Let's remember that Charlie Shrem admitted ON THIS FORUM that he was a member of the Rothschild family. That, and the fact he was able to move large sums around and clear regulatory hurdles before anyone else means he's connected.
This whole event is just theater; psychological warfare. Are you buying it?
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Charlie knew where the money was going and he knew The Silk Road was no mail-order gardening supply store... Ya'll need to stop acting stupid.
1. There is no evidence that Charlie knew what the BTC he sold was being spent for. 2. Its not his responsibility anyway. 3. There are many legal things for sale on Silk Road too. Corp USA argument has no merit whatsoever - these are simply scare tactics.
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No. Is English your first language?
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TPTB only have to concoct a fake arrest to scare people from using bitcoin. Use this event as a buying opportunity.
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I just read it and its still bullshit.
-There are no money transmitting LAWS that apply to bitcoin. For that to be the case, Congress would have had to write bitcoin legislation since its 2009 - it hasn't. Title 31 wasn't about bitcoin when it was written and it still isn't. Trading money for bitcoin is no more illegal than trading money for sandwiches.
-This is all just political theater by the Freemason fag-douchebag troupe. Shrem is actually in on it - I guess to give him "street-cred". They timed it for just before a hearing on virtual currencies. Its not a coincidence. The chorus of agents chiming in on this forum is part of the ruse.
-The Silk Road allegation is ridiculous, as they can't be held responsible for how people spend their bitcoin anymore than a bank teller can be held responsible for how someone spends cash.
This is all meant to SCARE YOU. Is it working?
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I'd say most Americans lack a knowledge of what freedom means, from a constitutional perspective. They've been raised (as was I!) in this system with all the messages and such... Most never really question what they're taught. They just follow the herd, keep their heads down, follow celebrities.
"waking up" as it were, takes a lot of effort and can be frankly painful. Most people resist it with everything they have.
Waking up will take something other than a bunch of internet che guevara wannabes, who btw got his ass holed in while in the jungles of bolivia because reality turned out a little different than his fantasies. Your kind are the easiest to manipulate. This kind of juvenile bullshit 'rah rah rah fite da powa' is not freedom, neither is it 'exercising your rights'. It's just a whole lot of bitching. Fish rots from the head. Head of democracy is supposed to be level-headed, courageous and responsible people who have some back bone. Since we got a bunch of internet cunts acting the role, you are the greatest contributor to the degradation of democratic values and freedom - simply because you don't have what it takes to deserve them. Look to yourself before getting mouthy with the 'establishment'. Can't even take a breather to stop bitching and barking at 'THE MAN'. Pretty obvious name for an obvious government agent. Welcome to ignore.
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Government is trying to regulate it. If this guy participated in drug trade or money laundering, he's toast. Just like the internet, crypto will be reigned in one way or another. Deal wit it LOL...this is why I don't have to "deal wit it", you moron. Idiots like you still don't get it. Crypto is putting statism out of business. Deal wit it.
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Charlie Shrem could be a patsy and the NSA probably spied on him just like every other VIP figure in the BTC Network. It's only a matter of time before they start taking down other high profiles within the community!
No, its all political theater. Shrem will be fine. He registered with FINCEN. He's helping promote them. Its psychological warfare. Be scared, you could be next!
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Well actually there is a law. It is the BSA (or more correctly "The Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act of 1970"). The BSA gives FinCEN rather wide latitude in determining which institutions fall within its scope, and what regulatory requirements they must meet.
Which has nothing to do with bitcoins. @jballs - awesome name Did BitInstant only deal in bitcoins? ""The Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act of 1970"" doesn't apply to selling bitcoins. Of course Feds will say anything since they have the most guns (for now). Does "The Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act of 1970" apply to fiat transactions. Did BitInstant make fiat transactions? huh? I bought Jack n the Box today transacting with fiat...am I subject to "The Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act of 1970" ? No...derp
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Well actually there is a law. It is the BSA (or more correctly "The Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act of 1970"). The BSA gives FinCEN rather wide latitude in determining which institutions fall within its scope, and what regulatory requirements they must meet.
Which has nothing to do with bitcoins. @jballs - awesome name Did BitInstant only deal in bitcoins? ""The Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act of 1970"" doesn't apply to selling bitcoins. Of course Feds will say anything since they have the most guns (for now).
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This is all theater to scare people.
Shrem is in the good-ole-boy-secret-handshake-club himself, and the charges are completely ridiculous.
