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It will probably make new investors come in. But in crypto you never know.
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Currently I am closely watchin: - Elastos
- Power Ledger
- VeChain
- BAT Token
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So, round 2  x22i preview 2Download for Windowslinks to Linux/HiveOS removed, seems there is a problem with finding shares on Linux. Working on this problemDownload kernel for Hawaiinew comparison with zjazz 1.2. Competitor is still faster on higher core clock's, so it's up to you what to choose all cards are with modified bios with timings for cryptonight(from 1500 strap)
Sapphire PULSE RX580 1100/2000
zjazz 1.2: ~2850
wildrig 0.12.2: ~2930
Gigabyte RX570 1100/2000
zjazz 1.2: ~2580
wildrig 0.12.2: ~2720
MSI RX460 1210/1900 (intensity lowered to 18 in both cases)
zjazz 1.2: ~1200
wildrig 0.12.2: ~1260
Great work. X22i seems to be hot so try to improve it if you can Also don't forget to fix the HiveOS build. HiveOS is really great. |
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They took too much time to do that, although is a nice thing they did but i'm afraid is too late, the damage is already done and to recover from that, will be years.
How is it a nice thing. They simply said everybody to f*** off so their ASICs can work at all. Just a money move nothing else. They centralize the network under their control. I don't get it how this is a good think. They are hypocrits, the biggest possible. But who cares about Siacoin anyway. Its a shitcoin. |
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Comming from the guys who were all PRO asics. I could not care less. For me projects like that don't exist. It was an interesting read for about the first 6-7 paragraphs, just to see what their thought process was, but it quickly devolved into a shitload of fluff that tried to put lipstick on a pig. A few of my favorite quotes: "In parallel and in secret, two larger manufacturers also began development of ASICs for Sia. The first one, Bitmain, did not announce their product until 10 days before shipping, effectively disrupting a multi-million dollar project from the community without warning and nearly causing a civil war." "And indeed, Innosilicon is Sia’s largest miner, mining a stable 37.5% of the Sia hashrate." (meaning 62.5% of the hashrate is coming from other companies!) "For the Sia network, an important line was crossed when secret ASIC projects superseded a public project that had substantial community investment. Though the Obelisk project got a few things wrong, largely Obelisk went about ASIC development and manufacturing in the right way." "Sia is forking today to reprimand the current ASIC monopoly for the damage it did to the Sia community, to make whole the supporters of Sia’s community ASIC project, and to send a clear message to all future Sia ASIC manufacturers: we will not tolerate an abusive ASIC monopoly." "In the short term, this is a step backwards for Sia’s security. The hashrate will decrease substantially, which means our security margin against an attacker will be lower. In the long term, this sets the stage for a healthy mining community and a higher overall difficulty. We fully expect that the 28nm Obelisk ASICs will be replaced by a 16nm chip from another manufacturer, who will become the new manufacturing monopoly for Sia." Yes good catch. There is so much crap in that article, basically apologetic nonsense to give their PRO asic views some legitimate background. Oh well. thier own greed killed them ,didn’t they make enough from thier premine and large holdings? They shoud never have got into the hardware business. Now thier anti asic drivel comes off as a poor joke that being said bricking shitmain and innotrashilicon asics is always a good thing i hope it happens Agreed, thats the good thing. |
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Comming from the guys who were all PRO asics. I could not care less. For me projects like that don't exist. It was an interesting read for about the first 6-7 paragraphs, just to see what their thought process was, but it quickly devolved into a shitload of fluff that tried to put lipstick on a pig. A few of my favorite quotes: "In parallel and in secret, two larger manufacturers also began development of ASICs for Sia. The first one, Bitmain, did not announce their product until 10 days before shipping, effectively disrupting a multi-million dollar project from the community without warning and nearly causing a civil war." "And indeed, Innosilicon is Sia’s largest miner, mining a stable 37.5% of the Sia hashrate." (meaning 62.5% of the hashrate is coming from other companies!) "For the Sia network, an important line was crossed when secret ASIC projects superseded a public project that had substantial community investment. Though the Obelisk project got a few things wrong, largely Obelisk went about ASIC development and manufacturing in the right way." "Sia is forking today to reprimand the current ASIC monopoly for the damage it did to the Sia community, to make whole the supporters of Sia’s community ASIC project, and to send a clear message to all future Sia ASIC manufacturers: we will not tolerate an abusive ASIC monopoly." "In the short term, this is a step backwards for Sia’s security. The hashrate will decrease substantially, which means our security margin against an attacker will be lower. In the long term, this sets the stage for a healthy mining community and a higher overall difficulty. We fully expect that the 28nm Obelisk ASICs will be replaced by a 16nm chip from another manufacturer, who will become the new manufacturing monopoly for Sia." Yes good catch. There is so much crap in that article, basically apologetic nonsense to give their PRO asic views some legitimate background. Oh well. |
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Also their product is one of the worst ever I have tried. At least it was few months back. Horrible user experience.
