Sorry to disappoint you, BUT IT IS NOT FUD WHEN IT is TRUE.
PRICE IS 900 AND GOING DOWN
BTC one month ago: 6200$ BTC right now: around 8200$ BTC in one week: +17% In one week, bittube is 9% up against USD. Bittube down against BTC, who gives a f*ck ? I don't trade bittube for BTC. After the big BTC pump will come the dump, whales are pushing for panic buys in BTC. You're fudding to buy cheaper and cheaper. you are trying your best as a team member.! but it is useless. go change ur mining difficulty. it is a joke . your coins are easily mined and dumped in the market pushing the price to 500 satoshi soon. next time before u lunch a coin do your math. if you do not know how , GO LEARN Now Chinese miners are dumping the price cuz of ur stupidity. now go back to your Discord chat and tell your team the price has reached 900 and going down. maybe that will push them to do something useful about it. Man, this guy has been right for so long , and continuing to be right. Happy I stop-lossed at 0.00001. good luck to all holders, you'll need it. Sorry but he was just lucky. That guy is as dumb as a rock, just read his posts. Even the dumbest idiot is right once. |
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Sorry to disappoint you, BUT IT IS NOT FUD WHEN IT is TRUE.
PRICE IS 900 AND GOING DOWN
BTC one month ago: 6200$ BTC right now: around 8200$ BTC in one week: +17% In one week, bittube is 9% up against USD. Bittube down against BTC, who gives a f*ck ? I don't trade bittube for BTC. After the big BTC pump will come the dump, whales are pushing for panic buys in BTC. You're fudding to buy cheaper and cheaper. you are trying your best as a team member.! but it is useless. go change ur mining difficulty. it is a joke . your coins are easily mined and dumped in the market pushing the price to 500 satoshi soon. next time before u lunch a coin do your math. if you do not know how , GO LEARN Now Chinese miners are dumping the price cuz of ur stupidity. now go back to your Discord chat and tell your team the price has reached 900 and going down. maybe that will push them to do something useful about it. Man, this guy has been right for so long , and continuing to be right. Happy I stop-lossed at 0.00001. good luck to all holders, you'll need it. Sorry, can't hear you over the BitTube MasterCard announcement.  https://mobile.twitter.com/BitTubeApp/status/1024283690879393794Are you new in that market? I know a few other companies going out with a "credit card publicity" like AMN - but anything that requires you to "stake" their coins (or 'hold' if you may) is silly. If you'd reply with the price - while relevant to the announcement i would eat my hat. I'm not saying its a bad project, its great - even more so when there was no ICO - BUT the price is still not determined. All of you price and mining difficulty and mining rewards etc miners out there have no clue. The price is down because it constantly being manipulated I am sure of it. Miner have nothing to do with that. There are lots of PoW coins out there, if that was true all would have problems. The cheap CPU miners and botnets were dealt with. What is left is market and that it is how it is. About the credit card. Its a fantastic idea. You have to stake, it serves two purposes: 1. It locks some coins so they are out of circulation. Like MN or PoS coins work. This will help the price. 2. It makes sure you have some coverage for your card. I see no issue in that. And show me one project out there in crypto that has done so much as TUBE has in just a few months. There is none. All words and hype while TUBE is actually doing shit. Price will come, sooner or later. Sell now and beat yourself on the heads later. Don't say I did not warn you. You can always go buy some ETN, I am sure they will moon soon....  |
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Look actually interesting. Here is why: - most coins will be airdroped, that is kind of a fresh approach - no presale, ICO or premine - I can see that the exchange is mostly done so a working product is a plus - The vision seems good In the flood of scam and amateur projects, this on at leasts instill hope in me to be different and might live to the end of the year  |
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Why buy it?
OTC offer: Ill buy ANY amount of IPBC at fork time at 1 litoshi Be carefull with what you state here |
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So you are abandoning the video platform concept..? and u are just making another CN coin?Just gonna use the CN Saber algo? I'm missing something?? Are u against the 3% fee that will be used half for marketing and the other half to compensate the owners of bit.tube that have invested allot of their own money to develop this project and pay for the salaries of many devs and employeez..??
we like the video concept, but we also like to have a clean cn coin on current and updated technology without ANY fee. Sure because why give anyone any inneciative to actually develop anything. And btw what will generate the request for your coins? Why buy it? |
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the cheap one is us post office flat rate medium box I think that is about 6 to 10 days to most of the world.
fedex is fedex one is faster then the other.
one is about 6 days the other is about 3 days
what country are you in?
