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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bytecoin Clones/Forks: Quazarcoin, Monero, HoneyPenny, FantomCoin on: May 23, 2014, 11:28:06 PM
So as many of you already know, once Bytecoin was discovered after being hid away for 2 years, people started forking/cloning Bytecoin's code.

Monero is the first clone of Bytecoin, then comes Quazarcoin, HoneyPenny, and FantomCoin, and also the many more forks to come...



They're all exactly the same, with the same code and features since they were just forked from Bytecoin...

Info: https://cryptonote.org/coins.php

So following your retard logic: All Bitcoin forks are exactly the same because they are a fork, including your overhyped faulty coin you are holding known as DRK.

So much DRK hate.. Mad at the market price? I'm sitting really nice right now so I can't relate to your hate. I'll be sure to high five you with some DRK love when it hits $100. In all honestly I don't see why people hate on the anonymous coin trend. Its a step in the right direction whether it's DRK, ANC, BNC as long as there is progression in privacy sensitive cryptocurrency all libertarians should be happy. The only people who aren't happy are governments and greedy people who care more about their own holdings than the progression of technology.

982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bytecoin Clones/Forks: Quazarcoin, Monero, HoneyPenny, FantomCoin on: May 23, 2014, 11:19:35 PM
yea Monero is the

FIRST Fork

its 0% premine

Bytecoin is 80% premined

Now you can choose in which full anonym coin you invest.

Just because there wasn't a big announcement on bitcointalk doesn't mean bytecoin was premined. I was well aware of bytecoin last year. According to your logic everyone should abandon bitcoin because while it was being mined it went under the radar for the general population. Lets go ahead and support a bitcoin clone because you and everyone here weren't here to mine bitcoin at the start.. Retarded logic. There are also numerous dark web services supporting bytecoin which is what gives a coin its underlying value apart from speculation from miners and traders. I personally don't see any darkweb services dropping bytecoin to support monero or any other fork for that matter just because a few miners weren't in the know and want a reboot of the coin. If you operate on the clearnet you will only get clearnet news.. it's that simple.

 
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | DarkSend Anonymous Technology Pre-Alpha Launch on: February 20, 2014, 12:18:53 AM
did something happen to the blockchain? I had over 3000 DRK and they are all gone now..
984  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Gavin Andresen Sincere when he says he cares deeply about privacy in Bitcoin? on: January 31, 2014, 09:35:31 PM
There's a few developers working on privacy sensitive coins besides zerocoin. Anoncoin, Stablecoin (accepting beta testers for its mixer- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=402095), and Darkcoin. Zerocoin seems to be getting the most PR because they have a cryptography professor behind it.
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Goldman Sachs Involved in project Ethereum... ARE YOU F... KIDDING ME on: January 31, 2014, 09:05:51 PM
It's just one guy who worked for Goldman at one point lol, u guys are silly.

Plus the best thing we can do is convince bankers to start accepting and taxing crypto currency, in turn they take the bait. The goal is to move away from government controlled fiat by use it disruptive tech.

Lulz. Taxing cryptocurreny? Are you kidding me? How is that possibly beneficial to anyone besides government. The only "tax" that should ever come on crypto is the mining fee. The government and its agencies have nothing to do with the ecosystem and it should remain that way. The free people of the world finally have a new source of common trade that is independent of government backed dollars for the first time since 1913 and you're suggesting we invite them in to tax it? People are quick to forget that the American Revolution was started because of a 2% tax on Tea. Another fact people forget is that the U.S. Supreme Court already ruled that tax on income and real property is unconstitutional. Understand your rights history before you so openly advocate for taxes. If you wanna go ahead and donate your coins to the government then go ahead but don't bring the rest of us with you Smiley

-On May 21, 1895, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a direct tax on personal income was unconstitutional as a result of the case of Pollock v. Farmers‘ Loan and Trust Company. The lawsuit had been precipitated by the 1894 Income Tax Act. The Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision stated that a “direct tax” on the “income of real and of personal property” was “unconstitutional and void.”


