The same could be said about potato salad. For most people it was just and ordinary dish consisting mainly one vegetable, until it become an countrywide (or maybe even worldwide) phenomena, giving his maker a lot of money and media recognition - proof below.





Please don't take my post as advice to invest into Potato Salad Coin ICO!  

But was it real scam, meaning they stolen people's money or did the ponzi ended without you getting your profit/ funds back? Did you even know it was ponzi or were just disguising they real scheme as some kind of legitimate business (like mining, trading etc.)?


I do believe you. I recently chatted with someone like this on Facebook. When asking for evidence of his profits he sent me video showing computer with his forex account or something like this open. I took this as a hint that he's trying to scam me as I wanted something you can verify (there are websites were traders can post their trades in real time so you can see their performance). Only reason I talked with him was that I couldn't find any fault with his profile, everything looked legit, he had photos and all.
But getting back to why I do believe you - I had intention to do something similar, just with other kind of scammers. And your post... it's my "schizophrenia" (I'll maybe separate topic about this) kicking in again - 2 or 3 days ago I had a chance to perform my act, just wasn't really ready to do it - both mentally and financially, as it would require "investing" (risking) a bit more than $100.
Overally - congrats 

Do you still believe in Kickstarter, Indiegogo, gofundme, Adsense, airdrops etc.?
I think this is wrong question, you can't really "believe in ICOs", yes, there was a time before bitcoin huge rally when investing in any semi-legit ICO could make you a lot of $$$, but it wasn't mainly because of these particular ICOs, it was because of BTC going up to $20 000, this also reflected on people attitude toward ICOs, most of the market was green, big media coverage, many new people investing... but also lot of people realising their profit which took BTC price down.
You have to evaluate every ICO individually.

But if you ask me if in situation where I would have $1 000 000 to invest would I throw $1000 to every new ICO?
Then the answer is yes, ICOs are like startups, you invest in 100 of them and only 1 or 2 generate profit - but the profit they generate cover loses caused by the rest.

I see "fake" messages posted all over this forums.
My thinking is that many are made by newbie users who wants to get their rank up in order to participate in some signature campaigns.
Second thing, this is Korean coin/ ICO, I don't know how cryptocurrencies/ BTCtalk is popular in Korea, maybe there is influx of new users from this country and you label them as "shills"?


It's not only about who you trust, it's also about market trust and good enter/ exit points. Back in 2014 I invested in good looking coin with honest devs and it went down almost to 0 (they had to change price from satoshi to litoshi), then I invested my remaining BTC dust in some scammy looking coin (their main and in fact only new feature was fake/ scam) and managed to get some profit.  Granted, in few weeks time their scame became apparent and their coin died. The honest coin mentioned before operates to this day -> but it never went back to the price I paid for it.

Well, I can say that I'm victim of scam, but there is more to that, I wasn't simply scammed, I have dealt with someone who is probably a scammer and due to my health issues and personal problems I had lost a lot of bitcoin.
Simply put: I (partially) scammed myself.
I won't elaborate on that, you can search my post history and you'll find what I'm talking about, I don't really wanna talk about this at this moment, as there is some hope to recover my funds - hope dies last.
If you are wealthy person or English lawyer and want to help me somehow don't hesitate to PM me 

I've found Banano cryptocurrency, which is fork of Nano, which used to be named RaiBlocks.
They're trying to become what Dogecoin became to Bitcoin/ Litecoin and they have an Android game Banano Runner were you can earn Bananos.

Thanks for the answers.
I got some valuable info, I understand that forks are mess, but the situation I was talking about (which I didn't mention in initial post) is that particular coin is doing forks anyway, I mean they require everyone (users/ miners/ exchanges) to update to new version, old version stops working, there is some kind of snapshot of all transactions created and they start from that, old transactions are not included in new blockchain, just wallets/ addresses that held some amount of coins.

I have also new question, if no one replies I will create new topic, no worries: is it possible to block certain wallet/ address from spending coins?
There are number of wallets that should not be touched for some reason, my thinking is that if everyone updates their client (wallet) software you can blacklist those addresses so miners won't include transactions from these addresses in blocks, is that correct? I'm talking of less than 100 addresses, so I don't think that would "eat" much of processing power, I can think that blocking hundreds of thousands addresses would require some sort of database and heavy modifications to wallet, but with such little number I can't see a problem, am I thinking right? Thanks.

