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1281  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-30]Cryptocurrency Custodian Anchorage Adds Insurance Coverage on: May 30, 2019, 09:20:48 PM
The coverage comes as the result of a partnership with major insurance broker Aon. Previously, Aon stated that the firm was seeing more cryptocurrency-specific protections catering to the new cryptocurrency industry.

A few years ago, Aon was ranked largest insurance broker in the world. It's pretty amazing to see legacy giants like that entering the cryptocurrency space.

I'd be curious to see what the terms are like. It sounds pretty pricey:

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Bloomberg’s sources say that premiums for crypto-related firms can tally to over fivefold the average coverage costs of a traditional corporate insurance policy, sometimes as high as 5 percent of coverage limits annually. Policies may require “as many as a dozen underwriters” to chip in $5-15 million of protection apiece.
1282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Another Satoshi filed claim for Bitcoin Whitepaper on: May 30, 2019, 09:03:53 PM
But absolutely anyone can file a claim right? that's established. It means nothing.

And yet there's still plenty of BSV shills coming out of the woodworks claiming it's proof of something. At least now we can turn around and say, "Craig Wright is no more legitimate than Wei Liu."

I was hoping this stunt would tempt lots of other people to file similar copyright registrations, proving how silly the whole thing is. Maybe this is just the start. Smiley
1283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin usage and misaligned expectations on: May 30, 2019, 07:24:17 PM
Maybe we could afford for it to be a selling point years ago when transaction demand was very low and the block subsidy was very high. Cheap transactions didn't hurt miner incentives when block rewards were 50+ BTC. That's changing. In 5 years, the block subsidy will only be ~ 3 BTC. Shouldn't fee revenue be rising to compensate miners? How long can miners be expected to subsidize users with cheap fees?

I think Satoshi was naive with some of his economic assumptions.

I probably don't know enough about the subject, so please be patient with me.

I'm not defending Satoshi, but maybe he thought that BTC's rising value (it is deflationary by design after all) would offset the loss in mining revenue of the decreasing block rewards? I mean, I'd bet that 3 BTC 5 years from now would still be a lot more valuable than 50 BTC from a few years ago. I understand that mining costs are also increasing, but isn't that what the difficulty adjustment is for? It ensures that there will always be financial incentive for miners, regardless of transaction fee revenue.

Fee revenue is essential if there is a hard cap on supply. That was the whole design -- subsidize mining early on to bootstrap the network, then eventually fees will replace the subsidy. Otherwise, network security is utterly dependent on an ever-increasing price, since speculation would be required to incentivize miners. We can't simply assume that price will keep rising forever and that that is a sustainable incentive for miners. We have to consider a future where the design is more self-sufficient.

Consider a context where price is crashing for years and years rather than rising. Difficulty will adjust downwards but if block rewards are also steadily dropping (due to lack of fee revenue), we could see downspiraling hash rates to the point where the network becomes insecure and loses its Byzantine fault tolerance.

I concede that transaction fees will have to rise, and that micro transactions won't be plausible at some point anymore (nor would it indicate failure). My concern is that it still has to be cheap enough as to not be detrimental to adoption. My views may be a little too naive though (like how Satoshi's may be lol), so I would appreciate any insight.

This is all a big experiment. The whole idea of "cryptoeconomics" is brand new, and the whole field of economics isn't scientific. We all have different opinions about how things might work out in the future.

My primary emphasis is on the mining incentive, because it's the supreme building block of the entire system. From my perspective, we can't plan on never-ending price increases nor exponentially increasing adoption. But we can ensure that strong mining incentives remain -- at least relative to the system's native currency, if not fiat currency value -- by ensuring that increased transaction demand nets higher block rewards.

If we let mining incentives bleed away to nothing by increasing block sizes -- while still retaining a hard cap on supply -- I don't see a bright future for Bitcoin.
1284  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-31] Bundesbank: Blockchain Slow, Expensive, Not A Breakthrough on: May 30, 2019, 06:57:38 PM
According to statements made in Frankfurt on May 29, Bundesbank President Jens Weidmann claimed that a trial project to integrate blockchain failed miserably.

“The blockchain solutions did not fare better in every way: the process took a bit longer and resulted in relatively high computational costs. Similar experiences have been made elsewhere in the financial sector. Despite numerous tests of blockchain-based prototypes, a real breakthrough in application is missing so far.”

As it turns out, the "Blockchain, not Bitcoin" mantra was a load of crap. Who would have thought? Smiley

So what do you think went wrong with this trial of Germany's Central Bank using the blockchain technology? Maybe the whole process was not conducted as it should be that is it failed miserably...or maybe this is just a bluff especially coming from a centralized banking organization?

