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1161  Economy / Auctions / Re: [FAST AUCTION] Bitburner Fury board, 45GH/s+, in hand, ends tomorrow on: November 03, 2013, 07:01:25 AM
1.5 bitcoins

better get rid of it before all the ignorant ppl out there see the new difficulty level in 60 hours
1162  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Cheap/Bulk ASIC MINING HARDWARE on: November 03, 2013, 06:58:06 AM
its really relevant for people looking to bulk sell things

otherwise the prices are fairly low

the prices are only low for people that don't understand how things work here.  those prices are in fact way too HIGH now.

520m difficulty 2.5 days away... wtf?

I don't think they've been updated since the 23rd.
1163  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs - 60ghs - In Hand for sale on: November 03, 2013, 06:44:26 AM
I`ll offer 4 BTC.

The price your given, is based on rising difficulties and other machines being added everyday to the network with the Terra Hash.

I can go on being more detailed, but there are existing forum posts about everything.

Prices on BFL, are deflated based on more requirements for performance. Anyone mining needs a minimum of 3-4 singles.


I'll sell you (2) Avalon 60GH mini's for 4.5btc/ea shipped FREE domestically east of the mississippi. PM me if interested.

i'll pay 4.5btc for both

I will take the equivalent of $1000 cash for local pickup. Shipping, Escrow, and Insurance is on the buyer.

I'm in Texas, so it'd probably be too far for me to drive, but I know some folks that live in... Mississippi.  Exactly where are you east of the Mississippi?  That's a pretty large area  Grin

ah, I found in another thread... Pennsylvania?.. too far, bummer.   Though while I'd entertain the idea of paying $1000 for them, I probably would have wanted to drop down to $900 or so for a cash in hand pickup, anyway... which you probably wouldnt have taken.

but now it doesnt matter  Undecided
1164  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How profitable is it to operate a mining pool? on: November 03, 2013, 06:40:52 AM
curious about some of the history; Answer if, or as you will any of the following:

would you comment on how much of the pool's hash rate is your own personal miners? How does BTCGuild's position as one of the top pools affect attacks? Are you confident the major pools out there are relatively secure (Re: 50BTC's recent tragedy)?

right around the 51% issue BTCGuild was facing, when the Avalon ASICS first appeared,  I noticed there was a user ASICMiner on your pool. then shortly after the ASICminer pool started showing up on the block origin rankings. was there any connection between ASICminer and BTCGuild? Were you involved in helping them set up their pool? Or was that 2 separate entities?

 

ASICMINER is a private mining company that developed the first mass production ASICs.  They used BTC Guild as their pool during initial deployment for stability.  I did not know who they were (that they were actually ASICMINER) until after the fact.  A similar situation happend with the "100TH" mining group.  They were using BTC Guild during initial testing/deployment.  Eventually those large companies have gone solo mining, which is expected when you're controlling a fairly large hashing power (although at this time I wouldn't be surprised if 100TH ends up joining a pool again due to how fast the network is growing).

My personal mining power is between 0 and 10 GH/s at the moment.  I've recently turned off my Avalon (batch 2) due to the profit over electricity being very low, just not worth the constant noise if generates while I'm working all day.

Sell it while people will still pay way too much for it  Grin
1165  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [28 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 03, 2013, 05:40:02 AM
Just a heads up that from the 40 nodes I can see right now; 24.161.35.225, 184.56.251.69, 183.136.216.39, 24.10.44.25, 183.136.216.39, 95.128.48.209, 193.190.255.150, 38.109.218.101, 198.91.172.112, 209.195.4.74, 186.220.27.239 all have over 1MB of transactions stored (while most everyone else in this lot has 45kb).  That's why your bitcoind latency is so high.  Some of these nodes are essentially dead, but others aren't...

Upgrade your bitcoind version, you're probably picking up the horse staple battery transactions... or lower maxblocksize to something like 250000...

oh, btw, 24.161.35.225... very impressive system there, the other five I looked at had latencies from 2s to 6s, yours is hanging out around 0.9s...

