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41  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do people around you think about Bitcoin ? on: December 08, 2015, 07:49:21 PM
I found computer illiterate members of the older generation of pensioners haven't heard about Bitcoin. The ones who refuse to go near a computer don't understand the concept when you try explaining it to them. They stop you half way through your explanation, ask "is it something to do with computers", then refuse to listen to any more of your explanation.
42  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Death to Bitcoin* on: December 08, 2015, 07:26:48 PM


$12k to get on a plane for a few days? guess he stayed at the hilton




It costs between $150 and $500 a night to stay at one of the London Hiltons. That leaves a remainder of more than $10k to explain. Did he fly there and back by a personally chartered private jet for his exclusive use? I bet you could afford one of those for less than 10k. Politicians are always getting caught fiddling their expenses, and the Bitcoin Foundation seems to have taken a leaf out of their book.
43  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SEC charges Joshua Garza for conducting a Ponzi scheme and defrauding investors on: December 01, 2015, 10:50:33 PM
I never found out how much Garza made from his scheme until now. It says he made $19 million from the whole thing including his coin. I hope the investors get all their money back. The way he conducted business fits the model of a Ponzi scheme. I remember he said his coin was guaranteed a value of $20, then denied he ever said it after it started crashing.

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-faces-ponzi-scheme-charges-from-sec/

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The SEC said that Garza and GAW earned roughly $19 million in revenue from the scheme, which evolved from hardware hosting to cloud mining to the eventual launch of an alternative cryptocurrency and has as many as 10,000 customers and investors.

I'm not sure what kind of form or process could have international people who bought in get some kind of refund on their purchases. Is it even possible?

I hope they all get their money back, but I'm skeptical international investors will get much, if anything back.

The Mississippi Power Company is owed money and has won a court judgment, but it's still struggling to get its money back. Small investors don't have armies of lawyers like the Mississippi Power Company, and international small investors might have less legal rights than American citizens.

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A former utility provider for the firm, Mississippi Power Company, recent won a default judgment and recently told CoinDesk that it is "using all available remedies to collect the monies owed by GAW Miners"
44  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SEC charges Joshua Garza for conducting a Ponzi scheme and defrauding investors on: December 01, 2015, 09:59:58 PM
I never found out how much Garza made from his scheme until now. It says he made $19 million from the whole thing including his coin. I hope the investors get all their money back. The way he conducted business fits the model of a Ponzi scheme. I remember he said his coin was guaranteed a value of $20, then denied he ever said it after it started crashing.

http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-faces-ponzi-scheme-charges-from-sec/

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The SEC said that Garza and GAW earned roughly $19 million in revenue from the scheme, which evolved from hardware hosting to cloud mining to the eventual launch of an alternative cryptocurrency and has as many as 10,000 customers and investors.
45  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/transparency/ on: December 01, 2015, 08:04:32 PM
Didn't the Bitcoin Foundation used to pay the core devs? Who pays them now most of the Bitcoin Foundation's executives are in jail, and the organisation isn't making money anymore? I know some devs will work for nothing, but I should have thought the top ones want paying a good wage.
46  Economy / Speculation / Re: The manipulators on: December 01, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
I think they are out to screw as much money out of the market as possible by pumping and dumping. They don't care if it's going to the moon, or if it will die. They don't care if their pumps and dumps eventually kill it, they only want as much short term profit as they can screw out of the market by manipulating all the little fish.
47  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Guns from the Paris Attacks, bought using Bitcoin ? on: December 01, 2015, 07:14:56 PM
Every time the Dark Web is mentioned, people immediately accept that Bitcoin was associated with it, they would not have used stolen credit cards or hacked PayPal accounts...

No No No.... it has to be Bitcoin. So if these guys, went there and they did odd jobs for cash and they used that cash to buy knifes and they stabbed people to death... would

they have made accusations against cash or the store where it was bought? Guess not... It's just that Bitcoin is special.
No gun illegal gun merchant would accept stolen credit cards or hacked Paypal accounts. And they've already arrested the illegal gun merchant. And terrorists would most likely not use a regular gun shot. Because, you know, they're terrorists.