When you strip everything away from all the hype you should realize that it is a virtual currency and if any regulation gets passed on it then it would apply to the millions of gamers in WOW, GW2 and other mmos who use virtual curency. There's been places like http://buy-wow-gold.com/ where people have been buying and selling those currencies for almost a decade. I'm sure we will find some great allies in the video game industry to lobby against any regulation or tax on cryptocurrencies as it will surely effect their bottom line.


Any coin that Goldman Sachs is involved in is toxic. Look at the what they did to the US economy and real estate market with the sub-prime mortgage industry.. These guys literally invented the adjustable rate sub-prime loan.. Made literally trillions of dollars by imploding the markets and getting carried on the back of the tax payers when shit went sour by design. So we can expect nothing less from any coin backed by these guys.
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCO] XCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 09:33:44 PM
...an 8 CPU is only doing 200KH/s which is around $160 a month.

Where do you obtain these numbers from?

There aren't still any websites where you can trade XCO / DRK so, what is the value you are assuming for this coin?

Hey I was just doing some math with VPS costs to mine it.

https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing

Here's the current cost
$640
$0.941
64GB
20 Cores
640GB SSD
9TB

Running 7 of these is netting about 3,327KH/s =  1,820.340 DRK

7 x $.0941 = $6.58 an hour
$6.58 x 24hours = $157.92 per day

Should give a base value of $.0867 per coin



So, using a c1.xlarge spot instance on EC2, I was getting these stats:

Currently the network is producing 68,640 DRK per day (143 per block * 20 blocks an hour * 24 hours)
1 instance runs at 140Kh/s , for $0.07/hr

There for you can calculate the coins per day to from the Kh, (140/35000.0)*68640

Coins per day = 274.56

Daily cost is 0.07*24, or $1.68 per instance.

Which brings the coin cost to... (0.07*24)/274.56

$0.0061



Cool thanks for the heads up. I'll have to try amazon out.

Also there's a huge difference in the estimates form the other pools vs darkcoin.io's what's going on there? I thought they were all running the same mining software
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 08:52:08 PM
...an 8 CPU is only doing 200KH/s which is around $160 a month.

Where do you obtain these numbers from?

There aren't still any websites where you can trade XCO / DRK so, what is the value you are assuming for this coin?

Hey I was just doing some math with VPS costs to mine it.

https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing

Here's the current cost
$640
$0.941
64GB
20 Cores
640GB SSD
9TB

Running 7 of these is netting about 3,327KH/s =  1,820.340 DRK

7 x $.0941 = $6.58 an hour
$6.58 x 24hours = $157.92 per day

Should give a base value of $.0867 per coin


hmm my estimate is (615kh/s) 962.479 DRK
so with that rig above, should net you 5206,776639024 DRK as an estimate

I was comparing different hash estimates from the different mining pools. I'm not sure why the official pool has a lower estimate

lottopool:
    FireWalkerX    503KH/s    787.494 DRK

pool.darkcoin.io:
    anonymous    503KH/s    275.348 DRK

good question

Yeah that is a really good question. The other pools have a substantially higher estimate than darkcoin.io's pool - on par with yours

http://xco.smalltimeminer.com:
3       anonymous    503KH/s    671.848 DRK
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCO] XCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
...an 8 CPU is only doing 200KH/s which is around $160 a month.

Where do you obtain these numbers from?

There aren't still any websites where you can trade XCO / DRK so, what is the value you are assuming for this coin?

Hey I was just doing some math with VPS costs to mine it.

https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing

Here's the current cost
$640
$0.941
64GB
20 Cores
640GB SSD
9TB

Running 7 of these is netting about 3,327KH/s =  1,820.340 DRK

7 x $.0941 = $6.58 an hour
$6.58 x 24hours = $157.92 per day

Should give a base value of $.0867 per coin


hmm my estimate is (615kh/s) 962.479 DRK
so with that rig above, should net you 5206,776639024 DRK as an estimate

I was comparing different hash estimates from the different mining pools. I'm not sure why the official pool has a lower estimate

lottopool:
    FireWalkerX    503KH/s    787.494 DRK

pool.darkcoin.io:
    anonymous    503KH/s    275.348 DRK
989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCO] XCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 08:28:53 PM
...an 8 CPU is only doing 200KH/s which is around $160 a month.

Where do you obtain these numbers from?

