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I've learned over the years that "Wired" isn't a credible news source.
Its the perfect read when you want to see the what meme the government is trying to push, but has nothing to do with the truth.
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Of course a cultural-marxist jewish woman would hate bitcoin: It frees productive people from being forced to fund her way of life.
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The NY Post is sorta like the Weekly World News in terms of credibility.
Edit: On second thought, the Weekly World News is MORE credible.
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I would not be surprised if the FEDs have turned MtGox into a giant honeypot since then.
Being somewhat familiar with how the US government operates, I put this at about a 99% probability. Its why I moved all my coins out of Gox back in early 2012. Late 2011/early 2012 was about the time that the US started really sticking its dick into everything bitcoin- especially Gox. |
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Just because governments sometimes do bad things, it does not mean that all bad things are done by governments.
No shit Sherlock. And who is saying this? On any given thread in Bitcointalk, the probability that at somepoint someone will blame the government for any problem they have ever encountered approaches 100%. and the probability that a govt troll will chime in is actually at 100%. Why don't you go play in traffic? Welcome to ignore-land. |
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but this would be the worst case scenario for bitcoin. If Mark stole the bitcoins...... that is bad. If he gave them away because of poor programming that is also bad. But if the government of the US can come and confiscate cold wallets of exchanges because some funds sent to that exchange were from crime........ then it sets a precedent for bitcoin that is terrible. It means that exchanges could no longer trust funds sent to them and they would voluntarily start going on "coin validation" schemes which would destroy fungibility. If it is true it is also terribly unfair because cash goes into banks all the time that is from crime in some form or another and they never go into banks and confiscate everyone's money because of it.
This could be a good opportunity to establish some positive precedents in the US Courts, and possibly force the government to return the coins. I don't think this is what happened though. LMAO...you're kidding, right? Ask some people who bought Liberty Dollars in Nov 2007 if they ever got their gold and silver back from the US govt. |
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Seeing as how not anyone on this forum has provided ANY evidence that proves otherwise, I'm sticking with this as a far more likely theory. Gox has been watched by the US govt for years now. If you were being pressured to conform to regulations, then had an account shut down by DHS, would you try to steal ALL the coins out of your cold storage wallet for everyone to see? No mention by the "experts" or general media of the transaction that started to disperse the cold wallet funds: https://blockchain.info/tx/478ea915aa3a2e54503c43e1c5659722b42a784412423a05394c83a44affb805. It would be a simple matter for the Feds to ask Karpeles why these transactions were made. We would already be hearing about it if they were. With so much heat, I simply cannot believe that Karpeles would try to steal hundreds of millions in broad daylight. Many will say it was incompetence. I don't buy that either. Transaction malleability doesn't explain how a cold wallet just starts dividing up coins. No one hacked the coins. They were moved by someone with the private keys, and maybe, that person had a gun to their head. To think that you can replace an entire monetary empire without these kinds of black ops being waged is completely ridiculous. The mainstream media story completely fits with the governments MO of "problem, reaction, solution" - there's a reason for that, and its not a coincidence. |
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Are you serious?? He's a career parasite. He's never operated in the free market and because of that he has never evolved. He only knows how to chase after money that has been extorted from taxpayers. After some reconsideration on my part, I'm pretty confident that this whole Gox fiasco has been engineered by the powers that be. Too much of a "problem, reaction, solution" approach that the video you posted only reinforces. The feds have been all over Gox for years now, and the story is he just lost the coins?? Or they were stolen?? I call bullshit. The Feds could easily force Mark to hand over the public addresses of his cold storage wallet and see where they went on the blockchain, but none of this has even been mentioned. I think the whole community is being fed a big pack of lies. I'm pretty sure the real truth is that the US government is stealing everyone's coins and there is really nothing Mark K can do about it. |
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I've been warning people about mtgox for years. They've had too much government involvement. USA is so much up mtgox's butt at this point that you have to consider that this whole mess is a 'problem, reaction, solution" operation.
After all, the coins were supposed to be in cold storage and it would be an easy matter for Gox to prove funds with addresses. The important point: The Feds know this.Then why the hell is there still a mystery as to where they are?
The only conclusion that can be drawn that makes sense is that the US government has stolen the coins, just like they like to do, but this time they're making it into a "we need more regulations to protect from bad actors" meme.
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More 'problem, reaction, solution' garbage, except now its the japanese govt.
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FUD FUD FUD, you have no proof that uncle sam took the cold wallets.
No but many intelligent members of the community have researched and sleuthed this and read between the lines with every shed of information they have been able to get about MtGox as well as all the information and events
that happened in lead-up to this. Remember that MtGox and Bit-instant (Charlie Shrem - BTCKing) have been under investigation due to connections to SR. We do have a precedent for this as the US Gov seized the SR wallets and the wallets of other dealers after this. In their power trip they have also seized the entire collection of MtGox cold wallets as well as all the data. We will probably see further busts and arrests.
This is why Mark is under a gag order. If he let the word out it would tip off people that are currently under investigation.
The hope is that after the dust settles people that weren't dealing or buying drugs on SR and other black markets or involved in any other crimes will get their BTC back. However I suspect we won't get the bitcoin back without a fight.
Unfortunately some elements of the financial establishment want to become dominant players in future of cryptocurrency and want to package this together with tighter regulation. Regulation that favors the existing financial establishment and make it almost impossible for small players to enter the market.
Remember the banks and the drugs cartels have a vested interest in crushing threats to their financial dominance such as bitcoins and markets like SR.
However in the future drug cartels will use cryptocurrencies instead of mountains of cash.You could have stopped there. You have no idea of what you are speaking about. If the coins were seized we would know and no gag order in the world would stop us from finding out. The coins were stolen and mismanaged and that's all there is to it. That kind of piss-poor reasoning makes you sound like a troll. Your statement is like this "You don't know what you're talking about! Things happened the way I say because I say so. I don't need any evidence!!" That's pretty classical logical fallacy, troll-like behavior. Just the kind of talk you'd expect from a bankster/govt troll. Your posts actually prop up the theory you're trying to dismiss. |
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The cold wallets and much of MT Gox fiat funds are being held by the US government. This is continued fall out from SR and Bitinstant. http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1z2xo5/speculation_the_us_government_has_control_of_goxs/If the Government is left continue as they wish without the community voicing opposition. The best outcome is that those who cannot be connected with SR will eventually get their BTC back. The worst outcome is that the government won't give anyones BTC back. Additionally JP Morgan is involved in trying to destroy Mt Gox /Mark and even the Bitcoin economy. The Bitcoin community needs to come together as one in this time of need. They are trying to divide and conquer us. This actually sounds pretty plausible, and the more I read the reddit post, the more convinced of it I'm becoming. I mean, who's better at stealing from people than the US government??If true, I'd have to take back all the nasty things I've said about Mark.  |
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At least she's smart enough to know that she has no authority, which more than you can say for a lot of the idiot politicians and bureaucrats.
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He's too late...Sen Chuck Schumer already banned bitcoin back in 2011.  ...and here I thought the stupidity was just an act. |
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Ahhh...nice to hear some intelligent conversation.
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