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just a fyi i guess, i'm getting over 600 incoming connections to my quarkcoin mining port (the vast majority from two subnets), so I imagine some botnet is "probably" at work
though i'm just going to let it keep running until/if it crashes. i've got other things going on right now (re: gall bladder removed like three days ago, jaja) and it's fairly interesting to see how much it can handle anyway
plus it's better than being DDoS'ed
anyhow, i dropped my # of bitcoind connections about 400, so it's down to 900 open TCP sockets right now. if it crashes/drops offline/gets DDoS'ed it'lll probably be down for at least 12hrs
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blame the idiots dumping coins like this for the latest shitcoin.. cryptsy has been showing a steady decline in QRK from 300 to 175 last i checked and i holding mine and have bought more occasionally even though i can't mine this coin anymore since two halves ago roughly  once again the crowd roars in and makes it nearly impossible for me to get anything at all mining and they don't care.. pump and dump and leave the corpse and bag holders in their wake. getting to the point where i may have to just join em.. i see no choice why have integrity or look at these coins as anything more than an opportunity to scam and weazle and flash-premine and ponzi scheme your way to the top why support ANY coin ? we might as well just dump the hell out of the coin on exchange day one after we pre-flashed mined the hell out of it and then move on to the next childish retarded gimmick scamcoin. i think i'm going to consider dumping my quark and moving on, there is no point in trying to compete in the market with sleaze bags fuck it might as well join em :/ and yeah i'm serious too I blame it on Cryptsy's Autosell feature. It has caused the coins to go in the shitter cause nobody can actually pump up a coin and keep it up. You pump it, next day it is either back down to same level you started at or lower. The autosell is Cryptsy's way to get more fees. Oh, guess that's the reason for someone selling 15 quarkcoins every couple minutes? haha. |
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Is QaUvy4dK1rycXtpzmTKuVUFfu7sSVQ8xKb an actual pool?
I guess Quarkcoins is susceptible to botnets + I've been thinking maybe there's someone mining off of GPUs or something =p
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Just curious; any of you guys holding AMD stock?
Not any more. I held AMD for a long time but Intel is a ruthless competitor. I began buying AMD back in the 90s and continued through the end of the decade. For a while things looked bright but post 2002 AMD has struggled and that is more to due to Intel then any failure at AMD. I sold out the last of my relatively large position in the mid 2000s. The situation has only gotten worse since then. As much as I like AMD the company I would not recommend anyone buy AMD the stock. Intel is just very good at what they do and being "second best" is a bad spot to be in. With NVidia and AMD/ATI they trade top spot back and forth. However for pretty much the last decade Intel has been solidly on top. Gone are the P4 days where they were sloppy and chips were overpriced. Today they are a full process node ahead of AMD, their "tick tock" strategy has been solid for a half dozen product upgrades, and they can manipulate margins to squeeze AMD out. Intel can build chips cheaper than AMD and they simply set the price points of various models in the lineup to minimize AMD margins. Intel pricing isn't just to maximize current dollars for Intel but also to prevent AMD from gaining the resources necessary to become a better competitor in the future. I doubt Intel will ever risk AMD going bankrupt (monopoly investigations) but they have essentially cornered AMD into a lower margin, lower share business. Given Intel will keep AMD alive if I absolutely had to put money into AMD it would be AMD corporate bonds. In the GPU space AMD buying ATI was pure genius and well timed however there is less and less need for more and more CPU cores so expect more "CPU" die space to be devoted to GPU. As on die GPU become better and better is squezes the discrete graphics market. Not many people know this but Intel has 70%+ of the GPU space. All low end but the low end is getting better. To link back to the OP all the GPU are a rounding error for AMD annual sales. Total GPU mining was ~25 TH/s. Lets be generous and say that ended up costing ~$1 per MH/s (GPU cost only). So we are talking $25M in GPU sales directly due to mining. Now some of those were existing sales converted to mining but lets ignore that. Still $25M isn't in one year, GPU mining has been going on for three years, so say ~$8M annually is increased sales. AMD average sales for the last three years were $5.8B annually. So we are talking <0.2% of gross sales. Now hypothetically if ASIC/FPGA were impossible then maybe someday it might have been more important. desktop video card sales are a very small portion of that $5.8B annually you're speaking of |
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like there is ever any issues with goods manufactured in China, pls
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sell the preorders ?
