Hehe, the price is still $0.15 !!!! In the beginning, I mined some coins for this and then moved away to another coin which has seen the price of the latter from $0.15 to 20 times increase, But looking back here, this coin is still $0.15. I think that the main reason was due to ASIC machines.
The stupidity I read on these forum is mind bogling. There are no ASICS for the algo. Do I need to say more. The reasons for the price are different. |
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Hello,
i'm trying to mine Lyra2z algorithm coins such as Zcoin with AMD RX580 running on win 10 but no luck
anyone have information regarding this ?
The only way to mine lyra2z coins with AMD on Windows is SGMiner which sucks. Use tdxminer and Linux. If you are willing to donate some BTC or ETH I can help you set it up. And before you start, no my time is not free and I helped to many for free already  |
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Bit.Tube ( https://bit.tube) ha PoV (proof of view) which rewards both the ones that created the content as the ones that are viewing it. And it works. |
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Fun to watch all those newbie accounts pops out to shill and deffend scams. Every thread is the same. shed loads of newbier accounts shilling same old same old. And same newbie accounts showing up to deffend and tell thoswe who has different opinion "get a life". @Walter: this is is fight we cannot win and don't even want to win. haters gonna hate and continue spreading their shameless FUD scam messages. probably best to just ignore these trolls and not feed them, otherwise they keep coming back.  @anyone looking for a constructive and open discussion about the Nodium project, please stop wasting your time here and join us on Discord https://discordapp.com/invite/SF4b5ks. find out for yourself what a great community we are. happy to answer all your questions!  FUD? All facts are above in findings. SCAM messages? One and only who might scamming is premine king dev who selling premine to all you bagholders. I dont see any serious shill here. just newbies sockpuppets account deffending same old same old. Exactly. I did a 5 minute research and I can tell its shady at best. - crap whitepaper, if you can call it that - roadmap that says basically nothing - a github repo that has 0 commint, basically all the code is the same as it was when imported I could go on but I won't. JAMN. |
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GPUs were never ideal for mining. Yes, they are reconfigurable, so are FPGA. The nice thing about the FPGA is that the performance ratio is much higher. On a POW network secured by FPGA the cost of entry for an ASIC is much higher for small players. Everyone is so busy worrying about bitmain they're not thinking about the smaller players out there who are developing extremely low cost high level ASICs. For example, the cost of entry for a 130 to 110nm ASIC might be UNDER $100,000 and it would have performance / power ratios multiples higher than a GPU (depending on the algo). And, at these high levels you can very quickly create, verify and print the design. But, when you compare the performance of a 110nm ASIC to a 16nm FPGA, the FPGA would blow it out of the water. Performance comparisons between ASICs and 16nm FPGA would probably start around 45->32nm. This means, if someone wanted to create an ASIC to mine on these coins they'll have to do so at least those levels. This increases the cost, time to delivery, and risk of failure. What we are working on now is further reducing costs and what I want to see is to see these devices enter into the realm of GPU pricing. Let's give the video cards back to the gamers and use devices that are more suited for what we need in the crypto community. There are no GPU maximalist atm, GPU mining is also abused by large GPU farms that do no good
FPGA might even be end of POW, as big farms will harvest 90% now, as I don`t trust on FPGA open sourcing! (might happen for some but they all will be low profit as rest big evil farms will be even worst then bitmain!)
We're selling these devices now at the lowest cost anyone has ever publicly or privately advertised these boards for, ever. We were able to obtain an amazing deal and instead of profit taking on that, we're passing it along. Be the change you want to see and support the change you want to see. Currently they are still to expensive. I would rather see weaker devices but in the price range of 1000$. If you can do that senseless then hats down to you. I have nothing against FPGA (my main objection against ASICs are the companies that make them and their unethical pratices) but if you can lower the prices so that small time miners can enter the FPGA field, that would be really awesome. |
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And most people are like me not like those just diving in blind. Thats why I am sure FPGA will be a niche game for quite a long time if not forever.
