So, what happened to the buy support for Cloak?  It looks like CLOAK will go back to 75000  Never trust those charts. There's plenty of lurkers there in wait. |
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private listings/transactions that opt out of onejury fee (no fees = less liability correct?) sounds good. This means private listings will lose the search functions and ease of access provided by core ui and thus serve niche markets and face risk of discovery themselves for illegal activity. Sounds good to me, what am i missing?
Not sure how private listing would = to discovery. The whole platform will have the same level of privacy and anonymity regardless if the listing is private or public. |
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Search www.cloaktalk.org for issues you may have. If you don't find your issue there, post it and you'll get a response from someone in the community. |
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Alright guys thanks to everyone that donated! I just sent out 5BTC worth of Cloak to the PR firm that will be handling our Advertising/PR/media distribution for the next month. We'll have a well timed PR distro for PoSA, OneMarket, HitBTC USD/Cloak pairing and any other milestone we reach. In addition, targeted ads buys through Google/Facebook. Anyone looking to help out - feel free to join Cloaktalk and give some ideas on how to we can further penetrate the market. If you have any Cloaks to donate to the cause visit the the Marketing Fund thread on Cloaktalk for the addresses. http://www.cloaktalk.org/t/cloak-marketing-fund/92Thanks! |
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To be honest I'm a little disappointed to hear about "regulations" in OneMarket. I thought the idea was a decentralized "anything goes" type market. You can't control what people do with it. The beauty is unlike a hidden Tor site, you cannot shut it down. Even hidden Tor services have a single point of seizure (server), but OneMarket would not live in any one place, like the blockchain. You would not be able to arrest the cloak team because they aren't actually hosting anything, no one is. This = freedom from censorship and rules.
If you ban illegal drugs, I'm sorry but you are missing out on millions of dollars of Cloak that could be transacted per year. Why have an elaborate anonymous marketplace if I'm buying PS4? I think the key thing here is freedom, freedom to buy and sell what we please in a place that cannot be controlled by an entity. People can already buy/sell illegal things anonymously without OneMarket
It's a tough spot to be in though, because I do disagree with illegal drugs, child porn, guns, etc. But I will be showing my disagreement by not buying and supporting sellers thay sell these things with OneMarket.
It's easy for you to say this, as you are not going to be the one going to prison for making this. And I am getting the general vibe that many people here want OneMarket to be the new Silk Road. This is really dangerous for the developers, guys. I see your point, however isn't that like arresting someone that created some video editing software because someone else used it to edit child porn? The software itself isn't doing anything illegal, the people using it would be. The Devs are not selling anything illegal, nor are they profiting from it if the listing fees go to the miners, nor are they hosting it like a website or something. OneMarket could have the option of "blocking" certain listings from being viewed by the user. If I don't want to see illegal drugs on OneMarket, I can simply block that category or key word and my OneMarket experience will be like those listings never existed Isnt this what happened to Ross tho? AFAIK, Ross was allegedly was playing a role in the distribution side of things. There were some talks about his journal entries containing things like "Paid off the Aryan brotherhood today." |
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CoolStory Bro..... some of the idiots on the forum just will never get it all u can do is laugh at them we will be LULZing when PoSA drops and no1 sells and it rises fast  xD |
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Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol
If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread. EDIT. @coolstoryteller. Bro the 90-30 drop was right after it hit MintPal. I remember that because I sold at 80-93 and rebought maybe a week later at 40-50. Stop lying to yourself man. Those drops happen to every coin that gets listed on MintPal and sees an initial pump. Yes, right after which took me 48+ hours with minimal sleep to do. I couldn't even leave my computer for more then 5 mins else the price would go up 5-10k sat. |
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Whale vs Catfish
Who will win this battle.lol
If you believe his "30-90" story and think he's a whale, youre just as much of a fool as he is. Whales dont give a fuck about any coin, and they move on from one to another. All they care about is making more BTC. This dude has been an active fanboy and no whale will waste his time posting 5 hours a day on a single thread. This is exactly why you will never make money in the crypto trade. You don't see the market potential and just look at coins as a quick pump. There is an entire deepweb market looking for an alternative to Bitcoin to conduct their business in private. If you don't think there is a market their take a look at how much BTC was seized from the Silk Road and that is just one deepweb market. |
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LULZ! My ego banter....
