i find quite hard to believe that private investors accepted this terms and didn't flip the table and walked out of the deal.
Is there any particula reason why they accepted these terms?
It's easy actually to decipher why they did not flip. There's no one out there who's into AI and ROBOTICS of this magnitude than we are.  If you look at it from a long time investment perspective, they're not shortchanged either. They stand to rip massive earnings if Kepler project becomes a massive success. That is why they want to ride the wagon before anyone else their size could hop in. Thats great actually, but why they want to buy it higher than ICO price ? is there any good reason for that? |
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what will happen to the unsold tokens if there will be any?
i dont know, i hope they will be bunrned or back to the investors? I have seen some projects giving away free unsold tokens to the investors but I feel it's wrong because they already have a stash of coins. Unsold tokens should always be burnt so that the present token value will be increased. Depends on how many tokens you have sold, if you sell 10% of the tokens I don't think that that's always a good idea to burn them, you'll have liquidity's problems In my opinion , about the liquidity, it can be solved by being listed on a good exchange which can give it a decent volume. |
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I like the project. If I had to give any criticism, it would be the tokens for downloading the app part of the plan. It just makes a giant list of people that will not actually use the platform. I think it creates a messy start to a social media app. Look at alphabet social platform for example. It's a spam fest and I already have more followers there than I do on twitter. Without even trying because they offer tokens for every friend you confirm.
Tokens for joining I think are still ok, it's pretty much the same as bounty campaigns. Despite the fact that some people won't use it, it still spreads the word. Giving tokens for confirming friends is however a little too much. It's some sort of referrals bounty? For a start is ok I guess and you're right, some people won't use it but you rather register into a platform with 250,000 users or on a platform with 1,000 users ? You get tokens for downloading the app so abusers will use their different google accounts to download the app without actually using it. I think there should be some special / right requirements to prevent it, so it will be not really for all people. |
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Dear Kepler Community!
We are Happy to tell you that community building FIRST round has ended with HUGE success!!!
Unofficial tally
164 189 Kepler tokens sold
157 + ETH
$136,000 +
We will post new video tomorrow with the reports.
Thank you for your huge support!
That's good news, I'm very happy. But you promised to post a video of the report. When will it be available for viewing? Yes - we'd like to see a video as well as the 'official' tally. A good thing the community building phase ended with success a video will really be nice What about the georgia free tour winner? will it be announced here / publicly? |
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What is the token price now?
Presale price $0.05 per 1 SAT Ico price $0.14 per 1 SAT Very big difference. What is the percantage of the tokens will sell on presale? And also are there any locking period for buyers on presale? That's indeed a massive difference between presale and ICO. Is there also a tiered structure during the ICO or is it all $0.14? How do you calculate $0.05? According to https://sphere.social/de/presale/ there's different prices. maybe with the 60% or 70% Bonus fpr Big Investors Hopefully there are no people just buy a high amount with 70% bionus to sell it fast. Normally the project try to avoid this. That would require the team to agree on vesting periods with large scale strategic investors. Not sure if that happened or not, but if it didn't that could lead to massive sell pressure. Whales effect can be avoided if run the limit of token sale in one hand. Sphere already has a large audience - I think so after listing SAT token will keep stable price. BTW they very well chose this token name SAT will be at everyone's ears! Whales aren't necessarily a bad thing if they believe in the technology and make strategic long term investments. It would even help smaller investors who are not able to bring up so much money to actually benefit from better financing long term. The thing is just that some whales are not in for strategic reasons, but grab a large presale discount and then dump for an immediate 40-50% gain. That's why those vesting periods are good to have. A good solution would be to lock the big bonusses for 6months to 1year. By then the price would be stable and a dump wouldn't have such impact anymore compared to the beginning. But i think its too late to do that after the pre-sale is complete, its not fair at all. What will you feel if youre on the pre-sale investors side? Aren't pre-sale usually big investors like VC who believe in the project (long term? ) I think anyone can invest in presale, as long as they can afford the minimum investment. But sometime presale and private sale are different. |
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What is the token price now?
