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841  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 17, 2014, 01:26:27 PM
pozdrav ekipa  Smiley

jel ima netko možda kakvu stranicu za preporučit di bi se uz malo truda mogo upecat kakav BTC?  Grin

mislis uz malo truda da ti netko da 3000 kn ? i mene zanima onda

Molim da se i meni prosljedi informacija ili tu u topic ili na PM. Bilo bi pozeljno da metoda ne zahtjeva niti registraciju jer vec i sad imamo dovoljno spama na mailu.
842  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 17, 2014, 01:23:38 PM
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Pojavit če se prije ili kasnije pravi međunarodni crypto coini koji če biti pod kontrolom centralnih banaka
nodovi če biti serveri centralnih banaka
samo centralne banke mogu autorizirati transakciju
organiziranje mjenjačnica je pod kapama centralnih banaka
Waleti su u funkciji jedino pod elektronskom autorizacijom koje izdaju banke/agencije pod nadzorom
itd evo jedan moj copypaste prijašni prijedlog
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EDIT: skratio quote da ne listamo ko budale non stop

To sto si predlozio je obican fiat sistem preko interneta i ne mjenja puno toga naspram trenutnog stanja. Smanjuje mozda malo troskove slanja novaca internacionalno (posto je sve centralizirano, pijavice bi nakon nekog vremena pocele i te kako lupati fee-eve) i to je vise manje to. To imamo i sada. Takav sistem nebi bio nikakva konkurencija BTC-u, on bi samo zamjenio papirni fiat sa crypto fiatom.
Prebacivanje na taj sistem bi imao utjecaj na BTC identicno kao sto bi imao utjecaj prebacivanja HRK u EUR jednog dana kad i AKO steknemo sve uvjete za to.

Ono sto si prije napisao...stvarni opern source otvoren svima napravljen od profesionalaca sa glavom i repom, bi mogao srusiti BTC. Ovo zatvoreno, centralizirano? Nikako....
843  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Official announcement from Ghash.IO on: June 17, 2014, 01:16:23 PM
How short sighted people can be? Everyone is talking about ghash....ghash this, ghash that. It's not ghash fault! They are doing their business, and doing it really good! If you want to blame anyone, than blame bitcoin protocol or, even better, people that maintain it and refuse to change it so 51% attack is prevented.

It's like noone knows that 51% situation already happened before ghash. And still, people that have power to fix it, are not doing anything.

So on one side we have pool that does it's job and on other side we have people who have power to fix problem at the source. Who should we blame....i know...let's blame pool. How dare they doing their job THAT good?!
(I'm selling pitchforks and torches if anyone is interested...0.001 per torch, 0.005 per pitchfork)
844  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin not decentralized anymore? on: June 17, 2014, 12:39:37 PM

This is a hard fork that is required.

What happens next time we get 51% ?
Move your miners again?


Yes! that is exactly what hashers (distinct from miners) should do. My advice is simple: if a pool has more than 30% of the network hash-power, point your hashers at a different one.

If you get tired of switching pools, you can join P2Pool (or something like it): it is a decentralized pool.

If a hard-fork happens, I will have to re-evaluate my interest in Bitcoin. A pool (Deepbit) controlled more than half the hash-power before. No hard-forks were used to correct that: people simply moved away from the pool. I fail to understand why that is not a viable option every time a pool gets too large.


Because people in general, are greedy bastards. As we could see few days ago, ppl DID NOT move their miners away from pool that HAD 51%!! That pool had to move it's own hash power!! So relaying on "people" is as bad as it gets. Hard fork is needed very very much. "People" are really bad at making decisions that go against their own profit (moving to other pool for example where they will earn little bit less).
845  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Addresses: What happens after 20 years? on: June 17, 2014, 12:36:27 PM
Add adresses and wallets that are intentionaly deleted after some time etc. Not only there is shitload of them, they recicyle too. Cool stuff if you ask me. It's really hard to express how large this numbers are to someone not close to mathematic and phisics. For example i tryed to explain this to my father and i just gave up after some time. Now that i have this block of text (name of number) i think it's gonna be much closer to him....just to see how freaking long does it take to pronounce it  Smiley
846  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: June 17, 2014, 11:45:13 AM
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Evo Stunna potvrdio da sam na listi za isplatu. Ako sve prodje dobro, zaradio sam si oko 0.2 BTC-a u 10 dana. Ako se potrudim i ako rank naraste do sljedeci puta, eto me na 1 BTC-u! Goooo Stunna!

Imas josh sest nedelja dok ne dubes sr. member posto na svake dve nedelje se dobije 14 za rank a ana 240 je sledeci tj sr. member.



aaaw...6? To je dugo  Sad
Steta...no dobro...cak i bez sljedeceg rank-a ako se potrudim, skupit cu taj BTC koji sanjam vec neko vrijeme  Grin
847  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: June 17, 2014, 11:39:58 AM
Evo Stunna potvrdio da sam na listi za isplatu. Ako sve prodje dobro, zaradio sam si oko 0.2 BTC-a u 10 dana. Ako se potrudim i ako rank naraste do sljedeci puta, eto me na 1 BTC-u! Goooo Stunna!
848  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: June 17, 2014, 11:38:35 AM
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Anyone who has PMed me please fill out this form bit.do/Primedice to get added to this list. Anyone who requested payment but didn't re-enroll simply use that form to do so.

