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741  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Svađaona on: December 27, 2019, 01:27:06 PM
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Sve mi to liči na Roger Ver-a sa ovom sranje statistikom...     Grin
MORE BABIES ARE DYING BECAUSE...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYlW-gG16k

Nuklearke ne ubijaju...ali zato izazivaju mutacije i razne bolesti, da ne pričamo o nuklearnim bombama koje mogu da okončaju sve za čas...
Ljudi ubijaju, nuklearno oružje je samo najbrži način za to. Nuklearni izvori energije i njihova korisnost ne bi trebali biti stigmatizirani zbog korištenja nuklearnog oružja.
Da se ljudi mogu ubijati vjetrom - vjeruj mi da bi se ubijali.
ili na statistiku da BTC mining trosi vise od same Svajcarske, a sto Alphabet Inc. trosi preko 1% svetske potrosnje energije - nema problema Smiley
Mining nije skup zbog samog mininga. Mining je skup jer puno ljudi želi zaraditi na tome.

Sto je jos najsmesnije u cijelom komentaru (da jos ni ne pricamo o nivou diskusije kada se "statistika" komentarise i dodaju argumenti ad absurdum) je da thorium se ni na koji nacin ne moze koristiti u "pravim" nuklearnim oruzjem (da, u "dirty bomb" bi moglo ali to nije usporedljivo sa nuklearnom bombom).

Ali kao sto sam vec rekao; na zalost se ta diskusija pogotovo vodi na bazi emocije. Uvek dobar savjetnik za bitne odluke...  Lips sealed
742  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Svađaona on: December 27, 2019, 09:35:11 AM
Još jedan tužna novost za sve one koji podržavaju nuklearnu tehologiju Sad
'Switzerland switches off nuclear plant as it begins exit from atomic power'
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-swiss-nuclearpower-idUSKBN1YO19J

 Grin


Malkico "preterana" glava clanka; radi se o zatvaranjem jedne nuklearne centrale stare 47 godina (koja se i treba zatvoriti po svim standardima), a kao sto i sam clanak kaze: "No dates have been set for the shutdown of Switzerland’s other nuclear power stations"...

Stare centrale se i trebaju zatvoriti sto prije. Ali to ni na koji nacin ne kaze ama bas nista o novoj tehnologiji kao thorium centrale koje su puno cisce i sigurnije (plus stabilnije) od bilo koje tehnologije koja nam je momentalno pristupna za generiranje struje...

Na zalost je i Svitsarska "democracija" pa po referendumima neobrazovana vecina uzima neinformisane odluke koje nemaju nikakve veze sa cinjenicama nego su cisto bazirane na emociju.

Prosle godine su cak i vise ljudi umrli od suncane i vetrane energije nego od nuklearne (a jos da ni ne pricamo o uglju u naftu):

743  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Njemačka banka: Kriptovalute će do 2030. godine zamijeniti fiat novac on: December 24, 2019, 01:35:30 PM
Ajd samo jedan mali off-topic kad smo vec stigli do Grka: razlika izmedju Grcke i Hrvatske tragedije je u tome sto je Grcka tragedija zasnovana na mitu, a Hrvatska na mitu i korupciji"...  Lips sealed

744  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Ocene za Trade on: December 24, 2019, 01:23:44 PM
[...] Jako je korisna informacija, nisam znao da se ne uvazava kada neki ne bitan clan ostavi trust.

Dodatne informacije (na Hrvatskom) o trust sustavu mozete procitati ovdje...
745  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Njemačka banka: Kriptovalute će do 2030. godine zamijeniti fiat novac on: December 23, 2019, 08:55:16 AM
Grozno. Mislim, Grci su stvarno u ogromnim problemima ali nije normalno da je odgovor ovako nešto.

Zaista se nadam da se ovo neće proširiti Europom, nekako mislim da na zapadu ipak ne može proći.

Liberalizam. Kako da ne.

Koji liberalizam?!?

Cijelim "slobodnim svijetom" vlada protekcionizam i corporatizam (samo ga politicari moraju "prodavati" kao liberalizam; procitaj cijeli clanak i primeti sta zaista pise, n.p.: "Recently, it was announced that the corporate tax would be cut from 28% to 24%")...

"Liberalizam"  Cheesy Grin Roll Eyes Lips sealed
746  Economy / Reputation / Re: Vod is a liar. on: December 21, 2019, 01:38:51 PM
If anyone is wondering why the lying accusations suddenly stopped [...]

Nah, not really... am wondering however why FFS you would start bumping this thread now Huh

[...] I started this thread to show everyone you are a liar Vod. You have done an excellent job of proving my point and continue to do so. I question the intelligence of someone with failing health who chooses to spend so much of their limited remaining time spreading lies to try and enact revenge against another for not bowing to their trust demands. I can only hope you get some sort of joy from these baseless accusations, otherwise your situation is so sad you’re beginning to draw sympathy from me.

