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201  Economy / Speculation / Re: [b]GUESS LIST CLOSEST TO ATH @END OF THIS YEAR[/b] on: July 27, 2018, 05:59:14 PM
In a plausible bullish scenario, still the 15k$ zone is going to be major resistance, so I'll say until year's end not higher than 14,995$.
202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wtf Guys!?! on: July 23, 2018, 04:15:17 PM
Hah!  Right when I decided to cash out some BTC to fiat, the trading gods decided to pump it.  Lmao.  But still think another dump is just around the corner tho.  The trading gods are leveling us.

Countdown!  Dump in three...  two...  Grin

No trading gods, just risk-averse traders. They pumped on the 12h MACD crossing, and in the process also crossed the 24h MACD into positive (barely).
While 3d and 1w MACD are still negative, there's a good chance the weekly PSAR will flip to bullish soon.

Weekly PSAR flipped to bullish today. But it's into overbought now, so I expect a minor ABC correction, buy when it will exit from oversold in the 6h time frame.
203  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: July 23, 2018, 04:07:20 PM
CR plan outline proposal by MtGox Legal:
https://www.mtgoxlegal.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/CR-plan-outline-July-17.pdf
204  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: July 20, 2018, 02:09:41 PM
From the MtGox site: http://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180719_announcement.pdf

Some creditors have inquired about the timing for filing proofs of rehabilitation claim in
the Civil Rehabilitation Proceedings of MtGox Co., Ltd. We are currently using our best efforts to
build the system for filing proofs of rehabilitation claim. We plan to release such system this
August. Please kindly wait for a while. Thank you for your kind understanding.
205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wtf Guys!?! on: July 18, 2018, 05:34:48 PM
Hah!  Right when I decided to cash out some BTC to fiat, the trading gods decided to pump it.  Lmao.  But still think another dump is just around the corner tho.  The trading gods are leveling us.

Countdown!  Dump in three...  two...  Grin

No trading gods, just risk-averse traders. They pumped on the 12h MACD crossing, and in the process also crossed the 24h MACD into positive (barely).
While 3d and 1w MACD are still negative, there's a good chance the weekly PSAR will flip to bullish soon.
206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Hi Legendaries! Any predictions as to when will the bitcoin will rise frm 2day? on: June 30, 2018, 01:15:06 PM
Latest developments in the bid sum / ask sum on major exchanges support a bullish development, at least short term.
Also there is a possibility to form bullish double bottoms in 12h, 24h and 3D MACD, with respect to the April lows.
However, even if these bullish developments become real, the following rally could turn out to be a wave B.
207  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: June 30, 2018, 01:06:59 PM
From MtGox creditors,  https://mtgox-creditors.com/

[edited out]

I am not sure if I understand the BTC part.

I appreciate that they seem to be aiming to pay BTC back in BTC, but do they have enough BTC for this?

My understanding was that they had lost about 850k btc, and they had recovered a bit more than 200k btc.  Since currently they have only about 166k btc, then that means that they used about 34k btc to cash out and to pay various expenses..

Anyhow, if someone had 10 BTC in MTGOX, then would they end up receiving around 20% of their BTC (which is 166/850)?  That would mean that such hypothetical person would receive 2 BTC?  Or am I missing something? 

Since BTC has appreciated so greatly, I do agree that the most fair thing is to pay back in BTC, and also if they merely received 20% back, they would still be doing much better off than they were at the time of the loss, especially as we may recall there is some discrepencies regarding the value of the coins too at the time of the loss since during that early 2014 time frame up until February 2014, the BTC price dropped from $1,200-ish down to $190-ish..., yet even at the time of the GOX closure announcement, other exchanges were dropping but still decently maintaining BTC prices in around a $600 price arena. 

The 166k BTC allegedly still in MtGox possession are probably just 138k BTC, based on latest transfers, so the return ratio is going to be 17% max, plus forks.
This BTC distribution will be on top of the approved bankruptcy claims, paid in fiat, plus interest. Or at least that's the current plan of the CR lawyers teams.

During the last days of MtGox operation, price fell not to 190$, but to 100$, and twice.

208  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: June 29, 2018, 11:45:10 AM
From MtGox creditors,  https://mtgox-creditors.com/

Basic Policy for Preparing a Rehabilitation Plan (as of June 29, 2018)

We are currently considering the basic policy for the rehabilitation plan that  is as stated below.  The rehabilitation plan outline we have prepared is merely a proposal as of this point in time.  We would like to hear your opinions, as creditors, and revise this basic policy to prepare a rehabilitation plan which reflects creditor opinions to the fullest extent.