Thanks for that list.
849  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 17, 2014, 10:36:14 AM
Jel neko mozda zna da li je neki alt coin u jedno vreme vredeo oko 50$ ili vise i koji ?

Evo ti primjer:
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/141
42 Coin. Jedan trenutno vrijedi 8.72 BTC-a. U jednom trenutku je vrijedio vise od 1000 BTC-a komad!!!!!!1111UPITNIK

I sad naivac si misli: WOW! 8 BTC-a!! Pa to je ludilo coin! Ne..nije....i to je shitcoin ko i svaki drugi. Samo je zamisljen tako da ce ga se iskopati max 42 od pocetka do kraja nejgovog postojanja. I samo zato jer ga je tako malo je i taj omjer "cijene". ono..kopa ga se po 0.0000001 i sl pizdarije...nije da ces ikad u blizoj buducnosti imati niti 0.1 a kamoli 1 42Coin, osim ako nisi dovoljno glup da ga kupis u toj kolicini. Sama cinjenica da mu je vrijednost pala sa 1000 na 8 ti daje do znanja o cemu se radi.
850  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 17, 2014, 10:30:02 AM
Evo, briso sam post iz ovog topica, i otvorio sam mu thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655394.new
Sto se mene tice, ja sam zavrsio pricu Smiley

Ne zelim se prepirat, ali onda u biti i bitcoin je shitcoin po tvome.

Nemoze Bitcoin bit shitcoin kad je prvi... Sve ostalo su kopije koje mozda na neko vrijeme zazive i onda polako odumiru. Bitcoin ne.

Realno, ne.

Bitcoin moze vrlo lako biti "MySpace" kripto valuta. Moze doci neka valuta koja ce ga pomest samo tako. Koja ce od prvog dana imati sredjen sistem odrzivog majnanja "za mase", koja ce imati od prvog dana zastitu od napada za koji se zna "od prvog dana", koja se nece bojati napraviti hard fork kad nesto negdje zasmrdi, koja ce mozda automatizirai i olaksati promjene itd.
Od Bitcoina se moze PUNO PUNO bolje. I ako netko sa dovoljno novaca krene ozbiljno, "pa pa" bitcoin. Neka od velikih firmi moze uloziti pardeset milja, okupiti timove i napraviti super coin koji ce odmah prihvacati kod sebe + dogovoriti sa par velikih sestrnskih firmi da ga i one odmah prihvacaju....Bitcoin bi imao i te kakvih problema kad bi se to desilo u trenutnom stanju i trenutnoj rasirenosti.

Mislim da Bitcoin trenutno spasava samo nepostojanje zakonskih okvira u Americi ili EU (EU kao cijelini). Kad se jednom zakonski okviri posloze, onda ce se u kripto svijet baciti i veliki igraci (PayPal, Ebay i njima slicni). Zamisli da sutra Amerika donese sve potrebne norme i pravila....zamisli da Ebay odluci napraviti svoju valutu. Pa Ebay ima vece trziste od svih merchanta koji koriste Bitcoin zajedno. Uz kolicinu novaca koje Ebay / PayPal mogu spaliti na PR, pregazili bi Bitcoin jako brzo.

Jedina sansa koju BTC ima je da ovo stanje sa nepostojanjem zakonskin pravila i normi jos potraje i da se u medjuvremenu skockaju, da im narastu muda i da napokon naprave neke promjene koje su morali napraviti davnih dana.
Ja osobno volim BTC i ideju iza njega, no ako se ne potrude da odrze tu ideju (jer im ona iz dana u dan klizi kroz ruke), prije ili poslje ce doci pravi igrac, i otpuhati ga u ropotarnicu povijesti kao sto je Facebook otpuhao MySpace i sl. servise.

Evo gledam mailing listu...pokrenuta prica o "Bitcoin mining decentralization"....nula bodova...uopce se ne prica o tome....ne diskutira...kao da nikoga nije briga.
851  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 17, 2014, 10:11:58 AM
Evo, briso sam post iz ovog topica, i otvorio sam mu thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655394.new
Sto se mene tice, ja sam zavrsio pricu Smiley

Ne zelim se prepirat, ali onda u biti i bitcoin je shitcoin po tvome.

Jep i to je vise puta na vise foruma napisao. Jako negativan tip za nekoga tko je zaradio puno para na Bitcoinu...
Ili samo bolno realan....jer....iskreno, Bitcoin ima poprilicnu sumu negativnih stvari koja je mogla/trebala biti drukcija/bolja
852  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Српски (Serbian) on: June 17, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
Jel gledao itko partizana i zvezdu sinoc?  Cheesy
Nisam mogo vjerovat sto gledam...
ahahaha 3 na 5 igrali jbt

Mogao je jedan iz zvezde da predje za partizan, onako skolski. Cheesy

Nego, jel ima neko mozda ko je na CEX.IO? ja sam krenuo sa time malo, posto sam na faksu trenutno pa je malo guzva oko svega pa nemam bas vremena za sve, pa reko da ostavim tamo nek se polako majnuje, e sad jel ima neko mozda da mi da koji GHS? Imam oko 10GHS trenutno i nesto mnogo sporo. :/

Na cex se ne isplati to ama bas nikako . Preskupi su ghs nikad neces da vratis ulozeno.