Not following FINCEN "guidelines" is not a crime, as there is no law. Even if there was a law, there is no jurisdiction.
Hopefully, some stupid people will sell and give me some cheap buy prices.
Actually not following FINCEN guidelines is one of the criminal charges against him. Specifically 'failure to report suspicious activity" which can land you in a federal prison for 5 years. Since he was arrested in New York, there is plenty of jurisdiction. ~BCX~ Actually, guidelines aren't laws, which is why they're called..."GUIDELINES", which is why there can be no real charges. It's either total bullshit theater to scare people (my guess), or the feds are just doing whatever they want with no respect for even their own laws (also plausible). Jurisdiction has several elements. Merely being in a geographic area doesn't grant jurisdiction. Well actually there is a law. It is the BSA (or more correctly "The Currency and Foreign Transactions Reporting Act of 1970"). The BSA gives FinCEN rather wide latitude in determining which institutions fall within its scope, and what regulatory requirements they must meet. Which has nothing to do with bitcoins. @jballs - awesome name
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This looks like a warning from the gorv
Fear the gorv!! The gorv will take your bitcoins and throw you in a rape cage!
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I think this is the media spreading FUD about cryptocurrency. What about the $1 TRILLION plus that the Federal Reserve laundered? I don't see that everywhere.
What gets me is you'd think they'd be trying harder.
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Could you please explain what the heck this is supposed to mean?
Part of the definition of being a "money transmitter" that allows the Justice Department to claim jurisdiction. On another note, after carefully re-reading, they did indeed register with FinCEN, but failed to file Suspicious Activity Reports on themselves. So they willingly contracted with FinCEN, which explains what this is about. Definitely all theater.
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It's all theater. Shrem admitted on this forum that he was a Rothschild - not exactly a poor family. Its the kind of lazy psychological warfare that works on a lot of retards.
Be scared...they're coming to get you next!!
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If The Bitcoin Foundation fails to expunge this guy, it will forever taint the entire coin in the general public's eye. The acceptance of the general public is the only path for Bitcoin to grow beyond what it is today.
Read the indictment, this guy was clearly funding illegal activity, exactly what Bitcoin doesn't need.
~BCX~
You're clearly one of the aforementioned scumbags. Please kill yourself and welcome to my ignore-land.
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I suggest read the indictment, Count Four "Willful Failure To Report Suspicious Activity" and its associated code which results in a 5 year prison term. It's an actual crime in violation of a law, not a simple guide line. Charlie was in the USA and is definitely within the jurisdiction of the USA. His other charges equal 20+ years. This guy is going to be busy for the next several decades in club fed. I suggest your read the indictment located at the bottom of this article. http://www.businessinsider.com/report-ceo-of-major-bitcoin-exchange-arrested-2014-1#ixzz2rcQNGOtj~BCX~ I'm not disputing that those are the charges. I'm saying that they are total bullshit and have no legal merit. Them stealing peoples money and calling themselves "prosecutors" doesn't change what's already in writing. They're making it up as they go along.
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DEPARTMENT OF COMMON LAW AND COMMON SENSE HAS ISSUED NEW GOVERNMENT GUIDELINES
reuters - Today, John White, Director of the DCLCS issued a statement that people who use the taxation of innocent people to fund their livelihoods must register as scumbags to adhere to new regulations. Scumbags who, in addition to using the extorted funds, then use them to attack people and kidnap people, must register as giant fuckwads by shooting themselves in the face.
***there, that's a "guideline"**
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This is all theater to scare people.
Shrem is in the good-ole-boy-secret-handshake-club himself, and the charges are completely ridiculous.
Not following FINCEN "guidelines" is not a crime, as there is no law. Even if there was a law, there is no jurisdiction.
Hopefully, some stupid people will sell and give me some cheap buy prices.
Actually not following FINCEN guidelines is one of the criminal charges against him. Specifically 'failure to report suspicious activity" which can land you in a federal prison for 5 years. Since he was arrested in New York, there is plenty of jurisdiction. ~BCX~ Actually, guidelines aren't laws, which is why they're called..."GUIDELINES", which is why there can be no real charges. It's either total bullshit theater to scare people (my guess), or the feds are just doing whatever they want with no respect for even their own laws (also plausible). Jurisdiction has several elements. Merely being in a geographic area doesn't grant jurisdiction.
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