Where do you find all this information?
www.nogleg.com:9332/peer_txpool_sizes

Look in the p2ool/web.py file and you'll find all the things you can query.  ed: I pulled that earlier list off my other server that I use as a relay, it connects to 40 random nodes, w/o using --p2pool-node, so it tends to get a bunch of duds; p2pool nodes that haven't been updated in a couple of months.

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zvs ,You seem to be really switched on , I was wondering what would cause the spike in latency in my graph.

I'm honestly not sure about those.  My guess would be that it's a large transaction that's being forwarded to your p2pool to store, but I'm not sure....  think it also occurs occasionally when blocks are solved.  The gradual increase is normal the longer it goes w/o a block being solved (all these transactions being stored)....

Now, my question... why does it report a much larger DOA rate in my log file www.nogleg.com/log then it does on the website?  

www.nogleg.com:9332/static

Also, is there some significant drawback to submitting a share twice?  I assume the second (or third or fourth) counts as a DOA, but ... wouldn't really be a DOA, since the first one would be the one that mattered?

Is that why there's like a 20% discrepency between the DOA in the log and the DOA on the website?

ED#10: good lord, ok, everything fixed.  now, anyone know the answer to the question?
1166  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [28 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 03, 2013, 04:10:24 AM
Just a heads up that from the 40 nodes I can see right now; 24.161.35.225, 184.56.251.69, 183.136.216.39, 24.10.44.25, 183.136.216.39, 95.128.48.209, 193.190.255.150, 38.109.218.101, 198.91.172.112, 209.195.4.74, 186.220.27.239 all have over 1MB of transactions stored (while most everyone else in this lot has 45kb).  That's why your bitcoind latency is so high.  Some of these nodes are essentially dead, but others aren't...

Upgrade your bitcoind version, you're probably picking up the horse staple battery transactions... or lower maxblocksize to something like 250000...

oh, btw, 24.161.35.225... very impressive system there, the other five I looked at had latencies from 2s to 6s, yours is hanging out around 0.9s...
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: A Complete Guide to P2Pool - Merged Mining (BTC/NMC/DVC/IXC/I0C) plus LTC, Linux on: November 02, 2013, 09:33:24 PM
smileandgo.de:9332

I hate that interface.  =p

The tables are all messed up, so it's hard to see.

.. but, yeah, you did get zero.. surprising.  I can tell because of the little dot on the share chart for 1Nkvy9srMWF6Aji1jp8aCVBXe8osKRoDzE (otherwise I'd just think the whole interface was screwed) ... so I think your server did find a share, just not for you?

The 'local share' field is just empty for me.



i have restart  the p2pool yesterday.

total shares from my node was 2. But not from me, this shares come from a 400 GHs . A friendly guy from this board, that show me, that my node can make shares.

well, you could always try my node.  i obsess over the stats, since there's nothing else for me to do now bitcoin related (until ppl stop paying absurd amounts for asics)

it needs some herlp since I had to reset it and it's 1 DOA out of 2 =/

but, yeah, that was just some seriously bad luck.  it could have been the exact opposite & you could have made bank...  over a long period of time, p2pool will pay out more than any pool that charges fees....  that is, if you're on one that averages 100%+ efficiency & it's one of the p2pools that doesn't charge a fee (and it also depends on if you're running it locally or not, and how much that costs).  

100% efficiency would generally be one that has about 85% good shares (probably a bit lower).  if they have the latest version of p2pool, good/orphan/doa will show up on the monthly chart etc.

orphans matter the most, you can figure out your expected DOA based on your latency. 

oh, that guy that got 2 shares...  uh, it looks to me like he got super lucky?
1168  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [28 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 02, 2013, 08:47:24 PM
hetzner network was screwed for about 15m, if anyone reads this that was mining on my pool or some other one located on hetzner network

oh, and luck over the last 3 days has been good if you include 266856 and onwards  Grin

5 blocks in 76 hours, estimated time is 14hr30m but that's with 32.9 thash, and the average over the last 76 hours is probably more like 29-30thash...  jaja

btw: whoever is using p2pool.org:9332 and paying 2% for 75% efficiency... stop!

I second that!  I've got my measily 12gh/s pointed to zvs's server and it's working pretty well.  I gave up trying to run my own, don't have the bandwidth for it. Sad

(btw - thanks zvs!!)