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Comming from the guys who were all PRO asics. I could not care less. For me projects like that don't exist. Basically they are douchebags going where the wind blows. It will be interesting to see all the ASICs and their companies slowly burning Also that: The core developers ultimately decided against forking. We don’t view blockchains as a democracy, we view them as a source of stability. We like decentralization because it prevents groups outside of our control from making decisions that we don’t like. Decentralization is valuable because there is nobody in control, and we weren’t comfortable releasing an update that threatened to rip the community in half.
Is a really weird statement for a crypto project. |
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Hi ! AMD brothers need X22i algo as fast as possible !
Thanks.
I already talked to him. He will look into it after HEX and LBK3 are released. |
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And I was wondering what killed Lyra2z profitability lately...
tdxminer was available for few months at least, it used to be very profitable to mine it with GPUs, but the algo is now ridden with FPGAs. He meant a release for Windows. Noobies could not use it while it was Linux only But profitability was destroyed a while ago and I doubt it was FPGA, although they are on the networks. But they were on a long time ago. The market killed it and slow adoption by the users. |
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Stop talking nonsense. HiveOS and Lyra2z work perfect, I have it running for days without any issues with rellay low power usage and temp.
You must be doing it wrong. Btw aren't you the guy who claims to make mining SW? Ahem.
I run 580 and 470 cards with 900 mv only. Core 1167 and mem 2000
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Don't worry people GPUs are here to stay, I have been saying this for some time despite all the negativity and FPGA and ASICs hype.
They have many use cases outside pure hashing. New markets for them are emerging and algos like ProgPoW will give them new life.
And we also have XMR devs which I admire for their dedication.
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We know there are a lot of scams, who the hell would be that stupid to get scammed with a photoshopped picture, but don't talk if you are not providing legit arguments.
I can think of quite a few recently here on bitcointalk. Dwarfminer comes to mind. You ordering 14 ASICs on a site with no reputation...I would call that stupid, but thats just me. I think the warnings are well deserved. I don't care if you or anyone heed them but don't come back crying then, like the Dwarminer victims. They were told muplitple time, they still bought. |
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Also you sell 50K$ FGPA plug and play devices and have blurry images on your webpage. Weird aint it.
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Anyone that is not using Solar to turn Sunshine into money is C-R-A-Z-Y. ;  Ask yourself the next time you open that $500+ electric bill: "How many solar panels would this have bought?" Chris B. Yup going solar soon as well. Even without mining my house with two households uses a lot of power. So its a win win really. Now to just use the heat to reduce the heating bill in the winder and I am golden. |
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I am still very skeptical about ASICs since they can become door stoppers extremely fast...
If you data is accurate that would mean the break even time would be 90 days, that's not bad at all. You still need to make sure that the coins which you're going to mine are not going to switch the algo and become ASIC resistant. So, make sure you keep an eye on the news.