Hi OgNasty! So nice to see you here at the forum!!! Would you please be so nice as to put you money where your mouth is and answer some genuine concerns about your own conduct here... Please?
747  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 21, 2019, 01:38:18 PM
[...] I am seeing a repeating theme of the inversion of the burden of proof and people demanding OGNasty prove his innocence rather than people proving his guilt.

dude:

1. I dind't ask you anything; but,

2. there is proof (both sworn testimony as well as blockchain proof), so now it's only the polite thing to ask for a reply... (from OgNasty).

748  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 21, 2019, 01:23:25 PM
Aaaaand... back on topic:

A reply by OgNasty would be appreciated:

[...] From Og:

I lost my BTC in Bitcoin Savings & Loan along with everyone else.

I did not keep any "refund" for myself.

From Shavers' SEC testimony:

Quote
Q And did you return bitcoins to others during that time period?

A Yes.

Q Who?

...
A Yes. Ognasty, O-g-n-a-s-ty;
...
Q And all the other individuals you named you returned their entire principal amount?

A Their entire balance.


Then you have Exhibit 3 which shows transactions being made to Og, backed by entries on the blockchain.

This is plenty of proof. [...]

So, still the same question for OgNasty:

[...] it would be quite simple:

[Deflection]
C'mon... how hard can it be...?
[...]This is pretty much very simple yes-know question.

@OG have you returned whole amount to depositors? Did pirate return you whole amount, as he claim he did?

and provide the blockchain proof to back his words up... sounds simple enough to me...
749  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 18, 2019, 03:12:33 PM
A reply by OgNasty would be appreciated:

[...] From Og:

I lost my BTC in Bitcoin Savings & Loan along with everyone else.

I did not keep any "refund" for myself.

From Shavers' SEC testimony:

Quote
Q And did you return bitcoins to others during that time period?

A Yes.

Q Who?

...
A Yes. Ognasty, O-g-n-a-s-ty;
...
Q And all the other individuals you named you returned their entire principal amount?

A Their entire balance.


Then you have Exhibit 3 which shows transactions being made to Og, backed by entries on the blockchain.

This is plenty of proof. [...]

So, still the same question for OgNasty:

[...] it would be quite simple:

[Deflection]
C'mon... how hard can it be...?
[...]This is pretty much very simple yes-know question.

@OG have you returned whole amount to depositors? Did pirate return you whole amount, as he claim he did?

and provide the blockchain proof to back his words up... sounds simple enough to me...
750  Local / Markt / Re: Met spoed geld nodig? Wij helpen u verder! on: December 17, 2019, 12:57:26 PM
Over welke wegen heb je het over
Welke payments accepteren julie?
en wat vragen jullie voor fee''s?


Laatste keer online op de dag van zijn post, in crypto-normen is dat ongeveer 3 eeuwen geleden... Maak je geen illusies. Tenzij je natuurlijk je eigen thread tracht te bumpen onder een andere naam. Roll Eyes

Dat, plus het feit dat "newcode" zelf op de dag van zijn post net is geregistreerd als gebruiker doet het vermoeden toch wel groeien dat dit 1 en dezelfde persoon betreft...
751  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 17, 2019, 12:45:52 PM
[...] From Og:

I lost my BTC in Bitcoin Savings & Loan along with everyone else.

I did not keep any "refund" for myself.

From Shavers' SEC testimony:

Quote
Q And did you return bitcoins to others during that time period?

A Yes.

Q Who?

...
A Yes. Ognasty, O-g-n-a-s-ty;
...
Q And all the other individuals you named you returned their entire principal amount?

A Their entire balance.


Then you have Exhibit 3 which shows transactions being made to Og, backed by entries on the blockchain.

This is plenty of proof. [...]

So, still the same question for OgNasty:

[...] it would be quite simple:

[Deflection]
C'mon... how hard can it be...?
[...]This is pretty much very simple yes-know question.

@OG have you returned whole amount to depositors? Did pirate return you whole amount, as he claim he did?

and provide the blockchain proof to back his words up... sounds simple enough to me...
752  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 13, 2019, 12:33:50 PM
[...] Just because their feud may have spurned up someone like TwitchSeal who has shown newer evidence to suggest OgNasty is much worse than a liar, if what I'm seeing is accurate with the numbers pirateat40 confirmed under oath, and what OgNasty publicly proclaimed to his investors, I think there would be a valid trade complaint here. [...]

We basically agree; what I told Tecshare was about the (prolonged) feud between Vod and OgNasty (and the quote you refer to is in that context).