I'll take that action. Name the wager That is my opinion. I don't bet on opinions, actually I don't bet at all. Lets just wait and see. If I am wrong I will simply admit that I was and others were right, no shame and problem with that in my book. |
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As I already stated in some threads the FPGA were overhyped as its the usual in crypto. There will be some scam threads (like that dwarf FPGA) and there will be legit ones like this one here. But the performance is not what people hoped it to be, or feared it to be it seems. They are good if you have deep pockets because they concentrate power and if you are doing large scale they have really low power consumption and that is indeed very important. But I don't see FPGA yet being relavant for the ordinary home miners like myself. For large scale operations definitely but for home use, no. To much uncertainty, to short warranty. For that price to much risk overall. On the other hand it will be interesting to see how much optimization sw developers can squeeze out of these cards and how much they can improve the hashrates. Its interesting to watch things develop. I will definitely closely monitor the progress and read the first user reports So no worries for GPU miner as I predicted. Always so much noise but GPU mining is here to stay and is still quite nicely profitable. What is the most interesting part of FPGA for me is the concentration. Heck if for the same price of my 24*1070ti i can have 3 FPGA than use only 400w instead of 2500w that will produce less heat and be more profitable why not run with it. But the main issue is obviously the know how which i'm lacking. I wish i could develop my own bitstream Sure, I agree, thats why I said its for the big players. But for me and other small miners its much easier to scale card by card. I buy AMD cards (RX 580) as they are affordable and offer quite a bang for the buck. This way I can scale nicely over time because I don't have the means to just cash out 3-4K$. And even if I did have that means this is a completely fresh market. And with that you don't even know what kind of problems you will encounter. Some people have full pockets of cash it seems and can throw 10K out the Windows if need be, but I can't. I need to check every dollar I invest into mining. And most people are like me not like those just diving in blind. Thats why I am sure FPGA will be a niche game for quite a long time if not forever. |
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As I already stated in some threads the FPGA were overhyped as its the usual in crypto. There will be some scam threads (like that dwarf FPGA) and there will be legit ones like this one here. But the performance is not what people hoped it to be, or feared it to be it seems. They are good if you have deep pockets because they concentrate power and if you are doing large scale they have really low power consumption and that is indeed very important. But I don't see FPGA yet being relavant for the ordinary home miners like myself. For large scale operations definitely but for home use, no. To much uncertainty, to short warranty. For that price to much risk overall. On the other hand it will be interesting to see how much optimization sw developers can squeeze out of these cards and how much they can improve the hashrates. Its interesting to watch things develop. I will definitely closely monitor the progress and read the first user reports So no worries for GPU miner as I predicted. Always so much noise but GPU mining is here to stay and is still quite nicely profitable. |
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Ok so lyra2z is hashing at 20 Mh/s. A single RX 580 hashes at 3.2 Mh/s. A single Vega64 hashes over 6 Mh/s. You therefore need 6x RX 580 for one FPGA. But you can get 6x RX 580 probably for around half the price of a single FPGA. It is as I thought it would be. They are not so terribly powerfull, but they do have a loooot better hash per W ratio. They are expensive, so basically for those with deep pockets. On the other hand as this is still a fairly new field being born again from the ashes, this means there will be some birthing problems etc...In the end I would still bet on GPUs simply because they are proven 100 times over and flexible. You all have to also bear in mind theat GPUs today are basically 3-4 year old arhitecture. AMD for instance is going on with the same artitecture simply because they did not need to get out anything new. I am sure they (and NVIDIA) have much more powerfull GPUs already prepared but are holding back. So it can as well happen you pay costly for FPGAs just to have both GPU manufacturers release relly powefull cards at the end of the year for instance. And because of mass production they will always be cheaper. I am definitely going to wait to see how all this plays out EDIT: And I just read about 90 days of waranty. Is this correct? I get 90 days of warranty for a 3K$ worth piece of tech. Em ok. Meanwhile I get years of warranty for GPUs. Man if that thing dies after 6 months thats gonna be really bad. I don't try to put anyone down here don't get me wrong. You seem legit, I am just that voice of doubt in the back of peoples heads Although I am sure most will ignore me lol. There are 2 different lyra2zs.. One is 2,8192,256 (zcoin) The other is 8,8,8 (everything else) Which one are you talking about? For the 8,8,8 coins the hashrates are significantly lower than 2,8192,256 (zcoin). I am talking about the 8,8,8 coins I guess. The GIN coin and company. My RX 580 does 3.2 Mh/s rock solid and my RX 470 around 2.6 Mh/s. So i can match the hasrate for