There aren't still any websites where you can trade XCO / DRK so, what is the value you are assuming for this coin?

Hey I was just doing some math with VPS costs to mine it.

https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing

Here's the current cost
$640
$0.941
64GB
20 Cores
640GB SSD
9TB

Running 7 of these is netting about 3,327KH/s =  1,820.340 DRK

7 x $.0941 = $6.58 an hour
$6.58 x 24hours = $157.92 per day

Should give a base value of $.0867 per coin
990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 03:25:59 AM
So the normal minerd won't work because of the x11?

Can this be mined in unix?

Edit: Ah looks like you can build it, giving that a try.


Easy Tutorial

1 - Log into root

2 - Create a swap file

sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=64M count=16
sudo mkswap /swapfile
sudo swapon /swapfile

3 - Download minerd, configure and compile

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install build-essential libcurl4-openssl-dev zip
sudo apt-get install automake
sudo wget https://github.com/ig0tik3d/xcoin-cpuminer_1.1/archive/master.zip
sudo unzip 34a84a753c5b86614bd05fb7c34a801885d23f71.zip
cd xcoin-cpuminer_1.1-34a84a753c5b86614bd05fb7c34a801885d23f71
chmod 755 ./autogen.sh
./autogen.sh
sudo CFLAGS="-O3 -msse2" ./configure
sudo make
sudo strip minerd

4 - Signup at a pool

./minerd -a X11 -o stratum+tcp://pool.darkcoin.io:3333 -u username.workername -p password

5 - You should see it detect threads and then you're good to go
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 03:03:58 AM
Alright, everything has been changed over to darkcoin! The client source/images have been updated and can be found at:

https://github.com/evan82/darkcoin

Everything is compatible, just make sure to copy over your wallet from ~/.xcoin to ~/.darkcoin, and remember the clients will change from xcoin-qt to darkcoin-qt.

Thanks

Do we need to recompile the mac version? I'm assuming you changed the address generation to dark with D now?

Yeah, I'll reach out to the mac+windows guys to get those recompiled.

Oddly enough, that beginning X isn't just decorative, it's actually part of the address, so it's not possible to change what the address starts with after everyone has wallets.

Yeah that's why i was asking if you changed it Smiley good stuff keep us posted. How many developers are working on this with you?

Let's see. I'm the main programmer, then we have a Linux admin, a windows guy and a mac guy. Plus there's 3 other pool operators in the mix.

Cool. Well good luck on the coin I hope it's worth something it's very expensive to mine it lol.
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 02:28:25 AM
Alright, everything has been changed over to darkcoin! The client source/images have been updated and can be found at:

https://github.com/evan82/darkcoin

Everything is compatible, just make sure to copy over your wallet from ~/.xcoin to ~/.darkcoin, and remember the clients will change from xcoin-qt to darkcoin-qt.

Thanks

Do we need to recompile the mac version? I'm assuming you changed the address generation to dark with D now?

Yeah, I'll reach out to the mac+windows guys to get those recompiled.

Oddly enough, that beginning X isn't just decorative, it's actually part of the address, so it's not possible to change what the address starts with after everyone has wallets.

Yeah that's why i was asking if you changed it Smiley good stuff keep us posted. How many developers are working on this with you?
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 29, 2014, 02:07:58 AM
Alright, everything has been changed over to darkcoin! The client source/images have been updated and can be found at:

https://github.com/evan82/darkcoin

Everything is compatible, just make sure to copy over your wallet from ~/.xcoin to ~/.darkcoin, and remember the clients will change from xcoin-qt to darkcoin-qt.

Thanks

Do we need to recompile the mac version? I'm assuming you changed the address generation to dark with D now?
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCO] XCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 28, 2014, 11:30:35 PM
Any word on a GPU miner?

