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1381  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-04-22] You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning on: April 23, 2019, 07:50:51 PM
I have been using PurseIO for over a year now, and while they are a big blocker service, they do offer a very useful service to Bitcoiners to buy any item from Amazon with discounts up to 25%, now that's what I consider super cool.

Have you done a lot of volume through Purse? I probably spend 5-figures a year on Amazon and I've always been tempted by those discounts on Purse, but the fraud risk concerns me. I remember seeing this story and after that I decided not to try it.
1382  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The middle ground for all skeptics and enthusiasts on: April 23, 2019, 07:36:48 PM
I saw a lot of skeptics of BTC and crypto in real life, and lots of enthusiasts who see crypto world through rose-coloured glasses. I must admit personally I am leaning towards skeptics, I surely believe that future economic relations will change thanks to what BTC already did, but all those who say again and again"BTC is future, fiat will die" just do not understand what they are talking about simply misunderstanding what experts want to say.

Here is an article, which I believe provide middle grounds for both sides and would be useful for everyone here, in case you missed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/technology/bitcoin-tulip-mania-internet.html

Regarding how big I thought Bitcoin could get, I began as a skeptic. I remember thinking things like "niche currency" and "internet novelty" back in 2014. At that time, "tulip mania" seemed like a plausible comparison. Not anymore, though. I'm definitely more of a believer now.

I think fiat will eventually be replaced by a return to a fixed exchange rate system with commodities like gold and silver. After enough time, I could maybe see bitcoins being used along gold and silver in the same manner too.

However, I don't believe Bitcoin will "replace fiat" and I don't think government-issued currencies are going away. I think Bitcoin is just gradually joining the ranks of commodities historically seen as "money" and I also think fiat money systems will eventually be replaced.
1383  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan to Provide G20 With Solution for Crypto Regulation on: April 23, 2019, 07:25:48 PM
https://news.bitcoin.com/japan-g20-cryptocurrency-regulation/

It remains to be seen whether the other G20 countries are interested though.

I really hope other countries don't take the route of Japan, who can only be described as over-regulating. Japan is using its licensing scheme to force exchanges to de-list any cryptocurrencies it deems to be a threat. Several exchanges have de-listed privacy coins as a result:

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The FSA has also informed other exchanges applying to be registered, that dealing with these three highly anonymous cryptocurrencies [Monero, Zcash, and Dash] would be detrimental to gaining approval.

I'd much prefer to see a more hands-off approach to regulation.
1384  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think should happen with @bitcoin handle on Twitter? on: April 22, 2019, 10:32:55 PM
Do you really consider that Jack Dorsey should step in and take some kind of action?

That would be satisfying in some ways, but it's a slippery slope. Who is supposed to have authority over that handle? Who will Twitter/Jack give it to if they do take action? Bitcoin isn't a corporate brand, so it's not a trademark issue. What terms are being broken?

I think people should just get over it. Satoshi didn't care that bitcoin.com was already taken when he started the project. I feel the same way here.
1385  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If there is no hard fork, will the real value of Bitcoin be higher now or lower on: April 22, 2019, 10:18:24 PM
I think it would have been a lot higher. The fork that caused the most damage, was Bitcoin Cash. This fork used clever tactics to confuse potential investment in Bitcoin <BTC> by hijacking Bitcoin <BTC> domains and re-directing traffic to platforms where they sell Bitcoin Cash. Most people bought Bitcoin Cash by mistake and only realized this when it was too late.
 

I'm sure some Bitcoin Cash supporters sold their bitcoins, and some newbies were mistakenly diverted away from Bitcoin. However, I think there were also lots of Bitcoin supporters who sold their bcash for bitcoins. It's hard to know in concrete terms how much these things affected price.

Compared to the activation of Segwit, though -- which basically launched the vertical stage of the 2017 bubble -- the effect of the fork was probably negligible.
1386  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin versus Gold, the conflict on: April 22, 2019, 10:05:57 PM
Are the two in competition? I don’t think so. Gold has been in existence for almost from the beginning of the world while bitcoin has just been here since few years ago. I don’t also see they are in conflict. People are comparing investments between the two but both has different characteristics, features and uses.