Presale price $0.05 per 1 SAT Ico price $0.14 per 1 SAT Very big difference. What is the percantage of the tokens will sell on presale? And also are there any locking period for buyers on presale? That's indeed a massive difference between presale and ICO. Is there also a tiered structure during the ICO or is it all $0.14? How do you calculate $0.05? According to https://sphere.social/de/presale/ there's different prices. maybe with the 60% or 70% Bonus fpr Big Investors Hopefully there are no people just buy a high amount with 70% bionus to sell it fast. Normally the project try to avoid this. That would require the team to agree on vesting periods with large scale strategic investors. Not sure if that happened or not, but if it didn't that could lead to massive sell pressure. Whales effect can be avoided if run the limit of token sale in one hand. Sphere already has a large audience - I think so after listing SAT token will keep stable price. BTW they very well chose this token name SAT will be at everyone's ears! Whales aren't necessarily a bad thing if they believe in the technology and make strategic long term investments. It would even help smaller investors who are not able to bring up so much money to actually benefit from better financing long term. The thing is just that some whales are not in for strategic reasons, but grab a large presale discount and then dump for an immediate 40-50% gain. That's why those vesting periods are good to have. A good solution would be to lock the big bonusses for 6months to 1year. By then the price would be stable and a dump wouldn't have such impact anymore compared to the beginning. But i think its too late to do that after the pre-sale is complete, its not fair at all. What will you feel if youre on the pre-sale investors side? |
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164,189 tokens out of 1,500,000 with a 70% bonus seems not a great result to me, but if you're happy who am I to discuss it?
1,500,000 tokens are not all for Phase 1, Phase 2 and 3 have much bigger token pools. But we set a modest target for Phase 1 and we smashed it. The good thing is, we haven't even started the PR Campaign Good job on smashing targets:) i have some questions, What's your phase 2 target? when will you start the PR campaign? and how many investors invested in phase 1? I think it will be around February 15th, and there are already 947 investors. You can check it here https://www.keplertek.org/dashboard , but you need to register first. 947 investors.. not bad for such a short time. Any public info on the numbers? What do you mean with the public info? |
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164,189 tokens out of 1,500,000 with a 70% bonus seems not a great result to me, but if you're happy who am I to discuss it?
1,500,000 tokens are not all for Phase 1, Phase 2 and 3 have much bigger token pools. But we set a modest target for Phase 1 and we smashed it. The good thing is, we haven't even started the PR Campaign Good job on smashing targets:) i have some questions, What's your phase 2 target? when will you start the PR campaign? and how many investors invested in phase 1? I think it will be around February 15th, and there are already 947 investors. You can check it here https://www.keplertek.org/dashboard , but you need to register first. |
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great to hear that the the minimum soft cap was achieved. So i hope Sphere raised more in the next weeks and can start with full commitment to the development of the platform.
Great news, i think sphere has a great potential. Think about it, a working product which has members(i recall like above 200000) a reached soft cap and more weeks to raise some money. Above of this thread somebody mentioned, like facebook's first day and we have a share of it, that 's very true. Great to hear that people are that optimistic about the project. The most important thing indeed is that they can get as many active users as possible. Looks like facebook will have a competitor in the near future. I think that in the near future it will be difficult to compete with facebook and tweet, but in the future Sphere can eclipse them! I think that it is difficult to move such giants as Facebook. They already have too much audience. It is easier for them to integrate their crypto-currency into the social network. I agree that it is difficult but ant the end thex earn money with our information or to provide advertising. A lot of people waiting for a solution which follows the topics data privacy and decentralization. Sphere got a lot of potential. They also need to provide a unique feature, or maybe get an exclusive partnership with a popular project. |
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With the decline of Facebook, now is a great time for another social media platform to take it's place. Facebook is beginning to feel old and stale and no matter what, in the future a social media platform will need to be made on the blockchain for security and efficiency. Sphere can make it work, though of course a lot of hard work will need to be put in.
i hope this will be the next big thing. you're right on facebook being in decline though. original content has been dropping on the platform lately. I think facebook is very popular with its facebook ads now, because many online businessman are talking about facebook ads for their business. It no longer only depends on its social media contents. |
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now you get 50% Bonus right now if i am right the next 4-5 hours! And tomorrow 25% Bonus?
so today is 25%? Thats wrong, here is the correct one. COMMUNITY BUILDING STAGE (1,500,000 KEP Tokens Total) PHASE 1 February 6, 2018 = 50% Bonus PHASE 2 February 13, 2018 = 45% Bonus PHASE 3 February 20, 2018 = 40% Bonus Today and the next 48 hours will still be under Phase 1 of Community Building Stage, so all investors in this phase will get 50% bonus including that 48 hr. extension. |
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a Demo Video with your robots would be also a great idea. We have some products other than robots and we will do some videos of that too. Just stay tuned we will post it here and in telegram. Thats very interesting, i will be waiting for that. I hope i will see it soon, and of course it will bring more confidence to the investors. |
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how large is the bonus here for early investors?
