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2341  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Selling BTC vs Borrowing with BTC collateral in US on: May 14, 2018, 07:47:30 AM
I would like to put some additional details.

Let's say I bought 1 BTC at $8k, and I am selling it for $10k.
My profit is $2k.
I have the option to declare $2k profit and pay taxes, or use it as collateral for a loan.

You mentioned that you're in the US. Selling the BTC back to USD is a taxable capital gains event. Continuing to hold the BTC (in the case of lending) is not. However, the receipt of interest payments is taxable, generally at your ordinary tax rate.

So let's say I have to pay 35% taxes for the $2k profit.
If I can take a 1-year loan for 19% APR, it would be better to take a loan, correct?

You're comparing apples and oranges; they're both percentages but that's about all they have in common. You just made $2,000 profit but didn't realize it. If you continue holding BTC (and lending it out) and it drops below $8,000 you will incur losses. In that case, if your intention was to preserve USD capital, selling and paying the 35% would be much better.

A better way to think about this: If you're going to hold BTC regardless of price movements, are the (taxable) interest payments worth the counterparty risk of lending out the BTC? Presumably the interest receipts would be in BTC since that's the collateral -- so the goal is to gain more BTC. The temporary USD capital gains/losses are a totally separate issue because you can't hedge or realize the USD value while you're locked into a loan contract.

Also, that 35% is the rate on the net of all your trades in the year. You can keep reinvesting the profits from each trade into the next, so you don't need to think of it as a 35% tax on every single trade. So you should make an additional consideration: If you realize $2,000 profit now, you will have 25% more investment capital than you had before. You can keep compounding on that if you trade successfully -- which can earn much more money than interest payments on your principal.
2342  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-12] Millennials Are Buying Cryptocurrencies to Save For Retirement on: May 14, 2018, 07:09:06 AM
It's not surprising given the hype. Millennials invest heavily in pot stocks, too.

I'm a millenial and it's the best option compared to other companies that offers retirement investment.  I have seen a lot of them went bankrupt so I would definitely go with btc that I really own and not in somebody's control.

Which companies were those? The company that does our retirement/profit sharing plan is super conservative. Small but steady gains. They don't even allow us to put our personal 401ks into anything remotely risky. I need to quit my job before I can roll it into anything bitcoin-related. Undecided
2343  Other / Meta / Re: Crypto related stuff in non altcoins board on: May 13, 2018, 09:07:21 AM
Maybe we could have a Press board in the altcoin forum (though that seems unlikely).

I have noticed that mods have been heavy-handed at times in the Press section, so it depends what day you look. Sometimes there's a decent discussion going and a thread just gets deleted instead of being moved to Altcoin Discussion. I'm fine with the rule, I just wish they didn't insta-delete threads like that.
2344  Other / Meta / Re: Merit network analysis: merit rank distribution and satellites on: May 12, 2018, 06:13:21 PM
How are "mutual merit transactions" weighed in this model, such that they would appear as isolated satellites? For instance, Coin++ and CarlOrff appear completely isolated. But if you look at CarlOrff's merit summary, he has sent merit to/received merit from other people besides Coin++ (albeit less).

Deteriorating the sMerit of those who are refusing to send them would be a good way to increase merit distribution.

How? That will just decrease the available supply of sMerit. Unless you're talking about redistributing their sMerit to other people?

Personally, I give away most of my sMerit, but I always try to retain some in case I find a really noteworthy post. I've been receiving less and less merit, which means I've been spending less and less.
2345  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network on: May 12, 2018, 05:44:29 PM
They saw that "upgrading" the Bitcoin code, will be unsustainable in the future, so they figured out a way to take these transactions to another layer, where a infinite number of micro transactions can be done, without "clogging" or "bloating" the Blockchain and this solved the problem.

While I generally land in the "small blocker" camp on most issues, I'm not convinced that block size increases are unsustainable per se. I just think that 1) consensus change is harder than people think and 2) we should offload as much transaction volume as possible offchain (LN, drivechains, etc). The problem with big blockers is they believe there is only way to scale a network. Don't fall into that trap.