I am in EUROPE, so I don't know If i can take that flat rate 75 USD shipping, also I don't intend to pay tax to them because tax will be payed to my customs when it arrives to my country. Also because my customs will be charging me TAX on complete value (Goods + shipping) it important to say that if i buy something for 200USD and shipping is 150 USD, customs will be charging TAX on 350 USD. Because of that I don't want to for someone to return me overpriced shipping later because my expense would be expanded to bigger proportions because of VAT. I think this is so unprofessional to start major operation without testing the web shop. I am also from EU. GPUHoarder said that the VAT you pay on their side includes the import tax, so you should pay only once and customs should not charge you. Hovewer i have no hard evidence that it is really that way. |
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That is again jumping to conclusions. This thread is full of that. Where is the proof that he is covering up? He is simply not cooperating with you guys and I can understand him on that. You really can't accuse people without any proof. Covering up would mean he is deliberatly and knowingly trying to help the scammer to cover up the scam. All I saw in this longwinded thread is:
He's refusing to provide information that could help to identify the scammers. That's quite deliberate and I would call that a cover-up. 1. He posted some claims on Discord that may or may not be true. Noone knows the facts as of right know.
2. He refuses to show any evidence that the device actually exists and he owns it.
These two points are the only 2 facts in this whole mess of a thread. Everything else is speculation and slander. You accuse him of lying, but you actually cannot prove it. He did not prove he is not lying, but you cannot prove that he is. So stating as a matter of fact that he is lying is a lie by itself. And accusing him of covering up is a fabrication as yet again you don't have any proof that he is.
He lied at least twice - when he promised to post more info on discord and in this thread. According to your argument it wouldn't be possible to prove anything ever if he simply refuses to provide proof or to admit that he lied. Again, this is not a court of law and we're not sentencing him to prison, we're expressing our opinions. My opinion is based on certain facts, such as DwarfMiner failing to deliver the product and smaram failing to show the product, whereas yours is based mostly on your trust in smaram and not much else. Thats why I am on his side, not because I beleive him, but because you people are making up things and accusing him of deeds you cannot prove true. Do I beleive that he actually has a device? I don't know, if I was forced to make an answer I would probably lean on the side of no, but that is beside the point. I am on his side simply because he has done nothing to deserve all this that is happening here and because all this is very unethical and unfair.
How many people make claims on the Discord and write all kind of shit but noone makes a X posts long thread accusing them of every possible thing out there. If you are an honest person then read all that you wrote and ask yourself if you are any better then Smaram?
And sry for my English, its not my first language and I also write this an old laptop with shitty keyboard. But I hope you understand my points.
smaram is the only one you can set things straight so if he's not lying then you'd think it would be in his best interest to do so. I'm not the one threatening him with lawyers, in fact I'm encouraging him to speak to his own lawyers because he sounds quite clueless. I'm really getting tired if this false-equivalence / all-or-nothing shit. Stop deflecting into other shitcoins, other people on discord, etc. It's about Dwarf FPGA scam and smaram's involvement, not "every possible thing". Other people doing bad things is a topic for another thread. I agree there is no point in continuing this. We don't agree now and we obviously will not find common ground in the future. |
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Solve the issues with him and him only and leave the project alone.
EDIT:
I will try to talk to him again when he is back in the office at the end of July and try to convince him to post the pictures here. But he was really pissed about how he got treated here, so it could be mission impossible.
