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721  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: market-services(Hrvatski) on: June 22, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
Za sve koji bi nesto zaradili a nisu ovo vidjeli negdje drugdje:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0

Post sa svim aktivnim sig kampanjama, cijenama itd.
722  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 22, 2014, 06:19:15 PM
Moze jedno pitanje?
Koje su prve burze na koje altcoinovi dodju? Koje imaju onako najmanji prag tolerancije....gdje se nemora najvise platiti da te puste?

Pitam, jer nevidim razloga zasto nebi svi zajedno ulozili malo truda i vremena i postali "insajderi"?
Klonirati neki SCRYPT ili X11 ili koj god vec coin, napraviti neki premine i early mine, dogurat ga na burzu i zaraditi?

Ja imam VPS-ova, imam znanja sto se tice linux servera, github-a i web developmenta. Radio sam i u C-u...ono..postoje jebeni tutoriali kako se rade klonovi ala https://devda.ch/content/how-clone-scrypt-based-altcoins-fun-and-profit
Pa ono ajmo ne glumit idiote i pocet biti s druge strane "pulta".

Na Git-u imamo sve..od kodova za sam coin, preko GUI walleta do poolova. Samo mjenjaj ime i formulu za kolicinu coina i brzinu majnanja.
723  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 22, 2014, 12:08:28 PM
Bolje onda kupit ovo: https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140429083756017VwGm90Xx06B5
Duplo manja cijena za skoro istu stvar...
724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PayPal Integrating Bitcoin soon. on: June 22, 2014, 11:44:43 AM
It won't happen, there are too many issues with Paypal + Bitcoin, Bitcoin alone is much better

Issues? There is no issue except of lacking legal background concerning Bitcoin (as far as PayPal is concerned). They can implement it in so many ways...like holding payment in BTC form or fiat form etc....alot of posible options (and they dont have to select only one option....they can let customer pick). Escov service with su moch PR and reputation would be good for BTC even with their crazy fees (which they would lower for BTC for sure as they would not have to work with credit card houses in those transactions). It will be up to users to use them or not.
725  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 22, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
Mora ići gore ako misle da opstane, ali imas spondoolies SP30 2.5 kw 6 Ths to je referenca trenutno, ostali moraju pokušati još bolje... to je sranje jer šta asic bude efikasniji to će bitcoin biti jeftiniji...
Moze objasnjenje vezano uz to?
Po mojoj nekoj logici, veca efikasnost ASIC-a -> Veca brzina -> veci diff ilitiga, kako god okrenes, BTC je kreira jednakom brzinom. Nema razlike (varijacija ima izmedju diff change-ova) u brzini kreiranja BTC-a danas, prije 3 mjeseca, 6 mjeseci ili godinu dana.

Jedino sto bi po meni mogli imati utjecaj na cijenu je cijena najnovijeg hardvera. Ako moram platiti 5000$ da bi poceo majnati sa najnovijim hardverom, i ako taj komad hardvera moze iskopati 10BTC-a u svom radnom vijeku, onda ne zelim tih 10 BTC-a prodati za manju cijenu nego sto sam kupio hardver. Dali taj komad hardvera kopa 1Mh/s ili 1000TH/s je meni kao kopacu sasvim svejedno, jer mi diff nece dopustiti da iskopam 20 ili 40 BTC-a....uvjek ce biti 10BTCA +- neki sitni postotak (zbog vremena koje je potrebno da se diff promjeni).

Ili tu postoji jos neka caka o kojoj ja nemam pojma a utjece na odnos majnanja i cijene BTC-a?
726  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 22, 2014, 10:58:54 AM
Tri pitanje ljudima koji su vec kupovali ASIC-e za SHA.

