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1221  Economy / Services / Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform on: October 24, 2013, 11:46:49 AM
Is anyone else experiencing problem in fetching data from BTC-e?
My bot is unable to do so in the last hours (MtGox and Bitstamp still work correctly).

really?  the website itself (bitstamp) has been down for about 10m
1222  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Solo question - will blocks be accepted? basic BTC question. on: October 23, 2013, 09:33:14 PM
clocks arent synchronized?
1223  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [100 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + UserDiff; ASIC tested on: October 23, 2013, 09:27:21 PM
uhm invalid blocks happen because they are orphaned or someone else was first, not much can be done to resolve this Tongue

Better connected/faster servers reduce it a lot.  3 orphans in 24 hours is seems extremely high given the size of the pool.  Orphan rates should be <1%.  Obviously a given sample may have much more than 1% just due to lack of # of rounds being evaluated.  Maybe organofcorti can shed some light on the probabilities.

EDIT:  2 of the 3 orphans were never even seen by Blockchain.info...that points to serious server issues.  These blocks were either never broadcast, or were broadcast well after the prior block (meaning no connected peers accepted it and rebroadcasted).  The timestamp on 265441 was more than 1 minute after the competing block was seen by Blockchain.info.  The timestamp on 265419 was almost 4 minutes after.  This may not be the real delay due to ntime rolling/slush's poold configuration/where the table get it's timestamp from.  But those are both blocks that were not even seen by the rest of the network apparently.

Yeah, none of them show up on my log. 

No clue what happened with those... from what I've seen over the last 18 months or so, Slush very rarely gets orphans.

I did notice this:

2013-10-23 19:22:43 received block 00000000000000051a828b0196663b7b82f33d9ec386e9da0a7d12c36f7c051b
2013-10-23 19:22:43 SetBestChain: new best=00000000000000051a828b0196663b7b82f33d9ec386e9da0a7d12c36f7c051b  height=265588  log2_work=73.094444  tx=25887076  date=2013-10-23 19:22:38 progress=0.999999
2013-10-23 19:22:55 received block 00000000000000051a828b0196663b7b82f33d9ec386e9da0a7d12c36f7c051b
2013-10-23 19:22:55 ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 265588 00000000000000051a828b0196663b7b82f33d9ec386e9da0a7d12c36f7c051b
2013-10-23 19:24:29 received block 00000000000000051a828b0196663b7b82f33d9ec386e9da0a7d12c36f7c051b
2013-10-23 19:24:29 ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 265588 00000000000000051a828b0196663b7b82f33d9ec386e9da0a7d12c36f7c051b

this earlier block is more like it usually is:

2013-10-22 15:59:49 received block 000000000000000a53c17f3837f4a9b058eff44a8e0691074253214db196496b
2013-10-22 15:59:49 SetBestChain: new best=000000000000000a53c17f3837f4a9b058eff44a8e0691074253214db196496b  height=265348  log2_work=73.054409  tx=25822202  date=2013-10-22 15:59:43 progress=1.000000
2013-10-22 15:59:50 received block 000000000000000a53c17f3837f4a9b058eff44a8e0691074253214db196496b
2013-10-22 15:59:50 ERROR: ProcessBlock() : already have block 265348 000000000000000a53c17f3837f4a9b058eff44a8e0691074253214db196496b
1224  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoins you are holding *NO TROLLING on: October 23, 2013, 09:00:11 PM
Ok thanks to all the normal comments about 4-5 in total lol..
the next question is are you using the coins (gambling, playing, trading on MTgox or btc-e to make more?)
or keeping them for future investment (waiting for it to rise so you can buy the world Tongue)

i am keeping them and waiting them to rise  Roll Eyes

i'm waiting to send some of mine to someone, once i get an address to send to

the other bit will be sold asap
1225  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: No mining hardware is worth buying on: October 23, 2013, 05:14:50 PM
Who cares of ROI... My rigs are bought with cash... From poker. Now I have good money. Poker is illigal in my country. BTC is not. So my pokerwinnings are now good. I am happy to pay tax...

