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Lulz someone ate up that pathetic sell wall.
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@Dagger
I think we should rebrand PoSa.
Cloakstake?
Well if you look at other coins that have invented something completely new they tend to refer to it, by what it actually is. Bitcoin: proof of work (not bitcoinwork) Peercoin : proof of stake (not peerstake) Fluttercoin : proof of transaction (not fluttertransaction) So it seems to fit best that we create the tech and call it by what it is. Cloakcoin : proof of stake anon (not cloakstake or cloakanon) Ahh gotcha. Still though I think Cloakstake for short sounds better - it just rolls off the tounge easier  "Cloakstake or Proof of Stake Anon" |
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@Dagger
I think we should rebrand PoSa.
Cloakstake?
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Yeah, he was plugging another currency I can see how that could be grounds for removal.
Well I guess he's gone back to the CINNI thread xD
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I see real potential in Cloakcoin. I agree with others it is really refreshing to have such an active developer pushing the development of CLOAK. I just wish the reddit Cloak page http://www.reddit.com/r/cloak refelected the community and support we see in this thread as it seems to be really lacking in comparision to even lowered end crypto coin areas. I believe in the merits of this coin. To increase Cloaks potential and expand adopter rate we really need to have a strong presence in these social spaces. Anything we can do to promote and engage new-comers to spark interest should be a part of any crypto coins winning strategy. Does anyone have any wacky out of the box creative ideas how we can push this coin in to the main stream? Is anyone aware of a Cloakcoin Press Team? It seems the daily release of copy cat scrypt clone coins have passed and now anonymous coins are the hot new trend. With many new competitor anonymous coins it is important to stand tall above the rest. Thoughts and comments people?.... Almost all of the anonymous crypto are using the Coinjoin protocol aside from Anoncoin which is doing a Zerocoin/Zerocash implementation and the Cryptonote-based currencies which have still yet to mature in their code maintainability. Any moment Kristov Atlas will be dropping a bomb on the Coinjoin community with Coinjoin Suduko ( http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/advisory/). When everyone realizes they've invested in a compromised anon protocol they'll be coming this way. Coinjoin is pretty much HD-DVD at this point. The insane thing is I posted this in some of the other coins threads to give them a heads up and the hard research was dismissed as FUD. Any investor that is stupid enough to dismiss a detailed security analysis of the technology they've invested in are better off giving their money to someone else who will use it more wisely  I mean seriously the guy said I'm giving people two weeks to get out. "In approximately two weeks, CoinJoin Sudoku will be released, open-source. The delay is intended to allow former users of SharedCoin adequate time to take extra steps to protect their financial privacy. The code will be made available here: https://github.com/kristovatlas/coinjoin-sudoku" A well timed PR push after the tool is released will see this crypto to the top. I for one can't wait to watch the panic sells. Regarding reddit - I agree though we could definitely use some more activity there. I'll def sub. Starting a fund for social promotions might be a step in the right direction. But tbh I think we'll get quite a bit of traction just from the Coinjoin Suduko release. |
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I have a problem, i send the cloak to my wallet to start staking, and now i have 1 transaction:
05:40 and 0/4 conformations
and another one
09:44 and 18 conformations
It looks like a small amount wont mature. How is this possible?
Also, im using wallet v1.9.4.0. Is this the correct one?
Thanks for the help in advance
1.9.5. is the most current wallet. |
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 this is my problem, it is mintpal address obviously you are on the wrong fork backup your wallet.dat and resync your client I have completed The Dagger manual and write to support mintpal , nothing answer so far.... still same problem Can me someone explain where is my cloacks now ? Is here problem on mintpal side ? Yeah the problem was on Mintpal's side. Bittrex and the other exchanges are fine. |
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I'm not sure that cloak's followers aren't becoming some sort of cult. It seems like the same 4 or 5 people post here all day.