They are competing in the sense that both are -- or could be -- used as store-of-value assets that hedge against currency failure or devaluation, failure of banking systems like bail-ins, etc. In that sense, they each occupy a certain "market share" of the store-of-value space.

Bitcoin proponents often take the position that since it has some superior characteristics -- predictable scarcity, portability, the ability to be transferred over a communications channel -- it will eat into gold's market share.
1387  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Amazon and Bitcoin on: April 20, 2019, 06:35:22 PM
For Amazon.com you can buy inside the Copay wallet.

Not anymore, but it's still available in the Bitpay wallet. No premium, of course. It seems insane to pay an 8% premium for the privilege -- Bitrefill is crazy with their premiums. It used to be that we'd get a discount through Gyft or eGifter for using Bitcoin.
1388  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Amazon and Bitcoin on: April 20, 2019, 09:14:18 AM
We really need Amazon to start accepting Bitcoin as payment again.

Has anyone heard anything in this space?

It's way too early to expect that. The market is not very liquid and with Amazon's volume, they risk not being able to easily settle to fiat currency without losses. I don't think a company of Amazon's size can just set up a Bitpay account, nor would they want to. Then there's the scalability aspect to consider.

I could see it years down the road if/when the markets are more liquid and Lightning is more ubiquitous and easy-to-use. Until then, you can buy Amazon gift cards with bitcoins. I buy them through the Bitpay wallet myself.
1389  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-04-18]Will we Observe Bitcoin Sign on the Spire of Notre Dame? on: April 19, 2019, 11:55:16 PM
I imagine we won't. That also sounds incredibly tacky. Smiley

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Other French cryptocurrency enthusiasts have supported the appeal. At the press time, there have been collected just 0.02760433 BTC from 11 donations.

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As of this writing, the [Binance] campaign has received 29 donations in 12 hours. Contributions top 1.47 BTC

Between these two Bitcoin charities, that's around 7,000 euros in donations, compared to the more than 1 billion euros donated by prominent philanthropists. It sounds like enough donations have already been received to cover the restoration entirely. I imagine the Church, given its global network, could probably have covered the costs itself anyway.

Seems like Changpeng Zhao didn't give much in spite of his billionaire status and all the publicity he generated around his charity.
1390  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: John "fucking" McAfee: I will reveal Satoshi on: April 19, 2019, 07:09:52 PM
John McAfee claims to know the identity of Satoshi and has made several twitter posts suggesting he will reveal the identity if the they do not reveal themselves.

I don't know if he really knows who he is, but he is probably the most credible person to come forwards claiming to know or be him.

John McAfee, credible?

Like the way he does paid promotional tweets to pump altcoins? Or maybe you're referring to his plan to eat his dick on live television? Or the way he was suspected of a gruesome murder a few years ago and was found civilly liable for the man's death?

Sounds like a really credible dude. It's too bad the Craig Wright debacle shows these sorts of lies can go a lot further than one might expect.
1391  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Transaction Volume $7 Billion Daily on: April 18, 2019, 09:17:17 PM
According to Anthony Pompliano, on-chain bitcoin transactions reached $7 billion per day, putting it head and shoulders above Venmo. This, according to him, makes bitcoin the "killer app."

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1118506225052860416

He didn't post his source for the data, but I'm assuming that number doesn't account for change outputs.

If I send a 2 BTC output to make a 0.05 BTC payment, it shows on-chain as a 2 BTC transaction but that's a drastic overestimation of the actual economic activity taking place. The Venmo numbers aren't inflated in this manner.

It's still really impressive, but I think this is important to point out.
1392  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Cowboy Binance Wants to Play by the Rules on: April 17, 2019, 03:49:03 AM
ICOs are not regulated, this whole market is not regulated, there is no law enforcing them to comply by KYC rules but 90% of them add that.

The SEC chairman has said virtually all ICOs he has seen fall under existing securities laws. He also said that under existing law, securities transactions paid in cryptocurrency entail the same AML/KYC requirements as cash payments:

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Second, brokers, dealers and other market participants that allow for payments in cryptocurrencies, allow customers to purchase cryptocurrencies on margin, or otherwise use cryptocurrencies to facilitate securities transactions should exercise particular caution, including ensuring that their cryptocurrency activities are not undermining their anti-money laundering and know-your-customer obligations.[7]  As I have stated previously, these market participants should treat payments and other transactions made in cryptocurrency as if cash were being handed from one party to the other.