oh, it's banned in norway?  online poker isn't banned in the USA, just funding it is. 

i thought USA + Australia were the only two countries with restrictions...

norway is member of WTO since 1995, same as US.  were they forced to pay up millions in concessions to antigua as well?
1226  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What pools have you been used? on: October 23, 2013, 04:57:54 PM
bitcoinpool, eclipsemc, maxbtc, hhtt, a couple times on bitminter, and p2pool

oh, i'm not mining currently.  if i was, i'd be using p2pool.  >100% efficiency and no fees
1227  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many bitcoins you are holding *NO TROLLING on: October 23, 2013, 04:58:23 AM
about 1.2
1228  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [300 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + TooDiff; ASIC what? on: October 23, 2013, 04:56:22 AM
I've got a Saturn, 278gh steady as a rock, and most importantly running on Slush.
(I'm making about 0.026-0.030 per round with this device.)

It shipped on Oct 15th as promised, arrived here in Canada on the 18th.
One fan was popped off during shipping which is the norm.

It came with 0.95, I reflashed it with 0.96 firmware...no difference as far as I can tell.

I think they could do a lot better with the firmware, and I can't wait to see what the talented guys at CGMiner and BFGMiner can do with their software on these boxes.

I think if you order now you will be in the negative in terms of making money with these to be honest.
I won't get all my money back in terms of coins either really, but I have my own reasons for buying a miner instead of buying bitcoins.

Anything else in particular you'd like to know?


that is almost exactly what I was making with my BFL 30Gh/s just under 2 months ago when I got it. much less now of course.
I am thinking about KNC Jupiter, but it should be useless in a two months after delivery... who knows.

If the exchange rate stays stable or continues to rise as it is at the moment, then mining is still ok.

Yeah.... why is btc rising?!!? with SR gone why are people willing to pay so much for BTC and what are they buying... very odd stuff going on
$194 today

I don't see an answer, so

google bitcoin baidu
1229  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Miner's fee a barrier to mass adoption on: October 23, 2013, 03:48:08 AM
So, let's say bitcoin is worth $1,000,000. To send a hundred satoshis, is it still going to cost me many hundreds of times that much in transaction fees? Off-chain only for transactions < $50,000?  Huh

obviously the fee isn't something that's going to remain static

also, individual pools/miners can change it if they like, just as i've changed it from ed: 0.0001 to 0.0005.  if it was worth $1,000,000, i'd adjust it to much less

the main point is to keep spam like horse staple  battery from being kept in your tx pool
1230  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Blockchain.info 650 Watts per gigahash - reasonable figure? on: October 22, 2013, 10:36:03 PM
Blockchain.info has a stat for mining profitability based on electricity consumption of 650 watts per gigahash. This seems like a high figure to me in the age of ASICs. What would be a reasonable figure to use, based on ASIC machines currently in use? (as opposed to vapour-ware promised for next year).
 
I wrote to them complained about it a month ago. No reply. The figure is 6-8 mths out of date. The energy is down to a few percent of that. 650Watt is a GPU rig figure.



Yeah even if some use gpus for heat you may have free electricity but not free heat so running a gpu would make sense in the winter.

   Most hashing is asic   the number should be under 20 watts

The 650W is based on easily obtained. You know the scams on the forum, especially,the most imfamous butterfly. Before I do more seriously, I bought 7970 to test out. Even fail At last, can be for other usage such as drawing. The ASIC cannot suit for as if there was no alternative nor improved one, it is just waiting to be broken.