This is currently the only Satoshi-based anon coin that isn't using the Coinjoin protocol (aside from Anoncoin). Where else would we be? If you're wondering why that's a big deal read this security analysis: http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/advisory/. Kristov Atlas's research has shown he can unmask 100% of the anonymous crypto transactions that use the Coinjoin protocol. His tool should be available at any moment. When that happens you'll realize that this is the only satoshi-based altcoin thread worth posting in aside from the cryptonote-based coins. You'll see a mass panic dump of the Coinjoin crypto. Title: Weak Privacy Guarantees for SharedCoin Mixing Service "The SharedCoin mixing service provided by Blockchain.info offers only limited privacy to users due to weaknesses in its design. Bitcoin users should carefully consider their privacy requirements and evaluate other mixing services if they require serious privacy guarantees. A tool for analyzing SharedCoin and other CoinJoin-based mixing protocols will be released approximately two weeks following this advisory to allow SharedCoin users adequate time to protect their privacy." In approximately two weeks, CoinJoin Sudoku will be released, open-source. The delay is intended to allow former users of SharedCoin adequate time to take extra steps to protect their financial privacy. The code will be made available here: https://github.com/kristovatlas/coinjoin-sudoku-Kristov Atlas http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/advisoryTranslation = I'm giving you two weeks to sell your Coinjoin based crypto so you don't lose your ass. This advisory was posted over two weeks ago. |
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Last minute shakedowns xD
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THE FACTS ABOUT DARK COIN
1. released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.
2. Instamined harder than any other coin out there 12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day
3. Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours - nice hey
yes that is correct they mined 50% of all the coins available at this time by themselves in the first 24 hours whilst windows users could not mine.
That is the facts.... doesn't matter what else they say... nothing can change what they have done.
Once zero coin, or bytecoin with a decent wallet it released or another darkcoin clone is released.... dark coin will sink like a stone.
Every time they try to spam their coin just post this to remind them of the facts about their coin.
This whole pre-mine instamine is starting to get old now. I don't care if 100% of the coin is owned by 1 developer. If the product is great, is innovative and has useful features its worth what i'm willing to pay for it. Its like saying I should share my wealth of my own business with random people, because its the right thing to do. IF, which it was NOT 50% instamined, as I was one of the first initial core to discover DarkCoin, I knew right off the bat that this coin was going somewhere...I spent 10's of thousands of dollars on mining servers from microsoft and amazon to mine DRK coin...I took a huge gamble and it paid off...then there should be reward for that. At the writing of your message there was barely 4 million coins minted, of a possible 20+ million. Thats NOT 50% instamined...what about the other 16+million coins yet to be mined? Sometime, it's hard to tell people the truth. I started mining DRK the moment after it was released. I rented a shitload of VPSs and amazon instances as well. I was at the top of all the mining charts on the pools I was using. I've since got out of the DRK scene but yeah when the coin launched I was getting a bunch per day. I offloaded my DRK into the market in small increments around the end of April. I don't know Evan personally I just saw his post and was looking for something new to mine after the Stablecoin developer went MIA. Anyways I have been invested into anon focused coins since the release of anoncoin. I don't really think that its a conspiracy tbh its just how this market works. Something looks appealing and then you mine the shit out of it. I did the same thing with Anoncoin. There is truth for ya. If you want a conspiracy try to connect the disappearance of Artos (Lead Stablecoin Dev) with the appearance of Evan Dufffield (Lead Darkcoin Dev). The two coins share the same design principals (Closed Source Mixer) and were abandoned/launched around the same timeframe. If you can get proof of that then you will have something on your hands BTW - Satoshi owns 1.5 million Bitcoins. So, what's you said is instamine 2 million coins by devs is the right thing to do because Satoshi also did ? No. I'm saying I had more hashing power pointed at the pools than they did and I'm not on their team. Look, pre-mine is a sensitive subject when it comes to the coins development but tbh Satoshi set the precedent in that regard. I personally look at it like this. If a developer is working on a coin instead of working a job then his only source of income is the project he is working on. It's not 100% that the coin is going to make him any money. The general opinion is that a developer needs to work for free on the coin he is developing, mine the coin like everyone else and then rely on donations from the community to support himself. If he doesn't get enough donations he stops working on the coin and the coin dies. Now unless he is earning an income outside of the project this is a recipe for