Your opinions are accepted by making comments on this article, sending e-mails to “mtgoxforcreditors at-mark gmail.com” (please change “at-mark” to @ when you send email), )  or sending letters.  We look forward to hearing your opinions.  Please provide your name and filing number so that we can identify you as a creditor.  You can also use the comment box on the website at the bottom of this page.

[Basic Policy for the Rehabilitation Plan]

1. The rehabilitation plan should be simple and the implementation thereof should have high certainty.
2. No distribution will be made to shareholders.
3. Distribution of assets to creditors will be made in kind, meaning for creditor bitcoin (BTC) claims, payment will be made in BTC and its derivatives (including but not limited BCH).
4. First payment to creditors will be made promptly after the approval and confirmation of the rehabilitation plan (according to the standard schedule, approximately 5 months after the commencement of rehabilitation proceedings).
5. The full payment to the monetary creditors will be made.
6. If there are any residual assets, or new assets are found, additional payment will be made.
7. No sponsor will be selected in principle, except where it is apparent that such selection is advantageous to creditors.

[Concept of the Basic Policy]

1. The rehabilitation plan should be simple and the implementation thereof should have high certainty.
In order to make the first payment as soon as possible, the rehabilitation plan should be simple.  If the rehabilitation plan is complicated, interest adjustment among interested parties will be necessary, and delay in the approval of the rehabilitation plan will be a concern.  Also, a complicated rehabilitation plan is difficult to understand, and is not friendly to many creditors.  We are of the opinion that it is important to make the rehabilitation plan as simple as possible, approve it at an early timing, and make payment to creditors as soon as possible.

In addition, in order to ensure payment to creditors, we are of the opinion that the rehabilitation plan should have content of implementation which is highly certain and which is realistic, considering rehabilitation proceedings practices in Japan.

2. No distribution will be made to shareholders.
Mt.Gox is not capable of returning all BTC deposited by creditors. Accordingly, we consider that all assets of Mt.Gox should be distributed to creditors and not to shareholders.

3. Payment for bitcoins (BTC) will be made in BTC and its derivatives (BCH, etc.).
We consider it appropriate to make payment to creditors who had been depositing BTC (BTC creditors) with Mt.Gox, in BTC and its derivatives (BCH, etc.), instead of cash.

This is because making payment to BTC creditors in BTC, etc. is the most simple and efficient way and transaction costs such as bank fees can be minimized (this is the very advantage of BTC). Also, if payment is to be made in cash, it will be necessary to exchange a large amount of BTC, etc. for fiat currency, which may result in decline of the price of BTC, etc.  Further, as the price of BTC, etc. fluctuates rapidly, it is difficult to determine when to sell BTC, etc.

4. First payment to creditors will be made promptly after the approval and confirmation of the rehabilitation plan.
Creditors have been waiting for payment to be made for as long as 4 years since Mt.Gox was bankrupted. Needless to say, payment to creditors should be made as soon as possible.

We are of the opinion that most of the assets, including approximately 166,000 BTC and 168,000 of BCH and other derivatives, if any, currently held by Mt.Gox, should be paid to creditors at the time of the first payment.

5.The full payment to the monetary creditors will be made.

In the Examiner’s report, the Examiner considers that the civil rehabilitation of MT.GOX shall commence, assuming that the following measures are taken before the decision to commence the rehabilitation proceedings (in other words, the discontinuation of the bankruptcy proceedings), that ensure the benefits of the bankruptcy creditors (especially those having monetary claims corresponding to bankruptcy claims) who filed proofs of claims in the bankruptcy proceedings of MT.GOX.

To convert from the bankruptcy proceedings to the civil rehabilitation proceedings, we believe that it is the best for us to allow the full payment to the monetary creditors in the civil rehabilitation proceedings.  The total amounts of the monetary claims are much smaller than the amounts of BTC claims, so the full payment to the monetary creditors does not have significant impact on the distribution to BTC creditors.  Therefore, the full payment to the monetary creditors can be implemented in the plan.

6. If there are any residual assets, or new assets are found, additional payment will be made.
At the time of the first payment, existence of some claims may still be disputed; therefore, it is expected that certain assets would have to be reserved at Mt.Gox until the amount of those disputed claims is fixed. In such case, we consider that those assets so reserved should be paid to creditors as additional payment.

Conversely, we think that payment should not be reserved until all of the assets/debts are fixed. Early payment should be realized by paying most of the assets that Mt.Gox has at hand to creditors as the first payment, as soon as possible, and then paying those assets/debts that are yet to be fixed, as additional payment.