Dali je do sada ikad bila situacija da se moglo kupiti miner a da nije u preorderu a da bi se isti i isplatio samim kopanjem (pod isplatio mislim da plati svoju cijenu i svu struju koju pocucla)?
Ako su svi isplativi ASIC-i bili preorder (kod ovih poznatih prodavaca ala KNC), dal vam se kad desilo da niste uspjeli dogurati do nule?
S kolko para ste krenuli u cijelu pricu, ako niste recimo jako rano usli u BTC (pa ste prodali dio kako bi kupili prve ASIC-e itd.)?
727  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: June 22, 2014, 07:46:40 AM
Ma ne zalim se za sada...samo rzmisljam dal da odmah prodajem sve ili da uscuvam nesto do izlaska na burzu.
728  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 22, 2014, 07:45:15 AM
Iz Hrvatske sam. Hvala na poduljem odgovori. Cini se da sam onda bez brige. Pravdat cemo se na MtGox. U Japanu je, i propali su. Dis bolje Grin
Samo imam i jednu lošu vijest.
Stručnjaci predlažu Vladi: Oporezujte kapital i imovinu
Zagreb, 20.06.2014.
Trošimo više nego što uspijemo uprihoditi. Pola proračuna odlazi na plaće i mirovine, a u to se ne dira. Oporezovati treba kapital i imovinu - kažu ekonomisti.
Ja imam ogromnu imovinu  radio platija poreze,platija PDV nešto uštedija i od te ušteđevine kupija imovinu,uvalila mi je i država dosta dionica na prevaru (stara devizna štednja)a poslije radila makinacije sa dionicama i dala kriminalcima upravljanje Sunčani hvar,brodospas,splitska plovidba kupija kuče,zemljišta,stanove i sad bi mi to oporezivala.očeš govno,Kupija sam jedrilicu od 41 stopu (na svoje ime i platija PDV od 25%)i sredit ču papire od jedne karipske države ako triba kupit ču tamo i kuču.gledat ču prodati svu imovinu u RH i pare prebacit u USA i u zlato i u trezor kupija bi i srebro ali di ču uskladištit te silne tone a imat ču problema i sa zlatom.
Stalne promjene poreznog sustava loše su  za privlačenje investitora,mislim kapital je jedan obični plašljivi zec.ma boli mene kurac za penzionere,branitelje,birokrate,političare ako im trebaju pare neka ga zarade.ali da otmu meni,vama krvavo zarađenu crkavicu taj film neče gledati.
Trenutno zbog naglih promjena poreza ja ne mogu prodati nekretnine i pobječi s parama odavde.Samo retardirana budala ili mazohista ulaže u RH

ćisto sumnjam da naši imaju muda udarit porez na kapitalnu dobit. Merkelica će pozvat Milanovića i sve će se to smirit. Pogledajte koje pare lete iz Hrvatske... Tcom, Lidl, Kaufland etc

Zasto etc? Sto nebi bilo krace navesti firme koje nisu u stranom vlasnistvu?
Automehanicarska radnja "Jura", teta s placa Mirjana, vodoinstalater "Cjevko"....eto...
729  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: June 21, 2014, 08:57:52 PM
Monero ide u ponedeljak na Mintpal, explodirat če.

Jel ovo potvrdjena informacija? Stavio sam svoje grafick ena to...izvlacim iz njih 850 h/s
730  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you sometimes think Bitcoin will fail? on: June 21, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
If BTC stays in current form, it will fail eventually. Good thing is BTC is in middle of development, and i dont really think development will ever stop, so future can be as brght as we make it. As far as number of confirmations go, there are talks about "instant payment" procedure, there are talks about help with decentralization etc. It's not like development is over, and we have finished product.
731  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: market-services(Hrvatski) on: June 20, 2014, 09:11:07 PM
Rate iste, al broj postova skresan...ok..400 ce i dalje biti doovljno...na sljedecem ranku super dovoljno
732  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo on: June 20, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Shouldn't he be rotting in jail right now.