bankruptcy and homelessness. Mining pools take 1-3% of the total coins mined then dump them into the market to support other coins - ultimately turning into a large multi-pool. These pools dont give a shit about the coin just turning them into bitcoins when they could instead be donating to help the coin's original developers out. Why is it OK for mining pool to take 1-3% of the coins mined and not OK for the original developer to take a pre-mine to support the actual progression of the coin? It doesn't really make much sense. If anyone is going to want a coin to succeed it would be the original developer. Yes, there are cases of scams where developers pump and dump but I'm saying in a scenario where its a legitimate project. I think the correct solution is developer vesting similar to founder's vesting. A developer take a % of the coins mined over time. This gives him an incentive to keep working on the project otherwise it dies and he doesn't get his full share; Moreover, prevents him from dumping his coins onto the market. Its a guaranteed source of coins for him and he doesn't need to rely on donations to keep the project going. I never have problem with premined coins if devs said they want to do premine for what they do. BUT, in this case, he said NO PREMINED. Ah ok. I never got the feeling that I was being scammed by the coin though. You gotta remember something they took a risk renting those instances and VPSs just like everyone else. It's not 100% that the coin is going to be worth anything. I think you should focus your energy on the relationship between Artos and Evan if there is any - then you'll have a real conspiracy on your hands Thank you for your input, but I don't want to find out more than this, if you have information, please provide to me, I can create another topic. For me, only keeping telling the truth about Darkcoin instamine is enough to do. BTW, I know you may be Darkcoin supporter, but you are the good Darkcoin supporter who discuss base on truth rather than try to cover things. Thanks I actually don't own any anymore DRK though, I offloaded them over the last month. In my experience speaking with Evan he seemed like a nice guy so I can't really say anything bad about him. But yeah if there was a scam it went over my head lol. |
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Just picked up some more CLOAK on the dip below 50k, thanks!
They're definitely in stronger hands now lulz. It's so hard to get anything below 50k. |
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THE FACTS ABOUT DARK COIN
1. released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.
2. Instamined harder than any other coin out there 12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day
3. Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours - nice hey
yes that is correct they mined 50% of all the coins available at this time by themselves in the first 24 hours whilst windows users could not mine.
That is the facts.... doesn't matter what else they say... nothing can change what they have done.
Once zero coin, or bytecoin with a decent wallet it released or another darkcoin clone is released.... dark coin will sink like a stone.
Every time they try to spam their coin just post this to remind them of the facts about their coin.
This whole pre-mine instamine is starting to get old now. I don't care if 100% of the coin is owned by 1 developer. If the product is great, is innovative and has useful features its worth what i'm willing to pay for it. Its like saying I should share my wealth of my own business with random people, because its the right thing to do. IF, which it was NOT 50% instamined, as I was one of the first initial core to discover DarkCoin, I knew right off the bat that this coin was going somewhere...I spent 10's of thousands of dollars on mining servers from microsoft and amazon to mine DRK coin...I took a huge gamble and it paid off...then there should be reward for that. At the writing of your message there was barely 4 million coins minted, of a possible 20+ million. Thats NOT 50% instamined...what about the other 16+million coins yet to be mined? Sometime, it's hard to tell people the truth. I started mining DRK the moment after it was released. I rented a shitload of VPSs and amazon instances as well. I was at the top of all the mining charts on the pools I was using. I've since got out of the DRK scene but yeah when the coin launched I was getting a bunch per day. I offloaded my DRK into the market in small increments around the end of April. I don't know Evan personally I just saw his post and was looking for something new to mine after the Stablecoin developer went MIA. Anyways I have been invested into anon focused coins since the release of anoncoin. I don't really think that its a conspiracy tbh its just how this market works. Something looks appealing and then you mine the shit out of it. I did the same thing with Anoncoin. There is truth for ya. If you want a conspiracy try to connect the disappearance of Artos (Lead Stablecoin Dev) with the appearance of Evan Dufffield (Lead Darkcoin Dev). The two coins share the same design principals (Closed Source Mixer) and were abandoned/launched around the same timeframe. If you can get proof of that then you will have something on your hands BTW - Satoshi owns 1.5 million Bitcoins. So, what's you said is instamine 2 million coins by devs is the right thing to do because Satoshi also did ? No. I'm saying I had more hashing power pointed at the pools than they did and I'm