I can give you an example out of personal experience: I transferred similar numbers from a Dutch bank to a Spanish one - this is still EU mind you - and as a result my Spanish account (including those funds) got frozen pending "anti terrorism and money laundering" (tax) investigation. Only after I could prove the origin of those funds and all subsequent tax had been paid has the account been released.
for a transfer between two accounts in your own name? damn. if it's a self-transfer between two licensed banks, where is the supposed money laundering risk?! at least if the OP is correct about serbian law---that there are no taxes due on cashing out crypto---then even if that happens, the money should be eventually cleared. this is a case in point for why bitcoin is superior to fiat banking though. no third party bullshit. It's all about the origin of the fiat money (and exactly why there are so many "anti terrorism and money laundering" laws in place nowadays). It is not her crypto that got transferred into fiat into that (first) account, was it? You forget that both fiat, but certainly also the public ledger used in crypto is all public. So unless she can prove when and how she acquired that crypto it should have been taxed as a gift, at least (even if crypto gains are not taxed, you have to prove the origin)... All "suspicious" bank transfers are subject to these laws nowadays. Any serious money that isn't part of any obvious (like work, fund or whatever "regular" income you might have) transfer is "suspicious" until proven otherwise by the account holder... Yes, exactly why crypto - in theory - is superior to fiat. But - unfortunately - we're talking about fiat here... |
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[...]My girlfriend does not have a Belgian bank account yet, so I suppose that no amount would be suspicious in the beginning.
Even when she already has some money on it, it could well be that she had way more on her Serbian account.
We are talking about 5 digits, what concerns me is that my girlfriend could be in trouble because the amount on her Serbian bank account would increase a lot out of nowhere.
Is that something I should worry about?
Thank you. I can give you an example out of personal experience: I transferred similar numbers from a Dutch bank to a Spanish one - this is still EU mind you - and as a result my Spanish account (including those funds) got frozen pending "anti terrorism and money laundering" (tax) investigation. Only after I could prove the origin of those funds and all subsequent tax had been paid has the account been released. |
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Hi Everyone, I recently collected some crypto profits and would like to transfer them to my Belgian bank account (I am also Belgian).
But that means that I have to hand over 33% to the tax authorities.
My girlfriend is Serbian and has a Serbian bank account.
After some research, I discovered that crypto profits in Serbia are not taxed at all.
Is it legal to send my crypto to my girlfriend's wallet, she transfers the amount to her Serbian account and then to her Belgian account?
It seems like a waterproof system, but I am really not entirely sure.
Thanks for helping me with this. As I have told you in the Dutch topic too: tax evasion is illegal. |
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Dag Iedereen, ik heb onlangs wat cryptowinsten bijeengeraapt en zou deze op mijn Belgische bankrekening willen overschrijven (ben zelf ook Belg).
Maar dat houdt in dat ik 33% af moet geven aan de fiscus.
Mijn vriendin is Servische en heeft een een Servische bankrekening.
Na wat research ontdekte ik dat cryptowinsten in Servië helemaal niet belast worden.
Is het legaal om mijn crypto naar de wallet van mijn vriendin te sturen, zij schrijft het bedrag over naar haar Servische rekening en vervolgens naar haar Belgische rekening?
Het lijkt me een waterdicht systeem, maar ben toch echt niet helemaal zeker.