But regarding this issue in this topic I was clear:

[...] it would be really nice (especially for OgNasty's own reputation) if this was to be cleared up crystal clear. [...]

So...

[...] Why should OG reply to you harpies? There is nothing logical or rational he can say that will stop this ceaseless series of attacks on his character, because it is based on targeting the individual, not on facts or logic. There is no path to redemption with you people, which is why people like me will consistently tell you to go fuck yourselves and get a life of your own rather than harassing people on the internet.

Actually, it would be quite simple:

[Deflection]
C'mon... how hard can it be...?
[...]This is pretty much very simple yes-know question.

@OG have you returned whole amount to depositors? Did pirate return you whole amount, as he claim he did?

and provide the blockchain proof to back his words up... sounds simple enough to me...

753  Local / Trgovina / Re: [P] Mining rig 6x RX580 8GB on: December 13, 2019, 09:45:19 AM
Kao što naslov kaže, prodajem mining rig. [...]

Izvinjujem se sto reagiram "off-topic" jer sam vec godinama prestao sa mining ali...

Moram priznati da rig izgleda FANTASTICNO; i estetski i funkcijonalno (ukjlucujuci "kill-switch").

SVAKA CAST MAJSTORU!!!

I zelim puno srece pri prodaji.
754  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Najbolji stablecoin on: December 13, 2019, 09:28:56 AM
Zato barem daje lijepe mogucnosti za arbitrazu (ako koristis bot za trejdovanje)...  Lips sealed
Nisam nikad, bojim se toga. Informatički sam blento a taman kad sam ušao u kripto je bilo par hackova tih bot API-ja pa jednostavno mislim da je rizik korištenja toga za nekog poput mene previsok.

(Jako) Dobar "prvi korak"; poznavati samog sebe... bravo!  Grin

A vidi sada: ja se "vec" bavim informaticom od 1984. I nisam "glup" (fakultetski obrazovan i iskusan) i ipak mi prije par tijedna ukrali par tisuca Eura upravo preko API. Mislio sam da sam se "dovoljno osigurao" (nikad API delio s'nekim, koristio IP whitelist, disabled withdrawal na API itd) i sta je sada novo: "oni" skuzili slabost u GUI (preko browsera); preuzeli bot i trejdovali na taj/moj account protiv svojih nekih shit-coinova (ja kao kupujem skupo i prodajem jeftino). Znaci nisu izvukli preko withdrawal! Pametno (ali im je&0 pa$ ma}@&)!!! posto je preko mog API-a i IP-a exchange me ne nadoknadjuje... zatvorio sam rupu u GUI (opet naucio nesto), zahvalio se bogu da imam dobar risk menadzment (rasporedba preko vise investicija/media itd), i sto sam uopste primjetio (a ne kao neki koji misle da je bot fire-and-forget), steta prilicno sitna i idemo dalje...

 

755  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Što nas očekuje u 2020. godini on: December 13, 2019, 09:19:55 AM
[...] zaboravite altove...eventualno short term. ljudi provalili da je vecina scam sa pustim obecanjima...ako btc prodje, bit ce super...

ako ste trejderi zelim vam puno srece, jer ce vam trebat Smiley ako imate posao, laganica 10-20% od place svaki mjesec u btc i prst u uho. tako bi spizdili tih 20ak posto na neke gluposti Smiley

Imate pravo na svoje misljenje ali meni (kao "believer" i kao "trajder") vase misljenje se malo cini "2017"... da objasnim moj osobni stav:

1. Ima i tekako "dobrih" altcoinova (sami ste vec rekli:"zaboravite altove [...] vecina [je] scam sa pustim obecanjima"; vecina da, ali ima par (jako) dobrih: na primijer ETH i puno ERC tokena bazirani na ETH koji vec dan danas imaju uspijesne upotrebe IRL (ERC1155 za gaming, Nike [cryptokicks] i ERC20 Gunthy token za license management).

2. Trejderu (pravom trejderu, ne ovim da-ne-kazem-kojima) nije potrebno "puno srece"; on radi svoju (fundamentalnu/technicku) analizu, pravi svoj (short/long term) plan, i pridrzava se tome (sa sto manje emocijama). A vas plan je sasvim solidan plan za vecinu "obicnih" ljudi (HODL [BTC/ETH] for dear life)...

Srecno (svima)!
756  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: IDAX is it SCAM? on: December 13, 2019, 09:06:33 AM
the real exchange is idex.market idax is a scam clone.

As already said just a couple of posts before yours:

[...] I was just thinking that  IDAX was a decentralized exchange so how can they scam when everyone have control over their private key in decentralized exchange ? Is it so ?