not on their team. Look, pre-mine is a sensitive subject when it comes to the coins development but tbh Satoshi set the precedent in that regard. I personally look at it like this. If a developer is working on a coin instead of working a job then his only source of income is the project he is working on. It's not 100% that the coin is going to make him any money. The general opinion is that a developer needs to work for free on the coin he is developing, mine the coin like everyone else and then rely on donations from the community to support himself. If he doesn't get enough donations he stops working on the coin and the coin dies. Now unless he is earning an income outside of the project this is a recipe for bankruptcy and homelessness. Mining pools take 1-3% of the total coins mined then dump them into the market to support other coins - ultimately turning into a large multi-pool. These pools dont give a shit about the coin just turning them into bitcoins when they could instead be donating to help the coin's original developers out. Why is it OK for mining pool to take 1-3% of the coins mined and not OK for the original developer to take a pre-mine to support the actual progression of the coin? It doesn't really make much sense. If anyone is going to want a coin to succeed it would be the original developer. Yes, there are cases of scams where developers pump and dump but I'm saying in a scenario where its a legitimate project. I think the correct solution is developer vesting similar to founder's vesting. A developer take a % of the coins mined over time. This gives him an incentive to keep working on the project otherwise it dies and he doesn't get his full share; Moreover, prevents him from dumping his coins onto the market. Its a guaranteed source of coins for him and he doesn't need to rely on donations to keep the project going. I never have problem with premined coins if devs said they want to do premine for what they do. BUT, in this case, he said NO PREMINED. Ah ok. I never got the feeling that I was being scammed by the coin though. You gotta remember something they took a risk renting those instances and VPSs just like everyone else. It's not 100% that the coin is going to be worth anything. I think you should focus your energy on the relationship between Artos and Evan if there is any - then you'll have a real conspiracy on your hands |
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THE FACTS ABOUT DARK COIN
1. released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.
2. Instamined harder than any other coin out there 12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day
3. Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours - nice hey
yes that is correct they mined 50% of all the coins available at this time by themselves in the first 24 hours whilst windows users could not mine.
That is the facts.... doesn't matter what else they say... nothing can change what they have done.
Once zero coin, or bytecoin with a decent wallet it released or another darkcoin clone is released.... dark coin will sink like a stone.
Every time they try to spam their coin just post this to remind them of the facts about their coin.
This whole pre-mine instamine is starting to get old now. I don't care if 100% of the coin is owned by 1 developer. If the product is great, is innovative and has useful features its worth what i'm willing to pay for it. Its like saying I should share my wealth of my own business with random people, because its the right thing to do. IF, which it was NOT 50% instamined, as I was one of the first initial core to discover DarkCoin, I knew right off the bat that this coin was going somewhere...I spent 10's of thousands of dollars on mining servers from microsoft and amazon to mine DRK coin...I took a huge gamble and it paid off...then there should be reward for that. At the writing of your message there was barely 4 million coins minted, of a possible 20+ million. Thats NOT 50% instamined...what about the other 16+million coins yet to be mined? Sometime, it's hard to tell people the truth. I started mining DRK the moment after it was released. I rented a shitload of VPSs and amazon instances as well. I was at the top of all the mining charts on the pools I was using. I've since got out of the DRK scene but yeah when the coin launched I was getting a bunch per day. I offloaded my DRK into the market in small increments around the end of April. I don't know Evan personally I just saw his post and was looking for something new to mine after the Stablecoin developer went MIA. Anyways I have been invested into anon focused coins since the release of anoncoin. I don't really think that its a conspiracy tbh its just how this market works. Something looks appealing and then you mine the shit out of it. I did the same thing with Anoncoin. There is truth for ya. If you want a conspiracy try to connect the disappearance of Artos (Lead Stablecoin Dev) with the appearance of Evan Dufffield (Lead Darkcoin Dev). The two coins share the same design principals (Closed Source Mixer) and were abandoned/launched around the same timeframe. If you can get proof of that then you will have something on your hands BTW - Satoshi owns 1.5 million Bitcoins. So, what's you said is instamine 2 million coins by devs is the right thing to do because Satoshi also did ? No. I'm saying I had more hashing power pointed at the pools than they did and I'm not on their team. Look, pre-mine is a sensitive subject when it comes to the coins development but tbh