M

Heh, I think that must of been you who connected to my pool for a few minuites then


ah, nice to have backup pools set, never know when someone might DoS a p2pool to take that .001% hashrate out of action.

 i think you have the wrong person though, since if you look at my weekly chart, FTX has been on it for 3 or 4 days =p

edited!
1169  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [28 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 02, 2013, 07:28:11 PM
hetzner network was screwed for about 15m, if anyone reads this that was mining on my pool or some other one located on hetzner network

oh, and luck over the last 3 days has been good if you include 266856 and onwards  Grin

5 blocks in 76 hours, estimated time is 14hr30m but that's with 32.9 thash, and the average over the last 76 hours is probably more like 29-30thash...  jaja

btw: whoever is using p2pool.org:9332 and paying 2% for 75% efficiency... stop!

I second that!  I've got my measily 12gh/s pointed to zvs's server and it's working pretty well.  I gave up trying to run my own, don't have the bandwidth for it. Sad

(btw - thanks zvs!!)

M

heh, speaking of which...  i just noticed all the DOA, and it looks like i have nearly 1000 python connects from one person.   not sure if something is just busted or if it's intentional or not, i guess i might reset p2pool.

alright, I don't think it was an actual miner, since when I firewalled the IP, nobody's activity dropped off...   but the 600-700 open sockets in python weren't closing, so i used fuser -k (then some 600 connections went from established to FIN_WAIT_1).  surely there is some better solution?  anyone that has more knowledge of linux?   was there any way to get rid of all that w/o having to restart p2pool?

i added some limit to simultaneous connections in firewall settings anyway

it was 220.233.90.xx, some ADSL connection from Australia

& having the stats reset sucks.  0 orphans in the last 24 hrs, and 1 out of like 200 shares =p
1170  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTS bfl jalapeņo on: November 02, 2013, 07:13:59 PM
wait, can these things go faster than 7ghash nowadays?   i think i must be missing something here, what, with difficulty going to 525m in less than 3 days

1171  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Cheap/Bulk ASIC MINING HARDWARE on: November 02, 2013, 07:09:08 PM
And you really taught people would dump them for these prices, 60 USD for a Jalapeno? Come on dude Smiley
why wouldnt they?  it'll never make $60.  if you do think it'd make $60, you'd be better off selling it now and then using that $60 in hand to buy bitcoins, because the only way it'd make that much is if the price goes up to $300 or more
1172  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs - 60ghs - In Hand for sale on: November 02, 2013, 07:07:24 PM
I`ll offer 4 BTC.

The price your given, is based on rising difficulties and other machines being added everyday to the network with the Terra Hash.

I can go on being more detailed, but there are existing forum posts about everything.

Prices on BFL, are deflated based on more requirements for performance. Anyone mining needs a minimum of 3-4 singles.


I'll sell you (2) Avalon 60GH mini's for 4.5btc/ea shipped FREE domestically east of the mississippi. PM me if interested.

i'll pay 4.5btc for both
1173  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [28 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool on: November 02, 2013, 02:39:00 PM
hetzner network was screwed for about 15m, if anyone reads this that was mining on my pool or some other one located on hetzner network

oh, and luck over the last 3 days has been good if you include 266856 and onwards  Grin

5 blocks in 76 hours, estimated time is 14hr30m but that's with 32.9 thash, and the average over the last 76 hours is probably more like 29-30thash...  jaja

btw: whoever is using p2pool.org:9332 and paying 2% for 75% efficiency... stop!
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: A Complete Guide to P2Pool - Merged Mining (BTC/NMC/DVC/IXC/I0C) plus LTC, Linux on: November 02, 2013, 02:33:12 PM
smileandgo.de:9332

I hate that interface.  =p

The tables are all messed up, so it's hard to see.

.. but, yeah, you did get zero.. surprising.  I can tell because of the little dot on the share chart for 1Nkvy9srMWF6Aji1jp8aCVBXe8osKRoDzE (otherwise I'd just think the whole interface was screwed) ... so I think your server did find a share, just not for you?

The 'local share' field is just empty for me.