You're thinking of IDEX (with an E, not IDAX with an A)...
757  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 13, 2019, 08:52:25 AM
[edited out]
Now we can discuss the extent to which one is more harmful than the other, but I (and - again - I suspect more people around here) am (are) not up for that.
It is difficult to appreciate your perspective, sbogovac, in terms of your seeming desire to speak up for what is good or not good for the forum community, regarding forum topics to be discussed and/or explored.  

Twitchy is providing evidence and arguments for a theory.  Of course, some other members are throwing in their perspective, too and providing links to other evidence and theories in a kind of crowd sourcing way (that sometimes might support existing evidence and arguments and sometimes negate the same), and it is up to members (including yourself) to decide for themselves the extent that they are "up to it" or not and whether they are going to give such evidence and logic any weight at all or completely say that Twitchy and others who support such Twitchy evidence and logic is full of shit or not.

If you read back a couple of posts you will notice I am saying nothing about Twitchy's argument(-ation). I simply reacted to Tecshare's statement that a legendary member was engaging in "petty interpersonal battles" with another legendary member. And pointing out that that behaviour was mutual.

Now, if you think that that behaviour (by either one of them) is actually doing anything good for this community you'r totally entitled to that opinion. Mine should be clear by now, but let me quote someone who put it much more clearly then me:

Quote from: theymos

Which, BTW, brings us back on topic; because it would be really nice (especially for OgNasty's own reputation) if this was to be cleared up crystal clear. But I also do not really see any "real trade complaint"...  Lips sealed
758  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 12, 2019, 03:33:01 PM
[...]
You're comparing apple's and oranges, I only referred to the two threads who are basically the same petty $%^*(&&...

The one has done a lot of "policing" on this forum (stepping on a lot of toes while doing so) and the other one has mainly used this forum for his own financial gain (making a lot of people look green with envy). Not supporting either one, nor condemning either one (although; yes, the one might have been a bit more tactfull and the other might have used a bit better judgment in appraising opportunities).

But you must admit that both threads turned out to be nothing more than "petty interpersonal battles" (as you say), by both...  Lips sealed

PS and doing more harm to this forum and community than contributing...

You are the one comparing apples and oranges. I didn't make a comparison, I pointed out your comparison is a false equivalence because their behavior is no where near comparable. Petty bickering is one thing, perpetual organized attacks on targeted users abusing the forums trust systems and using the force of the state as a weapon is not comparable. One is distinctly more dangerous to this community than the other.

It's obvious you are on OgNasty's side. That's your prerogative.

I'm just pointing out they are both prolonging "petty interpersonal battles" that are harmful to this community either way.

Now we can discuss the extent to which one is more harmful than the other, but I (and - again - I suspect more people around here) am (are) not up for that. As I already said:

[...] by now I - personally - (and I suspect a lot of other users too) cannot take either "side" too seriously any more... too bad.

Just leaving this out here - again:

Quote from: theymos
759  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Najbolji stablecoin on: December 12, 2019, 09:06:53 AM
[...]Ovaj BitUSD skače ko random shitcoin Grin
Ako se ne varam, on je bio prvi stablecoin a zašto se jedini još uvijek ne ponašakao takav - e to stvarno nemam pojma.

Zato barem daje lijepe mogucnosti za arbitrazu (ako koristis bot za trejdovanje)...  Lips sealed
760  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OgNasty Ponzi passthrough and ponzi fans.. BTC losses everywhere he goes on: December 12, 2019, 08:43:33 AM
[...]
[...] all you are concerned with is the perception of control that attempting to use the state to fight your petty interpersonal battles gives you. You really honestly are a pathetic excuse for a human being and it is far past time you are shunned from this community for your endless power tripping psychotic abusive behavior.[...]
Do you tell OgNasty - regarding this thread - that too? Basically a case of "what goes around, comes around" isn't it...?

And time to stop has long passed (in both threads). Even theymos asked nicely:
Quote from: theymos
But by now I - personally - (and I suspect a lot of other users too) cannot take either "side" too seriously any more... too bad.
I did not. Feel free to quote if you think I am wrong. I don't support your false equivalence. Vod has a long history of perusing his personal vendettas using every forum rule, community, and even the state to attack people who dare speak critically of him. OGNasty does not. They are no where near the same, so your "what goes around, comes around." colloquialism is meaningless in this context. [...]

You're comparing apple's and oranges, I only referred to the two threads who are basically the same petty $%^*(&&...

The one has done a lot of "policing" on this forum (stepping on a lot of toes while doing so) and the other one has mainly used this forum for his own financial gain (making a lot of people look green with envy). Not supporting either one, nor condemning either one (although; yes, the one might have been a bit more tactfull and the other might have used a bit better judgment in appraising opportunities).

But you must admit that both threads turned out to be nothing more than "petty interpersonal battles" (as you say), by both...  Lips sealed

PS and doing more harm to this forum and community than contributing...
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