Satoshi set the precedent in that regard. I personally look at it like this. If a developer is working on a coin instead of working a job then his only source of income is the project he is working on. It's not 100% that the coin is going to make him any money. The general opinion is that a developer needs to work for free on the coin he is developing, mine the coin like everyone else and then rely on donations from the community to support himself. If he doesn't get enough donations he stops working on the coin and the coin dies. Now unless he is earning an income outside of the project this is a recipe for bankruptcy and homelessness. Mining pools take 1-3% of the total coins mined then dump them into the market to support other coins - ultimately turning into a large multi-pool. These pools dont give a shit about the coin just turning them into bitcoins when they could instead be donating to help the coin's original developers out. Why is it OK for mining pools to take 1-3% of the coins mined and not OK for the original developer to take a pre-mine to support the actual progression of the coin? It doesn't really make much sense. If anyone is going to want a coin to succeed it would be the original developer. Yes, there are cases of scams where developers pump and dump but I'm saying in a scenario where its a legitimate project. I think the correct solution is developer vesting similar to founder's vesting. A developer take a % of the coins mined over time. This gives him an incentive to keep working on the project otherwise it dies and he doesn't get his full share; Moreover, it prevents him from dumping his coins onto the market. Its a guaranteed source of coins for him and he doesn't need to rely on donations to keep the project going. |
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THE FACTS ABOUT DARK COIN
1. released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.
2. Instamined harder than any other coin out there 12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day
3. Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours - nice hey
yes that is correct they mined 50% of all the coins available at this time by themselves in the first 24 hours whilst windows users could not mine.
That is the facts.... doesn't matter what else they say... nothing can change what they have done.
Once zero coin, or bytecoin with a decent wallet it released or another darkcoin clone is released.... dark coin will sink like a stone.
Every time they try to spam their coin just post this to remind them of the facts about their coin.
This whole pre-mine instamine is starting to get old now. I don't care if 100% of the coin is owned by 1 developer. If the product is great, is innovative and has useful features its worth what i'm willing to pay for it. Its like saying I should share my wealth of my own business with random people, because its the right thing to do. IF, which it was NOT 50% instamined, as I was one of the first initial core to discover DarkCoin, I knew right off the bat that this coin was going somewhere...I spent 10's of thousands of dollars on mining servers from microsoft and amazon to mine DRK coin...I took a huge gamble and it paid off...then there should be reward for that. At the writing of your message there was barely 4 million coins minted, of a possible 20+ million. Thats NOT 50% instamined...what about the other 16+million coins yet to be mined? Sometime, it's hard to tell people the truth. I started mining DRK the moment after it was released. I rented a shitload of VPSs and amazon instances as well. I was at the top of all the mining charts on the pools I was using. I've since got out of the DRK scene but yeah when the coin launched I was getting a bunch per day. I offloaded my DRK into the market in small increments around the end of April. I don't know Evan personally I just saw his post and was looking for something new to mine after the Stablecoin developer went MIA. Anyways I have been invested into anon focused coins since the release of anoncoin. I don't really think that its a conspiracy tbh its just how this market works. Something looks appealing and then you mine the shit out of it. I did the same thing with Anoncoin. There is truth for ya. If you want a conspiracy try to connect the disappearance of Artos (Lead Stablecoin Dev) with the appearance of Evan Dufffield (Lead Darkcoin Dev). The two coins share the same design principals (Closed Source Mixer) and were abandoned/launched around the same timeframe. If you can get proof of that then you will have something on your hands BTW - Satoshi owns 1.5 million Bitcoins. |
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Another reason why CLOAK is a winner. Most of the Satoshsi-based anonymous solutions presented today are an offshoot of the Coinjoin protocol. Kristov Atlas a leading Bitcoin security analyst is releasing a tool any day now that according to his research shows anonymous transactions using the Coinjoin protocol can be unmasked 100% of the time. This is Krptonite to anonymous currency solutions like Supercoin and Darkcoin. For more information visit http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/ and click Advisory for a detailed analysis on the Coinjoin vulnerabilities. |
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Thank you Coolstoryteller for that info. I am long CLOAK and I feel confident I have made the right decision. Super is just a quick trade for me and it has performed very well, but soon enough it will be time to get out.
