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1121  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-21] FATF: "37 Global Crypto Exchanges Must Now Share Customer Data" on: June 24, 2019, 08:27:07 PM
  Looks like we will have to chose Magic, new crypto-trading platform from John McAfee. https://www.coindesk.com/john-mcafees-new-crypto-trading-platform-magic-goes-live
  He is a freedom fighter this days, I follow him on Twitter.

He's a snake oil salesman.

Have you even looked at that platform? It looks like it was coded by complete novices.

More importantly, "McAfee Magic" is not actually an exchange. It's just an interface that integrates APIs from other exchanges. You still need to have accounts at these exchanges -- and you need to complete their KYC processes.
1122  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's huge carbon footprint - deal breaker on: June 24, 2019, 09:32:21 AM
Power generators always generate much more electricity than actual demand requires to maintain grid reliability and prevent blackouts. They sell that excess electricity cheap -- as long as doing so nets more than the costs to store the electricity. Since Bitcoin miners are incentivized to find the cheapest possible energy, it's a match made in heaven.

If some combination of large scale load balancing and renewable/green energy sources could be used to secure trustless money, that would be pretty great.
1123  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: June 24, 2019, 09:14:59 AM
There are some reports the hacker from the 2016 Bitfinex hack has been arrested. I would take this with a grain of salt until there are confirmations from reliable sources.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/report-two-israeli-brothers-arrested-for-hack-of-bitfinex-crypto-exchange

I don't think so. The authors of both the Cointelegraph article and the Finance Magnates article it's sourced from seem confused. This is all that was reported on Finance Magnates:

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Another suspicion that was raised by the investigators was the brothers’ alleged connection to a 2016 hack of several accounts that traded on Bitfinex. However, the police spokesman refused to elaborate on that matter.

According to the Israeli Police, the victims are mostly EU and US citizens, and therefore the case is currently being investigated by “police cyber units in several countries”.

I could be wrong, but it doesn't look there's any real connection to the 2016 Bitfinex hack. These guys just hacked a bunch of Bitfinex accounts and emptied them out. The author of the Finance Magnates article misspoke and said it was the 2016 Bitfinex hack. Cointelegraph -- being the trash that it is -- repeated it without fact checking.
1124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Libra VS Bitcoin (2 Coins Enter 1 Coin Leaves????) on: June 24, 2019, 09:01:33 AM
IF as you state above "people start holding funds in Libra/Calibra instead of bank accounts". As you quote above, this would be IMHO very, very bad for Bitcoin as a 'store of value'

Why so? Most people already use bank accounts. Why does it matter if some of those people take some of that value and hold Libra instead of dollars or euros?

If LIbra has the option to gain interest as a bank and be its 'own store of value". I am somewhat unclear on this, however. With all the online banking in the world, I find it hard to

believe that if Libra is sanctioned by the gov't and powers that be, it could not be allowed to also act as a bank and pay interest and do loans like any other web-based bank

out in the world. Thus, if this came to pass, could not Bitcoin and other open source coins be 'pushed out' and Libra replace Bitcoin?

Libra users will have a centralized currency backed by quickly devaluing fiat currencies. Why would that replace Bitcoin?
1125  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin usage and misaligned expectations on: June 23, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Pokemon Go reached 1 billion downloads in two years, Facebook, which is only 4 years older than Bitcoin, has 2.4 billion active users, Twitter, which is the same age as Bitcoin has 330 million active users.

Those platforms are free. Bitcoin has financial barriers to entry -- that should be expected to hamper its adoption by orders of magnitude vs. free platforms. Those platforms also didn't exactly need to bootstrap a network from scratch like Bitcoin. They were built on exponentially growing technology trends (smartphone and social media adoption) that tapped into already existing gamers and social media users.

Bitcoin needs to have exponential user growth to get on par with those mass products, which it actually might do at some point.

The adoption rate of any given technology only goes vertical one time. It hasn't happened yet for Bitcoin, but looking at the ongoing trend and changing popular attitudes over the past ten years, I'd say we're approaching that point.
1126  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-21] FATF: "37 Global Crypto Exchanges Must Now Share Customer Data" on: June 23, 2019, 08:10:29 PM
What should they do if someone withdraws coins to their wallet instead of sending them to another exchange? Or deposits from their own wallet?