He gets treated exactly like he deserves. That might change if he's able to prove he's not lying but so far he hasn't shown any willingness to do so and is threatening with lawyers. It doesn't matter that you think BitTube is the greatest project. Covering up a scam is not cool. That is again jumping to conclusions. This thread is full of that. Where is the proof that he is covering up? He is simply not cooperating with you guys and I can understand him on that. You really can't accuse people without any proof. Covering up would mean he is deliberatly and knowingly trying to help the scammer to cover up the scam. All I saw in this longwinded thread is: 1. He posted some claims on Discord that may or may not be true. Noone knows the facts as of right know. 2. He refuses to show any evidence that the device actually exists and he owns it. These two points are the only 2 facts in this whole mess of a thread. Everything else is speculation and slander. You accuse him of lying, but you actually cannot prove it. He did not prove he is not lying, but you cannot prove that he is. So stating as a matter of fact that he is lying is a lie by itself. And accusing him of covering up is a fabrication as yet again you don't have any proof that he is. Thats why I am on his side, not because I beleive him, but because you people are making up things and accusing him of deeds you cannot prove true. Do I beleive that he actually has a device? I don't know, if I was forced to make an answer I would probably lean on the side of no, but that is beside the point. I am on his side simply because he has done nothing to deserve all this that is happening here and because all this is very unethical and unfair. How many people make claims on the Discord and write all kind of shit but noone makes a X posts long thread accusing them of every possible thing out there. If you are an honest person then read all that you wrote and ask yourself if you are any better then Smaram? And sry for my English, its not my first language and I also write this an old laptop with shitty keyboard. But I hope you understand my points. |
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@smaram
I'm politely asking for Your genuine photos of Dwarfminer You received and from postal sticker in order to help community tracking scammers that are basically ruining reputation of cryptocurrencies. Something that You should be interested too, as a cryptocurrency investor.
If You found other members too offensive and don't want to share something with whole community, You could PM photos to me, I know how to proceed them further to authorities that will use them best. It will not help members that bite this obvious scam, but will make crypto world cleaner.
Thank you for asking politely. If he misses this post, I will try to ping him when he is back at end of July. Can't promise you anything as at the end its up to him to decide if he will help or not. Again I must tell that I am in no way connected to him. I only know him from BitTube discord and I talked with him in PMs 2 or 3 times, that is all. |
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BitTube and everyone associated with it are now confirmed scam.
Yea, logic is your stongpoint isn't it. A project with 0 premine no ICO or anything, that had a working product when it came out, that has update announcment every single friday where the CEO (the one you call a scammer) is on Discord nighht and day answering questions and listening to the community. Yea sure. If you only knew what you talk about.... BitTube is one of the best project in Crypto. In the sea of all the real MN scam projects and wannabe project (EOS cough, cough) that publish a whitepaper and then deliver nothing for years while wasting ICO money (ETN cough, cough). But sure those are distinguished real projects. Oh man, the people and their logic. Nevermind, look back at this thread in a year and you will see who was right and who was wrong. This has nothing to do with other shitcoins so you can drop this line of shilling. Here's the question you BitTube apologists should be asking - what else the "CEO" has been lying about? A quick skim of the discord channels shows that he seems to have a very loose relationship with the facts. He got caught with Dwarf but it's extremely unlikely that this was the only time he ever lied. It doesn't work like that. Apologist would be someone disconected with the facts, trying to make a project look better then it actually is. While a lot of people on this thread simply slander the project without even knowing what it is about probably, I was following this project closely on the other hand from March. And its simply the truth. Its a great project with a really big potential. I have seen a lot of projects and almost none delivered anything. All hype and FUD. On the other hand BitTube is delivering and that is what matters. If you checked the Discord then you can see there is no hype, no hype marketing etc. Smaram said many times that BitTube is builind the platform to perfection first and then the marketing will come. Its smart, because people are sick of hype ICOs scamming them and delivering shit. If BitTube is a scam then its the worse scam in the history of Crypto lol. Its one thing to have a fight with Smaram (as I said I won't participate in that anymore), he can clear it himself and btw I talked with him and tried to convince him to show the pictures (btw he is abroad until 29.7 anyway, but noone wants to hear that). But I think its extremly irresponsible and low to try to discredit BitTube as there is really 0 to Discredit it for. Remember BitTube is a community and over 25 developers behind the project. And by doing what you people are doing is harming all of them. So in the end you are actually worse then the scammer that scammed you. I really wish people would think about what their actions and words can trigger and mean (and yes that goes for Smaram to for talking about that FPGA on BitTube Discord). Solve the issues with him and him only and leave the project alone. EDIT: I will try to talk to him again when he is back in the office at the end of July and try to convince him to post the pictures here. But he was really pissed about how he got treated here, so it could be mission impossible. |
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BitTube and everyone associated with it are now confirmed scam.