i assume ppl are still paying like 3x+ value on these asics
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blame the idiots dumping coins like this for the latest shitcoin.. cryptsy has been showing a steady decline in QRK from 300 to 175 last i checked and i holding mine and have bought more occasionally even though i can't mine this coin anymore since two halves ago roughly once again the crowd roars in and makes it nearly impossible for me to get anything at all mining and they don't care.. pump and dump and leave the corpse and bag holders in their wake. getting to the point where i may have to just join em.. i see no choice why have integrity or look at these coins as anything more than an opportunity to scam and weazle and flash-premine and ponzi scheme your way to the top why support ANY coin ? we might as well just dump the hell out of the coin on exchange day one after we pre-flashed mined the hell out of it and then move on to the next childish retarded gimmick scamcoin. i think i'm going to consider dumping my quark and moving on, there is no point in trying to compete in the market with sleaze bags fuck it might as well join em :/ and yeah i'm serious too i bought like 1.5 bitcoins worth at 200-210 just for shits, maybe some more later. i guess i sort of consider it 'play money', seeing as how i don't see myself mining bitcoins ever again... well, or even using them, except for this altcoin shenaniganry. not some huge sum anyway, like a handful or two (ed: cause I don't see much point in making $$ for ASIC manufacturers, scratch) |
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I had to take my node offline until I can figure out my network issues. I was sending/receiving WAY to much data for a 50Mbps connection and I was the only one mining. Will probably colo my server in a DC in the near future, not sure yet. I'd also like to point out that I am glad to take any sort of donations, my BTC link is below..  Limit bitcoind's connections? Tried. Granted I was using a home connection w/ 60 Mbps Down 25Mbps Up with bitcoind connections at 20 and p2pool at 10 in and 10 out -- nothing else running. Found a server in Georgia I'm going to be using. It's almost done downloading the block chain right now.. when I was running server on home connection, I just had bitcoind connection to one IP and p2pool connections to 5 or 6.... p2pool used to use a lot more bandwidth than it does now. bitcoind, you only need to be connected to a couple of nodes to get blocks propagated fast. i wouldnt recommend one (ddos, offline, etc), but 3 or 4 should be fine i only have like 1.5Mbps upstream here |
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almost perfect exchange unfotunately so far it is missing one quite important ingredience..... there is no volume.....
and without volume it is quite a problem....
but I must admit that it is well done but they should offer something to attract people and liquidity, I tried to bought several coins but of course so far without success. And I am thinking of sending my funds away....
In this initial period they should offer eg trading of new coins which are not possible to trade anywhere else or low fees or some special news for cryptocoin community otherwise I dont know why I should put my money and enable them liquidity with my funds....
Agree 100 %. The pathetic trade volume is a serious problem. Also, the difficulty has halved over the past 24 hours. In other words, the support from both miners and traders is decreasing fast. Those are very bad signs for the future of Quarkcoin. the trade volume where? it gets plenty of volume on crypsty, https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/71that new exchange has pathetic trade volume, yes |
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Did some benchmarks of the sse4 miner (just took this version https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3047868#msg3047868) on a bunch of Intel Core2 Duo and Ivy bridge, and here comes the great equation. The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3076346#msg3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it. I do not have any AMDs at hand, but it seems they follow "no HT" path for ALL cores ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3021817#msg3021817). Thus, high-frequency AMD FXs are winners in terms of kh per CPU. I am getting 780kh on i7 3770k at 4GHz with HT (8 * 98), while FX 8350 gives 1100kh at 4 GHz (8 * 140). Here power consumption comes into play. For Intel it is ~8kh/watt for IB and ~2kh/watt or less for C2D. Can anyone provide wattage for AMDs (real-world numbers, not from online benchmarks)? Sandy Bridge and Haswell numbers would be usefull as well. Lets make quark hardware comparision table  I have an AMD Sempron 145 Sargas 2.8GHz (single core) w/ "core unlocked" and overclocked a bit (with that motherboard's "OC Genie") that gets about 220khash.. my i7-960 (it's not overclocked, but I have turbomode enabled, so it does that automatically, goes to 3.35ghash or so) can get about 600-620khash/s tops.. i7-4770k is 1mhash+, but well, it costs a lot more than what you'd need for equivalent from AMD CPU oh, *intel e6850 gets around 200khash w/o overclocking err, never got around to this had an emergency visit to the hospital to get my gall bladder removed  i haven't read posts after this yet, so if nothing is still there, i'll try it this weekend |