So, if an ICO is making its offering available to US residents, they are definitely regulated by the SEC and other US agencies. Even if they prohibit US residents, other countries (or blocs like the EU) have AML/KYC regulations too.

I think the "wild west" days where everyone thought no laws applied to cryptocurrency are pretty much over.
1393  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Cowboy Binance Wants to Play by the Rules on: April 16, 2019, 10:09:11 PM
the days of centralized exchanges are numbered in my opinion and the more they push for more restrictive rules that are bad for the whole community the faster they go in direction of becoming obsolete.
the decentralization of exchanges and most other services (such as market places) have begun.

That might work fine for cryptocurrencies and tokens, but what about fiat? Fiat exchanges are the most bogged down by concerns about AML/KYC, licensing and regulations. We can tokenize fiat to work with a DEX, but how do we get that fiat money into people's bank accounts?
1394  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Cowboy Binance Wants to Play by the Rules on: April 15, 2019, 10:54:35 PM
http://fortune.com/2019/04/15/binance-regualtion/

Compliance focused strategy seems to be leading the way with Binance's recent partnership announcement with cyber security and blockchain forensics firm CipherTrace. Fraud and money laundering are real and if we can somehow avoid it at all costs that seems fair to me, what are your thoughts?

The elephant in the room is whether they can maintain their current KYC process. They seem to be trying to do so by ramping up their blockchain analysis and selective KYC. I'm curious to see how much more common account freezes and forced KYC become for unverified users.

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While Binance is confident that all of these activities are legal, others are not so sure. David Silver, a Florida-based attorney who has brought class action lawsuits against numerous cryptocurrency companies, believes Binance has been playing with fire.

“The crypto-to-crypto aspect helps hide what they’re doing and makes it harder for regulators to catch them. They’re going to need to legitimize because the world isn’t going to let them move massive amounts of money through countries in which they’re not regulated but have active users. That will eventually come to bite them in the ass,” said Silver.

I have a feeling he's right.
1395  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IT’S HAPPENING - Both sides of US Congress Unite & submit MAJOR Pro-Crypto bill! on: April 13, 2019, 09:39:25 PM
Warren Davidson (Republican) and Darren Soto (Democrat) are behind the bill

These are not influential congressmen. I wouldn't get your hopes up.

However, a bill authored and introduced by members of both parties will require politicians to actually look into what it's about.

You'd think so, but bipartisan bills get shot down all the time. My read of the bill is that it's too taxpayer-friendly and investor-friendly. I think it'll be fought hard on the issues of consumer protection and tax issues like the like-kind exchange provision and the $600 exemption on exchanges for goods and services.

I believe even if they don't understand the technical aspects, the core concept is quite simple: using regulations written in 1945 and applying it to technology invented in 2008 is absurd.

It's not that absurd. In the US, the laws affecting cryptocurrency are pretty lax. As for security tokens, it's not clear to me why they should be exempt from securities laws if other securities aren't.
1396  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-04-11] Bitcoin Futures Exchange Bakkt Hires PayPal, Google Vet as Product on: April 13, 2019, 09:26:07 PM
Bakkt won't be approved. It's the same nonsense they keep repeating where from time to time they tease the public with an investment round or a new member addition to their crew, but it's meaningless.

People first blamed the government shutdown for the delays, then the CFTC needs more time to work through all the comments, and soon we'll see them point to another excuse as to why it still hasn't been granted an approval.

I'll laugh pretty hard if all the Bakkt hype leads to nothing. Didn't they raise like $200M in seed investment just a couple months ago? That's a lot of money to see evaporate into thin air.

So, what's the holdup? LedgerX got CFTC approval for custody and physically settled derivatives almost two years ago.
1397  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: AGAIN: China says it wants to eliminate bitcoin mining on: April 09, 2019, 10:49:03 AM
Honestly, why do people care so much about what China feels about the cryptocurrency market? They clearly do not like Bitcoin and the crypto market which is why I do not find this news surprising to say the least.

