You can win too Occulta, I don't mind.
Ok, that was funny and good sportsmanship. +1 |
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You can't take a joke.  |
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You sell shares in your CPU mining farm.
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LOL,
OK. Lets try the freemarket give away.
Pick me in your 'random' drawing and you only have to give me $250
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Well, amidst all the productive and interesting debate, we woman have reached a consensus concerning a split from GGBTC. I am so excited to launch our new subreddit, and it is my absolute pleasure to present to you le Chateau deCryptoThank you Tuxavant for your inspiration and all your hard work. I hope that even though we have decided to take our new project in a different direction, that you can continue showing your support for us ladies taking the helm on female bitcoin adoption. Thank you everyone for all the support! Look forward to seeing all of you in the Chateau  xoxo What did ya say? I was distracted by the avatar, again. Hey, maybe a contest for the best and worst avatar. I will donate 1 BTC towards that endeavor if someone wishes to set one up... I nominate: Ladybytes for best, and RandyFolds for worst. |
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This is essentially my entire argument. No one cares where the cards came from. Occulta didnt want the competition so he forced a competitor out of the market by lying. Bitcoin is suppose to be the essence of a free market. This was anything but. Essentially you had a monopoly that didn't like the competition so he used his reputation to smear the new seller and force him out. Yea, 'Free Market'. Did you expect everyone to 'play nice'. I don't know about the other guy so can't speculate. However, YOU have a choice in this free market. If you honestly believe that, then go use the 'other guy'. Give him your business. And then in the end, maybe everyone WILL play nice. But I do understand what you are saying, but you are aware of it. So your intent, is to put 'Your' belief into others. Making you no worse or better than occulta. The 'Exception' here is if you have proof over speculation. |
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And I find it suspicious that you would take 1000$ earned in USD (that could be directly deposited into your bank account +$1000) and turn this into +800$.
Try and find a whole in that argument.
Found it.  The $1000 doesn't come from him. It comes from Amazon and rather than buy amazon products, he wants to buy a Slushy at the 7/11. |
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I am not saying anyone will have problems with his cards.I purchased a $500 one a month or so back and have had zero issues. Here is my problem:
A new seller enters the market and offers cards at 20% off face value(which is exactly where Occulta started). A current seller who just happens to sell the same product at a lesser discount immediately claims the new person is scamming. What does he provide as evidence? Nothing, his entire argument rests on the premise that selling at such a discount is irrational. No one, not even the mighty occulta, knows the financial and social factors at play with this new seller. What appears to most as irrational could in fact be 100% rational and legitimate.
My main question to Occulta is why is his 20% so irrational when you started at this discount and now sell at 10%? There is 0 proof that newdude is scamming. There have been ZERO issues with newdudes cards, in fact there have been ZERO issues with Occultas cards. Why is there some lynch mob after newdude? It appears Occulta is just anti free market and hates the competition so he is throwing out accusations that are unfounded and frankly just lies.
If you are going to jump on the "carding" train, lets see who is really lying about how they get their amazon gift cards.
1) Amazon pays in lump sums once a month. Occulta conservatively sells 30-40 cards a month. So each card MUST be from a separate website.
2) In order to become an amazon affiliate and receive money from them you must provide your TAX ID #. So every dollar that Occulta is getting is being reported from amazon as paid to him. This means that it is being taxed the normal federal and state taxes. Then he comes on here and sells for an additional 10% off. He is essentially raising his tax rate on his alleged affiliate income by 10%, you want to talk about irrational behavior? If he wanted bitcoins he could take the direct deposit(which is offered on ALL amazon affiliate payments) and go through dwolla and mtgox which would save him more than 9%.
To me the person who is actually "carding" is rather obvious.
There have been ZERO issues with newdudes cards, in fact there have been ZERO issues with Occultas cards. Why is there some lynch mob after newdude? Kids from different play grounds often don't get along. OR Obviously they don't like competition. As far as the 'legitimacy' questions, Why not look into how McDonald's gets to sell at a discount? Cause you don't care but accept the discount. If there is a 'plausible' legitimate way for it to be done, it isn't the buyers responsibility to verify the validity of how or why. That is left up to other people who's job it is. Now, if he were selling for 50% to 80% off, then you might have a point. But even then, it could be getting rid of inventory before going out of business. Again, it's not the buyers job to determine motives. But if 'What Ifs' are what you are looking for, then the list is a mile long. What if: it is a program like the ATF selling guns (LOL), and he/they will be horribly embarrassed when it turns out to back fire on them. What If: ∞ So in the end, It comes down to, is it a good and reasonable deal on the face of it? If you like it, buy it. If you don't, don't. |
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I find this funny and sad. You're willing to offer a collateralized instrument on an investment and offer a very reasonable rate of return. The nay sayers are dubious but they will have no questions about investing in a 30% or more per month program with no guarantees at all.