Don't even bother anymore, but, say, back in March or April, I'd look for cheap 7770+ on slickdeals and buy, do rebate, sell games... mined with them from about 2 weeks to 3 months (depending on when I bought it)...  but even now could sell them for about same value as they cost when bought new.   

eg; the two 7790's I got for around $75/ea after doing rebate + selling game/app they came with
1231  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Bitcoin mining profitability calculator on: October 22, 2013, 12:44:51 PM
www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator     is what i've used for the last 1/2 a year or so

doesn't have all the fancy stuff
1232  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: transaction fee on: October 22, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
mcxnow txfees are 0.001, which is very high, but get's sent through very quickly

Too high, I did rather it get sent through slower Smiley

the standard fee is 0.0001

0.001 is a bit bizarre

i have my client configured to accept only 0.0005, i can't imagine any pools requiring higher.  most (if not all) just use standard config on tx fees?

with 10 blocks per hour,  you don't really have to worry about a backlog... like, say, 6 months ago
1233  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS USA] Avalon Minis on: October 22, 2013, 12:36:44 PM
it's good these people that are buying for 5BTC aren't posting in thread

it'll be making 30% less in about 4 days
1234  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: KnCminer Saturn 250gh for sale on: October 22, 2013, 12:31:49 PM
From a point of view (provided that you can find 60GH/s @ 6BTC nowadays) a fair price for this h/w would be 24-26BTC. On the other hand this machine will make you 0.5BTC per day, with current difficulty and average luck factor which -as you may be aware of- will pop (once more) rocket high in less than a week.

My guess is that a price of 16-18BTC would be what the OP should be asking for (and have a chance getting it).

looks like close to 50%

i don't get why ppl are pricing these so ridiculously high, when difficulty is about to go from 267m to something like 380m, possibly higher. 

i came up with something around 15BTC myself
1235  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs - 60ghs - In Hand for sale on: October 22, 2013, 12:26:51 PM
I`ll offer 4 BTC.

The price your given, is based on rising difficulties and other machines being added everyday to the network with the Terra Hash.

I can go on being more detailed, but there are existing forum posts about everything.

Prices on BFL, are deflated based on more requirements for performance. Anyone mining needs a minimum of 3-4 singles.


blast, and here i was about to go out on a limb with a 3.5
1236  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Solo question - will blocks be accepted? basic BTC question. on: October 22, 2013, 10:03:36 AM
Probably more important than latency is the number of nodes your daemon is talking to.  Forwarding port 8333 inbound to your daemon will increase the connection count above 8.  When I ran solo, I announced blocks through 50-90 nodes at a time.



might also be worth using add node to connect to a few supernodes such as blockchain.info and a few off there lists.
the hub node list on there isn't that great anymore, since it has some new bizarre connection methods.  it hasn't connected to my node @ 5.9.24.81 in over two weeks, even though i keep 300-700 outgoing connections (depending on if i'm doing something else or not)

plus #1 on its list doesn't even forward blocks or do transaction verification, afaik.  can correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't checked the bitpeer project for a couple months

i think lukejr's list is better luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/seeds.txt, just ignore the nodes that aren't 0.8.4 or higher.

you only need a handful or so of connections.  so should probably have like 10 connects set up, since sometimes ppl get ddos'ed or go down for whatever other reason


1237  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Mining internet bandwidth usage? on: October 22, 2013, 09:57:54 AM
you didn't say you were running bitcoind/bitcoinqt (or w/e) before, wtf.

you can still run it, just turn off listen, change maxconnections to 2 or 3, and use connect= in the conf file to some good nodes.  then you'll never have your upstream saturated by ppl downloading blockchain
1238  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Used Radeon HD 5830 on: October 22, 2013, 01:19:49 AM
will take .25 btc including shipping to the US. if anyone is interested

if you can, eBay it

5830, 5850, and 5870 prices on there are absurd, even after taking 10-15% fees

if you are selling more than 2, you should open a $20 shop
1239  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 3x BFL SC 60GH/s on: October 22, 2013, 01:17:00 AM
the thing thats pretty hilarious about ebay is all the fees.... I bet in the end the price comes out to being similar.

the final price fee for electronics is like 5% less if you have a $20/mo shop

though I will say that I was able to sell some video cards on amazon and actually make a profit, due to their 'expected shipping cost'
1240  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS USA] Avalon Minis on: October 22, 2013, 01:12:19 AM
yes, probably will be the price in 3 weeks
i think that's more like the price is today

in 3 weeks it'll probably be 1.5
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