Yea, logic is your stongpoint isn't it. A project with 0 premine no ICO or anything, that had a working product when it came out, that has update announcment every single friday where the CEO (the one you call a scammer) is on Discord nighht and day answering questions and listening to the community. Yea sure. If you only knew what you talk about.... BitTube is one of the best project in Crypto. In the sea of all the real MN scam projects and wannabe project (EOS cough, cough) that publish a whitepaper and then deliver nothing for years while wasting ICO money (ETN cough, cough). But sure those are distinguished real projects. Oh man, the people and their logic. Nevermind, look back at this thread in a year and you will see who was right and who was wrong. |
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some fairy tale devices that have 0 evidence of:
1. A working product
"The bittube guy" is actually the only person (other than the scammer, if they're not the same person) who claimed to have tested a partially working product. So despite your valiant 6-paragraph attempt to deflect, he can only blame himself for this debacle. If he's such an astute businessman as you're claiming then I hope he will realize that it's not worth damaging the reputation of his business by covering up a scam. Let's start with high-resolution pictures of the device from all angles, with a current date and the businessman's name on a sheet of paper. Same with the shipping label. Not a huge request, is it? Unless he doesn't have the device. Yes he could take pictures and post them. But you people started all this wrong. If you approached him differently who knows, maybe you would already have pictures available. It was really not the correct way to handle things. But as I said I told my opinion and I am going to sidestep this whole thing. I have not ordered any dwarf miner devices and do feels for those who did. Although I don't see how they fell for obvious scam its still an unfortunate event and I would like to see 0 such scams in the future. |
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Spoštovani, sem izkušena freelancerka, ki govori nemščino in slovenščino kot materni jezik, prav tako pa obvladam angleščino. Če potrebujete osebo za prevod različnih tekstov in vsebin(veliko izkušenj imam s kompleksnejšimi temami iz področja "finance and marketing", kripto, medical sheet, data sheets, technical sheets, ipd...), sem vam na voljo.Ker trg cveti, sem se odločila, da povprašam, če lahko komu pomagam.  Za vprašanja sem vam na voljo. Lp, Lara S. Trg cveti....? |
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Man, I can't believe there are at least 4-5 accounts here with an agenda.
All we want from the BitTube guy is a picture of the product he received and we are asking politely. How hard is this ? Or he should at least admit that he was lying or give some explanation why he can't post the picture.
He said it, so own it.
Asking politely? Go read the last few pages again. Its a linch mob just like in the movies. I don't beleive what I see. First people are dumb enough to buy some fairy tale devices that have 0 evidence of: 1. A working product 2. A company behind it 3. Anything really Then when they actually find out that they were dumb and scammed they just pick a random guy to linch, because hey, lets feel bettet about our own stupidity. Again its just like a movie, just missing the pichforks. For the record why would he even have any obligations to any of you. He has 0 obligations to post pictures (does he own anything to you people, I don't think so). If he does post pictures its because he decides to, not because he has to or because you people demanded it. Its ridiculous. And yes if you asked nice he may actually do it, but comming out like you people did I know I would just ignore all of it. Read last few pages again. Then claim that his discord talk encouraged people to buy it is equally ridiculous. You all refer to him as some bittube guy. First if he is just some bittube guy then why did you listen to him (not that he was shilling it or forcing anyone to buy it)? With his discord messages included the whole scam was just as scammy as before. And still you bought. Blame yourselves. You were all told many times its a scam and still you bought. Now you play buthurt. Lol. And lastly, he is not some randome bittube guy he is an owner of multiple succesfull companies, that is why bittube had no ICO and no premine or anyting as he is sponsoring the development (of 25 devs) with his own money. I doubt any of you mega trolls are even close to him on bussines front. Yet you are demoting him here like a little boy. Man if I were him I would just ignore the lot of you. And lastly, what you are doing is slander of bittube and his own persona without 0 proof . You are accusing him of being a scammer without any proof. Let me repeat again he has nothing to prove to you, you need to have proof he is scamming, and lo and behold you have 0. So I would be more worried when his expensive attorneys find you out. It could get ugly. And you cannot hide behind an avatar on a forum if you wondered. So i hope you have some money saved With that i conclude my involment in this thread. For the reference I have exactly 0 connections to the guy, I am just disgusted how a person is easily accused with 0 proof and how a good project is easily slandered. Out. |
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$42 for shipping such a tiny thing? I've never paid so much for shipping not going to start now.