I'm not sure. There seems to be an implication that service providers will share information so they can identify specific persons by analyzing both sides of a transaction chain. I guess this isn't so different from Coinbase analyzing customer withdrawals multiple transactions out to identify gambling service transactions and terminate customer accounts accordingly.

This is what Bittrex and Kraken had to say:

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“It’s either going to require a complete and fundamental restructuring of blockchain technology, or it’s going to require a global parallel system to be sort of constructed among the 200 or so exchanges in the world,” Roth said. “You can imagine difficulties in trying to build something like that.”

A handful of U.S. exchanges are discussing how to set up such a system, said Mary Beth Buchanan, general counsel at San Francisco-based Kraken, which does about $195 million in daily volume.

What about mixers and other privacy schemes, are they going to outlaw them or what?

Apparently the FATF guidelines mention mixing services:

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The guidance even addresses services designed to obfuscate the origin of crypto transfers, saying nations should make sure that providers can either manage or mitigate the risks of transfers that use mixers, tumblers or similar tools. “If the VASP cannot manage and mitigate the risks posed by engaging in such activities, then the VASP should not be permitted to engage in such activities,” the document reads.

I know Gemini has prohibited the use of mixers in its terms of service for some time. We might see codification of laws intended to require these sorts of practices. Whether mixers would be outright banned is another matter.
1127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Remember when transactions were slow and expensive on the last bull run(2017)? on: June 23, 2019, 07:36:45 PM
One contributing reason why the mempool got really congested in the bull run of 2017 is because of the lack of SegWit support from the exchanges and from the bitcoin users in general. While SegWit adoption is a lot higher this year, it's still nowhere close to 100%. So please, just so the same won't happen like in 2017, use a wallet that supports any of these two:
  • P2SH addresses (3xxxx...)
  • Bech32 addresses (bc1xxxx...)

Not to mention that you're going to save a significant amount of satoshis when you transact quite frequently(when using P2SH or Bech32).

P2SH transactions won't necessarily save you money on fees. P2SH ≠ Segwit. P2SH is just a type of output comprising a hashed script. Many types of transactions use it, including multi-signature transactions which are much, much larger than standard or native Segwit transactions.

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‘P2SH and ‘non-standard’ transaction categories, which together comprise 87% of atypical transactions, have average byte sizes that are 52% and 80% higher than ‘basic’ transactions, respectively.

Of note, P2SH transactions have accounted for 7% of total transactions thus far 2015, while the overall data size is disproportionately higher at 10% of the total.

Source: https://tradeblock.com/blog/analysis-of-bitcoin-transaction-size-trends

While Segwit adoption can mitigate some fee pressure (by removing witness data from legacy blocks), we shouldn't overstate its effects on the fee market. It still only represents a small linear increase in overall block size.
1128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FULL NODE DONWLOAD on: June 23, 2019, 07:24:58 PM
Apart from you being a good guy and maybe getting a pat on the back, there are no literal benefits of downloading the full node.

There's no economic incentive, but it's the only way to fully validate a proof-of-work blockchain. Using an SPV wallet implies trust, and leaves one vulnerable to attacks that can't be mounted against full node operators.

Once you've validated the entire blockchain, you can save space by pruning.
1129  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-16] US Federal judge threatens to hold Craig Wright in criminal... on: June 23, 2019, 07:09:53 PM
This thread needs a resident lawyer.

I can't see the rest of the US legal system giving the slightest shit about this, and certainly not the UK government if some sort of extradition thing ever happened. All of these people have vastly better things to do with their time.

Extradition pertains to criminal prosecution. Nobody is getting extradited over ignoring a court summons in a civil case in the state of Florida. Roll Eyes

The thing I don't get about any of this is Craigy must have paid someone to tell him that he couldn't continue lying if he went down this path. Did he not listen or did he pay them enough to say the opposite?

He's either ignoring his lawyers or getting advice from lawyers who should be disbarred from practice.

It's actually turning into a fraud case so there may be criminal charges to follow

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. For now, this extradition talk is complete nonsense.
1130  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-21] FATF: "37 Global Crypto Exchanges Must Now Share Customer Data" on: June 23, 2019, 07:02:13 PM
On second thought, the FATF is probably not as effective as I originally assumed. According to this 2017 report, most monitored countries have only instituted basic AML regulations like making money laundering a crime and requiring banks to report suspicious transactions. Most of their recommendations go unenforced:

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As of April 2017, the level of country compliance with the FATF 40 recommendations rests at just 25 per cent across the 30 countries most recently assessed. While this is definitely an improvement since 2011, when full compliance across 160 countries was at 12.3 per cent, taking 27 years since the standards were introduced to get to a 25 per cent compliance level cannot exactly be called rapid progress. 