So you personally drove the price from 30k to 90k? Cool story bro. What kind of overinflated ego do you have, you insecure dolt? Theres not reason for me to say how much money Ive made. No I have not coded, and I am a complete noob at any of that. I only invest. But nobody really cares about that so I wont bore you. Ive been a cloak supporter from the beginning. I bought in at 12-30k and have bought and sold during the waves, and will continue to do so. That doesnt mean I stopped or will stop supporting it. One thing I do know is when the whales and pumpers begin their tweeting campaigns, thats usually a sign to jump ship for the time being. Just my experience. Dunno why that last post offended you. If Im wrong about my analysis, then Ill apologize to you since you were clearly offended there. lulz! No you're implying that the demand for Cloak dropped due to a lost of interest, some shady situation or an inferior product. I'm saying it dropped because I made it drop. Too many weakass holders were in and they needed to be weeded out. A coin can only go as far as it's investors think it will; Moreover, when there's too many weaklings invested they jump ship at the first sign of a price increase. Real investors are looking at all the factors that make up a real coin not just a tweet. The ignorance of your post offends me because you're making baseless accusations about developer delays. You don't understand what it takes to build a product yet you somehow have an opinion on it. That's what offends me. Do you homework before you post some useless information with absolutely zero evidence or experience to back up your claim. Dude if you dont think whales and the pumpers control this coin right now you are a fool. They control most of these emerging coins. And I wasnt implying anything about the demand or the development of Cloak. You seem to hear what you want to hear. I simply go by the hype/news in correlation to the charts and depth charts. It has paid the bills so far. Depth chart says it might go as high as 190 before it inevitably dumps and price corrects. That is why I put my orders from 130-180. I could be wrong, where it just shoots through the roof and I am left behind after underselling. Or I could be right and it reaches that range then it dips after a correction. Either way Im happy, and dont really care. But dont twist my words and start talking about development. Check it out. I said I dropped the coin from 90k sat to 30k sat not the reverse which would be a pump. Show me a chart that predicted that drop. I saw the value in the coin and realized the large amount of weak holders in the coin needed to be weeded out which is exactly what happened. Smart investors did the same thing they are the ones in the drivers seat right now. Show me a chart that predicted I would do that and it will be my new god. I hear what you type. You said the price of PoSA is baked in.. I'm asking you what you are using to gauge what the price of trustless anon should be at since I'm basing mine off of DRK and their promise of trustless anon. That alone almost took DRK to the $20 mark. The reason it didn't go higher was because of their failed implementation. It happened twice and investor confidence went out the window. |
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LULZ! My ego banter....
So you personally drove the price from 30k to 90k? Cool story bro. What kind of overinflated ego do you have, you insecure dolt? Theres not reason for me to say how much money Ive made. No I have not coded, and I am a complete noob at any of that. I only invest. But nobody really cares about that so I wont bore you. Ive been a cloak supporter from the beginning. I bought in at 12-30k and have bought and sold during the waves, and will continue to do so. That doesnt mean I stopped or will stop supporting it. One thing I do know is when the whales and pumpers begin their tweeting campaigns, thats usually a sign to jump ship for the time being. Just my experience. Dunno why that last post offended you. If Im wrong about my analysis, then Ill apologize to you since you were clearly offended there. lulz! No you're implying that the demand for Cloak dropped due to a lost of interest, some shady situation or an inferior product. I'm saying it dropped because I made it drop. Too many weakass holders were in and they needed to be weeded out. A coin can only go as far as it's investors think it will; Moreover, when there's too many weaklings invested they jump ship at the first sign of a price increase. Real investors are looking at all the factors that make up a real coin not just a tweet. The ignorance of your post offends me because you're making baseless accusations about developer delays. You don't understand what it takes to build a product yet you somehow have an opinion on it. That's what offends me. Do you homework before you post some useless information with absolutely zero evidence or experience to back up your claim. |
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You should probably look into some of the features Cloak has coming up. It doesn't need to be accepted anywhere.
You are assuming OneMarket will work and people decide to actually use it. It is a lot of ifs. A problem I see with OneMarket is people need CLOAK to participate. What if you don't feel like going out and buying CLOAK? It's a hurdle to adoption, and it could be a nonstarter for many people. The whole point of OneMarket is so people with Cloak can participate in a trustless anon decentralized ecosystem. People who don't care about privacy will probably never use Cloak and that's OK because it was never designed for them in the first place. Just like people who don't care about privacy will never use the TOR browser.. It's what separates people who use cash from those who use credit cards. |
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80 and out?
I bought at 30 and still holding.
