heavy KYC is required to access the "refund" program? Usually it's required when a third party (officials) takes over the refund process.
-Why KYC is required if we were not verified in the first place to use the exchange?
-Why the first transaction is required? Just a random question to lower the number of requests?
-Why any document ID with a watermark stating "only for livecoin verification" is not accepted? Even if it's not "photoshopped" but only with a small piece of paper for example.
-Why for verification has not been used a third party professional service?
-Why announcement of selling livecoin userbase appeared on the darknet?
-Why the money they are using to pay comes from an anonymous exchange (uniswap). Why looks like they have "laundered" money from their exchange?
-Why have they registered the new domain with an anonymous service "savvy investments" ?
-Why are they hiding like criminals to the fullest amount of anonymity is possible?
-Why they say "we will pay accounts under $5000" and then they are picking smallest balance accounts? Biggest payment $231
And last, the biggest of all questions: why, even if it's clear they will never pay the big accounts, are they doing all this?
these, and probably many others, are all the questions that Livecoin will never reply. And makes me sure no hacking has happened on december. The only thing I really don't understand is why they are making all this "Hollywood" after having stolen million of (our) dollars.
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There are many cases of users who have sent all the verification material and received no further replies.
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So are you telling me there are people around who have passed the intrusive difficult and potentially harmful verification process for ~50usd.
Honestly things are becoming more and more a joke day after day. An exchange "hacked" who tells to you "do a post on socials or you won't receive your half money".
This is not less than a criminal behaviour. Livecoin YOU DESERVE TO BE CAUGHT AND BE IN JAIL FOR MUCH MUCH TIME.
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livecoin you have to work better with your bots. No tx, no wallet, no proof. really?
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