Why? He just stole some virtal money or something like that? Honest fella...
733  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is China so important for Bitcoin? on: June 20, 2014, 06:43:27 PM
Cmon now guys. Who is stupid enough to say that 1.3b people are not important?!! Are you plan and simple crazy? On crack?!
Of course China is important. But not in "it will kill BTC" way. China adopting BTC would speed up (by huge amount of time) adoption of BTC and price ofc, but they can not kill it, just slow it down. BTC can survive easy w/o 1 single Chineese touching it, but it can flourish if for example whole china accepts it.
734  Other / Off-topic / Re: I hate my life!!! on: June 20, 2014, 06:29:38 PM
Would you at least cure some desease or stop a war or two?
735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: solution to rubber hose attacks on: June 20, 2014, 06:27:23 PM
Underground sentry guns...i'm telling you guys...they solve your "home" problems...
736  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo on: June 20, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
I'm pretty much sure, he has enough of "private" BTC that wa snever in those large BTC adresses. If you'r wondering who is selling 1-2k BTc when those drops happe, now you know who  Grin
737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bolivia’s Central Bank Bans Bitcoin on: June 20, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
Wasnt that posted like 12 hour ago if not even longer? Do we really need repost? I wish mods just delete reposts like this.
738  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 20, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
Mene zanima, dali ce ASIC-ima cijena ici gore brze od ovoga sto ja uspjevam ustediti...nadam se jednog dana kupiti neki ASIC za BTC majnanje...

Nego, eto jedno pitanje za BTC rudare. Kako su se kretal cijene ASIC-a do sada (od kad su izasli)? Jesu li uvjek bili u ovom rangu od par tisuca dolara il je krenulo od parsto dolara i stabilno raste prema cijenama na kojima su sada?
739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PayPal Integrating Bitcoin soon. on: June 20, 2014, 04:22:14 PM
I don't understand why would paypal/ebay would integrate bitcoin ?
Paypal business model = paypal only way to pay.


farking bastards at ebay/paypal.. if you owe fee's they just deduct it.. don't ask.. simply deduct. wtf is that..
I don't know if they still do this, but years ago if you had no $$ in your bank account and paypal had no way to get the money back, you would get a debt collectors letter straight away. nice way of of conducting business.


PayPal is using MANY fiat currencies now. BTC would be just another currency. They earn money on fees for their escov service (that's what they are now and that's what they will stay with BTC). BTC is not PayPal's enemy, BTC is just another tool to earn even more money for PayPal. Those who don't see that are pretty much blind.

People do not use PayPal because they "like" them, they use it because of safety PayPal gives to Buyer. With BTC safety will stay same + it will be even larger for seller and everyone will be happy.
740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PayPal Integrating Bitcoin soon. on: June 20, 2014, 04:01:50 PM
bitcoinmania.eu/paypal-bitcoin-integration-coming-very-soon-says-ebay-ceo-international-business-times-uk.html

No one in their right mind would use BTC to pay for anything on PayPal. The credit card chargeback protection has always been the front lines of consumer protection from seller fraud on PayPal. Buyer wins 99% of the time.

Most likely there's no way to tell how the buyer is paying. However if there was a way to require BTC payment, that would be a game changer for sure. Because PayPal's policy is not to interfere with intangible goods. Buyer is basically out of luck. Scamming will go the other way as sellers receiving PayPal payments will be secure from chargebacks.

Then there's the issue about withdrawls in BTC and having your PayPal account hacked.

Who will receive BTC payments? PayPal or the seller? It will be interesting to see how this will work at the end. Either way there's probably going to be scamming as usual.

Nothing chages for PayPal or Buyer or Seller as far as BTC integration goes.

Buyer buys something for BTC, BTC goes to PayPal who than transfers it to $ and holds just like they hold fiat. When all requirements are met, they send $ to seller (or mybe there would be option to convert $ to BTC and send BTC to seller if he wishes).
If chargeback happens (in period while PayPal holds BTC/fiat), PayPal just returns BTC/fiat equivalent to buyer.
Only thing that changes is that, PayPal is now in control of chargeback decision. Now, credit card houses are one that decide will there be chargeback or not in most cases, not PayPal, with BTC PayPal could actualy start protecting Seller too.
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