One of my gripes with Gavin Anderson and Mike Hearn and their mindset was that they assumed that improved future tech would easily address today's bandwidth and latency shortcomings. I don't think they were necessarily wrong about that, but I'm not willing to decide that on a leap of faith, or risk unnecessarily increasing orphaning rates and squeezing lots of nodes off the network.

I just want to see hard data suggesting a block size increase is safe from that perspective, and I want to see it done on reasonable timeline (like 1-2 years instead of a few months if we're talking about a hard fork or UASF).
2346  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [GUIDE] Main information about the most popular exchanges! on: May 11, 2018, 10:44:13 PM
Remember, this is Bitcointalk, not Altcointalk. The OP seems focused on altcoin exchanges.

Bitfinex and Binance are some of the highest volume BTC exchanges, but you should consider adding these influential and high-volume exchanges to your list:

  • GDAX (Coinbase)
  • bitFlyer
  • Bitstamp

You might consider adding KYC information for each exchange -- some require it, some do not.
2347  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network on: May 11, 2018, 10:32:29 PM
Again, Just raising the block size was a simple and elegant solution that could have avoided a contentious hard fork, while allowing thousands or tens of thousands of people to have access to their funds in a timely manner.

Simple in code perhaps, but not in terms of adoption and network compatibility.

Hard forks ought to be adopted on a timeline of years, not a few months, and that's assuming there is general social consensus to adopt the fork. Otherwise you risk mass confusion and financial loss: the network could split, the blockchain(s) could be repeatedly reorganized and -- perhaps most notably -- trust in the Bitcoin network to reliably reach consensus would be lost.

I'm not fundamentally opposed to hard forks and UASFs, but I am quite disappointed that people think they should be adopted on such compressed timelines. I think the rushed mindsets characterized by all the hard fork attempts and the BIP148 UASF are real affronts to the expansive and diverse nature of our network.
2348  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 'Put your money where your mouth is': Winklevoss Says to Bill Gates on: May 10, 2018, 10:55:31 PM
Not sure why the winklevoss twins are potentially goading somebody who could absolutely collapse the entire bitcoin network if he really wanted to. I mean, it's actually not that hard for billionaires, governments and certain corporations.

That was my first thought as well. It seemed like Tyler Winklevoss was just being provocative.

Then again, Gates actually said, "I would short it if there was an easy way to do it." That's a pretty dumb thing to say, given that regular retail traders can easily short CME futures on E-Trade, etc.

I'm guessing Bill doesn't want to short BTC for more sensible reasons...
2349  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-10] Bitcoin Developers Build Prototype for 'Dandelion' Privacy Tool on: May 10, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
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However, following the proposal's publication, Bitcoin Core developer Greg Maxwell pointed out that the tech may run into deanonymization over time, which means attackers will still be able to identify the origin by cross-checking transaction patterns.

Anyone have a link to his comments? All I could find on the mailing list was this post, which doesn't really lead to that conclusion.

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"Dandelion does not conflict with existing versions of Bitcoin. A Bitcoin node that supports Dandelion appears no differently to Bitcoin nodes running older software versions. Bitcoin nodes that support Dandelion can identify feature support through a probe message," the team wrote in an implementation document.

That's pretty exciting. I recall Dandelion is purportedly supposed to provide significantly improved privacy guarantees. The devil's in the details, though. We'll see how the new proposal holds up after Bitcoin devs are through poking holes in it.
2350  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: On Segwit not being backwards compatible question on: May 09, 2018, 07:45:30 AM
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segwit is not backward compatible
segwit tx's is set to be (ELI-5) invisible/ (ELI-15) not validatable by old consensus.
if you looked into it you will see terms such as what gmax named "upstream" filter nodes and LukJR calls "bridges" which is where if a old client just connects to the network and received the current block data the same way a segwit node does. it wont be understood.
a segwit node has to act as a translater and convert the chain of 2017+ into a different format specifically for the requesting node.