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The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3076346#msg3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it. I have an AMD Sempron 145 Sargas 2.8GHz (single core) w/ "core unlocked" and overclocked a bit (with that motherboard's "OC Genie") that gets about 220khash.. my i7-960 (it's not overclocked, but I have turbomode enabled, so it does that automatically, goes to 3.35ghash or so) can get about 600-620khash/s tops.. i7-4770k is 1mhash+, but well, it costs a lot more than what you'd need for equivalent from AMD CPU oh, *intel e6850 gets around 200khash w/o overclocking Great, formula seems to work for AMDs too, assuming Sempron 145 runs at 3+GHz. Can you measure wattage for Sempron, stock and overclocked? Haswell seems to be a different story. I'll check it out tomorrow (or later tonight if I get time) w/ the kill-a-watt.... guess I'll check the e-6850 while I'm at it as well.. i added a symbolic link to the p2pool logfile for this (like I have for bitcoin), it's at www.nogleg.com/quark.log ... it gets rather lengthy & is cleaned somewhat regularly (things to look for: got share and got block) oh, i have the min fee on my quarkcoind set to 0.0001, so it doesn't pick up a lot of transactions. err, mostly just my own (i voluntarily add some 0.0005).... also, ignore the occasional '> Block submittal result: False (u'rejected') Expected: True'... unsure why that pops up sometime, re: the block at 22:50:34.586803 submitted fine; http://176.221.46.81/block/000000004b668e46df09835a6df571a082b4a9ad9514f36ed0dda1e9b89fa51f time is CST, UTC -5 (current payout shows the payout to my address, from colonel sanders and hamburglar) |
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Did some benchmarks of the sse4 miner (just took this version https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3047868#msg3047868) on a bunch of Intel Core2 Duo and Ivy bridge, and here comes the great equation. The hashrate is a linear frequency function (what a rocket science). For quark algo just divide frequency by 27.5 for no HT, or by 40 for HT to estimate Khashes PER THREAD. If you run less threads than CPUs on HT, the number is somewhere in between. E.g. for 3 threads on 4-thread CPU or 6 threads on 8-thread CPU it is ~35, see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3076346#msg3076346. It would be nice if various CPU owners will try the formula and prove or disprove it. I do not have any AMDs at hand, but it seems they follow "no HT" path for ALL cores ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3021817#msg3021817). Thus, high-frequency AMD FXs are winners in terms of kh per CPU. I am getting 780kh on i7 3770k at 4GHz with HT (8 * 98), while FX 8350 gives 1100kh at 4 GHz (8 * 140). Here power consumption comes into play. For Intel it is ~8kh/watt for IB and ~2kh/watt or less for C2D. Can anyone provide wattage for AMDs (real-world numbers, not from online benchmarks)? Sandy Bridge and Haswell numbers would be usefull as well. Lets make quark hardware comparision table I have an AMD Sempron 145 Sargas 2.8GHz (single core) w/ "core unlocked" and overclocked a bit (with that motherboard's "OC Genie") that gets about 220khash.. my i7-960 (it's not overclocked, but I have turbomode enabled, so it does that automatically, goes to 3.35ghash or so) can get about 600-620khash/s tops.. i7-4770k is 1mhash+, but well, it costs a lot more than what you'd need for equivalent from AMD CPU oh, *intel e6850 gets around 200khash w/o overclocking |
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I think it would also be important for the pools to list their bitcoind limitations.
Some p2pools are configured to limit transactions drastically on the Bitcoin network and thus are bad for Bitcoin.
hmm, that'd actually be nice if p2pool pulled the bitcoind information on maxblocksize, fees, etc and posted it on the web page somewhere How about I put in a paragraph on the P2Pool guide. Also, some things are best left untouched. gmaxwell and I had this conversation via IRC the other day that 'less is more' in terms of -flags and arguments, because those are put there mostly for situations that would require tweaking, where as most people shouldn't need to change much if any at all. But if you all want, I'll add a paragraph about this all in the initial post and link to the P2Pool Guide. If you read the p2pool thread, it's not rare for people to change these settings ... so a comment about it is rather pointless. zvs's idea is actually the best suggestion I've heard. ... gmaxwell's comments are clearly pointless if that's was all he came up with ... I guess you could add a flag when starting p2pool to 'hide' that info if you want to (some boolean), not really sure why it would bother anyone, but.. |
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I think i will try to use p2pool now. Hopefully getting merged mining with all coins that bitparking is using to run and be able to set up coins that appear on coinchoose too. Maybe even possible to merge mine with other coins than bitcoin. Im not sure if thats easily possible.