half the price with RX 580 cards but for a lot higher wattage. One cards uses around 100W on lyra2z so 600 for 20 MH/s. Although I would have to calculate when I do break even if I would buy a FPGA. Also you then have to calucate in all the potential problems a new product will have and you only give 90 days warranty. We have 0 experience how the cards will work. There is 0 millage on them by the community. On the other hands my RX 580 come with a long warranty the ability to mine any algo today are rock solid and proven 1000 times over. And I can resell them easily. So as I see it now at least for lyra2z its not worth it at all. Again just stating my opinion, you seem like a good guy senseless. Thank you for showing your identity and thank you for trying to get FPGA to the masses. I know you could easily just skip that so I really don't want you to see this as me attacking you because I am not. I am just trying to be the voice of the opposite side;) And keep up the good work, I am really interested what the performance on other algos will be Also note that lyra2z is maybe a little speciall because people found out how to really do a good miner with AMD cards right now. After looking into it, I see someone released a new optimized kernel that I either didn't see before or was just recently released... Yes, GPU hashrates have increased a bit from where they were when I was doing my calculations. All I can say is, the core is still under development and I'm not going to promise anything I can't deliver. Yes for AMD, tdxminer does 3.2 MH/s on RX 580. I am using it for the last month and it works rock stable on Linux. There is also another Kernel that supposedly can do even better. The author claimed like 25% better but then never released it because of the tdxminer. Could be just vapor for all we know it. He wanted a 25% fee for the miner lol. The AMD cards can do wonders on some algos its just that there are no publicly available really optimized miners for them. That was proven first with optimizing x16r for AMD (and I am sure there is still room) and now with lyra2z. For a long time AMD was all ethash and cryptonight but its slowly changing now. |
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Ok so lyra2z is hashing at 20 Mh/s. A single RX 580 hashes at 3.2 Mh/s. A single Vega64 hashes over 6 Mh/s. You therefore need 6x RX 580 for one FPGA. But you can get 6x RX 580 probably for around half the price of a single FPGA. It is as I thought it would be. They are not so terribly powerfull, but they do have a loooot better hash per W ratio. They are expensive, so basically for those with deep pockets. On the other hand as this is still a fairly new field being born again from the ashes, this means there will be some birthing problems etc...In the end I would still bet on GPUs simply because they are proven 100 times over and flexible. You all have to also bear in mind theat GPUs today are basically 3-4 year old arhitecture. AMD for instance is going on with the same artitecture simply because they did not need to get out anything new. I am sure they (and NVIDIA) have much more powerfull GPUs already prepared but are holding back. So it can as well happen you pay costly for FPGAs just to have both GPU manufacturers release relly powefull cards at the end of the year for instance. And because of mass production they will always be cheaper. I am definitely going to wait to see how all this plays out EDIT: And I just read about 90 days of waranty. Is this correct? I get 90 days of warranty for a 3K$ worth piece of tech. Em ok. Meanwhile I get years of warranty for GPUs. Man if that thing dies after 6 months thats gonna be really bad. I don't try to put anyone down here don't get me wrong. You seem legit, I am just that voice of doubt in the back of peoples heads Although I am sure most will ignore me lol. There are 2 different lyra2zs.. One is 2,8192,256 (zcoin) The other is 8,8,8 (everything else) Which one are you talking about? For the 8,8,8 coins the hashrates are significantly lower than 2,8192,256 (zcoin). I am talking about the 8,8,8 coins I guess. The GIN coin and company. My RX 580 does 3.2 Mh/s rock solid and my RX 470 around 2.6 Mh/s. So i can match the hasrate for half the price with RX 580 cards but for a lot higher wattage. One cards uses around 100W on lyra2z so 600 for 20 MH/s. Although I would have to calculate when I do break even if I would buy a FPGA. Also you then have to calucate in all the potential problems a new product will have and you only give 90 days warranty. We have 0 experience how the cards will work. There is 0 millage on them by the community. On the other hands my RX 580 come with a long warranty the ability to mine any algo today are rock solid and proven 1000 times over. And I can resell them easily. So as I see it now at least for lyra2z its not worth it at all. Again just stating my opinion, you seem like a good guy senseless. Thank you for showing your identity and thank you for trying to get FPGA to the masses. I know you could easily just skip that so I really don't want you to see this as me attacking you because I am not. I am just trying to be the voice of the opposite side;) And keep up the good work, I am really interested what the performance on other algos will be Also note that lyra2z is maybe a little speciall because people found out how to really do a good miner with AMD cards right now. |
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in his mothers basement?!?! geeze I hope she gets a slice of what he makes if she don't that's just messed up and not the kinda crap id wanna hear about. sure ohh wow he has a 50k mining farm except HE WAS TO CHEAP TO PUT IT IN HIS OWN PLACE. oh fancy that id doubt he even has his own place. this is what happens when your too danm cheap and you just want to use people. shame on you for promoting this guy