Franky is trying to bombard the reader with meaningless jargon to obfuscate what backward compatibility is. Let's look at what it means:
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Backward compatibility is a property of a system, product, or technology that allows for interoperability with an older legacy system, or with input designed for such a system, especially in telecommunications and computing.

It doesn't matter whether legacy nodes fully understand new scripts. What matters is that both versions retain interoperability (compatibility). Necessitating that every node validates every aspect of every transaction would entail hard forking and breaking compatibility every time you wanted to add a new consensus rule.

Regarding backward compatibility, what matters is that new rules don't break consensus. If Segwit compromised the integrity of Bitcoin (regarding supply, etc.) then its blocks would be rejected by legacy nodes. Older nodes still check newer blocks against their consensus rules. They are simply continuing to propagate valid transactions and blocks, even though they may not fully understand them.

All of this was laid out by Satoshi long ago. Bolding by me for emphasis:

The nature of Bitcoin is such that once version 0.1 was released, the core design was set in stone for the rest of its lifetime.  Because of that, I wanted to design it to support every possible transaction type I could think of.  The problem was, each thing required special support code and data fields whether it was used or not, and only covered one special case at a time.  It would have been an explosion of special cases.  The solution was script, which generalizes the problem so transacting parties can describe their transaction as a predicate that the node network evaluates.  The nodes only need to understand the transaction to the extent of evaluating whether the sender's conditions are met.

The script is actually a predicate.  It's just an equation that evaluates to true or false.  Predicate is a long and unfamiliar word so I called it script.

The receiver of a payment does a template match on the script.  Currently, receivers only accept two templates: direct payment and bitcoin address.  Future versions can add templates for more transaction types and nodes running that version or higher will be able to receive them.  All versions of nodes in the network can verify and process any new transactions into blocks, even though they may not know how to read them.

The design supports a tremendous variety of possible transaction types that I designed years ago.  Escrow transactions, bonded contracts, third party arbitration, multi-party signature, etc.  If Bitcoin catches on in a big way, these are things we'll want to explore in the future, but they all had to be designed at the beginning to make sure they would be possible later.

It should be noted that soft forks are not backwards compatible by definition, as many people wrongfully claim. As soft/hard forks are currently defined in Bitcoin development (side note -- not a fan of these definitions since they are orthogonal to network compatibility), a soft fork simply means adding/restricting consensus rules.

It's completely possible to incompatibly soft fork -- for example, if 51% of miners do not enforce the fork -- in which case a soft fork is not backwards compatible.

An incompatible soft fork and a hard fork are not particularly different, hence my distaste for the above definition.
2351  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin can help low income countries? on: May 09, 2018, 12:27:33 AM
How Bitcoin can be helpful in a social perspective?

If Bitcoin becomes a global reserve currency -- supplanting the USD in international settlements -- it could greatly improve the position of developing/exporting countries (the Global South). This is because USD monetary policy and the neoliberal international debt system are used to extract massive amounts of wealth from poor countries.

Consider the World Bank: It doesn’t lend money in domestic currency. It only lends USD, which is then used to buy US and European exports. This creates massive high-interest debts held by developing countries. So, eliminating USD hegemony would certainly level the playing field. It would end the implied incentive to purchase US exports over others and it would mitigate the debt bondage relationship.

And if Bitcoin or some other currency became a global reserve currency, it would also neuter the effect of US sanctions, which would help several poorer countries economically.

Any type of projects providing positive changes, in countries that needs the most?

The issues I laid out above concern global geopolitical and macroeconomic dynamics. No altcoin projects remotely address these issues, and anyone that claims they do are just scamming you.

The only solution is global market adoption of a decentralized currency (like BTC or something else) that can end US economic hegemony by displacing the USD as a reserve currency. It's not a matter of technology. It's a matter of adoption.
2352  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin is a bubble or not ? on: May 08, 2018, 11:45:25 PM
I read both opinions regarding that.
However one thing that I still wonder is that, if it is a Bubble, what is the problem with that?