ROI is not 90 days, cause still need to pay ship and tax fee, so in my case, living in Brazil, ROI should be 160 days, cause of high import fee. Any one must remember tax and ship fees, and of course, like you said research about mineable coins for any asic type before buy. I hope you are not calculating ROI on current hashrated. Once the ASICs hit they saturate the network. That why they mostly never ROI except maybe the first batch. If people would only stop being stupid buying them and making only the corrupt manufacturers rich, they maybe we could get rid of them. But greed is a powerfull motivator. I wont to buy any ASIC, just telling ship and TAX are not free, but yes, if I want to buy any device, I always use current hashrate and coin value, you must remeber any coin can double value at any time, not easy, but it´s possible, also coin have daily change, today miners get 10% or more compared to yesterday. It was a general statement, it was not aimed at you. Just wanted to point out that using values on the network before ASICs hit is wrong. And yes ship and TAX can be a lot. Also some ASICs need power suply and EU must also pay customs. |
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I am still very skeptical about ASICs since they can become door stoppers extremely fast...
If you data is accurate that would mean the break even time would be 90 days, that's not bad at all. You still need to make sure that the coins which you're going to mine are not going to switch the algo and become ASIC resistant. So, make sure you keep an eye on the news.
ROI is not 90 days, cause still need to pay ship and tax fee, so in my case, living in Brazil, ROI should be 160 days, cause of high import fee. Any one must remember tax and ship fees, and of course, like you said research about mineable coins for any asic type before buy. I hope you are not calculating ROI on current hashrated. Once the ASICs hit they saturate the network. That why they mostly never ROI except maybe the first batch. If people would only stop being stupid buying them and making only the corrupt manufacturers rich, they maybe we could get rid of them. But greed is a powerfull motivator. |
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Question is when do people decide that decentralization is no longer necessary and just go with it. I think many here have. Well I can’t say I expect anything less since they couldn’t help to build bitcoin they needed to control their own coin. That’s the argument being used now. Don’t like x coin just create your own. Hahah as if it works that way when we have asic farms that can destroy anything that could threaten the status quo of coins now. Decentralized my ass. Hell look what people did to Ethereum and the DAO. Anything that has potential with be knocked back down by the powers to be. If your still chugging along it’s because your not a threat to the agenda. Just doing busy work to keep you occupied🤓🤔
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I still don't get why people think that ASICs make anything centralised more than mining farms or so on. People with lots of money will create huge farms ( with Asics or With VGA it does not matter). If you have money and intersted in crypo mining you will do you best to have the most hashpower. There is no point to make anything Asic resisantant as there is no such a thing to be Asic Resistant. Technology will evolve, ASIC will be there, but probably because of past algo changes it will be hidden from public, used by manufafturer firms only forever. ( Like Baikal do with Groestl coin miner imo - check the hashrate from the past 6 months) Solution against certain ASIC dominance would be to have more ASIC manufacturer with reasonable prices IMO. Because of the price they are accesible only to people with a lot of money. That is not decentralization. On top of that Bitmain and manufacturers run their own huge farms. NVIDIA and AMD don't do that. GPUs are commodity hardware that i can buy at low prices everywhere so they are accessible to everyone. I cannot even buy most of the ASICs in EU let alone have the money to buy them. I could go on but whats the point. People fail to see this. |
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This was a good thing to happen, next time the ones scammed will think twice before giving their money away.
Actually i saw a another FPGA thread and two of the same people that got scammed here were the only one trusting that guy over there. I guess they never learn. Different people involved. What you're saying is akin to never buying tacos again because one you bought off a truck gave you food poisoning. That doesn't make all other tacos bad. (not vouching for anyone by saying that, just saying that some of the FPGA vendors out there are riskier than others) EDIT TO ADD: the other main FPGA thread is also not just one guy, there are other stores and several coders, as well as many forum users vouching for all of them. Still COULD be a scam, but a world of difference between that and a relatively new user with some jpegs. Well yes I agree to an extent but what I observe is that some people want some things to become reality so badly that they are willing to fall for it multiple times. Its like an addiction. |
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