"I have unwittingly ruined my country." - W. Wilson, upon passage of Federal Reserve Act, 1913 There is no proof that Wilson said this quote. It has been referenced in the Internet and in some "less than exact" documentaries, but there is absolutely no reference that he actually said it. Everything indicates that the quote is false. It would be a nice quote, but apparently he did not say it. |
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en general, no se deben usar los forks de bitcoin, porque nada te garantiza que el creador del fork no se haya agenciado con una buena cantidad de sus propias monedas antes de lanzar dicho fork.
no obstante, no voy a decirte como debes usar tu hardware, decide tu mismo.
Lo que comentas es exactamente por lo que han creado este fork, porque Satoshi ya tenia 580mil BTC cuando lo lanzo para los demas. Los i0coins empezaron hace 2 dias y nadie habia minado antes. Ademas de lgunos cambios mas en el codigo y la posibilidaad de encriptar las billeteras. En el foro en ingles hay mucha info al respecto. Pero al parecer los "fuertes" del BTC quieren tirar abajo cualquier alternativa, por buena que sea. Esto es falso, solo habían 6 bloques encontrados (300 bitcoins) cuando Satoshi hizo publico el proyecto Bitcoin. Puedes comprobarlo en la blockchain. |
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I missed the beginning of bitcoin. I suggest a groundhogcoin so I can get in on it from the beginning. Then every day it starts over so everyone gets a chance to get in on it from the beginning.
In this case you need to go to spam the Offtopic section. |
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7 hours now.
Are we trying to break a record again or a script went rogue again?
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In the year 2040 the world government moves to impose a monopolly of its own issued currency and bans the Bitcoin network. Soon the Bitcoin resistance is born. Thousends of free and courageous citizens around the world hide their mining rigs in abandoned basements and installations, far away from the reach of the money censors.  I could not resist... |
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With progress in genetics within the next few decades we will already be seeing increasing differences between the poor and the rich. The rich will be stronger, more intelligent and will live longer.
I dont think nature is so easily controllable, pretense of knowledge and delusions of control comes to mind. Some of this people spending a lot of money on genetic augmenations are going to be up for a big surprise. |
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How does the backup pool works? Does it try to connect back to the main pool? How long does it take and can it be configurable?
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It wouldn't be good for Bitcoin because Ron Paul would "fix" the dollar, so no reason for people to adopt Bitcoin to escape the dollar inflation. :->
How would he "fix" the dollar? His number one plan is to crash it as soon as he gets into office. He dosen't BELIEVE in the current system that we have now, therefore he does not believe there is a way to "fix" it other than by scraping it all and implementing some sort of Deflationary Standard like gold (or Bitcoin). Bitcoin would be a seriously destructive way to start from scratch, but hey at-least we'll all be millionaires right?  Actually he has a non-disrubtive way of changing the monetary system and that is just removing the privileges the Federal Reserve receive from the government and allow competition of currencies. That way the change would be progressive. |
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It wouldn't be good for Bitcoin because Ron Paul would "fix" the dollar, so no reason for people to adopt Bitcoin to escape the dollar inflation. :-> You have a point there. But it really depends. If Ron Paul only manages to change a bit the direction and put some control on the dollar but without changing the monetary laws, then yes, it would be bad for Bitcoin. BUT Ron Paul has proposed laws and has stated several times that his intention is not trying to influence the central bank system (he thinks its unworkable), but to eliminate legal tender laws and allow competition in currency. If he managed to acomplish this it would be HUGE for Bitcoin. |
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At one time Republicans stood for protecting personal freedoms, oh well...
That's what gets me the most. Look at Michelle Bachmann, Tea Party Head in Congress. How can you be for smaller Gov't, a limited Gov't and then support The Patriot Act? Of course this Bill with the whole protect the kids meme will get votes because nobody in D.C. will want to be seen as being against protecting the children. Thankfully some big business is against this so they will put their money were their mouth is and tone the bill down or get it sent back. Come on, saying that the republicans are for small government is like saying democrats care for the people. Since when a republican president has decreased the size of government? Ronald Reagan, "the last republican hero", raised taxes, created the department of education, increased the debt, etc... Republicans are a joke. |
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The currency fork that provides an encrypted wallet by default is ALWAYS going to be better than one that doesn't. Additionally, the next biggest currency could probably use Unbalanced Oil and Vinegar cryptography for the public and private keys to thwart Shor's algorithm being used on a quantum computer. Put simply, if the core Bitcoin team has stopped innovating, then competing currencies are the solution. It's been over 6 months since Bitcoin breached $1 per, there is simply no excuse for not having an encrypted wallet unless the developers are being bought off or just lazy to the detriment to the rest of the community. 1. The developers are volunteers. Nobody is paying them. If they dont contribute they are not being lazy, they are just doing whatever they need to do. If you want you can take their place and contribute to the community. 2. Encrypted wallet is already in the git branch and will be in the next release. |
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#1. Don't bombard Freenode IRC
#2. Dont spam the forums. |
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AyeYo you are an asshole. You are the perfect example why this forum has been derailed. Its impossible to have an honest debate with assholes like you around.
How do progressives like this one pass as loving and caring human beings?
