I would still go with a 20% founder reward like what Zcash or Zcoin has compared to a full POS ico AND the founders holding another 10% of the coins released before the software is even released. This also gives an incentive in their own currency (and not USD or Bitcoin) to keep on working.

We can argue that the 20% is a bit too high, but still better compared to the rest of the schemes.

You can always buy coins on places like localbitcoins or similar and we are on the edge of decentralized exchanges becomming popular, thus it's not too early to invest into the best anon tech out there, like zcoin or zcash.

I don't see any technical limitation in going PoS with any of these coins. Honestly though, I feel that PoW > PoS in terms of public image and if you want a coin that has a long life (latecommers have an easier time to invest because continious influx of new coins). Technical wise I would go with a PoW/PoS hybrid.

But imho a long PoW like what Zcoin has is still superior to a fast pow > pos or just pos pump/dump scheme.

Zcoin (Zerocoin protocol) isn't using zkSnarks though. Zerocoin is also widely researched (from an academic perspective) since years and Zcash built the new Zerocrash protocol out of Zerocoin. Zerocash protocol is fairly new and can have some heavy vulnerabilities no one knows of.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerocoin

http://blog.zcoin.tech/zcoin-and-zcash/

Zcoin is the first working implementation of the Zerocoin protocol.

I would rather trust Zcoin's (working Zerocoin protocol) setup using the RSA 2048 factoring challenge, which has probably been deleted like 20 years ago. Also they will work on implementing a trustless setup with the Zerocoin protocol: https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/Roadmap

Besides this, both Zcoin and Zcash will be a good investment, but no one knows when whales will splash, both have a good upside potential. Investing into mining with cheap electricity might be the best option for now.

Certainly a good way 2 spend some of the founders reward, I'm actually all for darknet markets, certainly takes agression from the streets and solves problems in a cultivated manner.

Zcoin and Zcash should win the race in terms of transactional privacy. Zcoin uses the Zerocoin protocol (older more researched) while Zcash uses the Zerocash protocol (newer, more complex, but less research behind it, more risk).

You can always only go for 99% anonymity, but these project go as close to it as you can imho, while other projects have some or more protocol level weaknesses and will result in tainted coins on exchanges if used for some form of illegal activity.

Difference between the 2: http://blog.zcoin.tech/zcoin-and-zcash/

So, I actually stumbled upon Zcoin (XZC)  a few weeks ago. It is the first working implementation of the Zerocoin protocol, which has been talked about a lot in several academic journals regarding cryptography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerocoin).

I was pretty hyped for the Zcash launch and noticed that Zcoin was launched prior to Zcash (few weeks), first I thought it simply wants to ride out the Zcash hype, but after reading some posts about it and checking a direct comparison (http://blog.zcoin.tech/zcoin-and-zcash/) I found this project to be the biggest competitor to Zcash in terms of privacy tech that there is.

It's obvious that one can never trully achieve complete anonymity (something close to 99% is enough), but these 2 projects come way closer to the acceptable range than project that use some form of mixing, coinjoin, ringsigs, decentralized coinjoin, supernodes etc.

I was a pretty early investor and miner in DASH, XC, VCASH and bought enough XMR before the darknet pump and I'm amazed how undervalued and underhyped this project actually is (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcoin/). It has a long POW, founder reward (20% like Zcash, but bounties for dev contributions), a perfect privacy feature and is mineable by anyone with a cpu. They will also do the first working implementation of the MTP (Merkle-tree based) PoW, which will heavily favour home cpu miners (memory heavy cpu mining).

If you want privacy you can either jump on Zcash (https://z.cash/) or Zcoin (https://zcoin.tech/) currently, but Zcash seems way 2 corporate atm.

Any input is welcome, no trolling tho.

I would ask the people here to spread awareness and retweet CryptoHolics or my tweet of this interview:

https://twitter.com/cryptoholics/status/797941526215020544

https://twitter.com/_hightek/status/798079927727833088

Solves restart problems for pool ops, pools will be more reliable until the algo change to MTP.

It did actually go up to 315k before going back down.  So nothing he said was untrue.

You are still a lowlife though with 2 much free time.

AWS started banning users that used bought credits, slack is full with people complaining so that's good for investors now. Also the new algo will be cpu friendly, but might prevent botnets: "We believe MTP is the way to prevent botnets from mining while allowing normal legitimate CPUs to perform proof of work."