70% bonus if you invest $128,000 USD You can register on their site to see the bonuses structure. 70% bonus? Its too much. Big whales will buy a lot of tokens and will have a biggest bonus. I think they must reduce bonus. up to 20-30% is ok. Right . 50% used to be high. Now it's 70% that's alot yeah, I'm afraid that the wales will end up buying most tokens and leave regular users with crumbs. I prefer whales. They know how to earn money at least. If everybody is small investors they have very weak hands. A bad news and price crashed. Yeah, and actually its all fair, they can profit a lot and also lose a lot. They just put a higher risk than the small investors. |
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now you get 50% Bonus right now if i am right the next 4-5 hours! And tomorrow 25% Bonus?
No youre wrong, tomorrow isnt 25% bonus. Here is the correct one, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2839512.msg29562924#msg29562924COMMUNITY BUILDING STAGE (1,500,000 KEP Tokens Total) PHASE 1 February 6, 2018 = 50% Bonus PHASE 2 February 13, 2018 = 45% Bonus PHASE 3 February 20, 2018 = 40% Bonus |
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how large is the bonus here for early investors?
70% bonus if you invest $128,000 USD You can register on their site to see the bonuses structure. |
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i think at the moment almost all social networks are similar at the platform level, facebook is a bit above only for the vast number of registered users, i think sphere will be successful if they can offer a large amount of services and options and mobile apps lighter and faster than competitors
The most important things which determine whether the new social platform succeed or not are: 1. Its interface (friendly or not) 2. Its ability to spread out as more users as possible 3. Its applications in daily life (Sphere can do that, at least in crypto-ecosystem). In my opinion, the point 2 is the most important thing in this niche. |
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I think too thatthe cap they want to reach is really huge. I think’ It will not be so simple, even if they have private investors. But let’s see what Kepler can do.
They will do an aggresive marketing , lets wait till it happens. I hope they will get a maximum result. |
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The distribution of tokens Will be after the token sale?
The Token distribution will happen from 15 th Feb, you will receive your KEP tokens on the adress you contributed. Forwarded from the telegram group: https://t.me/KeplerTechnologies |
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Icomarks? Never heard of them. I only check two ico listing websites. One of them are icobench the other one is icodrops. https://icobench.com/ico/kepler-technologiesIcobench gave 4.7 out of 5 And icodrops didn't list kepler yet. For me, so far so good. The team and the product got 5 scores, thats a pretty good achievement. |
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how much money are going to be used for the buyback?
that you described is the best case scenario but then in reality there can be problems along the way.
What i would like to hear as an investors is that you can solve problems it may arise.
Part of the profits of Kepler Tech will be used to buyback some tokens in PERIODIC bases. So, it will not just be a one time deal. It will be continuous year after year. That buyback alone is enough to pump the value of KEP Token. How much would money be used to buyback those tokens? It will be big but i just don't have the exact figure right now. I dont think there can be a direct corelation between buy back and pump. I think it will give investors some sort of Insurance that there will Always be buy pressure It's actually a simple supply and demand principle at play there. You put a massive buy order in the exchanges that have KEP token what do you think will happen to the price of KEP Token after that? If the sell wall got eaten alive usually the price goes up, that's what will happen. Yeah, but it's temporary, it's basically a pump. As investor I'd hope your team gives major attention to the quality of your products, so the price stays up naturally, without any speculative tools. The good thing is, we are committed to create quality products that people will love and at the same time we have set some procedures to maximize the potential profits of our investors, and one of those procedures is buying back some tokens in the market PERIODICALLY. We are simply hitting two birds in one stone here. Its really nice to know that there will be a very strong support on this token, the token price wont be certainly pumped but it wont fall. And the rest will depend on the quality of the token. |
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