You have any proof of that? In my country, you can buy a gun on the streets without a credit card or PayPal and
nobody will ask any questions. How would a gun shop owner know it is a stolen credit card, if it is accompanied with
a fake ID document? All these things can be bought online.  Roll Eyes

Suppose someone bought a gun with a stolen credit card before the credit card owner realized it had been stolen. How could a gun shop refuse that stolen credit card before it had been reported stolen? The shop could do a check on the card to ascertain if it's reported stolen, but if the check came up clean how could the shop know it's stolen?

If it was accompanied with fake ID the shop would sell without a shadow of a doubt. Try buying a gun with Bitcoin in that shop and you would ge refused. Freshly stolen credit cards would be useful for buying uns from brick and mortar shops, not Bitcoin.
48  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Apple CEO Tim Cook: “Your kids will not know what money is” on: November 18, 2015, 06:50:13 PM
If our kids will not know what money is why are they introducing plastic bank notes? Most countries are planning to introduce them over the next few years because they last longer than paper money. Why put all that effort into designing and introducing them into circulation if all governments intend to get rid of paper money completely?
49  Economy / Speculation / Re: Collusion of buying BTC on: November 18, 2015, 11:38:38 AM
pump and dump groups have happened before.
the moral of the story is.. the person shouting the buy signal to members,, already bought before shouting buy... then waits for everyone else to push the price.. and then the organizer sells right before shouting to everyone else to sell..

end results.. only the organizer makes noticeable gains while everyone else is panic buying and selling in the middle..

it does not help cause any real long term rises. and just causes crappy speculative spikes..

if your going to do it.. do it with the pennystock (altcoins)

Wolong did that to Dogecoin and other alts. He made a fortune pumping the price and dumping on his co-conspirators. He never tried the same stunt with Bitcoin because it costs too much money to manipulate Bitcoin's price. Five million dollars spread across all the exchanges that matter isn't enough tp pump Bitcoin.



You understand that if we implement the idea - it would be super?

No, it would be horrible for all the mugs who got dumped on. The only person it would be super for is the organizer. Most of the people who joined in on Wolong's pumps were scammed when he dumped on them.
50  Economy / Speculation / Re: Collusion of buying BTC on: November 18, 2015, 11:27:57 AM
pump and dump groups have happened before.
the moral of the story is.. the person shouting the buy signal to members,, already bought before shouting buy... then waits for everyone else to push the price.. and then the organizer sells right before shouting to everyone else to sell..

end results.. only the organizer makes noticeable gains while everyone else is panic buying and selling in the middle..

it does not help cause any real long term rises. and just causes crappy speculative spikes..

if your going to do it.. do it with the pennystock (altcoins)

Wolong did that to Dogecoin and other alts. He made a fortune pumping the price and dumping on his co-conspirators. He never tried the same stunt with Bitcoin because it costs too much money to manipulate Bitcoin's price. Five million dollars spread across all the exchanges that matter isn't enough tp pump Bitcoin.
51  Economy / Marketplace / Re: any Halloween promotion in Bitcoin? on: October 30, 2015, 11:04:01 AM
I couldn't find any promotions except from some online casinos which are offering "free Bitcoins" for Halloween, but you probably have to deposit more than they give you, and spend your "free Bitcoins" on betting games. There's got to be other catches like you can't withdraw small amounts, and what they give you is below the withdrawal limit.
52  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ashley Madison spambot extortion address? on: October 30, 2015, 10:55:57 AM
Some Russian extortion bot is spamming the Ashley Madison email list with a canned threat and bitcoin address to send the funds. See:

http://nypost.com/2015/10/29/the-storm-isnt-over-yet-for-ashley-madison-cheaters/

Does anybody know what the address is? I want to find out how much the Russkies are making.