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For instance, having the government fund all college education would undoubtedly give the lower classes more freedom and opportunity, but all a libertarian will see is his taxes going up. This is false. Government education hursts the lower classes, since its always lower quality and the taxes stop them from being able to look for better options, while the rich can afford those better options. This way society gets more divided and the poor have less oportunities of improving themselves. Government education is just another way that socialdemocracy has to hurt the poor and mantain the status quo. We consider them ignorant of history because several hundred years of capitalism have shown us over and over and over ad nauseum that when businesses aren't regulated, they WILL try to get away with every horrible thing they can, up to and including murder, at the expense of their workers, the environment, or anything else that stands in the way of higher profits. We only started to see this behavior mitigated a bit (though certainly not eliminated) once we started imposing regulations. To point to regulation itself as the problem would seem to demonstrate a tremendous gap in one's historical knowledge, not to mention a poor understanding of cause and effect. To say that the problems we're barely holding back even with our patchwork of regulations would go away if we just eliminated the regulations seems mind-bogglingly stupid no matter how you look at it. To imagine an entity whose sole reason for existing is profit will form some shred of morality if only he was free of pesky safety regulations is hopelessly naive. I highly doubt you have really been exposed to libertarianism, otherwise you would know this makes no sense. This is not what libertarians say. Libertarianism does not say that without regulations businessman will all become angels that care for their fellow citizens. What libertarianism say is that competition and self-organization by the citizens and workers do a much better job at avoiding abuses than the government and its burocrats. In fact, its quite obvious for anyone that can look to the present situation without being blinded by ideology that regulations is a way for business to avoid competition. Regulations benefit big business and hurt consumers. And history proves the same. I find ironic that you mention that historic evidence prove that we need regulations when it proves the opposite. Yeah, what you'll find if you actually talk to them is that a whole lot of them went through a libertarian phase in high school years and years ago and are now embarrassed that they ever could have believed that stuff. Mine happened in about 1995, so a little bit before 2008, I'd say.
And I think I've been responding with logic and reason about these issues quite frequently around here. If you feel otherwise, feel free to point it out when it happens. Sorry, but I dont believe that you were a libertarian because you clearly dont understand libertarianism. |
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It sounds like you have had some unfortunate experiences with libertarians online. Too bad I can't invite you to meet me and my libertarian friends for beer at the pub. You would probably enjoy yourself and might change your opinion, even slightly, of libertarians. Its not that. To understand the attitude towards libertarianism of some autoritarian left-wingers you just have to read their blogs and news sites. Since libertarianism started growing after the 2008 crisis, they have been on a crusade to attack libertarianism with the most absurd arguments. Since all this people are emotionally attached to those sites and have no previous experience with libertarianism, they believe them and adopt the same agresive and intolerant attitude. Its not about reason and understanding, its about attacking the "enemy". They adopt that emotion. Thats why you see this knee jee reaction towards libertarianism of some sectors with the most absurd arguments. And its also why logic and reason does not work on them. They keep bringing absurd arguments and changing subject constantly because its not about understanding something, its about attacking the enemy. Even if they dont really understand why. Its a pure emotional reaction they got from the sites they visit. |
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Actually, it was bitcoin2cash. Not that it really matters or anything.
Also, and this is probably going to sound insulting, but I think part of the reason for what you're talking about is that most people with a well-rounded education in politics and history consider libertarianism to be an unworkable mess that would be infinitely worse for America than anything the Republicans or Democrats can dream up, so they think anyone who seriously believes in it is either really young and naive or, well, kinda slow. At least when it comes to social issues. I know a lot of them are really good at engineering and computer science and whatnot. And how do you convince a slow person of something? Use simplistic examples to counter their simplistic and not-very-well-thought-out ideology.
Somebody in another thread called libertarianism Political Aspbergers, since it never seems to consider the social elements of anything and is really a pretty self-centered ideology - or at least that's how its adherents sure present it. But I think that phrase actually makes a lot of sense, especially when so many of the people who believe it are those with the technical/mathematically-inclined brains that are generally the types who suffer from real Aspbergers.
This is just you rationalizing why you are not a libertarian. I was a social-democrat until 27 raised by social-democrat parents, and when I discover libertarianism I saw that it makes much more sense than any other ideology. Anyone saying what you pointed above really has not read anything about libertarianism. |
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Its only "logical" since they already spy the phone calls... Here in Europe they are trying to pass very similar laws. Its very sad. |
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Can you explain to us how you get to this judgements? When Im in a situation how can I know if me or someone else is being greedy? Whats the rule?
Didn't your mother ever tell you "stop being greedy and share with the other kids"? You will know when you are being greedy. It's just something you will know and sense. And don't don't tell me you don't understand. Isnt this the base of authoritarism? What I feel is right, is right, and violence is justified to impose it on others. |
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Make your points and I will try to take them all seriously. Choose any topic on economics, the one you feel more confident, and open I will open a new thread. This shouldn't be a problem. We'll just let you choose the language. Dutch? French? Catalan and spanish. |
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I propose a debate about economics to FlipPro (and anyone else). You and me only, no "OMG LOL You are diluded WTF", speaking like adults, replying honestly to what the other person is saying, not cheapshots, etc...
If you accept well open a new thread and will debate.
I will debate you on all political matters and common sense social issues, but not via text. I will only do it if we can go head to head live via video with a fair moderator. I'm serious. edit: And yes Jeffk is a troll, even though he has valid points at times, it's important that we not forget who he is. I do admire the fact that he has kept his name even though everyone knows that he is from the SA forum, and here to just bug the hell out of people. Either way maybe he's changed but regardless he doesn't seem to like dealing with nonsense the same way I do. The problem with this is that I am not american and english is not my first language. I would have problems debating you live in english. Why not do it in text? Whats the problem? You seem to have no problem writing here. Ill let you choose the topic in economics you want to debate about. |
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