A "bubble" implies a zero sum situation. In a bubble -- similar to a Ponzi scheme -- early entrants profit at the expense of late entrants. When the bubble collapses, late entrants lose their shirts.

Anyone who bought at $2 and sold at $15,000 profited greatly. Consider what will happen if the price returns to $2 now! Tongue

I mean, if you are looking to make money and you look at the prices frequently, the fact that they might be over evaluated some times, that could give you more profits, depending on when you bought right?

Sure, that applies to any investment instrument. But there is a difference between an overvalued asset and a bubble. An overvalued asset will usually revert to the mean based on its fundamental value. A bubble will just collapse to zero.

Based on history, Bitcoin is no bubble.
2353  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: How to calculate bitcoin network hash rate on: May 08, 2018, 11:33:21 PM
Bitcoin network's hash rate reaches 30E hash/s. How to get this value ?
https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate

Let's assume the latest block is mining for 10 minutes. Use the block's Nonce / 600s. that is 30E hash/s. Is it right ?
If it is right, that is only one client's hash rate. it is not the whole bitcoin network's hash capability.

It's impossible to know the exact network hash rate at any one time. But since we know the difficulty and the rate at which blocks are being mined, we can deduce an estimate.

Christian Decker provided a good response to this question a few years ago:

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The hashrate can be calculated from the expected rate of finding a block (144 a day), the actual rate of finding a block and the current difficulty.

So let's calculate the average hash_rate for a single day:

expected_blocks = 144
difficulty = 11187257.461361 # this is on May 22nd 2013
blocks_found = 155 # Also May 22nd 2013
hash_rate = (blocks_found/expected_blocks*difficulty * 2**32 / 600)

The reason we use a day to average out the hash_rate is that taken block by block the variance would be really high and we would not get anything meaningful.

According to WolframAlpha this gives us an averagge hash_rate for the 22nd May 2013 of 86.19 THashes/s. Numbers of course may vary depending on how you chose your interval, which appears to be the reason numbers don't match with the ones on Blockchain.info
2354  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help needed for Bachelor Research! - (Block sizes) on: May 07, 2018, 10:56:11 PM
But let's imagine that we built a blockchain based on the usage and the processing of images, videos and documents for digital forensic purposes; what would a suitable block size be for that, if we're looking at a consortium-type blockchain?

If I understand this correctly, then if the block size is too small (less than 1MB), it would cause an image (let's say 100MB in size) to split/fragment?  Or would the blockchain simply ignore any and all data of such great sizes?

It depends on the consensus rules of your network. Based on Bitcoin's rules, a transaction so large would be rejected by the network completely because it's too large to fit into a block. You would need to manually split the data into small enough transactions (<1MB each) and then pay the appropriate fees for each transaction.

If the block size is too big (let's say 1GB), would I need to fill it up with ten images of this size (100MB) before it's appended to the blockchain?

In Bitcoin (and virtually all blockchains), the block size (or block weight) limit is just an upper bound. Miners can publish empty or partially-empty blocks if there aren't sufficient transactions to make full blocks.
2355  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Does the lawsuit of Bitcoin.com affect Bitcoin prices? on: May 07, 2018, 10:51:58 PM
The lawsuit isn't even going to happen anyways.

MoneyTrigz and company had no intention of ever filing suit. He only involved himself because he's desperate for social media attention.

I don't believe it is affecting Bitcoin prices - and if it does, it won't be good for BTC.

Since it's a non-event, it doesn't affect the price. If the lawsuit were actually happening and the media piled onto the "Bitcoin.com vs. Bitcoin angle" then i could see it having a negative effect on the market.
2356  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which exchange allows to buy BTC with credit card ? on: May 06, 2018, 09:53:48 PM
Others have mentioned Coinbase, which is obviously the most common method. If you're not in a country supported by Coinbase or your credit card won't work there, you can try Bitstamp. They charge a flat 5% fee for credit cards.