I bought at 20  Pretty sure Artoo was referring to buying XC at 80k. Not Cloak. I have my sell orders for Cloak set at 130-180, some of them already got filled. I want to hold longer, but considering whales and pumpers have been bragging about it for the past week is a red flag to me. Also dont forget that even after the POSA countdown announcement a couple weeks ago, the price went down to as low as 34k. Its seen a 4x-5x increase since. Dont be surprised to see POSA already priced in. Just saying. CloakCoin and DarkCoin have almost the same amount of coins available. The way I look at it, that either means this is horribly underpriced, or DarkCoin is horribly overpriced. I'm leaning towards the former, so that's why I'm not nearly selling this low. Cloak only has 4.5 million coins. Drk has 22 million Total number of coins does not matter... The important matter is how many instamined coins does the whales have to be able to control a market and to pump that market... With DRK, that number is very high, that's why dark was pumped that high... Look at ppl who bought in at ~0.02, they'll never touch that price again before the coin will be forgotten and ppl will move to something new, or some coin offering more things on the table... Anon features start to look for many as it really is, an useless thing, which you can't use because you don't have the places accepting it...meh... Its not all about anon features, its how it works. I'm personally not banking on anon features, onemarket, oneledger is where we see the real innovations. There's quite abit of additional features down the pipeline. Using POS protocol to create anon transactions is quite a smart idea and this could be use for other things too. I still don't see the difference between drk anon feature and coin mixers, its price jumped so high because they were the first to come with with the idea of anon transactions, whales have had their part too. OneMarket is nothing special at all, anybody can create a classifieds website to list items for X coin, and have a script into the wallet displaying the listings on the website...it piece of cake and nothing special...the real problem with something like this is the incentive to use such a thing... why should I sell my things for cloakcoin, this is the real question...I can sell them directly for Bitcoin in the near future on eBay... Show us a coin that has a similar feature to OneMarket. Since anyone can develop it. |
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80 and out?
I bought at 30 and still holding.
I bought at 20 Pretty sure Artoo was referring to buying XC at 80k. Not Cloak. I have my sell orders for Cloak set at 130-180, some of them already got filled. I want to hold longer, but considering whales and pumpers have been bragging about it for the past week is a red flag to me. Also dont forget that even after the POSA countdown announcement a couple weeks ago, the price went down to as low as 34k. Its seen a 4x-5x increase since. Dont be surprised to see POSA already priced in. Just saying. Lulz. Thanks for your useless opinion.. and thanks for offloading all 5 of your Cloaks. The weakhanded holders show their colors. Have you ever written a piece of code or made a serious amount of money off of a crypto investment? I doubt it because it seems you don't know anything about either. This dev team caught my eye because they were the first team that I've seen uploading videos of the development progress. The community has been involved since Day 1 in almost every aspect of the coins development. That is the reason why whales are excited about this coin. The dev community shows progress not a bunch broken promises that seem the be the standard in the altcoin market. That is also the reason why we don't care about the opinion of a sucker fish. Your coins are in much better hands now. I personally drove the price down to 30k from 90k in a 48 hour trade run to shake out weakhanded holders like yourself. Apparently I missed one. Explain to everyone here how the price of PoSA is baked in. I'm dying to know how a trustless anon implementation is being trading at 80 cents when its a first for crypto. Where do you gauge this price from? DRK hit almost $20 a coin on the promise of anon which wasn't even trustless and never will be. The coin's community grows stronger off of the ignorance of investors like you. This it why you'll never make a penny trading crypto because you don't know what a real coin looks like. Just saying. |
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I find it interesting that Dev Promises get the front page while tangible action for 5 months didn't... Hey Camel, Their anon is working atm through exchanges, the PoSA release is in the next few days AFAIK. That's the real game changer. That was posted a few days ago.  |
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Please anyone tell me how to fix this ? I've updated Cloakcoin wallet to 1.9.60 but still cannot complete sync. Tks  Get the latest cloakcoin.conf ( http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/nodes/download.php) and put it in %appdata%\CloakCoin. Restart your wallet. 12 connections to the network , but still cannot sync  If you have issues please check www.cloaktalk.org before posting here. This issue has been posted there and here multiple times. You will get better support by posting your issues on cloaktalk. |
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Hello! Hitbtc team is here. We are glad to notice that Cloakcoin is a new leader of our Voting process: https://hitbtc.com/voteAnd this is a new WR: 12 000 Votes for one day. The first community with 10 000+ Votes for one day. Good Job!  Your Hitbtc team Welcome to Cloak HitBtc! Hopefully we can see a USD/CLOAK pairing here soon! Let us know what you need from us! Lots of new investors are trying to enter the market so the sooner the better for all of us! |
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why is no one selling on mintpal The weak hands are almost weeded out. Cloak is worth way more than current value. I won't start selling until 0.02+ Maybe.. The problem is that I'm still trying to buy more.. I'd like to own 250K cloak by new years eve! Soon the devs are going to have to form a Cloakheads Anonymous support group. Treating people for cloak addiction. |
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POSA.... get ready for DRK prices soon  looks like footage of CLOAK early adopters celebrating in Costa Rica. +1 |
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