No problem Tokyo I hear ya there Yeah just giving everyone a headups as the article received minimal press coverage. Once it hits the mainstream it will do a lot of damage to the Coinjoin crypto market. Posted by: tylerderden
Man i'm so tired of the goddamn fudsters. Every coin, every other post (EVEN THE FREE POS COINS!) fud fud fud, it's getting old and guess what fudsters....nobody gives a shit what your opinion is, now go back to the trailer park it's time for Hee Haw. To everyone that calls this FUD you obviously you don't understand the meaning of FUD. This is a security advisory that's based off of real research related to the Coinjoin protocol. It's a sad day in the cryptocurrency community when hard research is dismissed as FUD. If you want to make money in this market you should understand the technology you're investing in... Good luck with your Coin I wish you all the best. |
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with 14.3million current supply im thinking of holding out much longer than 50k sats
Just like CLOAK went to 0.01 sats? You're delusional, you know that right? dude your just pissed because your sold. cloak was coin which was taken over because previous dev was a scam, don't compare cloak to us, Still waiting on your proof.. Old Cloak thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634046.0New Cloak thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.0Same Dev. Don't spread bullshit in other threads without citing proof. Cloak? don't tell me that, please read SuperSend's white paper, then read Cloakcoin's thread. They have no idea what is a trustless system, yet they claimed they will have it, what a FUD. Only a fool will believe it. Agree. Supersend white paper clearly explained what is a trustless system. So Supercoin's dev team understands the context very well. They said they are working on it. Go to Cloakcoin's thread, reading their posts they indeed have no idea of what is a trustless system. They thought as long as they can find a mixer to pair and that's it. It is far from that. A simple pairing system can easily be cheated and it is not a trustless system at all. I think they need to learn the concept first, before they can claim they want to build a trustless system.  I made a profit off this coin and now I'm out. Btw, I'm not even going to entertain your lack of understanding of CLOAK's PoSA extension protocol. Keep bashing it and you will eventually come around once Coinjoin Suduko comes out. I'll leave you with this security analysis which states that any crypto transaction using the Coinjoin protocol can be denanonymized 100% of the time. Taken from the Supercoin Whitepaper: "SuperSend is an anonymous send technology belonging to the Coinjoin catalogue." "The SharedCoin mixing service provided by Blockchain.info offers only limited privacy to users due to weaknesses in its design. Bitcoin users should carefully consider their privacy requirements and evaluate other mixing services if they require serious privacy guarantees. A tool for analyzing SharedCoin and other CoinJoin-based mixing protocols will be released approximately two weeks following this advisory to allow SharedCoin users adequate time to protect their privacy."-Kristov Atlas, Security & Privacy Researcher That was two weeks ago so anyday Coinjoin Suduko will be released. Anyways good luck with your coin and if you would like further information on this tool visit http://www.coinjoinsudoku.com/ and click the "advisory" tab for a detailed analysis. He's given people ample time to cut their losses with the Coinjoin protocol which in my opinion was a very courteous gesture. |
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with 14.3million current supply im thinking of holding out much longer than 50k sats
Just like CLOAK went to 0.01 sats? You're delusional, you know that right? dude your just pissed because your sold. cloak was coin which was taken over because previous dev was a scam, don't compare cloak to us, Still waiting on your proof.. Old Cloak thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634046.0New Cloak thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.0Same Dev. Don't spread bullshit in other threads without citing proof. Cloak? don't tell me that, please read SuperSend's white paper, then read Cloakcoin's thread. They have no idea what is a trustless system, yet they claimed they will have it, what a FUD. Only a fool will believe it. Lulz. |
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with 14.3million current supply im thinking of holding out much longer than 50k sats
Just like CLOAK went to 0.01 sats? You're delusional, you know that right? dude your just pissed because your sold. cloak was coin which was taken over because previous dev was a scam, don't compare cloak to us, Still waiting on your proof.. Old Cloak thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=634046.0New Cloak thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637704.0Same Dev. Don't spread bullshit in other threads without citing proof. |
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