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661  Other / Off-topic / Re: Whats the best movie ever watched when stoned... on: April 01, 2012, 12:41:24 AM
Not a movie...    Teletubbies    I would assume.
662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: use blockchain for proof in court? on: March 31, 2012, 11:25:41 PM
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Why it's there, who's benefit it is I don't discuss. Would the link between the file and it's fingerprint in blockchain stand?

Forgoing the former as that is back to intent and purpose, the latter can be done within a mathematical certainty if the chain is verified as being correct. (The actual current chain in use and not an alt or forked chain) Even without timestamps, the blocks occur approximately every 10 min on average so one could give an approximate time frame with only the time of the first block being confirmed.


btw: Files have been encoded into the blockchain. But with time, no encoding would be necessary as the data will be there. One could just write a program to pick out the data necessary to create a file.  Simple example: Rather than encode 'Hello World', just find an ascii equivalent in the chain and point the reader to those addresses to decode. Hence, someone else unintentionally encoded the message, the reader just picks the right address to produce the desired message/file. Granted this is easier for simple messages and very difficult for harder messages or images but possible.

IMO


663  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [NSFW] Girls of Reddit's r/GoneWild on: March 31, 2012, 10:53:21 PM
I can print a special version of the https://pimpcoin.com deposit card with your logo and color scheme.  The back end process would be identical.


This is a great idea. Just wish it had another name. Not all will get the humor.
664  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: use blockchain for proof in court? on: March 31, 2012, 10:51:09 PM
@BTC_bear very interesting questions, thought provoking. I'd start with a claim that private keys are secrets and that TX1 and TX2 could only be initiated by a person(s) with knowledge of the keys to sign ... and here are the keys.


Thanx.

 Just pointing out that private keys in no way ties it to a single entity or person even. A person's computer might have been compromised, or even by intent more than one person might have a copy of the private keys. I know of one business entity that does this. In fact, the QT Client does this.

Supposedly there are 3 persons with the ability to send a message to the client. (Gavin, Theymos, and Satoshi) Who sent the recent message to the clients about the security update?
 

I posted private keys in semi-public forum to challenge users to grab a bitcoin and then refilled the address to see how fast they notice and grab it again. I have even no idea how many wallets have now that key. but that was intended and I would not use that key to exercise any kind of serious TX (like writing to blockchain for future use in court should be)

the above example of a collective knowledge (especially the keys from bitcoin message function), I assume the key has been changed so Satoshi no longer knows it, unless Gavin and Theymos are married to each other, they should be able to testify against each other. If the key is the same since project inception, then it might be a problem if both deny writing that message and Satoshi would not show up in court.

I have multiple pgp keys and I share some of them willingly and proactively (cyber last will, trusted friends hold copies to settle my affairs in case of brain damage or death) but I still consider them as personal and do all I can to keep them safe and secret. some of the keys have even my name in them : )



Then I think we agree that it is a bad idea to try to use it in court. As one can foresee the Prosecution telling the Jury only the defendant could send the money/msg. Then 'someone' else uses a copy of the wallet/private key to send money/msg and destroy the prosecution's case.


665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: use blockchain for proof in court? on: March 31, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
@BTC_bear very interesting questions, thought provoking. I'd start with a claim that private keys are secrets and that TX1 and TX2 could only be initiated by a person(s) with knowledge of the keys to sign ... and here are the keys.


Thanx.

 Just pointing out that private keys in no way ties it to a single entity or person even. A person's computer might have been compromised, or even by intent more than one person might have a copy of the private keys. I know of one business entity that does this. In fact, the QT Client does this.

Supposedly there are 3 persons with the ability to send a message to the client. (Gavin, Theymos, and Satoshi) Who sent the recent message to the clients about the security update?
 
666  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How do people have 20 mining rigs setup in 1 room without blowing a fuse? on: March 31, 2012, 10:02:15 PM
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Why would the break even analysis be different for mining than anything else?

Well the traditional cost benefit is the cost of the GPU, Mobo, etc... and the cost of kWh.

The cost of a kWh from Solar will have to be judged from the Cost of the Solar Panels and electronics required to provide the power necessary to run a mining Rig/Farm. How long will that Farm have to run until it pays for the Solar Panels and Electronics required?

But yes, a kWh is a kWh.

667  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crash!!!! on: March 31, 2012, 09:49:48 PM
Tomorrow is going to be a huge day... up or down.


half price fees.

Just a guess. But is the BitCoin economy based on traditional currencies or BTC?

If it is BTC, then people will buy BTC for slightly cheaper BitCoins.

If it is USD/EUR/etc... they will sell BTC for greater profits.

Or a combination of both and stay the same.

Let us see which way it goes.

668  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: use blockchain for proof in court? on: March 31, 2012, 09:45:54 PM
It's evidence of Transactions occurring between addresses. Period.

To explain the intent or purpose of those transactions is a different story.

Can it be done, sure. But if LE is at that stage in investigating, they don't need the blockchain. It will just be another aspect of proof.

Think of how hard that is. Even if you prove that TX1 went to TX2, WHO sent TX1 and WHO received it and for what purpose. And now this gets even more complicated because the route from TX1 to TX2 may have thousands of transmissions between them.

Then you have the encrypted transfer of wallet.dat files containing an amount of BTC which would bypass miners and fees. I.E. There will be 21 Million BTC. Now imagine 21 Million Wallet.dat files being transferred to others bypassing miners all together. And the method of transfer doesn't even need to be electronic.

Not to mention that if it becomes accepted, people could send BTC to someone to implicate them in something that they had nothing to do with. Or cause them headaches.