Bedankt om me hiermee te helpen. Wat jij omschrijft is belastingontduiking. Dit is - in tegenstelling to belastingontwijking - illegaal. En daarnaast laat je (of wellicht beter gezegd: jouw vriendin) nog een aanzienlijk spoor achter... misschien gaat het (een tijdje?) goed... succes! |
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Ali nogomet?!? Boze, ne postoji glupljeg sporta!!! Tu ti je najveća lova sbogovac, a svaki sport može biti glup i dosadan. A Johan Cruyff se sad sigurno prevrće u grobu kad te čuje kako pričaš gluposti a živiš u njegovoj zemlji.  Pa ne vrijedi nesto moga vremena samo zato sto je tu neka lova... A taj Jovan koliko god bio dobar filozof, kao nogometas nemam tek respekta za njega. Bolje da se skoncentrisao na finale SP-a umesto sto je visio u dzakuzi sa kurvama, pusio i pio... sada bi Nizozemska barem imala dva SP-a na sebe umesto dvije izgubljene finale...  |
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Gledaš možda Premier League? Tottenham ili Leeds United? Jose Mourinho ili Marcelo Bielsa?? Mogli bi napravati neko malo lokalno zabavno kladjenje Za kladjenje sam ucijek... Ali nogomet?!? Boze, ne postoji glupljeg sporta!!! |
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[...] Weer'n leuk stuk... k'denk alleen dat ETH nog wat tekort wordt gedaan... Ja hij zelf is wel Eth minded ook en bezig met yield farming enz maar niet echt met zijn fonds meer zijn privé Met zijn fonds is hij altijd iets of wat voorzichtiger natuurlijk [img]
Momenteel ziet het er zo uit Een beetje jammer... als ik het Messari rapport mag citeren: Bitcoin may be primed for a big year due to its macro positioning, but it’s Ethereum that
has taken flight as crypto’s most important platform...one that could power an entirely new financial system, and a more open, resilient internet.
Ethereum may have even taken a permanent lead this year versus Bitcoin in terms of economic value transferred on its rails. |
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Dali ce te donacije koje sjednu na rn crvenog kriza biti oporezovane? Ako se dobro sjecam, do 2% prihoda firme se moze dat kao donacija neoporezivo. E sad, neznam kako je sa ovakvim donacijama, al ako se ovakve donacije oporezuju, onda zbilja treba mjenjat sustav iz korijena Ne znam kako je u RH ali u Nizozemskoj i privatne osobe mogu donirati "oficijalnim dobrotvronim organizacijama" iz bruto plate... |
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[...]Slučajevi koje sam naveo odnose se na blisku budućnost ne na trenutno stanje.[...] I nije lose kako razmisljas; u svetu financija je sasvim normalno koristiti "ljestvice" da uvecas efekat. Jedina greska koju pravis je da mijesas kratko/srednje trajne financije sa dugotrajne... Hipoteksko financiranje se uzima na nekih 20-30 godina, a ne na 5... kada to pocnes mijesati ulazis u (pre-)velike rizike. |
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[img] Tako smo sbogovac i ja ranije borili i raspravljali medusobno a sad smo nerazdvojni prijatelji foruma  [...] Eto, i onda bas moras da me spomenes ovdje... Sto ti je to bas trebalo...? U cemu je sad pa opet problem...  |
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[...] Weer'n leuk stuk... k'denk alleen dat ETH nog wat tekort wordt gedaan... |
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Svim forumasima zelim sretnu novu 2021. godinu!!!
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[...] sbogovac [...] Pre vise se sekiras. Ne shvacaj zivot tako ozbiljno. Neces ga prezivijeti i tako i onako... Sretna nova godina, i puno hvala na sav trud!!! |
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Dali ce neki novac doniran preko CK zavrsiti u pogresnim rukama? 100% sigurno (ipak su i to "ljudi").
Ali sam isto 100% siguran da ce daleka vecina tog novaca doci na pravo mijesto.
Svatko ko se krije iza isprike da CK ne valja a i nije u mogucnost sam da ode da pomogne (poput Mladena, kojem skidam kapu) jedino trazi izgovore da ne bih donirao...
My 2c. a svako nek radi kako mu njegov sobstven savjest zeli.
Ja ostajem pri tome: Bravo Marlboroza i Electrocoin!