Come on, fess up. I know at least one of you losers had an Ashley Madison account. Oh, wait you have to be married to do that. Maybe not then.

Here is another one of the addresses. 1NfbMT1SpGfxwyaGJXjBt1VsUD7hy9pt2B   

They were one of the first ransom letters out there and they were asking for 10 bitcoins.  Looks like 5 people paid.  I would say all the e-mails are probably being flooded now, And people know that paying won't stop anything.

http://hidebox.org/mail/robin-christman----wa-98597--us-spam-dave-1112596839

I started tracing those Bitcoins but they have probably been sent through a mixer because they get split up and sent to loads of different addresses. The blackmailer will probably take a trip out of Russia and swap them for fiat at a foreign ATM if he's really from Russia. There are no questions asked Russian hosting services that people from all over the world use, so the blackmailer could be from anywhere and using A Russian service to host his extortion bot.
53  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the Banking Industry kill Bitcoin and keep the Blockchain? on: October 13, 2015, 10:07:26 PM
Every financial institution and every Bank seem to have their eyes set on the bitcoin and bitcoin these days... But being Bitcoin as a currency the main competitor to banks and the traditional financial system, won't it be possible to see Banks trying to stifle bitcoin while investing in the Blockchain?

They might use their own blockchains but it wont kill bitcoin. Bank's blockchains will just be centralized and wont be their own currencies so bitcoin will still thrive as an alternative to the mainstream and that's why it is still valuable.

They were researching ripple and considering starting their own blockchain based on its technology, but it's centralized. If the server, or set of servers running it go down then the entire network goes offline. A government, hackers, or the banks themselves could switch off the network by going after the servers.

The Bitcoin network never goes offline, you can always access your money stored in it. Sometimes the bank's debit card network goes offline. If they had their own blockchain that wouldn't be reliable all the time either.
54  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do girls use Bitcoin ? on: October 13, 2015, 09:42:31 PM
According to cryptocoinsnews any post by a woman here is instantly replied to with a barrage of sexist abuse. Cryptocoinsnews adds that the bitcoin community is 95% male.

I have seen posts by women here that were treated no worse than the posts made by men, and I have never witnessed barrages of sexist abuse at any posts made by women. In fact I found women tend to be treated with more respect than men on bitcointalk. I don't know how the researcher cryptocoinsnews quoted worked out that only 5% of the bitcoin community are women, I don't think it's possible to work out the true figure. This thread still hasn't conclusively proved any figures yet.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoiners-sexism/

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...when a woman makes a post on popular forum BitcoinTalk, she can be greeted with “TITS or GTFO.”

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...as recently as two years ago, UCL researcher Lui Smyth surveyed the Bitcoin community and found it to be 95% male. In more recent surveys, numbers have been similar
55  Economy / Speculation / Re: ETA for the ETF? (and Gemini Exchange speculation) on: October 01, 2015, 11:52:37 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/gemini-exchange-moves-toward-launch-nydfs-approvals/?utm_content=buffer947c1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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Further, he said that restrictions on fiat lending were unlikely to apply to its bitcoin activities, suggesting that this leaves the company open to adding other financial instruments like derivatives, swaps and futures pending dialogue with the CFTC.

This!

That Coindesk story says Gemini will need to pass subsequent approvals before it can serve US customers. Exactly what extra approvals will it have to pass, and how long will they be expected to take? Until they can serve US customers they won't start serving foreign customers. I thought Gemini would have been open months ago, and it's so long since the last time I heard anything about it that I'd given up looking for stories about it.


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A spokesperson for the NYDFS indicated that Gemini would need to pass subsequent approvals before being able to serve US customers, adding:

"There are still additional steps for final approval of a charter."
56  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
Another 22k volume 3m bar over at OKCoin - this time it moved the price 0.0 (maybe 0.2) yuan.

