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3021  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 28, 2016, 10:52:14 PM
I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Well I think the easiest way would be just to go to moneroaddress.org, to unplug the internet connection and to be sure that computer does not connect by itself to any other wifi, to click the create wallet button, to print the page with mnemonic seed, public address, spend key, view key and such, delete browser history and data, close the browser and restart the whole computer.

I am quite paranoid, so I boot my machine from Ubuntu DVD which cannot contain any malware, hopefully, and do the rest like described above. I also use a very simple printer which has no wifi and has just a very little memory to store any data. So I use very cheap printer. Which is great. Smiley

Good method. Slightly better would be a custom DVD with just a trusted OS and the moneroaddress page. You would not need to connect to the internet at all.



So you can take any old blank DVD laying around and burn these programs on there? Or maybe a flash drive?  What if the computer has been connected to the internet for a long time?

Also how would you go about monitoring your wallet and seeing what your account balance is, spend it, etc.?

Flash drive is writable, so in theory malware could infiltrate and maliciously store your wallet there. Best is to create the wallet on hardware with no persistent storage at all, but that is difficult to achieve in practice since there is flash firmware in most hardware.

In practice creating a USB stick with OS and the wallet generator, then booting on an offline system is probably good enough. For extra paranoia, completely wipe the stick before plugging it back into an online system for reuse. A burned DVD would be slightly better.

For monitoring payments to the wallet you can use a view key wallet. The goal of this method overall would be for long-term storage, so it would be unspendable. To (eventually) spend you would generally restore the wallet to an online system (then no longer consider the wallet suitable for long term storage). We're working on methods to sign transactions offline, but its not really usable yet.
3022  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 28, 2016, 10:11:23 PM
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.


I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Download the .zip file from -> https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/ (moneroaddress.org is simply a port of that).

It contains a .html file (with a similiar UI as moneroaddress.org) that you can use offline to generate a wallet.

That, or you should be able to use your browser save function.

3023  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 28, 2016, 10:09:23 PM
I know I should know how too... but how do I use moneroaddress.org offline.  Is there someway to download it onto a USB and stick it onto a computer that's offline?

Well I think the easiest way would be just to go to moneroaddress.org, to unplug the internet connection and to be sure that computer does not connect by itself to any other wifi, to click the create wallet button, to print the page with mnemonic seed, public address, spend key, view key and such, delete browser history and data, close the browser and restart the whole computer.

I am quite paranoid, so I boot my machine from Ubuntu DVD which cannot contain any malware, hopefully, and do the rest like described above. I also use a very simple printer which has no wifi and has just a very little memory to store any data. So I use very cheap printer. Which is great. Smiley

Good method. Slightly better would be a custom DVD with just a trusted OS and the moneroaddress page. You would not need to connect to the internet at all.

3024  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 28, 2016, 10:06:35 PM
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?

I'm not sure how long the site has been around.

The 25 word format is the standard used by simplewallet and can also be used with MyMonero. The shorter format can only be used with MyMonero (or with simplewallet using a non-standard and apparently-slightly-flaky code mod).


I am using MyMonero.com with 13 word seed. So if MyMonero.com goes off-line I can reach my coins only by non-standard flaky version of simplewallet? If so, looks like I has to move my coins to a wallet created by moneroaddress.org.


I am quite sure if MyMonero goes offline and fluffypony disappears that someone will have the properly working code online within the day. However, a wallet created by moneroaddress.org is both compatible with simplewallet and MyMonero. Thus, if you feel safer with such a wallet, I suggest doing that.

This.

Alternately, if you create a wallet with simplewallet instead of creating it via MyMonero you get the same thing -- a 24-word wallet that can easily be used with both.

3025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin. Secure, private, untraceable since 2012 on: January 28, 2016, 10:02:48 PM
Isn't there some sort of fusion transaction feature in the Bytecoin GUI that is supposed to combine those sorts of small amounts together without a fee (which would then make them easier to spend)?

I'm not familiar with it since I've never used it but I did see that discussed in the release announcements.

3026  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [AEON] Aeon Speculation on: January 28, 2016, 09:59:44 PM
cryptodromeda nice job on the new logo/artwork. I think this has everything we want and was a great collaborative process with many iterations.

3027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 28, 2016, 12:15:59 PM
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.



Well that is i great site. How long has it been alive? There is more words in mnemonic seed than mymonero.com creates. Is this a new feature of monero or the site?

I'm not sure how long the site has been around.

The 25 word format is the standard used by simplewallet and can also be used with MyMonero. The shorter format can only be used with MyMonero (or with simplewallet using a non-standard and apparently-slightly-flaky code mod).



3028  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 28, 2016, 11:33:20 AM
There is not yet a site for monero paper wallet generator. But we can have such a site by slightly modifying mymonero.com.

Try this site: https://moneroaddress.org/

You can save that page and use offline.
3029  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 28, 2016, 05:13:18 AM

[Monerodo OS]

Has anyone verified if the code is safe to hold significant amount of Monero as a wallet?

By its nature it is not cold storage so I would recommend for long term storage of a significant amount, use a proper paper wallet instead.

To store some coins that are needed online, probably a reasonable approach being a stripped down OS with some effort taken to secure it.

3030  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 27, 2016, 11:04:50 PM
Hey guys, a bit of topic. But I was figuring out when Zcash will launch and how to get them, but couldn't find anything. Somebody maybe knows this? Thanks a lot!

There is no specific date yet, Zooko approximated a launch in 6 months from now. However, there is always a possibility that it gets postponed. Also, bear in mind that it's currently only available on testnet.

Thanks! Will there be an IPO?