Not that I'm aware of

This is going to be far more expensive to operate than GPU mining. Some of these guys are getting 10,000KH/s + I'm running a few diffe[Suspicious link removed] instances and an 8 CPU is only doing 200KH/s which is around $160 a month. To get 10,000KH/s it would seem that it would cost like $8000 a month (50x$160) which doesn't make much sense economically. I understand the reasoning for going with the algo you went with but this only benefits people with large pockets in the same way the ASIC does so it kind of defeats the purpose lol. If you went with something that was GPU friendly it would benefit the coin as well as the network.
995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCO] XCoin | First Anonymous Coin (cpu only) on: January 28, 2014, 10:14:54 PM
Any word on a GPU miner?
996  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / RICO and BTC on: January 27, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
Not sure if anyone is familiar with the RICO act but if I'm correct it potentially puts the entire Bitcoin community under investigation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

One way the government would bust Mafia members is by using "marked" bills. Agents would engage in illegal business transactions with criminal organizations and since the top members weren't at the buy they would bust those higher members when they were in possession of the marked bills which linked them to the crime. In the case of BTC - transactions and dealing on the silkroad extend into every possible aspect of bitcoin as all the Bitcoins from that ever went in and out of the Silkroad are essentially marked. What does this mean? It means that anyone operating a bitcoin related business is subject to investigation and arrest under the RICO act. Essentially the entire bitcoin network is operating as an illegal criminal organization from the miners who supported the the transactions to the pools that support the miners.

The arrest of Charlie Shrem is the beginning of the end for Bitcoin. What's even more odd is Lead Bitcoin developer Gavin meets with the CIA/NSA/CFR and then all of a sudden these arrests happen. Seems a bit odd. If you don't think this forum is also crawling with feds than you are gravely mistaken.

Anoncoin, Stablecoin and Zerocoin represent the future of cryptocurrency because those developers are working to protect the users/operators/miners from being implicated in a RICO investigation by making the transactions completely anonymous. Something bitcoin developers like Gavin could care less about. You can't have marked bills if the currency is anonymous. One needs to protect free currency through anonymity just like free speech protects both hate and praise speech.
997  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hand Control to the Establishment: Arrest the Early Adopters on: January 27, 2014, 08:54:41 PM
Charlie was connected to Silk Road. It doesn't matter when. Bitcoin is not on trial here, he is.

But you forum philosophers will find every reason to bark at the man...

Technically everyone is connected to the silkroad one way or another through BTC. You think the largest marketplace for bitcoin transactions doesn't some how relate into other bitcoin related businesses? It's called RICO look it up all they need it .00000000001 of a BTC that originated from a silkroad transaction into 'yourbusinessnamehere' to go after you for money laundering.

998  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED on: January 27, 2014, 08:40:01 PM
Wow. What a load of shit. This is definitely one nail in the coffin for BTC. Enter the next era of crypto - Anoncoin, Stablecoin and Zerocoin. A completely anonymous coin is needed. This puts anyone running a bitcoin related business at risk because of the origin of the coin spent. You can think what you want but this is the beginning of the end.

Goldman Sachs and top US banks launder more money than any cartel would even hope to and they go after a brand new industry.. Shit the US is the largest importer of illegal drugs and guns. The US military in Afghanistan is the largest producer/exporter of opium in the world.

Fast n Furious
Freeway Rick Ross

http://www.lookintoit.org/Troops-Protect-Government-Drug-Dealing.html
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12247-cia-manages-drug-trade-mexican-official-says
999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: January 27, 2014, 08:22:12 PM
30,000BTC? That's a bit much IMO. Doesn't seem like a good strategy for investors either. What's to stop this coin from being cloned, renamed and relaunched with a fair launch minus the IPO? One of the main things for investors is IP and this coin doesn't do much to safeguard that. I'm not trolling the thread just stating my viewpoint as a potential investor.

The involvement of Goldman Sachs employees doesn't bode well either. GS translates into corruption on an international level.

1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][1% Fee][Stratum][PROP] List of Nordic pools on: January 25, 2014, 09:11:57 PM
Hi,

Registering seems impossible in my side. There is always a message saying that I entered invalid captcha, but in fact, there is no captcha box at all in the register page. Help please!

http://sbc.nordicminers.eu/index.php?page=register

and other coin pool as well,

Regards

Tested with my Firefox browser, worked fine. Do you have some ad or popup block running? Try using Firefox or Chrome.

the sbc pool in non functional for pw reset and login.. my account was booted offline and i have received any transactions in two days.. pw reset procress results in a expired token message.
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