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Bravo! (Nadam se da je "Americka" notacija u pitanju a ne "Evropska"; 4 tisuca a ne 4...  ) $4K je. Čekam escrow-a da mi pošalje pa da proslijedim u CK. Predpostavljao sam... samo se pravim malo "pametan" za malo humora u ovoj situaciji... mozes zamisliti; za vrijeme blagdane, uz ove temperature... sve isgubiti, nemati ni mjesto za prespaviti, topli tus, presvuci... strasno. Super inicijativa, svaka cast! |
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[...] Dogovorio sam sa cabalism13-om da će se donirati 4,000$ iz fonda na račun crvenog križa. Bravo! (Nadam se da je "Americka" notacija u pitanju a ne "Evropska"; 4 tisuca a ne 4... ) |
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Novi ljudi ocito uopce nisu zainteresirani za bitcointalk i valjda su na nekim drugim platformama. Ako ih ovaj rast cijene bitcoina nije priuklo da se registriraju onda ne znam sta hoce. Forumi opcenito nisu vise popularni kao prije 10-15 godina tako da to ne cudi. Dodaj jos i tehnicku zastarjelost samog foruma koja meni ne smeta jer sam skoro 20 godina na ovakvim forumima ali mladje i nove clanove sigurno odbija i dobijes ovu situaciju. Danas su ljudi više na Twitter, Telegram, Reddit i Discord, a i ja nikada ranije nisam bio neki aktivni forumaš sve do registracije na bitcointalk forum.[...] Lijepo prikazuje danasnje stanje... sve povrsinski i na brzaka... jednostavno nemoguce uci u neku dubinsku raspravu a kamoli dokumentirati nesto za "stalno"... Može biti da bi modernizacija i razvoj neke Bitcointalk mobilne aplikacije popravilo stanje, ali ne slažem se sa onima koji kažu da je forum davno mrtav, iako je prepun spama i sranja.[...] Mozda.. Ali u medjuvremeno, za sve prakticne primedbe... mrtav (moje misljenje, ocito "we agree to disagree", samo da se slozimo da kvantitet ne pravi i kvalitet). [...] Domaci dio je skroz ok i prilicno aktivan. [...] Dovoljno OK da - za sad - ostajem ovdje i malo osmatram (tu i tamo koji merit podijelim itd). A sada da kazem da je neki nivo (usporedjivsi sa n.p. prije 2017.), ne bas. Ova TA analize ja lijepa za vidjeti (da su ljudi zainteresovani prouciti/nauciti). A dalje sad da kazem da me bas zanima sig. kampanje... HW waleti itd... poprilizno "povrsinska" informacija ako mene pitas. Ali OK, tu sam i ja kriv (odmah priznajem). |
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[...] Situacija je po tom pitanju jako losa. [...] Novi ljudi ocito uopce nisu zainteresirani za bitcointalk i valjda su na nekim drugim platformama. Ako ih ovaj rast cijene bitcojna nije provukla, onda ne znam sta hoce. Forumi opcenito nisu vise popularni kao prije 10-15 godina tako da to ne cudi. Dodaj jos i tehnicku zastarjelost samog foruma koja meni ne smeta jer sam 20 godina na ovakvim forumima ali mladje i nove clanove sigurno odbija i dobijes ovu situaciju. Rekao bih: a po kojim pitanjima situacija nije losa na ovom forumu...? Vec davno mrtav (osim ono sto se kopaju po "placenim" kampanjama i za merit) samo jos ne sahranjen... |
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Hi allemaal,
Ik heb een vraag... ik heb €300 aan btc op mijn wallet. Ik zou die willen overzetten op een andere wallet en vervolgens omzetten in euro’s op mijn rekening.
Hoe zou ik dat kunnen doen?
Ik vind zelf BitStamp het handigst /veiligst. |
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[...] U ovoj situaciji je nemoguće bilo što reći, za sad još nema bearish znakova. Teško da ćemo ih i vidjeti unaprijed, vjerojatno će samo u nekom trenutku u 1 sat sve pasti za 30%. E sad, dal će to biti s 27k ili s 65k, s TA stajališta je praktiki nemoguće reći. Upravo tako; HODL for dear life i trailing stop-loss... |
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