For Example: PP customers send PP's CEO a $1 with a note: Thanks for the BitCoins   The PP CEO would be wrongly assumed to have violated his own companies policies. (But that wouldn't be fair or correct)

However there is a good point here:

The qt client allows the viewing of Transmissions and Receipts whether the wallet.dat is encrypted or not. This, IMO, is a privacy and security flaw. Anyone with access to the program could view your personal financial transactions.

To me this is akin to allowing everyone to see your online banking account details but they aren't allowed to transfer anything. If and until this is fixed, I would suggest for any serious and private TX to use the program from an encrypted disk and/or folder.

I'm sure I'm wrong about something, correct if necessary.
669  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How do people have 20 mining rigs setup in 1 room without blowing a fuse? on: March 31, 2012, 09:03:38 PM
I would really like to see the Break Even Analysis on 33 Panels and mining.

How long until the break even point?

Anything over 5 years is a no go for anything.

670  Economy / Speculation / Re: Crash!!!! on: March 31, 2012, 08:44:17 PM
Is this a Dump and Sump?

as opposed to a Pump and Dump.
671  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Poll] Will you shut down your miner/miners for Earth Hour 2012? on: March 31, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
This is like UN Resolutions. It won't work and for the same reasons.

e.g.

 UN Resolution § 42.01.10 BTC Mining Carbon Footprint Reduction

 All miners shut down for the day.


Really says: Lets have people shut down so we can make more money and have an advantage.

Now this is usually done indirectly through ideology. Or sheep being sheep being guided without knowing they are being guided.

Not that I am against the philosophy, but 9 Billion people will not get fed by solar power.

However, rather than give some an advantage by telling people to shut down for a while, why not give a Bounty for a solar powered rig that reaches say: 1 GH/s.

I will put 1 BTC towards that bounty if someone wishes to start it. 

See it is a market driven subsidy from the whole and isn't forced through taxes.
672  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Turn off your rig - Earth Hour, March 31st 2012 20.30-21.30 (your local time) on: March 31, 2012, 04:53:02 PM
Earth Hour on Saturday, March 31st 2012
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As many of you might be aware that the world is celebrating  Earth Hour on Saturday, March 31st 2012... On this day over 2 billion people from all around
the world will switch off lights at their homes and work places for one hour ie 8:30 PM -9:30 PM Local Time to show their support for the cause of Climate
change.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Astronomy_Activities_2009/message/7361




Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.


673  Economy / Services / Re: Shades Minoco / Shakaru / Collections / Debt on: March 31, 2012, 01:29:17 AM
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If you every need anything, I owe you. Just feel free to ask.


This tells me a lot about how much learning you have to do.


Good Luck,
Shakaru
674  Economy / Services / Re: Shades Minoco / Shakaru / Collections / Debt on: March 30, 2012, 11:44:11 PM
Andrew

You have owed me 10 btc for awhile and I did not want to start any more trouble for you than you already have by reporting this because I know you have a lot to deal with right now and even though I realize you lied to me its ok - I forgive you man and I hope you are able to get back on your feet. I am sorry you are so over your head, that little 10 BTC you owe me, forget about it the debt with me is cleared take it as some free good karma to turn around and do the right thing - pay it forward and get yourself out of this situation.

good luck

-Tom







Good Man.

Shame you didn't have BTC address, I would send BTC to you.
675  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's called a correction (waveaddict's bitcoin charting subscription thread) on: March 30, 2012, 10:19:09 PM
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It's always a bad idea to guess what could happen with indicators.


Good Advice.
676  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: March 30, 2012, 02:06:03 AM

Oh no you don't. Put up the Avatar.  Grrrrrr.

Can I now, please?  Kiss


Not up to me. But if you edit your reddit.com/r/bitcoin comment and add "Please let me out of here". It might help a mod be sure it is actually you.

677  Economy / Lending / Re: Why you might want to sell Credit Default Swaps on: March 29, 2012, 11:26:56 PM
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In most cases I refer to any investment where the  probable outcome is unknown, or not knowable, as gambling.


Huh, I would have thought the opposite.

If I gamble(bet) on an event, I know the exact payout(ROI). i.e. Roulette 22 Black pays 35 to 1 give or take.

When investing, the payout might be expected but by no means predictable. The ROI is not determined until you are no longer invested.
678  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: March 29, 2012, 09:58:15 PM
Hi, I'm LadyBytes, and I need to get in touch with the bitcoin community asap!
Here's the backstory: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/rim7t/hey_rbitcoin_got_coins_enjoy_the_female_form/

As you can see, I need to get the word out quickly that my bitcoin url has been compromised, and that **no one** should send any further tips to my old wallet address.


Oh no you don't. Put up the Avatar.  Grrrrrr.
679  Economy / Lending / Re: Why you might want to sell Credit Default Swaps on: March 29, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

To save a couple of seconds for anyone stumbling across this thread, the link to the CDS offer referred to by OP:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74552.0

And, just in case anyone isn't aware, security-based swaps are an activity that is regulated in certain jurisdictions, such as in the U.S.:
 - http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/dodd-frank/derivatives.shtml



Finally. So BTC are Securities.

So no taxes until they are converted.
680  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Great Wall of March 26 on: March 28, 2012, 08:32:12 AM
I have been waiting for the Bitcoin to drop before getting in, looks like I have no choice but to start buying at around $5 Sad


Considering the price is $4.7 - 4.8 currently. $5 might be a tad to late. But, I don't get this speculation thing. I'm probably missing something.
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