Also, with regard to additional payment, we think that a scheme should be considered to realize additional payment at an early timing, under which additional payment should be made by fixing the amounts of the non-fixed assets/debts by transferring them to third parties, instead of waiting for all of such amounts to be fixed.

7. No sponsor will be selected in principle except where it is apparent that such selection is advantageous to creditors.
There may be an opinion that we should find a company that supports financially and commercially Mt.Gox (“sponsor”). However, Mt.Gox has already suspended its business, and it is not in a situation requiring a sponsor to supplement its creditworthiness or to continue its operations.  It is not necessarily a requirement under the rehabilitation law in Japan to appoint a sponsor, although it is common, and we are of the opinion that a rehabilitation plan can be approved by the courts and creditors without a sponsor in this case.  In addition, a certain period of time would be required to find a sponsor, and a proxy fight may occur if there is more than one sponsor candidate.  Such a situation may become an obstacle to the achievement of our purpose which we consider the most important, namely, early payment to creditors.  We do not intend to completely deny finding a sponsor; however, we are of the opinion that a sponsor should not be selected except where it is apparent that such selection is advantageous to creditors and will not be an obstacle to early payment.
209  Economy / Speculation / Re: BOTTOM? list? the real bottomcaller on: June 28, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
I guess we'll bottom in September, out of may ass I am guessing 3434$.
210  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: June 22, 2018, 04:19:23 PM
Does this still keep the option to receive Bitcoin back instead of fiat currency? i don't understand the email they send me.

Even if you had only BTC in your last balance (and approved claim), some of the compensation will be in fiat, besides the ~15% of BTC.
That's because Kobayashi sold about 10x more BTC than it was needed to compensate the fiat creditors.
211  Economy / Speculation / Re: MtGox Trustee Halts Bitcoin Sell-Offs on: June 22, 2018, 04:12:04 PM
"Kobayashi will not sell any further bitcoins" <--- there is no such statement, cointelegraph made things up. From the Announcement, Q&A:

Q16) Are there future plans to sell Bitcoins and Bitcoin cash?
A16) At present, nothing has been determined regarding the sale of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies split from Bitcoin (collectively, “Bitcoin, etc.”) in the future.
212  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: June 22, 2018, 10:51:30 AM
Commencement of Civil Rehabilitation Proceedings of Mt.Gox ( from https://mtgox-creditors.com/ )
https://www.mtgox.com/img/pdf/20180622_announcement_en.pdf

Today, on June 22, 2018, the Tokyo District Court ordered commencement of civil rehabilitation proceedings regarding Mt. Gox.   Accordingly, enormous assets, which were to be distributed to Mt. Gox’s shareholders under the bankruptcy proceedings, will be returned to creditors of Mt.Gox in civil rehabilitation proceedings.  This is the creditors’ victory.  Please see “https://www.mtgox.com/ ” for the trustee’s website.

However, this victory has not been realized yet.  The victory will come to creditors when Mt. Gox makes payment to creditors and  creditors actually receive such payment.

To that end, a rehabilitation plan to certainly and promptly realize creditors’ rights should be prepared, approved at the creditors’ meeting, and approved by the court.

A rehabilitation plan, which provides creditors rights in the proceedings,  will be primarily prepared by the trustee; therefore, creditors’ opinions will not always be reflected to the rehabilitation plan prepared by the trustee.

We would like to reflect creditors’ opinions to the rehabilitation plan by proposing our opinions or plan to the trustee.  Under Japanese civil rehabilitation act, a creditor is entitled to submit his or her plan if  the court permits.

Therefore, we are now working to prepare for the separate article entitled, “Outline of Our Rehabilitation Plan.”   We would like to hear creditors’ opinions on the outline.  Creditors will send us e-mails to “mtgoxforcreditors at-mark gmail.com” (please change “at-mark” to @ when you send email), or letters.
213  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 22, 2018, 10:48:35 AM
MtGox enters Civil Rehabilitation:
https://mtgox-creditors.com/
214  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 21, 2018, 01:20:22 PM
Roger Thomas Clark aka Variety Jones gets extradited into the USA. This could lead to more BTC seized by the feds and then auctioned.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/manhattan-us-attorney-announces-extradition-senior-adviser-operator-silk-road-website
215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dont Buy BTC Expensive, Wait. on: June 21, 2018, 01:15:41 PM
Dont Buy BTC Expensive, Wait. Whale want to sell you Expensive BTC  now, wait and buy BTC cheaper.

