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961  Other / Archival / Re: Mining pools list on: February 18, 2015, 09:53:43 AM
Adding listing for coinstack.io, this pool has existed for a while but has recently undergone a major overhaul.

Pool:                       Coinstack
Website:                  https://www.coinstack.io
Proxy:                     No
Generation address:  1NqULYZgmz18qTAh1k7rsFNHe7Bz5cC3X6
Coinbase signature:   Coinstack.io
Payout method:        PPLNS
Fee:                        2%
Pay Tx Reward:        No
Vardiff:                   Automatic - 12 SPM
Local Work:             stratum
Pay Orphans:           No
Min Withdrawal:       0.02
Merge Mining:          No

i mean like this to look like this

Yes, they have already been added. They posted in the thread, I didn't have any follow up questions for them, so I put them in the list.
962  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ongoing Civil War in America on: February 18, 2015, 05:09:59 AM
How do we know this to be true for sure. You always can't beleive what you read and at the end of the day these so-called illuminati bloodlines are human beings like you and I. correct?

No, they are not like "you and I".

Normal "non-conspiracy" version
There are at least 12, or more, elite families whose power and wealth can be traced back many generations.
Being born rich gives them huge advantages, but (don't worry) you have a slight chance of becoming one of the rare individuals who earns tremendous wealth in a single lifetime.

Satanic, "massively evil" version
If most modern humans are slaves to a satanic "massively evil" elite, then... Oh wait!
My meds just kicked in.  Cheesy
You are much better off believing that most people are basically good, including those who are born wealthy, correct?


You have betrayed us! Prepare to die.
963  Other / Archival / Re: Mining pools list on: February 17, 2015, 10:43:51 AM
Op like this new post sheme

could you update the list with new mining pools


I enter new pools within one week of a valid request. If there's a pool you use that is not here, get them to post a request in the usual format.
964  Other / Archival / Re: Mining pools list on: February 17, 2015, 10:42:46 AM
Adding listing for coinstack.io, this pool has existed for a while but has recently undergone a major overhaul.

Pool:                       Coinstack
Website:                  https://www.coinstack.io
Proxy:                     No
Generation address:  1NqULYZgmz18qTAh1k7rsFNHe7Bz5cC3X6
Coinbase signature:   Coinstack.io
Payout method:        PPLNS
Fee:                        2%
Pay Tx Reward:        No
Vardiff:                   Automatic - 12 SPM
Local Work:             stratum
Pay Orphans:           No
Min Withdrawal:       0.02
Merge Mining:          No

Done. Please check the entry for errors.
965  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 17, 2015, 12:15:12 AM
The Bible is a record; it has not changed much if any over thousands of years; it could not have come together the way it did (probability)

This is false. There are many different bibles available, each with slightly different wording and events.
966  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ongoing Civil War in America on: February 15, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
The Devil calls for another one of the high ranking 13 inbred Terrorist European Bloodlines to join him in Hell.

Oh, this whole thread is about a religious thing! I hadn't realised, but I totally get it now.
967  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: February 15, 2015, 01:41:32 AM
it is a haiku

No, I don't think that's quite true.
968  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: February 15, 2015, 01:40:32 AM
Shouldn't it at least have some sort of rhythm then?

White dudes are excluded from rhythm requirements.

Ha! Funny, if a little racist.
969  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: February 15, 2015, 01:02:50 AM
Shouldn't it at least have some sort of rhythm then?
970  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: February 15, 2015, 12:13:59 AM

AM isn't dead! It is merely resting.


I've actually witnessed a few AM's in other industries.
I've been attached to them in the same ways I am attached to AM.
Minority shareholder.
Cheerleader.
(Fatal) Optimistic.

I love my fucking underdogs.

As a MS, you're helpless.
You can't help.  Your voice doesn't count.
You can watch everything unfold.
It doesn't make sense to get further involved, enough to help.

In half the cases I've been involved, it turns out alright.
They fight through.  They get it figured out.
I just talked to one of those last week.
In 2014, they had the highest net year in their history, and became marketshare leader.

In the other half of cases, crash and burn.
They usually stop returning phone calls.
They stop responding to emails.
I mean, really, when there's nothing good to say, who wants to have their nose rubbed in it.

There's usually a very recognizable point where that one guy gives up.  He says fuck it.
He stops trying to be nice.  He stops trying to win.  He submits.
He just plays the rest of his cards out, and he disappears.
There's usually no soliloquy - just a fade-out.

The sad thing is - the marketplace is so forgiving.
You come with a bit of humility, and we'll forgive you.
But, when you don't ask for it.
And you decide you don't need it.
The market will shed you like a dead raccoon.

I don't know though.
These people in China are confusing.
Their cultural stuff is so different, I can't get a read on them.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure this could go either way.
Still as speculative as when I first got involved.
This industry will never get any of my real investment money when it's still in this phase.

