Responding to a response?
That is not semantically correct.
Thank You.
Best regards.
Oh my god! How many pages do you intend to avoid answering a simple question? Let me simplify for you: 1. You, BitNow, think that Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
2. BADecker believes that an idol is: 1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
You can't both be correct. Either a religion can or can not worship an idol. You think it can't. BADecker thinks a religion can worship an idol. Which of you is correct and why? |
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BitNow, how do you respond?
Respond to what? The rest of the post you didn't quote. Here it is again: BitNow, you say: Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.
Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct. <snip> In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol: idol
[ahyd-l]
noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.
(my bold, for emphasis) BitNow, how do you respond? So, BitNow, how do you respond? |
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Tangible proof our planet was created:  That's not tangible, that's a photograph. |
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The bounty has been raised to 2 BTC!
CloudFlare will not help as the IP has already been saved and can be defined by the stratum URL (no masking is allowed)
Vultr Holdings will soon remove the account and server due to continued attacks.
Please note... This is not my account. It is yet another newbie created to demand I pay a ransom. Hey asshat - the pool has a total liquidity of about 0.05 BTC from the fees and donations I've received... I truly don't understand your motivation here. I mean if I had like 15PH and was making some coin then I get why you'd be interested in extorting me. But seriously? We've solved 2 whole blocks. Edit: I'm also kind of upset with myself for not registering that username here... Hey cunt, Either pay the 2 BTC or deal with consistent attacks til no one comes back. Easy as that, there is no in between dick twat. Wow. The professionalism! I'll always pay people who use the word "cunt" when asking for money, it just makes me feel better about being raped by a 14 year old script kiddy who has English as a second language. |
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Specifically, the hypothesis is that dishonest miners are contributing hashes but stealing blocks from various pools.
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Miners can't steal blocks from pools, and this problem was addressed by the very first pooled mining groups. If you mine at a pool, then you accept the pool's generation address and the block reward can only be paid to that address (or addresses). If a miner attempts to include a different address then the work will not be accepted by the pool. |
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<snip>  Sorry, I should be more clear. BitNow, you say: Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.
Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
However I show that there are opinions - for example from BADecker - that suggest this is not correct. <snip> In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol: idol
[ahyd-l]
noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.
(my bold, for emphasis) BitNow, how do you respond? |
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OK understood. I do not think there is any more info & am not sure there are many of the larger pools other than Kano that put up that information? Rich Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do. Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool Medium sized pools: Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about. Our data is super easy to be parsed. Simply one line: lines = list(('-1 ' + x if x.lstrip().startswith('[') else x).lstrip().replace('/', ' ').split()[:-1] for x in __import__('re').sub('<.*?>', '', __import__('urllib').urlopen('https://www.f2pool.com/bitcoin-blocks').read().split('<pre', 1)[1].split('>', 1)[1].split('</pre>')[0].replace(' ', ' ').replace('<br>', '\n')).splitlines()[2:])
after that you can do: lines = list(tuple(a(b) for a, b in zip((int, lambda x: __import__('datetime').datetime.strptime(x, '[%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.%fZ]'), str, float, float, int, str, float, int, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01, lambda x: float(x[:-1]) * 0.01), line if int(line[0]) >= 0 else line[:7] + ['0'] + line[7:])) for line in lines)
I'm sure that seems obvious to those who have a comp sci background. I however don't, and if you just used <table> tags -- which is the HTML standard for tables -- I'd be able to parse it very simply using a language with which I'm familiar. Alternatively, consider a CSV or JSON API such as that created by matt4054 for AntPool: http://maaapi.mooo.com/info/blocks.phpEdit: @macbook-air - do you have a file of the pool's entire block history handy? The format isn't so important for a one-off build of the history until now. |
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Here the word Faith means faith in the Supreme.
Something that worship an idol is not a Religion.
That doesn't seem to be a majority opinion. BADecker's definition is as follows: The question is, is an atheist worshiping himself when he suggests that he is worshiping nothing? He is holding his views higher than God's, especially in the face of the scientific proof that God exists. The only strength that mankind has is from God. <snip> In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol: idol
[ahyd-l]
noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy.
