Which is why I suggested getting community feedback before making decisions. What we're seeing now is the devs changing the rules during the middle of the pre-sale because they're listening to investors who are only looking out for their own self interest. They don't care about the coin or the community. Only themselves. This is a dangerous practice for a dev team.

Investor risk notice: More than 120BTC has been invested in Crypti on Bter.com. Invest with caution!
https://bter.com/trade/CRSALE_BTC
Edit:  Meaning...  why would you provide escrow services and then post a notice like that?!?!?  

Actually I don't understand why you chose bter as escrow, there are potential policy risk in the BTC things in China especially IPO.

I know you are from DEV team,  I read all of your posts, all you can do is call your mother's name.
@all investors , do you really believe a dev team like this can make a good coin?!

I have concern, in case IPO in bter outlawed by China government, we will get our BTC back from you dev team, correct?please answer me directly.

I really think a pre-sale cap will suit investors, you don't want the IPO to become too diluted as no investor will profit out of it. Don't forget you will still have the 15% of the pre sale left for development,  so if you only need 500 BTC from the IPO why not put a cap on it?

EDIT : Don't forget some whale could single handedly drop over 500 BTC into this IPO and render our investments useless. This is the same problem Ethereum faced and they seem to be implementing a cap on their future IPO as well

Thanks for your suggestions, finishing the pre-sale once target hit or the period has ended is indeed an obvious solution that is worth considering and I will raise it to our discussion.

It really doesn't look good to change the rules after things have started though. ;(

What? Important changes in the middle of the pre-sale? You don't know what you want. (Well you know it - money) But can anybody respect your word?

I appreciate the effort your whole team has put into organizing everything. It already looks better than most of the IPO's out there.

As stated before, my only concern is that while you have optimized most of the things fairly well, it seems an important piece is still missing from the IPO puzzle.

The dev team has agreed that 500 btc would cover the necessary requirements for the dev fund fairly well. However, given the situation, I expect Crypti to raise at least between 800-1000 btc. Now it seems obvious that there should be a point where because of too much investment Crypti will be over diluted and over priced, and it will certainly not be good if Crypti would reach that point starting from the IPO. Further more, I think the dev team interest along with the investors interest should be among the most important things to keep in mind while deciding the IPO rules.

That said, I'm not sure why the IPO is set to last one whole month. A better option would be to set a cap of lets say 1000 btc(or whatever reasonable sum you decide) or if the cap is not reached you have an open time limit of 1 month. The idea being that after 1000 btc(or whatever sum) the IPO will go against the best interest of its investors because of over pricing and over dilution. If this should happen, both the early investors and the late investors will suffer in the process. Maybe some kind of upper cap limit(2x-3x of what is actually needed for development) could be proposed and added to ensure a basic safety net for the investors who are looking forward to joining and contributing to the project.

Any thoughts on that?

Will there be +30% for early investors?

So this is not a 1btc = a set amount of crypti right?

It really doesn’t !
What the sell price (that bter posts) for  1 CRSALE will go up by 1% each day or what?
If not how you will figure out when I bought my  CRSALEs?

Can somebody point to the place/post etc. where is explained how the bonus works on bter. It is not in the pre-sale instructions.
 Thanks.

Its way more interesting to make the statement and watch the walls crumble around those who are foolish and those foolish enough to even get used by the developers as a legitimate front. Oh that's you by the way.

Say goodbye to whatever reputation you thought you had...

Yep that's what was said. Although, I don't think it starts reducing until day 21.

You meant a buy order which one could sell into? Sorry i wanted to clear it up

to be explicit, does this mean there will be a buy order at the purchase price which people can sell in to? one which reduces in price over time?

How will the purchase get refunded? Do we have to open a ticket?

Where can i find to steps to buy through bter?

You know this is a scam people, right?
Yes it is I, Gorillajam, finder of scams, defender of the innocent!

I think CoPay is probably the most secure and easiest to use Multi-Sig service. CoPay was developed by BitPay so for me they'll most likely (but not necessarily) be the best built : http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/07/09/copay-beta-an-open-source-multisig-wallet.html

@Devs, please take note that this is only a suggestion, I'm not saying you must must do it, but it would help build a lot of trust from the community

In the efforts of transparency, I believe that the devs could use a Multi-sig wallet like : https://copay.io/ to keep funds raised from the IPO, and include a trusted third party to oversee the transactions and approve transactions & spending of the IPO funds.