If I recall correctly there will not be an ICO you will have to mine them or buy them. There is to be an 11% devtax on mined coins. Somewhat off topic here though.
3031  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: January 27, 2016, 01:38:11 PM
New Monero community project was announced earlier on the ANN thread, might be of interest here.

INTRODUCING THE MONERODO OS

http://nodebox.link/

What is it? Monerodo is a portmanteau (because I love them and love that word) of Monero and Node (well, esperanto for node).

Now you can take any old PC and turn it into a monero node, monero pool server, and nvidia miner. Instructions on the website.



Its not a GUI... but its not CLI either!!!!

Follow link for more info
3032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: January 27, 2016, 01:15:15 PM
Functionally the main difference between Monero and Zcash (esp. after RingCT is integrated) is that Zcash has a larger anonymity set at the level of individual transactions (all previous users) than Monero (some randomly chosen subset of previous users).

tldr, these are both serious, credible cryptographic techniques to deliver private transactions, with different advantages and disadvantages.

That insolent banned narcissist claimed the main difference is that the IP address and other markers of activity could be correlated to specific UTXO on the ring of potential payers and that this was not possible in Zcash. And he arrogantly claimed that this was some fundamental distinction. Thanks for the clarifying slogan.

He claims that you don't need to use Tor/I2P to hide your IP if you are using zerocash because the transactions are so opaque even revealing your IP does not matter. I'm sure there is a narrow way of looking at it that makes that the case, but overall, I don't agree and the Zcash developers don't agree (they are integrating Tor).

Monero works with a Tor proxy and will have I2P integrated. Dash (and Bitcoin) works with Tor.

3033  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: January 27, 2016, 12:45:33 PM
^ Yup.  This is the real deal indeed. 

I forgot to include this coin on my "next mega pump" list.  Wink

I have been waiting years for this coin! Although, their disclaimer for the alpha is kind of scary... I guess we should wait for the beta?

No seriously.  The tech their team is trying to develop will make Dash and Monero look second rate.

Yup, its proper anonymity.  As in direct anonymous payments, no mixers, no 3rd parties, nada.

There are no mixers or third parties in Monero. You construct the transactions entirely on your own (can even be done offline). Dash does use a masternode to coordinate coinjoin transactions, which is sort of like a mixer, although it can't steal your coins.

Functionally the main difference between Monero and Zcash (esp. after RingCT is integrated) is that Zcash has a larger anonymity set at the level of individual transactions (all previous users) than Monero (some randomly chosen subset of previous users). In practice the difference is likely somewhat narrower, but difficult to fully characterize.

The trade off for that difference in anonymity set is a wide gap in efficiency, a wide gap in cryptographic complexity and maturity, probably a gap in implementation maturity, the trusted setup, some functional limitations, and some stronger cryptographic assumptions (meaning more ways it can break, but not necessarily to a degree that is a huge concern).

Anyway given that Monero already uses cryptography rather than mixing, the option to swap out the cryptography with zerocash exists, just as regular ring signatures are now being swapped out with RingCT. There are no current plans to do so for the above reasons, but if zerocash techniques become more mature and trusted (and perhaps efficient), and it becomes clear that's what users want, it could be done at some point.

tldr, these are both serious, credible cryptographic techniques to deliver private transactions, with different advantages and disadvantages.
3034  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2016, 10:22:58 AM
Do people have insider information on Eth? --

It appears the entire black market / shady soviets are moving to altcoins till post-bitcoin classic armageddon is resolved with a single chain.

Moving to altcoins...that aren't named Monero!  Why XMR and ETH only alts in deep red today?  So crazy.  Is it International Pump A Shitcoin Day?   Undecided

Indeed it was. Many of the coins pumped were <$100K market cap, some under $10K. Many unmaintained coins, etc. Crazy action.
3035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2016, 09:26:24 AM
Eh, to me they are introducing further points of failure and security breach (centralization, 3rd parties, etc...) whilst over-complexifying Bitcoin's code.

What centralization do you see in segwit? It simply isn't there.
3036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 27, 2016, 07:35:58 AM
As for the segwit thing, I am still quite opposed to the excision of cryptographic signatures from the holy ledger (also implying the introduction of 3rd trusted parties)..

It does no such thing. Every node that receives a block will receive the segwit data as well, with the exception (eventually) of new pruned nodes that are syncing below a checkpoint and would ignore the signatures anyway. The segwit data is referenced by a hash committed to the block and can't be changed, making it part of the ledger for all practical purposes.

3037  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Devastation on: January 27, 2016, 07:11:54 AM
I read these posts which do not interest me as I own no Ethereum. They contain typical Anonymint confrontation but are overall pretty tame. I certainly saw nothing that would explain or justify widespread censorship and mass deletion of posts. I cannot help but wonder if there was a financial interest behind this. It is odd and represents a break from an otherwise laudable and hands off moderation policy.

Usually if one post is deleted (for example the pro-Ethereum posts may have been deleted for spamming), then replies that quote the deleted post will also be deleted. As you say, it is likely an example of collateral damage. I have no idea how that turned into a ban though.
3038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: January 27, 2016, 06:17:50 AM
A great feature of MONERODO is the built-in pool node. You can run your own pool and effectively solo mine with one or more GPU rigs, or open the pool node to your friends as a private pool. No chance of pool DDoS or pool ripping you off.

Great work GingerAle!
3039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Chinese pumping dead coins! on: January 26, 2016, 11:22:22 PM
Virtually every coin in in the top 100 on CMC is up big, and most of the 101-200 as well. Very strange market action.
3040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: No-nonsense CLAM staking pool on: January 26, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
Updated staking, one withdraw, and a tip.

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