1175  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: How profitable is it to operate a mining pool? on: November 02, 2013, 11:38:13 AM
A lot.
only  for some

like btcguild for example started out with a 0% fee and just took transaction fees, back in 2011.

i have no clue when/how they changed their fee structure, but they probably bumped it to 1% first before going to 2% or 3% or whatever.  this way, people won't change pools

why?  some really have no clue as to what's going on regardless (probably the majority of these never mined before ASICs), some would rather give btcguild 3% then waste time reconfiguring everything, and some seem to think that since btcguild solves more blocks, that means they make more than some 0-1% fee pool that solves 1/2 as many.

i lose money running my p2pool, i haven't mined on it seriously for about 4 months & it consumes resources on that server (to the extent that I've picked up a second server for encoding video, and, well, torrenting).  i assume it also may be the reason i've been null routed from ddos attacks a few times in the last 6 months... or that could have been the "hub node" list on blockchain.info & people actually thinking it'd reduce the network hashrate or something.   i don't have blockchain on my addnode list and they don't connect to me anymore, so that's not a problem at least.

i recall having some discussions with drharibo about it, but i'm pretty sure bitminter was essentially break even or so until he increased his fee from 0 to 1%.   not a whole lot of people donate willingly

(err, forgot to add, but, yeah, these places that take 2-3% or more... quite a bit, if they're active)
1176  Other / Archival / Re: Mining pools list on: November 02, 2013, 11:29:34 AM
Please paste /update the following pool in your Pool List

European Multicoin Pool

Website: p2pool.eu.com                       
Pool Fee: 1% for the Author, 0% for the Pool
Pay Tx reward: yes
Variable difficulty: Dynamic
Local work:   Stratum
Pay orphans: No
ASIC ready: Yes
Merged mining: No

p2pools are just blanket listed as 'p2pool', there's a separate thread for p2pool servers, if you want to post it there
1177  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Mint Race #5: Win a KnC Jupiter 550 GH/s ASIC device! on: November 02, 2013, 09:59:50 AM
highest I've ever gotten was ~350m  Sad

well, after I started using cgminer, anyway

didn't pay attention to blocks solved before that
1178  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Butterflylabs little single 30GH on: November 02, 2013, 09:56:25 AM
what can i say, one born every minute etc

i'd advise the seller not to take paypal on such curiously high offers
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: A Complete Guide to P2Pool - Merged Mining (BTC/NMC/DVC/IXC/I0C) plus LTC, Linux on: November 02, 2013, 07:56:22 AM
Hy,

i mine now for 5 days with 14 GHs. And i become no shares in the p2pool network... so i think  p2pool is not for little miners.
A friendly user from the german part of bitcointalk mine with 450 GHs on my node . about 20, 30 min. to create a share, to show, that my node can make shares Wink
To become shares a miner needs 100 GHs.. or more...

So i let open my node. but i dont mine on the network...
14ghash should get you around 2 a day

i think

i didnt get a batch 1 avalon, so i havent mined in a long ass time


i mine now 5 days.... no share... so i give up on mining in p2pool, yesterday.
The p2pool share is to high for a little miner....

Why collect the node all shares an create a p2pool share? And when the become the btc on the node btc address, they split it when its higher then 0.10 or 1 week old, to the miner based on there shares to the node.



you said you left open your node.. what's the IP?  5 days with nothing would be some extremely low % chance of happening at reported hashing rate
1180  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Get your ASIC now! on: November 01, 2013, 05:34:02 PM
Quote

We aren't saying we don't need your great hardware and pricing.  We're saying it looks too good to be true.  Hardware like this would have made it to the market already unless this project is maintained by a pac.

Anyway. It looks too good to be true. Lets see some more evidence of satisfied customers.  But that's difficult due to your low quantity of items.

Low quantity is just because we have just started this project. I had to sell my own miner for less than I could get - simply to get at least one feedback...

Anyway tomorrow I will talk with my guys about closing of the project, but I really hope, that buyer of my miner is from this community...


sure,

i'll buy these:

BFL BitForce 60Gh/s - USED
$ 825
Location: US
Shipping: US
Q-ty: 2 items

but not for $825 each, that's absurd price

i'll give you $1000 for them both, you ship here first, then i pay.  you can look at my trust feedback

thanks
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