Here's to AM not saying fuck it.
Here's to AM getting their shit straightened out.
Here's to AM become marketshare leader.
Here's to AM winning.

Shouldn't poems rhyme?
971  Other / Archival / Re: Mining pools list on: February 14, 2015, 03:00:49 AM
Brand new pool->>>>  Shocked
Pool:                         Bitgencorp Star Pool
Website:                    http://pool.bitgencorp.com
Proxy:                        N/A
Generation address:   Your Address
Coinbase signature:    N/A
Payout method:           PPLNS
Fee:                          0% (ZERO)
Pay Tx Reward:          YES
Vardiff:                     User defined
Local Work:               options: Stratum / API
Pay Orphans:              YES
Min Withdrawal:         .01
Merge Mining:             NO BTC Only

How will you identify the blocks you make?
972  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [3500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: February 13, 2015, 04:50:52 AM
I'm wondering that as well, see the "GetBlockTemplate
Latency" graph (2nd last graph at the bottom) of these
two nodes:
http://doge.jir.dk:22550/static/graphs.html?Week
http://doge.st/stats/graphs?Week
And these are not the only nodes experiencing this, it
doesn't seem to have resulted in a big spike in dead
hash though, wondering if it's just a fluke or something
is up with p2pool or dogecoind settings.

Arnab, this is p2pool for Bitcoin mining pools. You might want to repeat your question somewhere more alt-coiny.

973  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: *** GHash.IO mining pool official page *** on: February 13, 2015, 02:38:40 AM
Yes, and to note it was about 15% of the network through December, and while there can be a + or - 16% or so, the variance shouldn't be that large as statistically it should be a + and - effect over multiple weeks.  What we found when looking at numbers was it was consistently negative 10-20% week after week.

In order to accomplish this you're talking about a 1/1000 probability that the luck would be constantly negative over a larger timespan..  There should have at least been one or two weeks over the last couple of months that came out with 'positive luck' this was not the case.  This used to be the case about 3-4 months ago with some daily payouts exceeding expected.  My guess is Ghash is going under and they're doing everything they can to stay afloat.


Sorry, I have no idea what you mean. What does "What we found when looking at numbers was it was consistently negative 10-20% week after week." mean in terms of hashrate?

In the second paragraph you're discussing luck - I was only commenting on hashrate.

in response to: More like 9% of the network, which means a weekly variance in blocks of ~ +/- 20%.

my point was the variance shouldn't be + or - 20% of a variance.  The large the pool is, the more blocks it finds, the less that luck plays into a factor.  Its called statistic probability.  The more quarters you flip, the closer to a 50/50 number you will get to.  For example, flip 10 quarters you might get 7 heads 3 tails, but over 100 units, it gets closer to 50%, over 1 million units, you are + or - a fraction of a percent.

The same logic applies to large pools, more hashrate / larger % of the bitcoin network = more stable luck.  My point was, ghash in December was a large percentage of the network, and should have not been so vulnerable to large luck spikes as you suggest, + or minus 20%.  Its less of a statistical anomaly.  


The variance *is* +/- 20%. You can calculate it for yourself if you like:

Code:
95% conf. interval for Poisson mean = ( qchisq(0.025, 2*x)/2, qchisq(0.975, 2*(x+1))/2 )

That is, obtain the chi squared quantiles at 2.5 and 97.5% for your observed number of blocks, and divide by 2. For example, if the network solves 1008 block and GHash.IO solves (as you suggest) 15% of them, then variance would be +/- 17%. You can check this for yourself.



Organorcorti,

I don't think graymatter knows who he's talking statistics with. Maybe point him to your website.

http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/

Although I am surprised its as much as 20% I don't doubt your numbers in the least.



Thing is, this is always hard to grasp at first. As you know it takes a looooong time until your intuitions about mining are close to reality.


Edit:

Here's a plot of the 95% CI lower and upper bounds as a percentage of and a function of blocks solved per time period:

974  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: *** GHash.IO mining pool official page *** on: February 13, 2015, 01:15:48 AM
Yes, and to note it was about 15% of the network through December, and while there can be a + or - 16% or so, the variance shouldn't be that large as statistically it should be a + and - effect over multiple weeks.  What we found when looking at numbers was it was consistently negative 10-20% week after week.

In order to accomplish this you're talking about a 1/1000 probability that the luck would be constantly negative over a larger timespan..  There should have at least been one or two weeks over the last couple of months that came out with 'positive luck' this was not the case.  This used to be the case about 3-4 months ago with some daily payouts exceeding expected.  My guess is Ghash is going under and they're doing everything they can to stay afloat.


Sorry, I have no idea what you mean. What does "What we found when looking at numbers was it was consistently negative 10-20% week after week." mean in terms of hashrate?