This sort of noncompliance may be relevant in the case of Bitcoin exchanges and brokers that don't currently require KYC:

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[A]reas where the majority of countries are rated “partially compliant” or “non-compliant” include requiring firms to carry out due diligence in non-financial fields such as real estate, law and accounting (Recommendation 22 – 63 per cent of countries rated either partially or non-compliant) and making sure the authorities can identify the real owners of corporations to avoid the abuse of anonymous shell companies (Recommendation 24 – 73 per cent of 30 countries rated partially or non-compliant). 

I still expect the guidelines to further reinforce a two-tiered system of compliant and non-compliant exchanges. Services like Coinbase and Gemini will no doubt be attempting to comply with them.
1131  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-21] FATF: "37 Global Crypto Exchanges Must Now Share Customer Data" on: June 23, 2019, 05:19:29 AM
If a lot of people don't want their transaction history to be recorded by the government, OTC trades would get more volumes then. Long DEX short CEX.

If only it were that simple. OTC brokers and P2P exchange operators will probably be affected by these laws.

The DEX of today are all centralized in some fashion -- servers, domain, etc. They will fall in line for the same reason IDEX mandated KYC and Binance DEX is IP-blocking traders by country. Truly peer-to-peer options are few and far between.
1132  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: CipherTrace CEO serves as Bitcoin Expert Witness in $1.4M Darkweb Case on: June 23, 2019, 02:44:04 AM
I am pretty sure AML companies like Ciphertrace are able to track the movement of funds even if they use mixing services. They do live demos of their tech so it would be interesting to see it happen in real time

Not all mixers are equal. Simple tumbling methods were broken a long time ago, yes. A researcher recently shared their work on de-anonymizing mixing services here on the forum. It's worth reading. The crux of it:

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I found some trivial bugs (timing attacks, leakages, xss, ...) through which nearly all relevant centralized bitcoin mixing services could be broken. Based on outgoing mixing transactions (transactions sent by the mixer) I was able to identify the correct incoming transactions sent by customers (vice versa).

Of note, however, is the fact that he was unable to use these methods to break Chipmixer, whose tumbling methods can't be broken by timing attacks. I'm curious whether Ciphertrace could.
1133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The need for anonymous blockchain projects and VASP on: June 22, 2019, 09:31:16 PM
DEX should be much more dark net oriented, much more distributed, like onion layer, with no central server functions, no name, no address, no clear net, no business. These DEX will become inherently illegal because they don't follow FATF rejection of 'identity associated non custodial wallet'.

The current generation of DEX are still highly trust-based and dependent on centralized infrastructure. Order books and atomic order matching use centralized servers. The centralized DNS is often integral. With platforms like Binance DEX and CryptoBridge, you are trading proxy assets while you trust someone else to hold your real assets.

What we need is truly decentralized ways of trading. We need much faster ways to relay order book and order matching information P2P. We need decentralized internet like P2P mesh networking, decentralized domain registration, atomic swaps that are usable for traders in real time. This won't happen overnight.
1134  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best Exchanges Question on: June 22, 2019, 09:17:21 PM
I am a bit of a newbie here and have seen a bit of information on the net regarding Coinbase and Bitstamp being great exchanges to use to purchase coins, but being as though they only offer much of the main cryptos coins, I am not able to purchase any of the alternative coins that are cheaper.

I wouldn't choose your investments based on what's "cheap" and what's "expensive." There is a huge graveyard of dead altcoins and tokens which were once "cheap" and are now simply worth nothing. Some altcoins will have larger % gains than Bitcoin; others will simply die. Keep that in mind when gambling on altcoins.

Plus, since I reside in the States, some of the other exchanges cannot do business with US residents. So, I wanted to know if anyone knew of any alternative REPUTABLE exchanges/brokers to go through that could provide service to US residents, as well as have the option for purchasing the less popular/cheaper coins?

