No, religion doesn't explain everything about the world. For example. Show me where Christianity talks directly about that one weed growing between the cracks in the pavement outside your apartment. No explanation exists about that weed in the Christian religion. A broad generalization might exist, wherein the weed might or might not exist. But religion falls far short of explaining everything about the world. Why does it fall far short? Because that isn't what religion is there for. Science is there to explain everything about the world. But it does not. Science is not internally consistent. For example. There are 3 major Big Bang theories that are all different. There are 4 Black Hole theories that are distinctively different. There are scientists who understand that none of these have been proven to be fact. There are other scientists, some of which believe in each theory. There are still other scientists that believe the theories aren't true, but that something like them is true. Science is picky in the detail area. Because of this, when it doesn't find all the details, it is almost useless. Religion covers the broad generalities. Religion is better than science, because religion shows all sorts of things that science will never be able to show, because of the complexity of nature, the universe, and life. That's the reason why many scientists have turned science into a religion for themselves, by believing in parts of it that have not been proven to be fact. Just like other religion, scientists have turned science into religion, hopeful and believing that parts of science are true, when in reality these parts have not been proven to be true... just like religion.  Of course religion explains everything about the world. Your example: "about that one weed growing between the cracks in the pavement outside your apartment" -- the answer is of course "God". In fact, you've shown us that the answer for any question for which you don't know a well-defined answer has -- so far on this board -- always been "God". You believe in God at last!!! All my talk hasn't been for nothing, after all. Mine apparently has. |
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Atheists are not as bad as rapist. They do not violate your free will.
Their problem is that they don't realize how using their freedom to rape (for example) actually takes their freedom from them. They start to realize it when they are thrown into prison, where they lose a lot of their freedoms. God damn it you are such a stupid fucking asshole Atheists are the most moral of all people (evidenced by statistics)... 20% of Americans are Atheist, yet only 0.2% of prisoners are Atheists... do you need any more statistics than that? According to prison statistics, Christians are 10,000% (100x) more likely to commit a felony than an Atheist... People like to think Blacks commit more crimes than White people... but it's only like 3-to-1... Christian vs Atheist is 100-to-1... Basically, Christians are the ones committing the vast majority of crimes in America... statistically proven to be true Tsk, tsk. How you talk! Just be glad God doesn't take your freedom away for how you misuse it. How's the statistics for how many before-prison atheists find religion when inside? As far as Christians doing worse than atheists (if your statistics are even accurate), the devil already has the atheists. He doesn't need to work so hard on them. He is trying to get the Christians, so he focuses on tempting them. Since Christians are only people, they often fall for this greater tempting to do wrong. Doesn't mean they are less saved as Christians... or that atheists will be saved at all as long as they remain atheists. Turn while you can, and be saved for eternal life. As it is, you are throwing your freedom away. You use science and statistics when it suits your purpose and then ignore them or denigrate them when it doesn't, so it would be best if you do not weigh in on anything to do with science or with statistics. Here you go again, not providing links to the things that you say, nor explaining what you are talking about. As most of the people can see, you are simply full of deceit. But, you are a person, and until your end comes, I respect that. Why do I respect that? Because there is always the chance, no matter how slim, that you will turn to God and be saved. So you're just going to go with not trusting statistics or science, then? That your final answer? |
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Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.
