Trading is a zero-sum game and you need to be smarter and more self-controlled than the aggregate of the rest of the participants. I believe once you count the exchange fees, trading is actually a negative-sum game. It's only zero-sum if you consider the exchanges a "player" in the game. I don't. I consider them a house taking their rake. You are correct. He is not correct, because if you want to count everything you have to count the people using the exchanges not for day trading, but just as exchanges, which is another flow (in and out) of money. |
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MtGox está goxeando otra vez. 120+ segundos de lag.
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They will fix it soon.
Otherwise will be the tor team fixing this DDoS exploit on their network.
This affects tor network big time.
How exactly would the TOR team do that? Because the attack is on TOR itself not Silk Road specifically. The attack is happening because of a weakness of the Tor protocol, the attacker can do this type of attack to any TOR hidden and Im sure its a safe bet its something they want to resolve. |
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Silk Road es el canario en la mina de Bitcoin. Si sobrevive demuestra que Bitcoin puede hacer todo lo que creemos que puede hacer. Y a la vez es tan provocador que inevitablemente sufrirá todo tipo de ataques. De hecho la idea inicial de DPR me pareció genial: "No queremos descubrir que Bitcoin tiene un fallo o se puede hackear dentro de unos años cuando tenga millones de usuarios. No queremos perder el tiempo. Así que vamos a hacer algo tan provocador para hackers y gobiernos que no tengan más remedio que atacarlo cuanto antes." Si sobrevive a los ataques BTC se hará más fuerte y ganamos todos. Si no sobrevive, aprenderemos de los errores y haremos Bitcoin 2.0 todavía mejor y también ganamos todos. Pero mejor ahora, que BTC todavía está en fase Beta, que dentro de un par de años con millones de usuarios y cientos de empresas dependiendo del sistema. En este caso particular el problema que Silk Road ha encontrado está en Tor, no en Bitcoin. Aunque nunca está de más citar a DPR, es un personaje impresionante. |
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Ok, gracias. La verdad es que al ver que no podía postear he estado mirando la Ayuda y no he encontrado nada al respecto, por eso he posteado esta pregunta chorra, sorry dserrano5!
Y ahora me he quedado con la curiosidad: Dónde se encuentra esta información del Límite de 5 Replys y 4 horas antes de poder postear en cualquier parte?
Gracias.
En la sección de newbies, donde además puedes postear hasta que tengas acceso al resto del foro. |
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Más bien es la incertidumbre alrededor de la continuidad de Silk Road que ha provocado que algunos estén vendiendo bitcoins. Fijate que la bajada no se ha producido hasta que Silk Road no ha abierto de nuevo, permitiendo a sus ususarios sacar los bitcoins.
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The site is back up now, no telling how long. I think over 50% have faith in DPR and will not try to mass sell. At least I hope for the sake of bitcoin. No telling how long this uptime will last once the jackasses return. Let's hope they did some good engineering and things will remain up a while.
Any idea how the timing coincided with the recent downspike to $127? Its obvious that a lot of Silkroaders (or however they want to be called) are cashing out at least part of their bitcoins as they are able to access the site. A lot of the sellers are not "Bitcoin believers" like most of the early adopters, but just drug sellers that are using Bitcoin because its useful (which is fine), so they tend to preffer holding fiat more than bitcoins, specially now that there is uncertainty. As more people access SR and have access to the funds more selling presure will appear. I think they will regret it long term and in a few years they wish they had kept their bitcoins, but you can not fault them for wanting something they are more familiar with and cashing out if they are not really into Bitcoin as a monetary system changer but just as a useful method to sell drugs. |
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MtQuid that looks terrific. Hopefully prof7bit can include that or something similar in the source.
Another solution might be being able to select what goes into the debug at runtime, so one could select to only have in the debug file the messages from the modules s/he wants. Im fine with any of both solutions.
EDIT: MtQuid tried your code and its working perfectly. Im sending you a small tip.
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EDIT: Also, can anyone give me a hint on how to create a separate debug file for my bot? The regular debug goxtool file gets too big and its very cumbersome to check.
To reduce debug clutter for writing strategies I use a crafty tail. I did have a cut on the end but it lagged tail -f goxtool.log| grep -E 'Strat|Trace|^[^0-9]'
Yeah, thats an option, but I still would preffer to have a different file so I can check it from time to time. And how are the results?.
I just loaded the chart along with current data from bitcoin charts and they are pretty similar. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.json?m=mtgoxUSD&r=1&i=15-minI don't know what weighted moving average function they are using but the data is close enough for my use though I probably should check it out on a few more days before I invest the yacht  If you use this data you will need to alter the timestamp for HighStock.js add on 000 (three zeros) EDIT: I haven't checked for the 1 hour EMAs but will do some more testing and experimenting later. Using the TA-Lib you can specify the timeperiod and then ignore those first timeperiod output values as the results settle down. I've used the default values from bitcoincharts. Simple at 10 and Weighted at 25. Thanks for the direction, I will try using ta-lib between today and tomorrow, hopefully it gives better results that my manually created one (which its not difficult...). |
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Qué manden foto :D (es broma) Si, si... "broma". |
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I only wanted the graph output to make sure the ta-lib functions were returning the correct values so I could use them to control my bot. And how are the results?. I manually created a ema function, basically following the formula you see everywhere in the Internet (f.e. http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:moving_averages) but Im getting results quite different from bitcoincharts.com, specially for the hourly ema's but almost identical for the 1minute ema's. Because of this my guess was: the formula calculates the sma with the first periods and then starts adding the data as a exponential. I assumed this means that over time with enough data it would converge and that is why the 1minute ema's were almost identical while the hourly ema's were not, since Im getting data of two days and there is only 48 hours while there is 48 * 60 minutes. Does ta-lib get better results with data from one day only? I don't think this functionality needs to be part of the main goxtool branch but a good strategy plugin using ta-lib would be handy. Like providing values and firing signals that can be caught. I actually would love to have the the web part in goxtool, maybe just as a plugin or something. EDIT: Also, can anyone give me a hint on how to create a separate debug file for my bot? The regular debug goxtool file gets too big and its very cumbersome to check. |
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Yes but i dont really care. We can always change government. Dont forget about this too. And i hope they wont forget about this also. People are real power and nobody ever won with people.