Mnogo je bolja opcija http://pbmining.com/?p=MICRO , koristi moj link Tongue . Ali za njih neki kazu da su moguci ponzi , mada rade vec dugo i sta ja znam kao legit su. Ja sam svoje ulozeno vratio posle 4 meseca.


Btw koji rezultat bio u kosarci ?

- CEX.IO - se nikako ne isplati. GHS ti nikad nece vratiti ulozeno, tj. nikad nece izmajnati onolko BTC-a koliko si potrosio da bi ga kupio. Ono sto je moguce je da izmajnas odredjenu sumu, i da prodas GHS po slicnoj cijeni po kojoj si ga kupio, pa da si na taj nacin u plusu.
No kako tamo imas ekipe koja drzi tisuce i tisuce GHS-a, kad oni krenu prodavati cijena pada u suludim postotcima, tako da je pitanje dal ces uopce doci na nulu i sa prodajom GHS-a

-PBMining - je 100% piramida. No kao i u svakoj piramidi, zarada je i te kako moguca sve dok dolaze novi ljudi. Na tebi je da procijenis dali si dosao "dovoljno rano". Ako mislis da je jos dovoljno rano, da se sajt nece ugasiti nakon 3-4 mjeseca, onda ces sigurno imati zaradu. Za razliku od CEX-a ovaj sajt nema opciju otkupa GHS-a. Kad si ga jednom kupio, to je to.
Ja sam naprimjer otplatio 2 contracta i na ta dva contracta mi ide cista zarada...skroz OK ako se mene pita.....pa nek potraje kolko potraje.
853  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: June 17, 2014, 09:58:35 AM
Stunna can you provide a new list, to see if everything is ok?



This would be appriciated. I'd really like to check if my submission was good and if my BTC adress is correct.
854  Economy / Services / Re: [PrimeDice] [Highest Paid Signature] Earn up to 2.4 BTC/Month by Posting on: June 17, 2014, 06:19:52 AM
I submited my data trough that new form. Is there somewhere a list where i can see did i do it succesfuly or not?
And whed will payments start? I had old adress in my profile that i do not use anymore. I changed it quickly, but id on't know if adress gathering is automated or not, so i don't know whould i submit payment request maybe again now that adress ic changed? I'd hate to see BTC go to adress noone can use anymore.
855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Some online gold dealers will not accept tumbled or shared coins on: June 16, 2014, 08:59:15 PM
One way or another all coins will have been tumbled in the future if people actually continue to use bitcoin for transactions.

What then?

Exactly! More BTC is used, more coins get mixed. No freakin way this can survive long term IF it's even happening right now (which i doubt). It's just not possible.
856  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Hrvatski (Croatian) on: June 16, 2014, 08:07:16 PM
Ako nisi nigdje postao svoje osobne podatke....sta ti se moze desit?
857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Quantum Computing Will Affect Bitcoin on: June 16, 2014, 07:39:52 PM
This was addressed by the core development team (Andreason?) a while back. Apparently it's pretty easy to switch things over to a new security protocol. It would require a hard fork obviously but it shouldn't be to difficult to coordinate an "upgrade day."

Yes, jus like dealing with 51% attack...easy....just little bit of hard forking..."we'r gonna fix it once it happens"  Angry
858  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Slush vs BTC using 3 Antminer S1 observation on: June 16, 2014, 07:29:18 PM
Slush has less users so every block is devided on smaller amount of ppl. But, as there is less users / hash rate, blocks are found less often.
With Guild, there are moe ppl / more hash rate, so reward is smaller, but block come more often.

It's like: "Do you want meto give you 2$ every 2 days, or do you want 1$ every day"....same thing.
859  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Help with solo mining? on: June 16, 2014, 07:27:09 PM
Do you have free electricity?
If not, read on. If do, skip my post.

I'd advise to take same amount of BTC you spent on those miners and go to one of dice sites. Pick 2x reward and press hi or low.
Pretty much same thing (probable MUCH greater chance of winning!) but at least you wont have to spend $$ on electricity.

I don't know how much combined hash power you have, but it doesn't look like you'll mine anything in like years...and that's just silly with not free electricity and stuff.
860  Economy / Economics / Re: How can I get near exact predicitons for bitcoin price in the coming 48 hours ? on: June 16, 2014, 07:20:29 PM
I look at my crystal ball of Future Telling every day. Thing is that damn thing takes BTC as fuel. So basicly i have to throw in 1 BTC just to earn 1 BTC in that same time....
I'm working on kind of magic to improve it so i can at least earn enough to pay for time i spend using it....freakin perpetuum mobile...
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