I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books. It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see. Feel free to comment. Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion. What?! Science barely explains anything around the world. And when it explains anything in detail, it gets so complicated and convoluted that nobody can understand what it is saying. Religion explains everything about the world. And it describes nothing in any detail that anyone can understand, so important religious books can be interpreted different by different scholars -- leading to radically different explanations of how the world works. Science may not explain everything, but at least it is internally consistent. No, religion doesn't explain everything about the world. For example. Show me where Christianity talks directly about that one weed growing between the cracks in the pavement outside your apartment. No explanation exists about that weed in the Christian religion. A broad generalization might exist, wherein the weed might or might not exist. But religion falls far short of explaining everything about the world. Why does it fall far short? Because that isn't what religion is there for. Science is there to explain everything about the world. But it does not. Science is not internally consistent. For example. There are 3 major Big Bang theories that are all different. There are 4 Black Hole theories that are distinctively different. There are scientists who understand that none of these have been proven to be fact. There are other scientists, some of which believe in each theory. There are still other scientists that believe the theories aren't true, but that something like them is true. Science is picky in the detail area. Because of this, when it doesn't find all the details, it is almost useless. Religion covers the broad generalities. Religion is better than science, because religion shows all sorts of things that science will never be able to show, because of the complexity of nature, the universe, and life. That's the reason why many scientists have turned science into a religion for themselves, by believing in parts of it that have not been proven to be fact. Just like other religion, scientists have turned science into religion, hopeful and believing that parts of science are true, when in reality these parts have not been proven to be true... just like religion. Of course religion explains everything about the world. Your example: "about that one weed growing between the cracks in the pavement outside your apartment" -- the answer is of course "God". In fact, you've shown us that the answer for any question for which you don't know a well-defined answer has -- so far on this board -- always been "God". |
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Astrology is just another religion
Your mom is a religion... Is your avatar what you really look like? Or is it only part of your religion? I admire fine art... It's a painting I took a picture of while in Paris 20 years ago Now that you mention it, I might have seen pictures of it before. Why must everything revolve around religion and trolling? Are you retarded? Did you parents not love you enough?
Because everything DOES revolve around religion, and because all people are liars. Why do you ask if I am retarded? My IQ has a limit, just the same as everyone. What does my parents' love for me have to do with anything? Besides, their love and their ability to show it are two different things. Can anyone get into the hearts of his parents to check out the depth of their love for him? You ask some strange questions. The same strange questions as you've asked. I have a long list of posts you've made asking if other people are stupid or retarded. |
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Atheists are not as bad as rapist. They do not violate your free will.
Their problem is that they don't realize how using their freedom to rape (for example) actually takes their freedom from them. They start to realize it when they are thrown into prison, where they lose a lot of their freedoms. God damn it you are such a stupid fucking asshole Atheists are the most moral of all people (evidenced by statistics)... 20% of Americans are Atheist, yet only 0.2% of prisoners are Atheists... do you need any more statistics than that? According to prison statistics, Christians are 10,000% (100x) more likely to commit a felony than an Atheist... People like to think Blacks commit more crimes than White people... but it's only like 3-to-1... Christian vs Atheist is 100-to-1... Basically, Christians are the ones committing the vast majority of crimes in America... statistically proven to be true Tsk, tsk. How you talk! Just be glad God doesn't take your freedom away for how you misuse it. How's the statistics for how many before-prison atheists find religion when inside? As far as Christians doing worse than atheists (if your statistics are even accurate), the devil already has the atheists. He doesn't need to work so hard on them. He is trying to get the Christians, so he focuses on tempting them. Since Christians are only people, they often fall for this greater tempting to do wrong. Doesn't mean they are less saved as Christians... or that atheists will be saved at all as long as they remain atheists. Turn while you can, and be saved for eternal life. As it is, you are throwing your freedom away. You use science and statistics when it suits your purpose and then ignore them or denigrate them when it doesn't, so it would be best if you do not weigh in on anything to do with science or with statistics. |
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Science is not a religion - science is a religion killer .
Scientists always trying to dispel the all myths about God so i don't think that science is religion.
I dont think that is the point of science. Science with evidence and patience to process a research. Science gave us infos about ancent civilizations and even dinosaur which i think we didnt know from chruch books. It's not to contradict but religion focuses on miracles. Which is hard to see. Feel free to comment. Agreed, Science is an source which provides us the history of each and everything happening around the world. As mentioned science can be experimented but religious is truly on belief and miracles which can't be proved but only the left behind objects one has faith on religion. What?! Science barely explains anything around the world. And when it explains anything in detail, it gets so complicated and convoluted that nobody can understand what it is saying. Religion explains everything about the world. And it describes nothing in any detail that anyone can understand, so important religious books can be interpreted different by different scholars -- leading to radically different explanations of how the world works. Science may not explain everything, but at least it is internally consistent. |
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So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.