 Tongue

The Coinmarketcap Bitcoin markets page has a special category at the bottom of the page for markets with no trading fees. Any of those markets are denoted with * to signify "Volume Excluded - No Trading Fees". The OkCoin Intl.   BTC/USD market has fees and is included in Coinmarketcap's volume calculations. The OKCoin.cn   BTC/CNY market has no fees, and is excluded. Its volume is more than ten times higher than the market with fees today.

OkCoin Intl.   BTC/USD   $ 1,341,280   
OKCoin.cn   BTC/CNY   $ 25,663,300 *

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#markets

Any markets without fees are a joke for calculating volume from, and thankfully Coinmarketcap ignores them all.
57  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2015, 06:13:50 PM
How do bots equate to fake trading? These days people trade with bots. In regards to Bitstamp.. I just got $15 of fee credit for free. I think they're handing out party flyers.

I haven't logged into my Bitstamp account for ages. I'll have to log in and find out if I've been given any free fee credits. They occasionally have a month with no trading fees. Free fee credits might be a cheaper way of tempting people to trade there. I don't think ordinary traders using bots is fake trading but if an exchange with fees uses its own bots to make trades without paying any fees, then it's fake trading to make it appear that exchange's volume is higher than it actually is.
58  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Karpeles trial on: October 01, 2015, 05:58:14 PM
The latest information I heard was Karples has been charged with embezzlement, but has the option of petitioning the court for release pending trial. Trials can take months before they start and be held up for innumerable reasons. It might still be ongoing this time next year if Karples defense gets the trial adjourned enough times. If he gets found guilty they will probably appeal the decision too so the end of the trial might not be the conclusion of the whole affair.
59  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Rising on Reddit] Bitpay Reportedly Lays Off Most of Entire Staff on: September 25, 2015, 10:48:54 AM
So what would happen to all of the companies that accept Bitcoin through Bitpay if Bitpay is to cease its existence? Would we all of the sudden stay without almost half of our merchants? This would suck and it would surely cause the blow to whole Bitcoin economy!

I am sure this is all connected to the recent news on how they have been hacked for almost $2 million. Nothing good will come out of this I am afraid!

Nonsense. Pure nonsense

Bitcoin doesn't exist to buy game credits on Microsoft store.

The reason why they have to cut costs is that barely any of their merchants are seeing any sale from Bitcoin acceptance and therefore they aren't generating any revenue whatsoever.

It's quite a coincidence they decided to cut costs by sacking most of their staff straight after news of the hack got out. They must know they will lose business because some merchants will lose their trust in Bitpay. Its reputation has been damaged so badly I wonder if it can survive in the long term. According to coindesk the average daily volume of Bitpay was $435,000 in 2014. However, I can't find any information on what the average daily volume of Bitpay was in 2015, but they must still have been generating some volume before the hack was exposed.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-on-the-dark-web-the-facts/
60  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 25, 2015, 10:26:45 AM
seemingly the same amounts being sold & bought repeatedly
Ye I just saw that. Broken bot or volume manipulation ?


Funny whether other exchanges will follow, or we end up stuck in the mid-$230s... then over the weekend, isnt there more likely fuel for dumping rather than pumping?  Then we will be back to $227-ish?
If you look at the volume on a larger scale it actually looks like massive volumes of BTC were purchased on Bitstamp. still theres no telling if its real or fake.

If its real then some massive companies are accumulating tens of thousands of coins (the volume on bitstamp would actually be unbelievable in this case and bitfinex would no longer be the largest exchange).
If its fake, then who is paying the trading fees and why? or is bitstamp themselves faking the volume like the chinese exchanges always do?



I noticed there are lots of little trades backwards and forwards for small amounts like 0.05 BTC on Bitstamp. They can be bought and sold back again in the space of minutes. It often looks like the work of bots to me, and I often wonder if Bitstamp themselves control the bots. 0.05 BTC is only worth $12, and I doubt their are hundreds of traders all furiously trading such small amounts. I suspect most exchanges use bots to inflate their daily volume.
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