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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Levelcoin - Proof of Stake / Proof of Burn Hybrid - Inflation Immune on: February 04, 2014, 11:59:04 AM
Despite all the negativity of being scammed, I prefer to watch at the half-full of the glass.
The OP gave a great idea, and there are at least 2 teams working on a new implementation of it (announcements will probably follow soon).

I do think that it will be a great idea to compensate any "suckers" in any of these 2 coins, provided there is a solid proof a person has indeed invested in LevelCoin.
1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Levelcoin - Proof of Stake / Proof of Burn Hybrid - Inflation Immune on: February 03, 2014, 07:22:26 PM
So, now that 3 days have passed since the IPO is over, and nothing heard from the author, I guess it safe to conclude it was a scam?

If so, I'm surprised that there are still no negative trust ratings assigned to the LevelCoin and LeoC users.
1163  Other / Archival / Re: Counterparty (XCP) Buy/Sell Thread with Google Doc on: February 03, 2014, 12:17:28 PM
WtS 3000 XCP at 0.01, please add in order book.
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 03, 2014, 12:12:47 PM
By the way, I have a question - how exactly XCP will support paying in BTC for asset or XCP?

The offered BTC will be matched to offers on asset/Dex, and once the buyer sends the bTC to seller address, the seller will then send back XCP or asset shares back to the buyer BTC address?
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 03, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
What is MPSTOCK? Why is it so expensive? 2000 XCP/MPSTOCK!!!

http://blockscan.com/order.aspx?q=2866

See http://blockscan.com/assetInfo.aspx?q=MPTSTOCK (MoneypakTrader.com)

Which is also linked to the richest single XCP account. Looks like he issued an asset MPTSTOCK and repurchased the assets with XCP making this the richest account http://blockscan.com/address.aspx?q=1FCkCQCnEtHQ3j7NqdkAnkqQUvqfti4XoA

Cheers

What was the point of that? To hide any XCP sends from other accounts?
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: February 03, 2014, 11:43:47 AM
To be fair XCP was also a hurry launch, counterpartyd code can barely held together. Their approach is to release alpha product and let users test with real xcp. Reference client shouldn't be done in python as library dependency issues, plus it's not type safe, the client has been crashing many times due to runtime exceptions, silly bugs, etc. I hope the community help rebuilding it as something self-contained like a jar package.

While you have some points, do remember that Python allows a very rapid prototyping of concepts. In fact, BTC itself was prototyped in Python first.
So while in the long term, switching to any typesafe language is definitely preferable, for testing the concepts Python will do just well.
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: February 03, 2014, 11:03:28 AM
As you already pointed above, they talked too much (media presence, conference talk, ...) but there're much less real work on coding (there's not even official mastercoind) be done. All real codes are come from the community (Mastercoin-explorer, ...). Neither JR nor Ron is a professional programmer, and yet they decided to recruit full time developers only on last December.

Just a correction to above, both are professional and experienced developers, holding advanced CS degrees. I don't know J.R. personally, but I can attest that Ron has a rich resume (including position at Google), so it would be incorrect to label them as such.

Management is a bit different animal, and while it indeed took them a little time to get started, I expect that competition with XCP and other 2nd gen's will only be for the benefit of the MSC community.

I prefer to think of MSC as long-term start-up, similar in it's approach to Google, which prefers long term revenues over short-term gains, stably increasing the MSC price over time. Time will tell how well this approach works in the frenzied crypto world.
1168  Other / Archival / Re: Counterparty (XCP) Buy/Sell Thread with Google Doc on: February 02, 2014, 10:41:53 PM
Just a warning to buyers: XCP burners (basically early adopters) have formed a cartel (chk xcp thread) and jacked up the price artificially by 10x-15x times. Please don't accept these prices as the coin is still a prototype and isn't worth that much yet. They are a greedy cartel

You are welcome to address Nxt thread with these accusations, they will be more correct there.

XCP is one of the most fairest distribution to the moment, with a very small amount of majority holders, according to taint analysis:
https://blockchain.info/taint/1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVr

Speaking of the XCP itself, it already provides much more then anything promised by competition at the moment.

It's a true BTC - spirit community driven effort, and it will only pick up in steam.
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 02, 2014, 10:32:59 PM
So is there a way/place/thread to buy and sell XCP/BTC ? Or are we going to setup a google doc now like early days of mastercoin ? Should we set it up now that the burn is over ?
Do people need to run the counterpartyD to send XCP ? I assume they don't need it to recieve XCP.

I guess we can contact pouncer or maxmint, they already have experience running the order book and doing escrows for MSC.
1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 02, 2014, 10:23:39 PM
I think you're wrong:

MSC: $128,000,000 marketcap / 560,000 coins = $228/coin

XCP: $128,000,000 marketcap / 2,650,000 coins = $48/coin

Assuming the same initial marketcap.