But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.
WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?
Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.
Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.
i dont think atheists (im atheist) hate religion, i think they (like me) hate what religion do to people, like wars, dived families, abandon and things like that Simply another point that shows that atheism is a religion. How? Because atheists do all these evil things as well. Poor logic. If some A = C and some B = C and some C = D, it does not follow that any B = D. Take A as god believers, B as atheists, C as evil deeds and D as religion. Bro, you can't use login in an argument against an overly religious person or a muslim. You need top go lower, use their language. Let me try now.... Uga,uga oooga booga bogaa ugh I think BADecker is a smart person. He or she just has an intellectual blind spot when it comes to Christianity. |
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I have no reason to doubt your honesty but a brand new reward method that no one has thought of before is a big claim, and I think that -- by the time you're able to post details -- there will be a lot of heated debate over what it could possibly be.
Maybe you could answer a pretty non specific sort of a question: Is it actually a new reward method or instead a way of reducing variance for just the pool (which you're then passing on to the miners)?
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So I see 2 threads of why islam hates people or why people hate Islam. I dont see the point of such a mundane debate based on religion any debate for or against religion would be stupid. Either you are stupid to believe what a prophet / god / divine entity said or you are stupid enough to believe you can change the minds of the bleak minded people who follow such a prophet / god / divine entity.
But since its fun let me initiate my own brand of 'why do' topic.
WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?
Seriously what has to happen in a person's life for them to seriously give up hope on the one true everlasting brand (of religion) which their ancestors have followed for generations.
Everyone has their own story even I have mine, so lets hear some of it.
i dont think atheists (im atheist) hate religion, i think they (like me) hate what religion do to people, like wars, dived families, abandon and things like that Simply another point that shows that atheism is a religion. How? Because atheists do all these evil things as well. Poor logic. If some A = C and some B = C and some C = D, it does not follow that any B = D. Take A as god believers, B as atheists, C as evil deeds doers and D as religion religious. |
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Religion is OK as long as people don't try to convince other people. Live and let live, or how is it said exactly...  Otherwise it's the root of evil. This is part of the reason why we see atheism suggested in the schools... if in no other way, than by disallowing other religion. Atheism, the religion root of all evil. BADecker, you claim that disallowing religion in schools is evil, and yet you by your own personal defintion, atheism is a religion. Are you sure you want atheism taught in schools? Here is your deception. You constantly deceive by misquoting. You constantly attempt to claim that others say things that they didn't. In this case you dropped the little word "other." Compare my statement with what you said that I said. I emphasized both above for all to see. Everyone makes a mistake now and again. But you intentionally incorporate mistakes into your life. EDIT: I really don't blame you. deception is all you have left, except... you could turn and accept the truth that atheism is a lie. So you're ok with atheism being taught in schools as a religion, as long as other religions are taught as well? (this is my question for you, which you misinterpreted, so I've attempted to make it as clear as possible this time) Since you are essentially agreeing to the fact that you use deception, why in the world would anyone even want to talk to you? much less look at anything you have to say. No, I just couldn't be bothered to "bite back" (I knew I'd find a use for that phrase!). A recap: Religion is OK as long as people don't try to convince other people. Live and let live, or how is it said exactly... Otherwise it's the root of evil. This is part of the reason why we see atheism suggested in the schools... if in no other way, than by disallowing other religion. Atheism, the religion root of all evil. These are the two logical choices you have here: 1. If you think atheism is a religion, then by your standards you're ok with evil being taught in schools. 2. If you think atheism should not be taught at school, then atheism is *not* a religion, and I'm going to bookmark this page so I can link to it every time you try to explain why "atheism is a religion". Personally, I think the right religion, Christianity, should be taught in schools. I think none of the wrong religions, including atheism, should be taught in schools. For you then only Christianity should be taught at school. In this case Christianity -- in disallowing all other religions -- is acting just as you think atheism does. That makes your version of Christianity as exclusive -- and by your logic "evil" -- as atheism. |