Honestly: I didn't read white paper just his thread. What puts me off is name and logo. Now I'm reading this projects combines dating and eating? Takeaway love? That doesn't sound good.
And being on the topic of sounds: how do you pronounce its name? IPA please.
Thx.

Hi, I have one simple question, I would like to get an answer from someone knowledgeable it this matter, but if you have some serious suspicions, then please feel to write them too.

Of course you can PM me if you don't want to post it publicly.

Who's in control of cryptocurrency assets of Moopay LTD from Moolah.io website/service ?

Please note that I'm not asking about Mintpal exchange/company.

Btw, here's form for Moopay creditors (page 22): https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08920347/filing-history/MzIwNDUyOTE5N2FkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0



This is different from Mintpal creditor form

I have read a lot about your lotto and I think it's very interesting model, wish you good luck with it, unless something devastating happens it may work well for all parties involved, no just house/ lottery owner as in other similar projects.


Wow, this is in fact shocking  . Some of my relatives play national lottery, I'll maybe try to convince them to switch to 8BET 


I get your point, hate clicking those validation links myself, but as someone who lost 3BTC of coins because of not clicking link in email (to download ICO wallet) due to my health problems/ difficulties using computer I think there should be some mention of it.

Best Regards

Yes.
But not because of it's innovative nature and chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks.

Because it mimics today's fiat/ banking system.
So what that there is no fractional reserve system and it's not based on debt?
Enormous deflation takes care of these "problems", keeping poor people poor* and rich people rich.
Of course I might be completely wrong because of my frustration that it didn't make me rich, but the idea Satoshi Nakamoto had was that everyone could "print" some money. That worked at the beginning, but then, as Satoshi predicted, bitcoins became valuable and people started buying it for fiat money and they invested in better and better mining equipment: faster computers, pools, GPUs, FPGAs and ASICs. At some point it become impossible for common people to mine BTC - their only way to obtain it was to buy. From who? From companies and rich individuals that took role of FED, creator of the money. You could argue that they didn't create it from thin air, but I could argue they did - how else could you describe methods of ASICs manufacturers that were delivering their mining rigs only after they become almost obsolete, of course taking payments from their clients months before and unlawfully using their equipment? Now so called common folk has to do what regulators and money creators - exchanges/ pools/ mining farms owners - want him to do. If they decide they want BTC to become universal currency it'll happen.
Unless Satoshi has some surprise in store for us (don't forget his BTC stash).


* Of course it made many poor people rich, but what % of BTC users? And it wasn't even Bitcoin's goal, it's goal was to create level playing field.

OMG, I happened to be on reddit today, I don't really use that site but for some reason I had it opened and I checked my post history to see what I was doing in the past... and about 4 years ago someone asked similar question (is it too late) and now somehow I found this topic here. Back then my answer was:

Yes

No

Maybe

I think it's still correct.

Back then some people predicted that BTC will be worth $1M. Current ATH is $20k. A long way to go? Hmmm, that's what I was thinking when it was $1000 and then $300 but the answer is no - at least in crypto.
How many times you've seen coins going up for example x2 in matter of days? A lot.

So 20k x2 = 40k, 40k x2 = 80k, 80k x2 = 160k -> you get the idea.

Of course downward movement of similar magnitude is also common in crypto.
There is also aspect of marketcap/ trade volume - some people say $1M BTC won't happen, because it would require enormous amount of money pumped into market and this is unlikely. Having checked trade volume charts you can clearly see that trade volume and price are tightly connected. But don't underestimate amount of "spare" money there is on this world. If someone invests in stock exchange to earn <20% yearly and then he sees that with BTC he could earn more in matter of weeks what do you think he'll do?
But there is also regulation aspect. Regulated exchanges may mean end to enormous pumps, because some tactics used by big traders ("whales") today will be simply prohibited. But stability isn't necessary a bad thing - it may mean that there will be less trading and more using (spending and accepting BTC payments) which may lead to slower, but healthier rise of the price. More stable price may mean more trust in BTC as currency, which today, excluding some special cases (mostly illegal - drugs, gambling etc.), is it's secondary use - main is trading.

Of course this may never happen, decentralized exchanges may take the lead and today's big exchanges may be soon obsolete.

Hi

Thanks for the free lottery, it's always nice when you can get something for nothing 

And the fact you can win something by matching only 2 balls makes you better than national lottery in my country where you have to match min. 3.