That's one way to see it.
But imagine whales are finished accumulating Bitcoin and they start topump the price up to 8k. Media hops in and is fueling FOMO buying. Price rises up to 10k and you, the smart one who said buying now at 6700 would be dumb, is in the end the one who looks a fool.
You don't know what is going to happen in terms of price!! You can guess. But guessing is not knowing!
And without giving any further explanation or analysis why buying right now would be bad, is just pretty lame.

How about this analysis, justifying that buying now is risky? On the weekly chart, MACD is deep into negative and price is hugging the lower BB.
It is risky to buy BTC now, even if it's oversold, since it could drop further, below 6k$, and eventually even as low as 3k$.
If there will be a recovery, marked by strong buys, weekly MACD will cross into positive and price will move away from the lower BB.
To buy BTC, I would wait for strong buys, absolutely needed for the recovery, or the minor correction that would follow that pump.
216  Local / Română (Romanian) / Re: Conturi inchise ING!!!!! on: June 21, 2018, 12:51:49 PM
o banca care nu prea pune intrebari e marfin bank.

Nope, si Marfin se teme de BNR. Dupa ce BRD-GSG a refuzat sa-mi transfere o suma mica (sub 1000 EUR) catre Kraken, am incercat alte banci, inclusiv Marfin, dar si la ei e negativ.
Nu-l mai pensioneaza nimeni pe Isarescu? Ca banii de pensionare (120+ mii euro) i-a luat...
217  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin Go Below 6000 USD? on: June 11, 2018, 05:17:43 PM
Weekly MACD went deeper into the negative, and 12h, 1d and 3d MACD also look quite bearish short term.
It's not yet impossible for the market to recover, but my favorite scenario is now an intermediary bottom around 4,500 $, and final bottom around 3,000 $.
218  Other / Politics & Society / Re: A world without Politicians on: May 29, 2018, 01:50:40 PM
Politicians are the lesser evil, in principle you can change them, or any elected official, by casting a vote.
A world without politicians would be 100% run by secret services (even more than today), and then good luck getting rid of them!  Grin
219  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: May 28, 2018, 05:31:39 PM
The market is oversold in several time frames, but also with negative MACD and hugging the lower BB, so very weak.
For a bullish scenario to become possible, we need to move away from the lower BB and cross MACD into positive, there's about a week left for a possible pump.
Even so, if strong buys won't happen, a recovery could turn out to be a fakeout (and crash about a month from now), like in this scenario on Tradingview:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/fmjAIUtp-Puff-Puff-Pass-Bitcoin-From-Tha-Clouds-To-Tha-Grass-BTC-D/

220  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: May 18, 2018, 02:25:16 PM
An update from MtGox Legal creditors:
https://www.mtgoxlegal.com/2018/05/18/update-18-mar-18/

We originally calculated that the sale of the 16k coins that moved should be enough to cover all assets. While it’s regrettable that the court/trustee considers they need cash to cover all the assets before moving forward, we concluded there’s nothing we can do about it. We looked at ways to challenge it legally but there was nothing we could practically do.

The further movement of 8k coins caused some alarm as some people thought it implied that the Trustee was on track to liquidate everything. Our lawyer’s view is that that is not the case, but that we should recalculate to allow for delay payment interest. The bankruptcy statute allows for 5 or 6% pa. So the trustee will need at least 20% more cash than we had originally considered. Again it’s disappointing that so many coins need to be sold, and we can only hope the trustee is getting a good price for them.

He has said that he is selling them in a way that will not affect the market. This suggests he’s selling them to a holder, such as an EFT type institution. We will find out in the course of time.

Our lawyer has met with the trustee and has had conversations with his team. He’s asked me not to divulge the details he shared with me, but the information he gave me left me confident that CR will be approved. The Trustee has to arrange Gox’s finances in such a way that meet the conditions set out by Ito, and the court can then approve CR. There seems to be willing from all parties involved, but it will take some more time, and probably the sale of more bitcoins.

As well as stockpiling the requisite amount of cash, the Trustee also has to establish a Trust vehicle to hold the assets that flow into CR. Once this has done, the conditions for approving CR should be met, and the court can then give the green light. The suggestion is that all creditors vote on being paid through the bankruptcy, (better for fiat claims) or allowing your claim to roll over into the Trust, which will then receive the assets left over after fiat claims have been settled, and distribute them under a CR plan (through an exchange or directly with the help of a third party bespoke crypto payment platform and bank transfers).
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