Hold your ground. Maybe post on ogrr.com forum also with a cross link. Something tells me someone from the EU will be interested if not the U.S.
(watching)
30%+ programs for BTC loans (say $1K tops) ... I am NOT investing $75,000 USD Ok, we are getting somewhere. It isn't the offering; it is the Amount that deters you. Understood. |
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It seems that people are worried because I'm willing to pay a high interest rate to borrow this money. The reason I'm willing to pay this high of a rate is because the funds that will be used will generate close to a 45% return for me on a worst case scenario with a possibility of it generating a 67% on the best case scenario. Also from my research this seems to be the going rate for this type of loan.
I find this funny and sad. You're willing to offer a collateralized instrument on an investment and offer a very reasonable rate of return. The nay sayers are dubious but they will have no questions about investing in a 30% or more per month program with no guarantees at all. Hold your ground. Maybe post on ogrr.com forum also with a cross link. Something tells me someone from the EU will be interested if not the U.S. (watching) |
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Also, Net 60? Not sure what you mean by that. Net 60 is a term used for applying short term credit (usually Purchase Orders) over a period of time. Businesses don't pay short term credit like people. They can pre-arrange a PO system where they order goods and services from other businesses based ont Net 60, Net 30, and many other arrangements. Net 60 however seems to be the most common. |
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I strongly disagree with these subreddits being used to pimp a private site.
This is NOT REPEAT NOT what reddit is intended for.
Reddit lets you create ads that are shown only to certain subreddits... else buy some adspace, google adwords, whatever, but do not ride for free on the community.
I hereby disassociate myself from all bitcoingonewild/xgonebitcoin subreddits.
Please remove me from the list of mods.
I have often found that people that stand on principles change when they are standing on a pile of money. The good news is this process works in reverse. |
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hmmm.... Am I the last? Lets add a little more motive. The second to last person Wins 0.5 BTC.  |
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I've been hearing a lot about shakaru lately on these forums. The threads I mostly see these days tend to be about owed debts or this thread for instance.I'm clueless about what happened to shakaru.Can some1 get me up to date?
Once upon a time...There was a Nigerian Prince named the Barron. The Barron was in search of his coin... Hey, the Barron == Shakaru ? |
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How did i miss this thread?
Hey, I remember you. I traded free coins with you ages ago. How has it been? At times like these, we need a BitCoin bar. |
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First to get Dominoes to accept, wins.  |
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I'd prefer it if the Uncle Vinny suggestions were left off the thread, though. I know people are joking, but
This was a joke? If not, the moderators don't take kindly to exhortations to violence on the forums. Omigod! If we cannot call out to the satirical spirit of our pretend Uncle Vinny to handle issues when we (as a community, not "we" as in trying to include myself in this group of rightfully pissed off creditors...) when we have gone and given many thousands of dollars worth of value to a cheat, and PRETEND that we might have somebody actually threaten to break somebody's limbs over that debt, then I fear, dear friends, that this bus has taken a very, very wrong turn into Politically Correct Land. If the Moderators ever have reason to not take kindly to any of my exhortations, those advocating fantasy Cosa Nostra violence, encouraging euthanasia of the intellectually challenged, stout caning of scammers, and supporting ferret cage match death sport... well, the Moderators know how to contact me and correct me. I suspect those self-same Moderati understand that my next thrust of the tongue-in-cheek rapier will be visited upon them. This thing that Shakuru has done sucks hugely. That goes without saying. Some of the hyperbole surrounding it is over the top, but not unjustified. I merely rise to the occasion to cast a little light on the proposed class action suit as resolution concept. It ain't gonna work. 'Nuff said. You thrust your knowledge of the vernacular around like a champ. Do you offer lessons?  |
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Would blacklisting 1.0.0.1...126.255.255.254 work?
I'll sell it for 0.2 btc.
Seriously, why are you selling this? Give it to the community to help.
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