I would avoid credit cards, though. Cash advance fees are pretty high. In comparison, ACH deposits to exchanges are usually free, and wires are cheaper.
2357  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2018-05-06] Bitcoin Adoption Continues: Parking Lots, Supplies Store, Courses, on: May 06, 2018, 09:28:47 PM
I've never heard of these services/companies. This author seems pretty desperate for content. Roll Eyes

I think the biggest wave of adoption will begin after the official release of Lightning Network, when all major clients will be stable - this will truly unlock Bitcoin as a currency, since confirmation times and fees are often a problem. Some people say that volatility is preventing Bitcoin from being adopted, but often times the advantages of using Bitcoin outweigh the risks of volatility.

I don't think the inability to do instant low-value payments is really hindering adoption anyway. I think 2013 and 2017 were just waves of adoption on a continuing exponential trend -- an S-curve, if you will. I think reliable decentralized money is reason enough for exponential adoption.
2358  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: BitCoin Futures on: May 03, 2018, 10:16:31 PM
That's why setting contracts is never going to be intelligent, too much scamming in there.
Ok, let's see. If I have correctly understood, you are talking about selling contracts instead of bitcoin (for, as long as I can read you are talking just about bitcoin)? What do you exactly mean by that? People buy and sell BTC, yet there are many exchangers in which you don't really own the bitcoin, is that what you meant?

Futures contracts are agreements to buy or sell at the contract expiration date. So, if you buy contracts at $9,000 and hold until expiration at $14,000 you will have profited by $5,000 times the number of contracts you held.

Both the CME and Cboe bitcoin futures are cash-settled contracts, so there is no BTC collateral involved whatsoever. People believe that for this reason, there will be manipulation. In reality, it's difficult to manipulate that way because the collective market can arbitrage the price spread by simultaneously longing futures and shorting spot (or vice versa).

I can't see exactly your point, due to the misuse of the concept of crypto, I believe. Why should I buy a contract instead of a bitcoin by myself? Because of the lower price? But isn't it just a crystal-clear scam?

They're only a scam insofar as all futures markets (or ETFs for that matter) are scams. These markets are intended to track the spot markets. For risk and compliance reasons, many investors/entities cannot or will not participate in BTC spot markets. Futures markets -- and potentially ETFs -- are an avenue for those people to get exposure to the market.
2359  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: a good portfolio tracker ?? on: May 02, 2018, 10:36:22 PM
Can someone recommend a good online portfolio tracker ?

I´m using Binance and I´d love to be able to track my gains in a simple way.

I do a lot of buying and selling and it´s hard to keep a full track of gains/losses for whatever currency I´m buying/selling.

I recommend Delta (smartphone or desktop app) for daily portfolio tracking. It tracks most exchanges and visually looks good. It summarizes current portfolio value in both $ and BTC, shows your individual positions and changes over the last 24 hours, and has a watching tab for coins of interest. They have a much better privacy policy than Blockfolio, which is the next best alternative.
2360  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why not every crypto is decentralized ? on: May 01, 2018, 11:54:55 PM
Why some cryptos, such as Ripple are called centralized ?

In some sense, the Ripple protocol is decentralized. That is, if Ripple (the company) disappeared today and took their validators offline, the network would still persist. However, as it stands, Ripple (the company) is essentially a central authority with significant control over the network.

I would consider it highly centralized. It depends on a trusted network of validators. As one commenter here points out:
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If it’s the same group of untrustworthy parties doing the validators, then Ripple becomes more centralized. Likewise, if those validators are separate, trustworthy parties, then it becomes less centralized.

Also, XRP is not mined. It was centrally issued by Ripple (the company) and the supply is highly concentrated under their control. I think they control more than half the supply. That's a big part of why people call it centralized.

If it's using the blockchain technology, as from I understand, it should all be decentralized, so no one is in charge, that's why i'ts safe. The community and the system works by itself.

In some protocols (like Ripple or masternode coins), not all nodes are created equally. If Ripple (the company) wanted to censor a bunch of transactions or fork the protocol to new rules, I'm sure they could.
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