I just found one little bug: when changing password you aren't asked for current password, wasn't even sure if it's bad design but turns out it is.
Or maybe two... I don't remember being asked to verify my e-mail when registering my account, but verification e-mail showed up in my inbox, which was little surprise. But as I said: I don't remember such message, it doesn't mean there wasn't one, maybe I just missed one.

Good luck everyone!

Then you need to reword your offer/ request and post it in different forum category.
What you want is someone who'll claim 10ETH worth of these tokens for you for a fee of 0.1ETH.
BTW this looks like interesting project, reminds me of Bytecoin (BCN), shame that physical passport costs $50, thanks for mentioning it.

Good point. It's like with a celebrities, almost every celebrity has a large base of haters.
It's just impossible to cater to everyone, but at least with cryptocurrencies you can sell your holdings and move to another coin if you don't like something or even create "done right" fork



Good to know, I felt really salty when I found that I missed this opportunity (having lost on another investments), according to your information they probably wouldn't accept me anyway.


Hi didn't pay any airdrops??? Are you sure? yinoye mentioned that it was hard to get accepted, but how can you be sure that he didn't pay any airdrops? If that's true, then it's really sophisticated scam, because I saw posts about receiving airdrop even in my local, non-english section of BTCtalk (albeit they were mostly by person who translated DeepOnion's ann I think).


Wait, what? People above said it was very difficult/ impossible to receive airdrops and now you're saying that some users received few times there were entitled to?
Someone should do a proper investigation and found how it really was.


So it's 1:3 on being able to receive airdrop as legitimate user.

Anyway, I hope those who paid for their coins manage to avoid any serious losses.

I read about it and it's just human nature, all traders "fall" for that, including me.
I put "fall" in quotes, because it's not really a fallacy, it's fear, but it's not groundless fear: what goes up must come down, crypto investments are risky, you can gain a lot and lost a lot.

• If you have an asset that goes up ⇗ you fear that it'll go down and you'll lose your profit - so you want to sell.
  
• If you have an asset that goes down ⇘ you hope that it'll recover - so you keep holding it.

1st situation is FUD - Fear Uncertainty Doubt - I've heard that term a lot here, but it was directed towards people posting bad news about particular coin ("spreading FUD"), didn't know it affects coin holders directly.
2nd situation is bag holding - you can hold coin for a long time and it may eventually recover, but it may as well go to 0 or near it.

Now the problem is that I encountered both kind of situations and was wrong on 2 of 3 occasions - unfortunately, I made right decision only on the least profitable coin - I sold half of my holdings for a good price, then I watched it reaching ATH, then it went down and turned out to be a scam.

Usual answer: it depends.

You have to take into consideration how much tokens were unsold, what percentage of ICO/ coin total supply (if all of the coins are on sale) are left.

Option 1 may look good from perspective of buyer, because as you mentioned, his share increases. However if a lot of coins weren't sold it also means that dev team didn't collect as much funds as they hoped for which may impact future of coin.

Option 2 looks like devs are paid twice, first during the ICO, then they got leftovers for themselves. But if a lot of coins weren't sold it may also motivate them to work harder so unsold tokens increase in value and in the end they can make more money than if 100% were sold during ICO. Unsold coins can be also used for marketing etc. Of course they can also dump them and run away.

Third option is interesting and if done properly can make coin more popular. But I think it should be more of faucet form, because if you airdrop a lot at once token price may decrease as you mentioned + buyers may feel cheated that other people are getting coins for free while they had to pay to get them.

Hi
Tracker sheet for Bitcointalk signature is full of errors (like 99% of some columns) and not single user has post count value filled in, is everything OK with this campaign/ spreadsheet?

Just in case I'm posting picture with my post count as I just joined this campaign:

Hi

I have question about coin forks.

Is there possibility to modify transactions by issuing hard fork?

An example: dev makes mistake and sends part of premine coins to inaccessible (random) addresses instead to investor's addresses.

Networks is working, days go by and then this error is found.

Can dev modify wallet to accept incorrect block that fixes this error by sending coins from this inaccessible addresses to valid ones (maybe even hardcode this block into wallet's code), make this update mandatory and coins will get back where they originally had to go?

Or another option, make snapshot of current blockchain and in the last block of new blockchain before it's released to public add block with invalid transactions that retrieve coins from inaccessible wallets to proper one. In this case such modification could be also made by utilising 51% attack as all miners on the new chain would be dev's, not only by wallet modifications. 

Thanks for help.

Fuck man, I'm really sorry for your loss, got interested in this "investbox" thingy myself but I remembered reading accusations of Yobit being a scam thus I started investigating and found this topic.