Putting aside the central bank conspiracy angle for a moment... I expect to see lots of similar statements in the coming years as people realize that Bitcoin may be the money of the future, but that doesn't mean "blockchain technology" is going to revolutionize various industries.
1285  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-30] Forbes - How Billionaires Are Buying Up Bitcoin on: May 30, 2019, 06:46:52 PM
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"One of our clients approached us and said they were interested in acquiring 25% of all bitcoin currently available," Dadiani said. "There are a number of entities who want to dominate the market."

A quarter of all bitcoin currently in circulation, including those bitcoin that may be permanently lost, is around 4.5 million and worth a staggering $38 billion at current exchange rates.

Dadiani said this kind of accumulation is not possible to "realize" but her company has been instructed, "to scour the markets and gain access to as close to 25% as possible."

This is a bit hard to believe. Quite bullish for the market if true, though. If I were trying to accumulate millions of bitcoins through Dadiani, I might be pissed off to hear her blabbing to the press like this.

One interesting tidbit about demand:

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"At the moment, people just want to buy bitcoin. There's little interest in other cryptocurrencies but we have not been doing this long and would be open to others in the future if clients wanted it. If someone wants large amounts of ether or another major cryptocurrency, we would likely be able to find a seller."
1286  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-30] Coinstar Expands to 2,200 Locations After ‘Overwhelming’ Bitcoin De on: May 30, 2019, 06:32:15 PM
They are much less impressive when you actually use them than they make them sound.

Essentially, you can't buy bitcoin directly with your change. You have to give the machine your change, and it will give you back paper notes minus a ~12% fee. Then, with those paper notes, you can buy a voucher for bitcoin. This bitcoin voucher will be sold at around $300-400 dollars higher than the current average rate on major exchanges, and you will be charged a 4% fee on top of that. Then with your voucher, you can sign up to their partners' website, complete full KYC procedures, and then be allowed to withdraw your bitcoin to your own wallet.

Essentially fees, fees, fees, and KYC. This is one of the least efficient and most expensive ways you could choose to buy bitcoin.

I remember using these Coinstar machines in supermarkets years ago to turn change into cash. There were certainly fees, although 12% sounds like they've definitely risen over time. It's kind of cool to see them integrating the ability to buy bitcoins but you're right, the process for customers is pretty awful.

It seems like buying bitcoins requires full KYC (ID and selfie required) for any amount, which seems ridiculous. I certainly won't be using them.

They must be just about the worst possible deal in cryptoland and that's really saying something. I can't quite believe they have the gall to advertise it the way they do.

I guess it works for the people who think of change as worthless. So, they still feel like they're getting something for nothing. Remember the Lawnmower app? Sort of like that. Lawnmower was way better, though.
1287  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin usage and misaligned expectations on: May 30, 2019, 07:29:45 AM
I don't know about almost zero, but I feel like cheap fees should still be a priority going forward. Cheaper fees than ones charged by third party payment processors was one of the primary selling points of Bitcoin, and Satoshi even addressed it in the introduction part of the white paper:

The cost of mediation increases transaction costs, limiting the minimum practical transaction size and cutting off the possibility for small casual transactions, and there is a broader cost in the loss of ability to make non-reversible payments for nonreversible services.

Maybe we could afford for it to be a selling point years ago when transaction demand was very low and the block subsidy was very high. Cheap transactions didn't hurt miner incentives when block rewards were 50+ BTC. That's changing. In 5 years, the block subsidy will only be ~ 3 BTC. Shouldn't fee revenue be rising to compensate miners? How long can miners be expected to subsidize users with cheap fees?

I think Satoshi was naive with some of his economic assumptions.
1288  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Has someone filled out the new verfication questions for Bitstamp? on: May 29, 2019, 09:30:25 PM
Bitstamp being overly nosy doesn't surprise me. They always took the cake for having the most invasive AML/KYC measures. I wouldn't put up with this kind of invasion of privacy. If you're in Europe, Kraken and Coinbase Pro are some other options that support SEPA funding.

Sorry, but why would your net worth be any of their business? My bank, my insurance provider, even the government don't know my net worth - why does a crypto exchange need to know? Just another exchange going over the top with ridiculous KYC requirements.

Net worth and annual income are pretty standard questions for verifying accredited investor status. When GDAX had margin trading, I remember using leverage was restricted to accredited investors. Doesn't really apply to Bitstamp, though...
1289  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-28] John McAfee: Bitcoin Time Traveler Proof BTC Will Hit $1 Million on: May 29, 2019, 09:16:38 PM
Apparently a big portion of broad crypto community values opinion of this lunatic - his twitter is quite popular, and a few years ago he was pumping ICO shitcoins for money, and his services were pretty expensive.