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Religion is OK as long as people don't try to convince other people. Live and let live, or how is it said exactly... Otherwise it's the root of evil. This is part of the reason why we see atheism suggested in the schools... if in no other way, than by disallowing other religion. Atheism, the religion root of all evil. BADecker, you claim that disallowing religion in schools is evil, and yet you by your own personal defintion, atheism is a religion. Are you sure you want atheism taught in schools? Here is your deception. You constantly deceive by misquoting. You constantly attempt to claim that others say things that they didn't. In this case you dropped the little word "other." Compare my statement with what you said that I said. I emphasized both above for all to see. Everyone makes a mistake now and again. But you intentionally incorporate mistakes into your life. EDIT: I really don't blame you. deception is all you have left, except... you could turn and accept the truth that atheism is a lie. So you're ok with atheism being taught in schools as a religion, as long as other religions are taught as well? (this is my question for you, which you misinterpreted, so I've attempted to make it as clear as possible this time) Since you are essentially agreeing to the fact that you use deception, why in the world would anyone even want to talk to you? much less look at anything you have to say. No, I just couldn't be bothered to "bite back" (I knew I'd find a use for that phrase!). A recap: Religion is OK as long as people don't try to convince other people. Live and let live, or how is it said exactly... Otherwise it's the root of evil. This is part of the reason why we see atheism suggested in the schools... if in no other way, than by disallowing other religion. Atheism, the religion root of all evil. These are the two logical choices you have here: 1. If you think atheism is a religion, then by your standards you're ok with evil being taught in schools. 2. If you think atheism should not be taught at school, then atheism is *not* a religion, and I'm going to bookmark this page so I can link to it every time you try to explain why "atheism is a religion". |
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Besides, Big Bang has a tad of corny math to it, but neglects the possibilities of thousands of other math calc that could negate it. Big Bang is one of the most supernatural things that science has come up with yet. This seems like you've taken someone else's opinion and made it your own. If not, can you explain this statement for us (who aren't familiar with Big Bang physics)? Perhaps when you were a child you went to school. If not as a child, then somewhere along the line you learned how to speak, how to write, how to do the many things that you learned how to do. When you learned the basics of atheism, you might have said something like, "That's the way I believe. I never heard anyone say it like that before. It is true. From now on I will follow it until someone shows me something better." Nobody, not even you, have all the concepts that you will ever have, already built clearly into yourself. Somewhere along the line you will find new things out, or you will find some of the things you think said clearly enough that they form a better basis for your thinking. The fact that Big Bang is just one of possibly thousands or more of ways that the universe might have come into being, is something that has always been known, though seldom said. The fact that Big Bang theory doesn't dispel multitudes of other possibilities, has always been truth. The fact that it hasn't been said often doesn't make it untruth. The fact of God-creation is way more logical than Big Bang creation. One major reason is that Big Bang doesn't have any method for suggesting the fact of the intelligence that now exists, but God-creation does. OK, so what exactly were you referring to when you wrote: Big Bang has a tad of corny math to it, but neglects the possibilities of thousands of other math calc that could negate it.