So we already can say, XCP is the silver of MSC (while actually delivering working code already)?
1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 02, 2014, 10:20:19 PM


You sir, are a genius Smiley!
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN][FTR] FutureCoin – Initial Investment Period! – Descendant of Nxt on: February 02, 2014, 05:34:18 PM
Are there any guarantees you will release anything, if ever?
People really should look at latest "IPO's" that caused a lot of investors to loose their money.


Also, what prevents from anyone to take the Nxt code and issue same coin as FTR?
1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 02, 2014, 05:21:13 PM
Guys, just a reminder, if anyone can contribute to our our desktop GUI bounty, please do.

The address is 12J1YFvsWHDCU5HNAWNLNy1Q9nZo8Q4Xgs

We currently are up to around 6.4 BTC and ~1680 XCP.

BTC: https://blockchain.info/address/12J1YFvsWHDCU5HNAWNLNy1Q9nZo8Q4Xgs
XCP: http://blockscan.com/balance.aspx?q=12J1YFvsWHDCU5HNAWNLNy1Q9nZo8Q4Xgs

Bumping, this GUI alone will increase the XCP value once released, so every XCP holders should donate!
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: February 02, 2014, 05:16:17 PM
That guy burned on 30 different addresses, issued a stock from this 1FCk address, and used the XCP from 30 addresses to buy that stock he issued. So all the XCP accumulated to 1FCk.

I wonder why going all this way, instead of just sending all addresses balance under a single account?

Also, how did he manage to issue same asset twice?
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: February 02, 2014, 08:33:47 AM
Answering legitimate concern with mockery? Fanboy, troll, or shill ingsoc? Your data is also incorrect.  There were many more original investors. You'd know that if you actually bothered to check.

https://blockchain.info/address/1BCN1ugdKdWd9pQ8Am9hMhtHZfmbXzxE8a?offset=0&filter=0 

Reading this thread I feel compelled to quote our old friend Lando Calrissian, "This deal keeps getting worse all the time".

Actually, the original investors addresses are hard-coded into NXT genesis block, and they around ~70 indeed AFAIK.
1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: January 30, 2014, 04:49:58 PM
Not sure if it makes a difference, but you checked for extra spaces due to copy/paste?
Otherwise recheck the key, privkey starts with a 5
I think that you must also use a label that is not already in use in your wallet, but not sure

Found it - the export drop-list had base 56 selected by default, instead of Bitcoin-QT Smiley.

By the way, is scan time really necessary? Perhaps next time it better to import with scan false?
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: January 30, 2014, 04:33:43 PM
Try to do this following this guide:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B

But getting this error for every private key I tried:
Invalid private key (code -5)

Ideas?
Did you unlock your wallet before importing?
Walletpassphrase PASSWORD 600 (Will unlock it for 10 minutes)
Importprivkey PRIVATEKEY LABELFORADDRESS
[/quote]

Yes, still getting this error every time.
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol, Client and Coin (built on Bitcoin) - Official on: January 30, 2014, 04:23:50 PM
If I burned XCP on separate address (but same wallet) on blockchain info, is there any way to export only this address private key?

Or the only way for me is to export the whole wallet then import into Bitcoin-QT?

Thanks.

There is. If I recall from memory, you simply click on import/export and look for the unencrypted/plaintext export option and copy and past the private key corresponding to your public key/address.

Try to do this following this guide:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B

But getting this error for every private key I tried:
Invalid private key (code -5)

Ideas?
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty Protocol - Bounties? After the Burn? on: January 30, 2014, 11:49:35 AM
Speaking on behalf of myself and not the Counterparty team, I think that community voting as to the prioritization of bounties becomes a bit complicated and may ultimately lead to an - ironically - slower issuance of bounties. In my opinion, community members should make recommendations to the Counterparty Team for which bounties to issue, and, then, if the Counterparty Team agrees with the recommendation, it should post a donation address and the length of the bounty-period.

If a community member proposes a bounty to the Counterparty Team, which, for whatever reason, the Counterparty Team doesn't feel is a priority, he should feel free to issue his own bounties, but this bounty will be independent of those issued by the Counterparty team.

+1, just see for example what Nxt voting turned into - dozens of discussion pages without concrete actions.

So far XCP team had a good grasp of priorities, so it's reasonable to trust them on this. And if they miss something - raising private bounty should be also easy.
1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Levelcoin - Proof of Stake / Proof of Burn Hybrid - Inflation Immune on: January 29, 2014, 09:37:28 PM
Some analysis on the whole level idea at a different coin thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422052.msg4744448#msg4744448

Interesting analysis, though I would find it more credible without intervened personal attacks on Nex creator.

Levelcoin, I wonder what your opinion on this danger of constant inflation?
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