What kind of server would you rent? I mean is a VPS safe enough or whats the best thing? I dont have a computer running all the time but my miners do. And im not sure if its a good idea to install p2pool on the raspi...
http://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/kimsufi_2g.xmlthe ks-2g could run one adequately, but that, the ks-4g and the ks-16g are sold out you can get an adequate server on hetzner too, via the robot bidding: https://robot.your-server.de/order/marketi think you may already need a hetzner account, though. those prices include 19% VAT i've kept the whole blockchain in RAM, but it's not a big deal anymore a vps would probably be OK if you can find one with, uh, 25GB? |
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Using: https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminerE3-1230 (quad-core, HT) 90khash per thread, 540khash on six of eight threads. i5-3570S (quad-core) 130khash per thread, 400khash on three of four threads. i7-3770S (quad-core, HT) 80khash per thread, 520khash on six of eight threads. Xeon X3440 (quad-core, HT) 66khash per thread, 400khash on six of eight threads. i3-2130 (dual-core, HT) 100khash per thread, 300khash on three of four threads. you should be able to get faster on the i7-3770s my i7-960 gets 600khash on 8 threads (on turbomode), i7-4770k gets like 1mhash if it gets to 100oC it'll start to throttle itself 100C? thats a horrible cooling system... right, but i know that's when i7's start to throttle, pretty sure it's the same for i5's and i3's |
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Using: https://github.com/uncle-bob/quarkcoin-cpuminerE3-1230 (quad-core, HT) 90khash per thread, 540khash on six of eight threads. i5-3570S (quad-core) 130khash per thread, 400khash on three of four threads. i7-3770S (quad-core, HT) 80khash per thread, 520khash on six of eight threads. Xeon X3440 (quad-core, HT) 66khash per thread, 400khash on six of eight threads. i3-2130 (dual-core, HT) 100khash per thread, 300khash on three of four threads. you should be able to get faster on the i7-3770s my i7-960 gets 600khash on 8 threads (on turbomode), i7-4770k gets like 1mhash if it gets to 100oC it'll start to throttle itself |
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Price is down.  i havent even looked tbh... what exchanges actually deal with quarkcoins? ive sold off all my gfx cards but never bothered with the motherboards + cpus, etc.. doesnt use near as much electricity, either... so i figured what the hell |
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What's the current pool in which payments occur? As I and some other people in this forum had some problems about the payouts.
On p2pools it will take a bit of time until payments begin, and they sometimes will stop and resume one or two hours later (at least with my measly 250kH). I think that's the intended behaviour, maybe Neisklar can inform us about it. If you got no payouts over a larger amount of time on a p2pool, tell us plz. Also note that there seems to be a bug in the payout graph, e.g. i am on the payout list but my payout graph shows nothing. It shouldn't take very long at all for payments to begin.... well, maybe at 250kh on the 100mh pool I just looked at the source and the default settings are for it to gravitate towards 4 shares per minute... so, if you're on a pool that's at 100mh/s and are at 250kh, you would average 1 share every 100 minutes (I think the math is right on that). there is this: http://176.221.46.81:8372/static/ that is 131mhash, http://qrkpool.tk:8868/static/ that is 50mhash, and http://nogleg.com:8372/static/ that is 25mhash.. the 1st has a fee of 3%, the 2nd is 1%, and the 3rd is 0% (use the /fee option, i.e. 176.221.46.81:8372/fee) i'm sure there are a bunch of others now too. at 250kh you would be better off using a pool, not solo mining. use a smaller pool if you think the payout variation is too great |
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I don't understand, what % of that is bitfury, the individual, - who if he wants to at ALL, is the person and soon to be a billionaire's chips?
Nobody can ever match the owner of the ASIC for $/gh
all chips you buy are marked up several orders of magnitude in $/chip
indeed that's why i havent bought any asics the only exceptions would be rd 1 and (i think?) rd 2 of avalon. rd 1 was cheap because it was insanely speculative |
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