China is home to the largest mining gear manufacturers, mining pools and purportedly hash rate. Adverse actions from the Chinese government could have significant and sudden effects on the mining sector, which could cause panic in the market. I don't think this would be the end of the world, but I think it would shake up the market quite a bit.
1398  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Discussion: optimization of mempool fee levels on: April 06, 2019, 06:58:54 PM
If you'd like to make a case that some people are paying higher than you when they'd really rather wait longer than you for confirmation-- that might be interesting.

In some cases, users obviously are paying higher than me when they'd rather wait longer.

The Copay wallet (and Bitcoin.com's which is based on it) is very problematic because it's a sleek wallet with easy UI for beginners -- lots of newbies use it. Users have no manual control over fees. If they choose to the lowest fee option -- which means they specifically don't need next-block confirmation and are willing to wait several hours -- they are paying up to 5x-15x what it actually costs to get in the next block. A couple examples:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7ngbng/how_to_avoid_fee_sending_btc_from_copay_wallet/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/89xx9d/copay_is_the_most_broken_bitcoin_wallet_137/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6fyxs9/copay_super_economy_confirmed_in_11_minutes_are/

Coming from Bitpay/Bitcoin.com, it feels like a continuing political attack. I think they've been deliberately charging users absurdly high fees, which has had an unfortunate spillover effect on the fee market. This is what newbies see when they choose the lowest fee option (4 hour estimated confirmation time) and are still being overcharged for next block confirmation:



I'm sure there are many users who are happy to pay more than they need to. But I can't imagine all users looking at earn.com's estimator and sending 160 satoshis/byte for the "fastest and cheapest transaction" when there's 1,400 transactions in my mempool down to 100 satoshis/byte want to overpay. They just don't know any better, and unfortunately the Copay wallet and earn.com have been highly recommended for years on social media and this forum.

I agree there's no real way to fix this and the OP's idea won't really work. But I'm willing to acknowledge that it's a shitty problem for the network in spite of my appreciation for the design of the fee market. Users will keep overpaying because of shite fee estimation and ignorance and now that fees are strongly trending up again, they'll start blaming the protocol and complaining more loudly about it like in 2016 and 2017. I sort of wonder if we're gearing up for another political attack.
1399  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Discussion: optimization of mempool fee levels on: April 04, 2019, 08:17:48 PM
I think it is necessary to punish wallets that do a bad fee estimation because they damage the user experience and ultimately bitcoin in general.

Indeed. I've always hoped these wallets would lose users due to higher-than-normal fees -- Copay is one example, and they don't even offer Segwit to boot. But the reality is that they drastically inflate the entire fee market so everybody is forced to similarly overpay to get any reasonable guarantee of confirmation.

I do seriously resent these assholes who immediately jump up 10-20 satoshis/byte just because there's 2,000 transactions in their mempool. This type of deliberate overpayment really screws us all over and it's really rampant. It snowballs when there is any spike in demand for block space. People are cramming $100 bills into a coin slot. It's just a tough philosophical problem because people should be able to compete in the fee market. It just sucks that the tendency of many wallets -- and people who are manually setting fees and rounding up to the nearest 10 sat/byte -- is to drastically overpay to maximize chances of getting in the next block. When everyone is overpaying so much, we all have no choice but to do the same.

You bring up an interesting point, that's for sure. These users are hurting my interests, driving up my costs, and relaying their transactions only reinforces their bad behavior. Miners have financial incentive to reinforce this bad behavior, but what's my incentive as a user and node operator?
1400  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin was predicted as a new global currency on October 19, 2008. on: April 04, 2019, 07:22:19 PM
Bitcoin was predicted as a new global currency on October 19, 2008.
Even before Satoshi's White Paper.

https://twitter.com/AllHodl/status/1113763664878870528
 
Who can rationally explain this?

That post is really unclear and vague. The "end of 2008 / early 2009" bit looks like a coincidence. I'm guessing the reason the author made that speculation is because it was October 2008. He sounds like a crackpot who's just saying, "Something is about to happen!" Go pull up the guy's posts from 2006 and 2007. You'll probably find other similar conspiracy theories and baseless predictions.

Edit -- I guess it's a fake, anyway.
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