I think McAfee undermines the image of crypto, it would be sad if people outside this industry though that he represents it - he's a very shady person and makes a lot of crazy statements.

Many people know that McAfee is an unscrupulous character, but they're also happy to see prominent people hyping up Bitcoin or their altcoins. Other people just have blinders on and are riding the hype train too. People will latch onto any minor celebrity who they think will pump their holdings. This is what happens when people become financially biased.
1290  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SSD vs HDD: what it means for Bitcoin scaling? on: May 29, 2019, 04:32:37 AM
SSD storage is getting cheaper and cheaper. Between that and the use of pruning, I don't think there's much concern here. Efficiently accessing the UTXO set is a much bigger concern. So, transitioning to SSDs should actually be a good thing for scalability. From the Bitcoin wiki:

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The primary limiting factor in Bitcoin's performance is disk seeks once the unspent transaction output set stops fitting in memory. Once hard disks are phased out in favour of SSDs, it is quite possible that access to the UTXO set never becomes a serious bottleneck.

by the way the problem with UTXO set has nothing to do with block size that OP is talking about, UTXO set can grow even if block size was 0.5 MB since it is the "Unspent Transaction Outputs".

Who said it had anything to do with block size? Smiley

Since the OP was asking about SSD adoption's effect on scalability, I suggested that SSD adoption is actually good for scalability because of their efficiency in accessing the UTXO set. It seemed like a relevant observation...
1291  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is successful? - this one statement sums it up! on: May 29, 2019, 04:09:23 AM
It's called first-mover advantage. But the 1 MB block issue will ultimately be the currency's undoing.

The market seems to disagree, so when do you expect a "flippening" type event to occur? Years, decades?

By the way, it's a 4MB block weight limit now. It's rare to see blocks < 1MB anymore.
1292  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is successful? - this one statement sums it up! on: May 28, 2019, 11:27:45 PM
There are so many alt coins that are far better than bitcoin in terms of technology, Concepts and Decentralization

That's utter nonsense. No altcoin codebase is more rigorously tested than Bitcoin. No altcoin network is more secure. Altcoins are much more centralized in their mining or staking distributions. Some altcoins may have shiny new gimmicks -- most of which aren't worth porting into Bitcoin -- but "far better than Bitcoin" is simply wrong.
1293  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SSD vs HDD: what it means for Bitcoin scaling? on: May 28, 2019, 10:46:57 PM
SSD storage is getting cheaper and cheaper. Between that and the use of pruning, I don't think there's much concern here. Efficiently accessing the UTXO set is a much bigger concern. So, transitioning to SSDs should actually be a good thing for scalability. From the Bitcoin wiki:

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The primary limiting factor in Bitcoin's performance is disk seeks once the unspent transaction output set stops fitting in memory. Once hard disks are phased out in favour of SSDs, it is quite possible that access to the UTXO set never becomes a serious bottleneck.
1294  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Can We Expect A Legally Compliant Bitcoin Bank Soon? on: May 28, 2019, 10:29:58 PM
Whether you're referring to a crypto friendly bank or an actual bank for crypto, I honestly don't see the use of it. Bitcoin is everything that banks are against, I don't see them going together, to be honest, but that doesn't mean that we won't see services trying to do so, I can actually see BitPay or Coinbase doing this because, for me, they both look like they are trying to centralize crypto or at least, change it to something that is not. And trust me, it's not gonna take that many years, it's probably just around the corner.

It won't just be Bitpay and Coinbase -- in fact, I think they are underdogs in this game. Within a decade, I think we'll see legacy retail banks like Chase, Bank of America, etc. offering cryptocurrency deposit and investment accounts alongside fiat accounts. We're seeing the institutional side take off already, with involvement from Fidelity, Morgan Stanley, the ICE, CME Group, etc. When Bitcoin gets big enough, this will expand into the retail sector.

It's a shame, but that's the direction I see things heading.
1295  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Which Mixer is getting axed next? on: May 28, 2019, 08:18:21 AM
So much money ?  Not all people uses a sevice like this and mixing site owners do still need to pay in order for thier site to keep on running  .i think the reason why mixers are getting shutdown is because they are illegal ? You know hackers and scammers use this service to get away the coins that they stole   

It's a legal grey area. I haven't seen any regulations passed that specifically affect mixers. I'm sure they are used by some people to launder money, but even in the Bestmixer case, Europol seems unsure of the extent. Notably, no one was arrested in that case, either.