In the second paragraph you're discussing luck - I was only commenting on hashrate.

in response to: More like 9% of the network, which means a weekly variance in blocks of ~ +/- 20%.

my point was the variance shouldn't be + or - 20% of a variance.  The large the pool is, the more blocks it finds, the less that luck plays into a factor.  Its called statistic probability.  The more quarters you flip, the closer to a 50/50 number you will get to.  For example, flip 10 quarters you might get 7 heads 3 tails, but over 100 units, it gets closer to 50%, over 1 million units, you are + or - a fraction of a percent.

The same logic applies to large pools, more hashrate / larger % of the bitcoin network = more stable luck.  My point was, ghash in December was a large percentage of the network, and should have not been so vulnerable to large luck spikes as you suggest, + or minus 20%.  Its less of a statistical anomaly.  


The variance *is* +/- 20%. You can calculate it for yourself if you like:

Code:
95% conf. interval for Poisson mean = ( qchisq(0.025, 2*x)/2, qchisq(0.975, 2*(x+1))/2 )

That is, obtain the chi squared quantiles at 2.5 and 97.5% for your observed number of blocks, and divide by 2. For example, if the network solves 1008 block and GHash.IO solves (as you suggest) 15% of them, then variance would be +/- 17%. You can check this for yourself.


Edit: Use wolfram alpha if you like. the following links calculate the lower and upper bounds for 150 blocks:

Lower:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=InverseCDF%5BChiSquareDistribution%5B300%5D%2C+0.025%5D%2F2%2F150
Upper:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=InverseCDF%5BChiSquareDistribution%5B302%5D%2C+0.975%5D%2F2%2F150
975  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: *** GHash.IO mining pool official page *** on: February 13, 2015, 12:21:17 AM
Yes, and to note it was about 15% of the network through December, and while there can be a + or - 16% or so, the variance shouldn't be that large as statistically it should be a + and - effect over multiple weeks.  What we found when looking at numbers was it was consistently negative 10-20% week after week.

In order to accomplish this you're talking about a 1/1000 probability that the luck would be constantly negative over a larger timespan..  There should have at least been one or two weeks over the last couple of months that came out with 'positive luck' this was not the case.  This used to be the case about 3-4 months ago with some daily payouts exceeding expected.  My guess is Ghash is going under and they're doing everything they can to stay afloat.


Sorry, I have no idea what you mean. What does "What we found when looking at numbers was it was consistently negative 10-20% week after week." mean in terms of hashrate?

In the second paragraph you're discussing luck - I was only commenting on hashrate.
976  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 12, 2015, 01:37:08 PM
IF there is no center cause space and time are infinite.  dark matter is never ending.  Meaning there is life just like us or quite different then us.  God created seperate beings the proof is the different species on our planet.

So if there is a center, this would prove god does not exist?
977  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: February 12, 2015, 12:48:32 AM
did you google, its not only in the gospel herald.  I can show you other sources

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html

This paper doesn't prove the Big Bang didn't happen, it just offers an internally consistent alternative - which is more than can be said for the various bibles out there.
978  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ongoing Civil War in America on: February 10, 2015, 10:40:21 PM
George Soros using his puppet Obama to Promotes ‘Partnership’ With Soros-Funded Group



http://www.infowars.com/at-grammys-obama-promotes-partnership-with-soros-funded-group/

Yet another Actor_Tom_Truong post that I simply do not understand. Soros really used a puppet of Obama to discuss some sort of whatever?
979  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [9000 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff on: February 10, 2015, 09:26:05 AM
STOP POOLJUMPING...!  Angry

Take one pool and STAY THERE!
You're mining on the last remaining pool whose reward system is hoppable. What do you expect?

Not sure it is anymore. It seems to be an exponential score PPLNS hybrid since the change in the score method. Anyway, the old way of hopping certainly wont work anymore.
980  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [10000Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB on: February 10, 2015, 04:14:28 AM
In both cases of Eligius and BTC Guild, the % doesn't relate directly to the payout anyway (me also of course)

In Eligius the backpay PPS thingy means your max pay is 100% PPS no matter how good the luck is.
There is a relationship between pool luck the time it takes to receive your pay though, so pool luck still affects miners.

In BTC Guild the shifts mean that you'd need to look across all shifts in the payout to make any use of the luck % (being inverted from share %) and invert it then avg it then invert it again ... to get a number that is related ... so yeah almost no one does that in their head Smiley

There is another way to determine luck for BTC Guild that would still allow you to derive a CDF, and that is by the Poisson probability of a certain number of blocks occurring after a certain number of d1 shares in a shift, with the mean being difficulty / (d1 shares per shift).

Share% seems a lot clearer IMO and way less prone to misunderstanding -

I agree, but then I'm biased since that's the way I do it Smiley

- and yes as you know I also have CDF also thanks to your help on that Smiley

The cdf you have is only for each block though - if you want a cdf for the past 100 blocks or 1000 blocks, let me know and I'll look up the GSL function that will do that for you.
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