Binance is still okay for US residents until September 12. Then they are officially kicking us out and launching a US platform. Presumably the US platform will lack access to many of the coins currently trading on Binance.
1135  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-21] FATF: "37 Global Crypto Exchanges Must Now Share Customer Data" on: June 22, 2019, 08:26:15 PM
In a week, these VASPs will be presenting their own responses to the FATF recommendations and briefing notes. So, let's wait to see what comes out of that.

Who, in particular? I know Kraken and some others were discussing the formation of some global parallel information sharing system for exchanges. I imagine they'll be iterating to the FATF how burdensome these rules are, and that it'll take many months or even years for exchanges to implement an effective and compliant system.

Over that period of time, hopefully decentralized trading solutions drastically improve. To me, the writing is on the wall. The Wild West days of centralized Bitcoin exchanges are coming to an end.

I agree wholeheartedly haha blacklists are very funny things. Read up about so-called OECD blacklists for money laundering and tax evasion and see how useful (or not) it's become.

I was under the impression that the FATF and OECD blacklists were pretty effective in forcing countries into compliance. Is that not the case?
1136  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-06-16] US Federal judge threatens to hold Craig Wright in criminal... on: June 22, 2019, 08:17:39 PM
It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a bench warrant to be issued. That would authorize the police to arrest him, but I'm guessing there's no chance of extradition.

Basically, Wright would need to avoid stepping foot in the United States.
1137  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WARNING! to all VLC player users! Stop using VLC and update it now!! on: June 22, 2019, 06:37:15 PM
one of the reasons for the slow spread of cryptocurrency is increased security measures. To keep the coins you have to be paranoid and check everything

Here's a couple options that can stave off that paranoia:

1) Keep your private keys offline. Electrum makes it very easy to sign transactions offline, so you can transact using a watching-only wallet on your online computer without compromising your private keys.

2) Security through isolation. Don't browse the internet, download torrents, open email attachments, etc. on the same machine where you hold private keys or log into exchange accounts. Have a PC that only uses a very limited number of "safe" applications and bookmarked websites.

Cold storage is the best option, but at the very least, you shouldn't be using Bitcoin alongside other reckless and insecure daily activities.
1138  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Taxes on crypto on: June 22, 2019, 06:23:32 PM
I noticed where cryptocurrency is legal higher taxes. in the gray zone as in my country there is no law yet but there is no tax

Are you sure there is no tax? I get the feeling some people are assuming taxes aren't due simply because there are no cryptocurrency-specific regulations in their country. However, in many countries, realizing capital gains on property sold is already covered by the tax code.

If you haven't researched the law or talked to a tax advisor, I wouldn't just assume you never need to pay taxes.
1139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Libra VS Bitcoin (2 Coins Enter 1 Coin Leaves????) on: June 21, 2019, 11:22:45 PM
Banks with no doubt will shill Libra with their most effective and expensive marketing. That's how I only see it.

Legacy banks want no part of it. Libra only threatens their market share for international remittances, as customers will move away from bank wires and towards the cheaper payments offered by Libra. Companies like Stripe and PayPal might be along for the ride, but legacy banks will probably be pushing their own competing products.

Included in the List of companies supporting Libra, are VISA & MASTERCARD

...which are not banks. Visa, Mastercard and similar payment processors will be happy to implement Libra into their POS products and take a cut from merchants like they do today.

Banks, on the other hand, only stand to lose if people start holding funds in Libra/Calibra instead of bank accounts because it's cheaper to remit internationally. Just like banks created Zelle to compete with Venmo, they'll create a new, cheaper and faster system to replace SWIFT and begin competing with products like Libra.
1140  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: this is what every country will do on: June 21, 2019, 11:09:04 PM
This AML regulation is common in a lot of countries and not just in cryptocurrency but also in fiat or local currencies. I happened to send $1000 to other country and I was asked for a passport or a driver’s licensed while when I was sending a lot of times below $1000 it was not asked and same with bank transactions so I think it is just proper for a country to impose this regulation if majority is doing it.

This is a lot more burdensome than you think, and could change the entire landscape we've been operating under for nearly a decade. $1,000 is the equivalent of 0.1 BTC at this moment.

These regulations extend to all businesses, so you could be forced to complete KYC and sender/receiver disclosures just to buy goods and services. If you want to do a little gambling, tumble your coins, swap between cryptocurrencies, the same could apply. The freedoms we currently enjoy could be massively undercut if these guidelines become widely enforced.
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