Which branch of maths in particular is "corny" and which other branches of math "negate" the "corny" math? |
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Religion is OK as long as people don't try to convince other people. Live and let live, or how is it said exactly... Otherwise it's the root of evil. This is part of the reason why we see atheism suggested in the schools... if in no other way, than by disallowing other religion. Atheism, the religion root of all evil. BADecker, you claim that disallowing religion in schools is evil, and yet you by your own personal defintion, atheism is a religion. Are you sure you want atheism taught in schools? Here is your deception. You constantly deceive by misquoting. You constantly attempt to claim that others say things that they didn't. In this case you dropped the little word "other." Compare my statement with what you said that I said. I emphasized both above for all to see. Everyone makes a mistake now and again. But you intentionally incorporate mistakes into your life. EDIT: I really don't blame you. deception is all you have left, except... you could turn and accept the truth that atheism is a lie. So you're ok with atheism being taught in schools as a religion, as long as other religions are taught as well? (this is my question for you, which you misinterpreted, so I've attempted to make it as clear as possible this time) |
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Besides, Big Bang has a tad of corny math to it, but neglects the possibilities of thousands of other math calc that could negate it. Big Bang is one of the most supernatural things that science has come up with yet. This seems like you've taken someone else's opinion and made it your own. If not, can you explain this statement for us (who aren't familiar with Big Bang physics)? |
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Religion is OK as long as people don't try to convince other people. Live and let live, or how is it said exactly... Otherwise it's the root of evil. This is part of the reason why we see atheism suggested in the schools... if in no other way, than by disallowing other religion. Atheism, the religion root of all evil. BADecker, you claim that disallowing religion in schools is evil, and yet you by your own personal defintion, atheism is a religion. Are you sure you want atheism taught in schools? |
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<snip>The entomology of words (studying their root) is a fascinating subject that can often reveal just as much about our past if not more than archaeology.</snip>
You mean etymology, right? "Entomology" is the study of insects. |
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A religion must include a god and a place of worship. Science has neither. If you believe in science you are an athiest. Scientology isnt a religion either, it is more of a cult
But the definition of "religion" doesn't say that a god is a requirement of religion. However, the activities and thinking of mankind in his presumptuousness, suggests that mankind makes himself out as though he were a god. So, religion always has a god, even though the definition doesn't require it. definition doesn't. But as pointed out many times before, the standard dictionaries (those that existed long before "dictionary.com") have definitions of religion that include terms such as "supernatural belief" and "god or gods" in their definitions. If you want to go by the ancient dictionaries, move into the past. The present dictionaries are the language of today. There are many words that come into being because someone made them up, and people started to catch on to them, until they were recognized as words. Such words are the language of the day. This is Dictionary.com... the language of the day. Use it, or build a time machine and go back into the past. Of course, if you did that, you'd be strung up for proclaiming your atheism. OK then, let's see what this arbiter of good sense (that apparently promoting Astrology on it's main page today) has to say about "religion": religion
[ri-lij-uh n]
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noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:
the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices:
a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.:
to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.
something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:
to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7.
religions, Archaic. religious rites:
painted priests performing religions deep into the night.
Idioms
9.
get religion, Informal.
to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices.
to resolve to mend one's errant ways:
The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.
British Dictionary definitions for religion Expand
religion
/rɪˈlɪdʒən/
noun
1.
belief in, worship of, or obedience to a supernatural power or powers considered to be divine or to have control of human destiny
2.
any formal or institutionalized expression of such belief: the Christian religion
3.
the attitude and feeling of one who believes in a transcendent controlling power or powers
4.
(mainly RC Church) the way of life determined by the vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience entered upon by monks, friars, and nuns: to enter religion
5.
something of overwhelming importance to a person: football is his religion
6.
(archaic)
the practice of sacred ritual observances
sacred rites and ceremonies
Word Origin
C12: via Old French from Latin religiō fear of the supernatural, piety, probably from religāre to tie up, from re- + ligāre to bind
Well I never! A bunch of definitions referring to the supernatural! Who would have thought it? Even BADecker's own stacked deck refers to the supernatural. My definition of a religion fits in with *all* the Dictionary.com definitions. Your definition of a religion does not. |
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A religion must include a god and a place of worship. Science has neither. If you believe in science you are an athiest. Scientology isnt a religion either, it is more of a cult
But the definition of "religion" doesn't say that a god is a requirement of religion. However, the activities and thinking of mankind in his presumptuousness, suggests that mankind makes himself out as though he were a god. So, religion always has a god, even though the definition doesn't require it. definition doesn't. But as pointed out many times before, the standard dictionaries (those that existed long before "dictionary.com") have definitions of religion that include terms such as "supernatural belief" and "god or gods" in their definitions. |
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