Source: https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/wiki/Roadmap

Zcash did more than a year development time, launched with flawed anonimity and no wallets or a video. Is it a scam? No.

Is this a scam? No.

This is the very first implementation of a working ZeroCoin protocol, nothing more and nothing less currently. Damn son, you must be a true detective to deliver such a solid proof for a scam accusation.

ANN copied from Slack:


Issues on Lyra2 algo for pool operators are noted and MTP is being worked on.  There is a planned adjustment to the existing Lyra algo as a temporary measure to keep pools running so that it doesn't keep increasing with block height.

[2:11] 
Poloniex, we are getting some help on that but nothing promised so far. Will keep you guys updated when I get more info.

[2:15] 
We are aware also of the FUD being spread over obvious untruths such as Zcoin being a Zcash fork. We can educate, but only those who open their eyes, will see. Thanks to those who defended us with the facts.

[2:16] 
Informational video script is being worked on and we hope to have a decent explanatory video for newcomers.

[2:18] 
Any questions on these please refer them to #chat thank you!

Kind of sad how another new member of this community (you) can not differentiate between trolling and valuable discussion. I adressed every single recent comment of his and gave an answer to it, he wasn't criticizing, he was simply being a troll. Read it back and read his comment history afterwards.

There are certain points, which need to be worked on in this project. Marketing is on the low side and so is the "pace of progress", but this doesn't mean that the developments are running slow, it is simply slow in crypto terms, because the avg investor here has an attention span of a goldfish.

The trolls points on top of my head:

1) Polo won't add zcoin, Polo only goes for volume coins

Incorrect, see last 20 adds, you will find tons of coins which had similar avg volume to XZC (or lower). I also knew a polo wallet admin and they didn't go for volume coins simply because they had volume.

2) No reason to add XZC to Poloniex

Zcoin has currently one of the highest level of anonimity a crypto project can offer, up there with Zcash and higher than Monero.

3) Zcash has more lines of codes submitted to github than Zcoin

And? Quantity over Quality anyday. Zcash is also a way more funded project than Zcoin currently, with a bigger team. Zcash also had it's anonimity feature flawed at start, which needed fixing. It's the SINGLE FEATURE the project has. So more lines submitted (aka bugfixing) means it's a superior project?

4) Algo is flawed, coin will die in 30 days.

A brand new algo is being implemented, no other coin has it, seems superior to other sollutions. Meanwhile a fix is being worked on as we speek. Poramin wen't to see a university professor to talk about MTP and it's possible implementation. Anyone can see this if they join Slack. Progress can not be measured by purely watching github.

I responded in more detail to his trollish comments, but please let me know if I forgot to summarize correctly for you, since you seem to have the brain size of a chipmunk since you feel that he is being talked down for no reason and he isn't trolling with his comment history.

Suprnova has all the hash, who is mining on your so called private pool? You with a gameboy?

Also ocminer (suprnova pool op) was already contacted with an offer on help (fix). It was stated on slack.

Anything else you can bullshit over? You really should know when to stop, I responded to every comment you made and instead of trying to challenge it you just hop on another "issue", which got answered aswell. Feel like you are doing the textbook trolling 101, again I would ask anyone reading this to look up his comment history. Not everyone will believe your trolling, specially when it's not backed up with anything.

You have literally no clue what Poloniex checks, unlike you I have actually known an ex Polo wallet admin for a long enough time and it's really not that simple as "needs volume". So many coins have been added without constant EVEN MEDIOCRE volume.

I like how you keep spamming bullshit comments while acting knowledged.

Edit: Looking back at your comment history now it's pretty clear what your aim is here. Hope no one takes you seriously though.

Quantity doesn't equal quality, coding can't be measured by lines written. A more bugged software needs more coding to fix.

Unreal how much garbage comes from your mouth.

This probably needed a few lines of code aswell: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/zcash-bug-prevents-private-transactions-soon-after-launch/

And the constant stuck payments on ZEC Pools aswell I guess.

Wonder why you are avoiding to answer comments that point out flaws in your logic you tool.

How much do they pay you for shitposting?

Polo has added several coins in the past, which didn't stand out because they had high volume. Stop spreading misinformation as if you were knowledgable. Volume doesn't hurt, but it's not the deciding factor according to past additions.