And why all the payment weirdness? crypto or ACH transfer only? Even in satoshi's white paper it is said that crytpo is not expected to eliminate fiat but compliment it.
I can buy all sorts of mining -crypto related- stuff with traditional payment methods. I hope this weirdness ends.
Just some feedback... I thought we were going to see a payment portal that accepted traditional payment methods.
More important then payment options (I mean you can just buy some bitcoint and then pay, not best but doable at least) is: - shipping (if you think 42$ is much then I can tell you I would need to pay 75$ for EU) - shipping from EU. I won't pay VAT + import tax. With both problems above 1 acorn would cost me basically 2 acorns. With all the talk about decentralization and equal opportunities US people still have huge advantage in everything. Untill EU gets the same options as US there is no decentralization for me The shipping is the same as if you quote fedex.com, actually that’s much worse for EU. We’re working on fixing this but that requires fedex fixing our rates in their API, but once it is fixed we will refund any differences. You won’t pay double VAT/Import, we do a DDP which is why you’re charged VAT. The EU has many taxes and fees for companies that do business with it - we gain nothing from all those extra charges, talk to your governments. There’s also a lot of misinformation in this thread - so much it is hard to keep up on. I would really encourage reading the FAQ on http://www.squirrelsresearch.comThank you for clarification. And sorry if I was spreading misinformation. But with all the taxes, regulations etc...its hard to know what you pay in the end. I also understand you had little time to prepare. Anyway going to read the FAQ. Don't worry we all know its not you charging us that extra costs but all the guys in between (shipping, guverments etc...). EDIT: Just read the FAQ, you should really put all the shipping and VAT, import TAX related info in there. It will reduce the number of questions and misinformation a lot. |
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$42 for shipping such a tiny thing? I've never paid so much for shipping not going to start now.
And why all the payment weirdness? crypto or ACH transfer only? Even in satoshi's white paper it is said that crytpo is not expected to eliminate fiat but compliment it.
I can buy all sorts of mining -crypto related- stuff with traditional payment methods. I hope this weirdness ends.
Just some feedback... I thought we were going to see a payment portal that accepted traditional payment methods.
More important then payment options (I mean you can just buy some bitcoint and then pay, not best but doable at least) is: - shipping (if you think 42$ is much then I can tell you I would need to pay 75$ for EU) - shipping from EU. I won't pay VAT + import tax. With both problems above 1 acorn would cost me basically 2 acorns. With all the talk about decentralization and equal opportunities US people still have huge advantage in everything. Untill EU gets the same options as US there is no decentralization for me |
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i did not claim smaram guilty here, i just stated he has it , and there is such device. people here thinks there was no device, never existed. yes i was mad at him once, then i said i m sorry for it. at least i am expecting the cargo details, to track scammers. when he s back , he ll tell us. right ? these are private talks that shows, there is such device, and he warned me about being careful about it i had taken the risk according to these talks, if it works for 20 mins and if i restart it then , if booting up takes 5 minutes so even it works for 45 minutes in one hour, and even under 75% capacity , i m ok with it i dont claim him guilty. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442318194389024769/467461870119288833/unknown.pnghttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/442318194389024769/467461973240709120/unknown.pngSeems like a missunderstanding to me. I don't even know if smaram (Saber Maram if anyone is interested you can check him on Bit.Tube webpage and he had a live interview with Seth recently) even reffered to the same device. Maybe he bought something else. I am in Bit.Tube discord from project start in March and also with the project constantly. And Saber is definitelly a good guy and would not intentionally do anything to make someone buy a scam. I am sure he will clear this up. But to all others. If you buy just because there are two lines of text from someone on Discord then don't blame anyone but yourselves really. |
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They are fixing the Fedex APIs as it calculates it wrong.
What about the double shipping charge from coinpayments? I've tried to place an order several times but I don't want to pay for shipping twice... Yet the total including shipping is sent to coinpayments and then coinpayments adds the shipping fee again. They are fixing that to. For me I guess I need to skipp this. Postage + VAT + custom = 2x the price. |
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Btw on top of VAT and postage you also pay the customs if in EU.  |
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They are fixing the Fedex APIs as it calculates it wrong.
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