When you get a real taste of life, you come back and let us know. Did it ever dawn on you that maybe he lost his home to (A) EX Wife took it all. (B)lost his job due to company closure (C)Got injured and lost job (D)Decided he was tired of working "for the man" and now works for himself while paying parents rent or (E) Its really none of your business what his business plan is let alone his life plan is. You sure rush to judgement awfully fast...Whats that about stones and glass houses? I do agree, don't judge to fast. However if any of that things happened to him where the hell did he get 50K for a farm? |
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Ok so lyra2z is hashing at 20 Mh/s. A single RX 580 hashes at 3.2 Mh/s. A single Vega64 hashes over 6 Mh/s. You therefore need 6x RX 580 for one FPGA. But you can get 6x RX 580 probably for around half the price of a single FPGA. It is as I thought it would be. They are not so terribly powerfull, but they do have a loooot better hash per W ratio. They are expensive, so basically for those with deep pockets. On the other hand as this is still a fairly new field being born again from the ashes, this means there will be some birthing problems etc...In the end I would still bet on GPUs simply because they are proven 100 times over and flexible. You all have to also bear in mind theat GPUs today are basically 3-4 year old arhitecture. AMD for instance is going on with the same artitecture simply because they did not need to get out anything new. I am sure they (and NVIDIA) have much more powerfull GPUs already prepared but are holding back. So it can as well happen you pay costly for FPGAs just to have both GPU manufacturers release relly powefull cards at the end of the year for instance. And because of mass production they will always be cheaper. I am definitely going to wait to see how all this plays out EDIT: And I just read about 90 days of waranty. Is this correct? I get 90 days of warranty for a 3K$ worth piece of tech. Em ok. Meanwhile I get years of warranty for GPUs. Man if that thing dies after 6 months thats gonna be really bad. I don't try to put anyone down here don't get me wrong. You seem legit, I am just that voice of doubt in the back of peoples heads Although I am sure most will ignore me lol. |
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you can do that, of course. but I set up SMOS that way so I can monitor it from web, use clocks from web and everything else like tdxminer is integrated in SMOS. is it worth or not, it's up to you.
Well sure if someone pays you why not I am happy with my non-integrated HiveOS miner. It runs rock solid so I don't need any web monitoring. I can see hashrates on the pools and there they are more accurate anyway. But good job on the integration. Btw won't every update of SMOS break it? |
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guys, I added tdxminer to smos. It's running rock solid for two months now. I can write you step how to achieve that for 0.1 ETH. You can send me PM or DM on discord : @skrgahr proof : https://imgur.com/a/ebcE1o1For 0.1 ETH? I don't know for SMOS but on hive you simply download the miner, extract it and run. Rocket science. I am sure its worh 0.1 ETH per person  |
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new and profitable mining pool, take advantage of finding blocks to start your masternodos since the difficulty is low:
http://struena.ddns.net/Claymore: setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100 EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool stratum+tcp://struena.ddns.net:8008 -ewal "YOUR_WALLET" -epsw x -allcoins 1 -allpools 1 Ethminer: ethminer.exe -F http://struena.ddns.net:8888/<address>/<worker> -G You can't start your masternodes (see the spelling) as the project is dead. |
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If it's to good to be true it is. People who sent their money have lost it. It's as simple as that. I'll cut my hair if this is legit
Can you please provide proof that you actually have hair. I want to make sure this offer is legit. Impressive. I can't even comprehend what you did to come up with this image. Anyway, people will keep doubting this FPGA trend until it actually becomes too mainstream. By then it will be so expensive and most likely way less profitable. Sadly, thats just how the way it works and will continue to work. I think it will be the other way arround. Half these project will turn out to be scam and other half will be far less capable then advertised. FPGA is the biggest fog of this year. Not that it does not exist but its not what it is advertised to be. FOMO all the way. For me its just mindlowing how people throw money to these so called projects without s single piece of evidence. Damn. Oh btw I also develop FPGA. For only 100$ mine are even better then the rest. If interested just send me money and you are in |
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I already posted how to reduce voltage on HiveOS. My cards run supercool and at 140-150W each.
Where? For Vegas?! 150w?! and 6Mh?! and supercool?! impossible)) I can find you posts about that... Please write again here.. Ah missed the Vega part. Sry man, I am tired, to much to read and to do  I guess Vegas don't work with Hive? But you could basically just use the tool I used on hive to adjust the voltage and clocks right? Or am I missing something. |
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