I imagine Bitblender was spooked by the Bestmixer bust, especially if they have operations in Europe. If so, hopefully they're planning to relaunch under a new name and from a new location.
1296  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what is the "real" bitcoin, "Satoshi vision",... on: May 27, 2019, 09:56:49 PM
You are providing the truth but with wrong example.
The discussion about which one is the real bitcoin chain is fairly simple, the one decided by (majority of miners). That's the only and valid reason.

No, miners must comply with Bitcoin's consensus rules, which are enforced by all full nodes on the network.

For example, miners could begin mining a chain that inflates mining rewards beyond 21M bitcoins. The network of full nodes, however, would ignore that hard forked chain as invalid and the mining rewards would be worthless. So, miners will only build on a chain that the Bitcoin network accepts as valid.

Bitcoincash miners came together to undo an profit made by an attacker. It's not just a miner but all miners in two of it's largest pools. They did it because they were sure it's for the good of Bitcoincash. It does not mean bitcoincash is centralised.

Effectively, it was done by two pool administrators who used their collective hash power to 51% attack Bitcoin Cash to reverse previous transactions. This does suggest Bitcoin Cash is pretty centralized since it took very little coordination to successfully attack the chain.
1297  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-27]Franck Muller Releases Luxury Watch With Bitcoin Cold Wallet Functio on: May 27, 2019, 09:30:48 PM
The best cold wallets can't be recognized in plain view. Things like encrypted wallet.dat on general purpose storage (like thumb drives). Seed words can also be hidden in plain sight, mixed in with ordinary media like books and magazines.

This can actually backfire, it's easy to forget with time in which book you've hidden your seed, or forget on which flesh drive you've placed your wallet.dat file and then accidently overwrite it.

That logic may have applied in 2010 when bitcoins were worth very little. I have a hard time believing many people today are going to forget where their thousands or millions of dollars worth of coins are stored. I certainly know where all my copies are.

Still, you point out good reasons why it's prudent to have multiple methods of backing up cold storage -- in case of things like corrupted storage or forgotten encryption keys. And also perhaps a system in place for transferring ownership in case of sudden head injury or death.

But I don't see these things as justifying the use of hardware wallets. Whether we're talking about supply side attacks or physical robbery/$5 wrench attacks, general purpose hardware is a safer bet.
1298  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance and EUR/BTC on: May 27, 2019, 08:05:04 PM
I am currently exploring some crypto exchanges to buy bitcoins and I was wondering if Binance has EUR/BTC market because I couldn't find EUR/BTC.

Their main site (binance.com) doesn't have fiat trading pairs -- only stablecoins like USDT. However, they recently launched a separate site based in Jersey (binance.je) which has EUR and GBP trading pairs for Bitcoin and Ethereum.

And by the way, how do you rate Binance as exchange? What is for you, the best exchange at this moment?

It has the best liquidity you can find for altcoin and stablecoin markets, and it also has the best KYC policies. It did suffer from a major breach recently where around 7,000 bitcoins were lost to hackers, but they fully covered customer losses and seem to have bounced back well.
1299  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-05-27]Franck Muller Releases Luxury Watch With Bitcoin Cold Wallet Functio on: May 27, 2019, 07:55:00 PM
The best cold wallets can't be recognized in plain view. Things like encrypted wallet.dat on general purpose storage (like thumb drives). Seed words can also be hidden in plain sight, mixed in with ordinary media like books and magazines.

Aside from my discomfort with the potential attack surface, this is the other reason that hardware wallets bother me. They announce, "I own crypto! Rob me!"

This watch does the same thing -- to an even further degree, since it's a luxury watch that costs tens of thousands of dollars.
1300  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Minimum fee for confirmation on: May 26, 2019, 09:07:03 PM
I'm using electrum and it gives me the option to choose fee per byte. Now the question is how much minimum fee per byte is required to pay if I want to get the transaction comfirmed within next 24 hours at maximum?

The estimated rate required will frequently be changing as network congestion waxes and wanes. A fee rate that gets confirmation within 24 hours today may not work the same next week.

That's why, like o_e_l_e_o mentioned, you should use a site like Johoe's Mempool Statistics. For your purposes, I would visually look over the last 24 hours of activity, then manually choose a fee rate near the lower bound of confirmed transactions.

Over the last 24 hours, we've seen the mempool completely cleared many times, so right now 1 satoshi/byte is probably enough. You might add an extra satoshi or two per byte just to be safe.
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