U r lucky one. Most of ppl unable to change their government. I said WE not me. And i understand that people THINK they cant change anything. But its false statement. I hope you are not refering to voting, because then we are all doomed. |
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Pues bien: ¿en qué beneficia esa carrera a bitcoin? ¿acaso es más seguro con más potencia de cálculo? ¿Para qué gastar tanta energía y recursos tontamente? Sí, cuanta más potencia de calculo, más segura es la red Bitcoin. No se están gastando recursos y energía tontamente. Primero, las ASICS no consumen más que las FPGA's or las GPU's, son más eficientes. Y segundo, si la gente está dispuesta a pagar por el servicio significa que son recursos bien empleados. La minería son recursos destinados a mantener la red Bitcoin segura y ese es un servicio que mucha gente aprecia. |
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425Anyone read this article yet? I wish I was more well versed in finance/global economics so I could fully appreciate this scope of this, but even with my limited understanding this seems so unbelievably crazy. How have we not developed any ways to transparently and accurately report these all-important metrics? Blows my mind. Also: I have heard that Matt Taibbi can be somewhat biased in his reporting, if anyone has more neutral sources please post!! The problem with Matt Taibbi is not that he is biased (he is), the problem is that he has no idea about finance and very little understanding of economics. He just puts shit together to sound sensationalist, but most of the times he is just plain wrong, not even wrong because of bias, just wrong because of lack of knowledge. But since he writes well and in general people dont have understanding of finance neither, people eat it. There's been alot of comments on other threads for this article like this, but not one of them has ever made any attempt to point out exactly what he was wrong about. Sorry I like to read about economics and finance, I dont lose my time with sensationalism. Youll have to find someone else to read the article and point to you why Matt Taibbi is just sensationalism. |
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Excuse if this is offtopic, but I want my goxtool bot to notify my Android phone, and even sound an alarm (in case Im sleeping) when certain conditions are met. Whats the best way of achieving this? I know how to program for Android (but would be happy if I can avoid having to create my own program just for this) and own Tasker. One option seems to use Google Cloud Messaging, anyone has any other suggestion?
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425Anyone read this article yet? I wish I was more well versed in finance/global economics so I could fully appreciate this scope of this, but even with my limited understanding this seems so unbelievably crazy. How have we not developed any ways to transparently and accurately report these all-important metrics? Blows my mind. Also: I have heard that Matt Taibbi can be somewhat biased in his reporting, if anyone has more neutral sources please post!! The problem with Matt Taibbi is not that he is biased (he is), the problem is that he has no idea about finance and very little understanding of economics. He just puts shit together to sound sensationalist, but most of the times he is just plain wrong, not even wrong because of bias, just wrong because of lack of knowledge. But since he writes well and in general people dont have understanding of finance neither, people eat it. |
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Acaba de arrancar, es que hay que reabrirla de vez en cuando?
Prueba a usar goxgui. ClackMoody casca rápido cuando mtgox se pone tonto. Sospecho que la culpa es de mtgox y no de clarckmoddy, porque la página funciona bien cuando mtgox no está cargado. |
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Lo estoy viendo en directo, y es alucinante, parece un viernes en la hora bruja, han vendido varias decenas de miles, supongo que compraran abajo, o bajaran mas aun, cualquiera sabe.
Ha subido a 137 de golpe y ha vuelto a bajar a 123... Puto mtgox, que solucionen el lag ya. |
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MtGox va con 1 minuto de retraso ya. MtGox no será la causa de la caida, pero con el retraso facilmente está provocando más pánico y más caida. El precio está bien que baje, pero lo de MtGox lo tienen que solucionar ya porque no es aceptable.
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The code that handles that error is ~953: def reload(self):
"""reload and re-initialize the strategy module"""
self.unload()
for name in self.strategy_name_list:
name = name.replace(".py", "").strip()
try:
strategy_module = __import__(name)
try:
reload(strategy_module)
strategy_object = strategy_module.Strategy(self.gox)
self.strategy_object_list.append(strategy_object)
# pylint: disable=W0703
except Exception:
self.gox.debug(traceback.format_exc())
except ImportError:
self.gox.debug("### could not import %s.py" % name)
I would change that log message to output more information if I were you... by the looks of it I would guess (not being a python person at all) that your class name doesn't match your file name. Thanks, that helped. I had an typo in one of my import statements so the module refused to load. prof7bit, it would be better if the log signaled the particular error otherwise you are in the dark making it hard to debug. Basically this change: except ImportError as e:
self.gox.debug("### could not import %s.py, reason: %s" % (name,e))
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