(my bold, for emphasis) So, who is correct - your source or BADecker's source? And, once again: How is atheism "idolatry"? |
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Some interesting data there, will have a proper look when I get a mo. I see now why you are looking for the Shares per block info. I suspect there will always be some very big mining pools that continue to share no or very little information, which is going to make some of the analysis you would like to do impossible? Rich It certainly is impossible to perform a profitability analysis any of the pools that don't make the data easily accessible. More importantly though, the pools that don't provide (anonymised) user account hashrates also prevent us from having an overview of the health of bitcoin mining from a miner's perspective. Many pools provide this information, but not enough to account for a significant portion of network miners. |
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Atheism is idolatry in this way. God exists, and says that He is above all in the Bible. Atheists say He doesn't exist. Because of this, atheists are setting themselves up higher than God in their hearts. Atheism makes mankind out to be the the god. But since mankind is NOT God, atheists are setting themselves up as an idol. This is the religion of humanism. This is idolatry. No, that was sophistry. An idolator needs to worship an idol. An atheist worships nothing. The question is, is an atheist worshiping himself when he suggests that he is worshiping nothing? He is holding his views higher than God's, especially in the face of the scientific proof that God exists. The only strength that mankind has is from God. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry: Idolatry is the worship of an idol or a physical object as a representation of a god. The fact that an atheist doesn't know that he is worshiping himself doesn't make it untrue. From http://www.gotquestions.org/idolatry-definition.html: The definition of idolatry, according to Webster, is “the worship of idols or excessive devotion to, or reverence for some person or thing.” An idol is anything that replaces the one, true God. The most prevalent form of idolatry in Bible times was the worship of images that were thought to embody the various pagan deities. From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idolatry?s=t: idolatry
[ahy-dol-uh-tree]
noun, plural idolatries.
1. the religious worship of idols.
2. excessive or blind adoration, reverence, devotion, etc.
In conjunction with the above, from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/idol: idol
[ahyd-l]
noun
1. an image or other material object representing a deity to which religious worship is addressed.
2. Bible.
an image of a deity other than God.
the deity itself.
3. any person or thing regarded with blind admiration, adoration, or devotion:
Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.
4. a mere image or semblance of something, visible but without substance, as a phantom.
5. a figment of the mind; fantasy.
6. a false conception or notion; fallacy. An atheist is definitely an idolater. Sorry, I'm just not understanding what you're saying, or what the comparison is that you're drawing. Can you provide a concrete example - what exactly is it that you think atheists are worshiping? |
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A question before I answer yours: How is atheism "idolatry"? Isn't that reserved for other religions?
" Idolatry means the worship of images as if they were gods." - https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/idolatryWhere do you see the word Religion in that definition? Plenty of religions worship images as gods. Idolatry is the worship of an idol or a physical object as a representation of a god. In all the Abrahamic religions idolatry is strongly forbidden, although views as to what constitutes idolatry differ within and between them. In other religions the use of idols is accepted.
(my italics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IdolatrySo I repeat my question: How is atheism "idolatry"? Atheism is idolatry in this way. God exists, and says that He is above all in the Bible. Atheists say He doesn't exist. Because of this, atheists are setting themselves up higher than God in their hearts. Atheism makes mankind out to be the the god. But since mankind is NOT God, atheists are setting themselves up as an idol. This is the religion of humanism. This is idolatry. No, that was sophistry. An idolator needs to worship an idol. An atheist worships nothing. |
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Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do.
Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool
Medium sized pools: Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter
Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool
It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about.
What are you using the scraped data for, is it collated / presented somewhere? Rich Yes, it is: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-10th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html |
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OK understood. I do not think there is any more info & am not sure there are many of the larger pools other than Kano that put up that information? Rich Yes,unfortunately, not many of the larger pools do. Right now, of the larger pools: F2Pool (but not in a format useful for HTML scraping) and AntPool Medium sized pools: Slush, Kano, Eligius, GHash.IO, & BitMinter Small pools: EclipseMC, BTCMP, BTCDig, MMPool It seems to be something newer pools don't seem to bother about. |
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A question before I answer yours: How is atheism "idolatry"? Isn't that reserved for other religions?
" Idolatry means the worship of images as if they were gods." - https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/idolatryWhere do you see the word Religion in that definition? Plenty of religions worship images as gods. Idolatry is the worship of an idol or a physical object as a representation of a god. In all the Abrahamic religions idolatry is strongly forbidden, although views as to what constitutes idolatry differ within and between them. In other religions the use of idols is accepted.
(my italics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IdolatrySo I repeat my question: How is atheism "idolatry"? |
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You post in a thread discussing attitudes of atheists, and yet you can't have a discussion with one. Is it typical of religionists to just make assumptions about a subject rather than ask someone who actually knows about it?
If I ever want to know about attitudes and beliefs of religionists, I ask a religionist. However if you want to ask about the beliefs of atheists, you ask another religionist? What sense does that make?
Given that Believing involves Faith, your post is the key of all the discussion: FAITH. Faith: does it exist without God?For BADecker (user) Faith can be unrelated to God and, as atheists show some form of faith, user BADecker comes to the conclusion that: atheism is a Religion (user BADecker conclusion). My point: - Leave faith of the atheists aside (1 less problem to take care of) - Atheism is a capital sin (idolatry for 1st Commandement and punishment in the "Golden Calf episode", Ex 32:4) As you stated previously that you are an atheist, how do you relate to yourself the word Faith? Thank You Best regards. A question before I answer yours: How is atheism "idolatry"? Isn't that reserved for other religions? |
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In that case, you consider any dogmatic personal interest to be a religion. Law must be religion for police and lawyers; medicine a religion for doctors; computers a religion for IT specialists. Doesn't that seem to be a bit extreme?
A Religion is a sets of dogmas on Faith. There is nothing extreme on a definition. Best regards. So you're also ok with calling anything of importance to you a 'religion'? That's not how most people think of a religion. You said in previous posts that you are an atheist: your words have no meaning to me. If you are not an atheist or you said that previously by mistake ignore this message. Thank You. Best regards.
You post in a thread discussing attitudes of atheists, and yet you can't have a discussion with one. Is it typical of religionists to just make assumptions about a subject rather than ask someone who actually knows about it? If I ever want to know about attitudes and beliefs of religionists, I ask a religionist. However if you want to ask about the beliefs of atheists, you ask another religionist? What sense does that make? |
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As Kano mentioned, I wait for a pool op to request being added to the list, and they need to provide all the info requested in the first post.
Out of interest, does BW.com publish a publicly accessible block history, with shares per block?
OK understood, I just read this "This post is designed as a handy short cut to help you find your favourite pool's forum thread, or shop for a new pool" I guess that is why Antpool BTCC & others are not here? BW.com shows their recent Block history on the Website. https://www.bw.com/pool/iLonger Term is shown here. https://block.bitbank.com/blocks?w=BW.COMRich Thanks Rich. Is there a link that shows the block history, with shares per block? Not quite sure what you mean by per block, can you point me at an example, but as far as I know that is the only data available. Rich Number of shares submitted per block, such as here (labelled "Diff" in the lower table): http://kano.is/index.php?k=pblocks |
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introducing Tricky's Bitcoin pool, http://pool.wemine.uk started out as my own private pool which got me nowhere fast, now open to the public, please feel free to sign up and pool our resources, would be awesome to hit a block of BTC thank you, im sure i already posted in this thread, but extra posts are always welcome Sorry, didn't see it -- could you find it and repost? It was a post from a sigspammer and added no value effectively just repeating an announce for tricky's pool. Thanks ck. Could the pool op for "Tricky's Bitcoin pool" post a listing request with relevant data in the format I give on the first page? sorry for delay, lost the post and been waiting for somebody else to post to get it back in my list :/ Pool: Tricky's Bitcoin Pool Website: pool.wemine.uk Proxy: No Generation address: 1AePMyovoijxvHuKhTqWvpaAkRCF4QswC6 Coinbase signature: Payout method: prop Fee: 0 Pay Tx Reward: yes Vardiff: min 127 Local Work: stratum / gbt Pay Orphans: no. Min Withdrawal: 0.001 fee 0.0002 Merge Mining: No Done. Please check the listing for mistakes. Good luck - I hope your reward method doesn't cause you problems. I'd change to DGM or PPLNS ASAP. |
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Hey organofcorti, I just released this two: Pool: btc.mining-pool.io Website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322344.0Proxy: No Generation address: 1G3zxAms5GB2JJxAMtg3TrDhjJrKZ9ynzb Coinbase signature: /btc.mining-pool.io/ Payout method: PPLNS Fee: 0.9% Pay Tx Reward: Yes Vardiff: 18 SPM Local Work: stratum Pay Orphans: No Min Withdrawal: 0.00010000 BTC Merge Mining: No Pool: solo.mining-pool.io Website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322344.0Proxy: No Generation address: directly to miner's address Coinbase signature: /solo.mining-pool.io/ Payout method: Solo (newly generated coins) Fee: 0% Pay Tx Reward: Yes Vardiff: 18 SPM Local Work: stratum Pay Orphans: No Min Withdrawal: 1 Block Merge Mining: No can you add them to the list? Thanks for your time! Done. Please check the entry for mistakes. Good luck! |
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As Kano mentioned, I wait for a pool op to request being added to the list, and they need to provide all the info requested in the first post.
Out of interest, does BW.com publish a publicly accessible block history, with shares per block?
OK understood, I just read this "This post is designed as a handy short cut to help you find your favourite pool's forum thread, or shop for a new pool" I guess that is why Antpool BTCC & others are not here? BW.com shows their recent Block history on the Website. https://www.bw.com/pool/iLonger Term is shown here. https://block.bitbank.com/blocks?w=BW.COMRich Thanks Rich. Is there a link that shows the block history, with shares per block? |
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