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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: July 21, 2014, 09:33:49 AM
Something has been already made about inflation ? That's weird, it seems like it stopped dropping and volume is really low

...Or is it just a small break ?

Multipools stopped dumping (mining) or we got a buy support to stabilize the price.
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: July 20, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
The next true step for Einsteinium is to create a new system for donating to crowd funded science projects while simultaneously putting buy support on our coin. I have thought about this immensely and I will soon introduce a "white paper" and concept for the new tool.

Why not simply give them an ''how-to'' use the wallets, ask them the address they have created and send them emc2 directly. you give them informations on how the crypto world works, the mining, the exchanges, how the stakes works and then you show them sites to convert to fiat if they want to now. If they want to wait, you just got new members in the CC world.

We have to let them decide if they want to be part of the CC world or just want the fiat funds.
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: July 20, 2014, 06:30:17 PM

What's the plan after the switch to PoS. Any promotion, upgrade to the wallet or features that could bring attention? We know nothing and for the community it's not a good sign.


this coin had an action/rescue plan and a development committee where did they go?

don't tell me they spat the dummy just because they didn't want to change the name.
or was it all just hot air?


I think it was internal conflicts on how to handle things with einsteinium foundation that destroyed everything.
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: July 20, 2014, 01:07:14 PM
I urge you all to watch what is happening with vericoin before moving to PoS.

over the weekend mintpal was hacked 30% of vericoins  (8M) were stolen.
the devs fearing 51% rolled back their blockchain in order to stop the theft.

this has created a huge controversy which can be seen in full detail on the vericoin thread (and the various a news articles)

they did this because if a thief gains 51% of a PoS coin they can have majority control of the coin forever because they can stake and very easily keep creating new coins.

this is not the same thing as a 51% PoW attack which only gives the attacker limited control while they hold 51% of the mining power.

PoS encourages hoarding and centralization of power more so than PoW...
the effects are amplified the smaller the coin.

I expect in the future we will see more PoS coins suffer from this vulnerability

I understand but emc2 need to do something to survive and the majority of people speaking wish for PoS. Will it change the way Emc2 is seen in the CC sphere, i don't know. Algo switch or switching to PoS doesn't do a thing if nobody knows it exist. People need to use it and right now everything is just a big speculative bubble.

What help emc2 prevent the kind of events that happened to VRC is that a lot of coins are already out, so harder for someone to steal the coins and get 51%. The volume is spread on 3 exchanges so i don't think it could happen to this coin but we never know.

indeed the majority of people will only support an action which benefits themselves in the short term.. this is the problem that politicians in all democracies face when they make policy decisions. Its also why we have such a corrupt and broken fiat system.

this is why I gave up arguing the toss on this forum.. I only posted that statement because real world events have demonstrated very clearly how vulnerable PoS can be.

I would rather see the coin prosper and grow in the longer term but if people are willing to risk that for the sake of short term gains then I wont continue to waste my energy arguing... I'll just check in from time to time with a comment here and there.

ultimately if the majority of people get what the want and the price rises in the short term then people like myself who do not support PoS systems in any large way will have a chance to exit the system.

As much as i want emc2 to survive and grow, i still believe that technicality changes won't do much since we need to be known. This change, it's true, is only for short term gain (i hope i'm wrong). We're supposed to be a science coin, why aren't we contacting science magazines, organizations, etc. to get them involved in the coin? They're the ones that will benefit from this coin.
I really hope the switch will help emc2 but after the switch we will probably see a pump then a dump, sadly. This coin was supposed to be one of a kind, now it will become one of many without nothing to differenciate it.


+1

Changing the fundamentals of a coin violates the first axiom of a cryptocurrency, the one which makes a cryptocurrency different (and more reliable) than fiat currencies. It should avoided unless absolutely necessary. We should focus instead on promoting the coin within the scientific community, as I've been repeating for months, this and only this would give the coin a value - anything else are just gambler's speculations. But except a few isolated voices, like the ones which I'm quoting, most of the community which writes on the thread seem not to get it, and hopes that value would appear by magic just by messing with the fundamentals.

Sadly a lot of people don't understand that following a hype don't bring much. Everybody want PoS but who brought any idea on how to help emc2 in any other way? Not a lot, we can clearly see what's happening, people that want to find a way for emc2 to get a pump. Nothing else, is it people looking for quick bucks? Maybe, will it loose it legitimacy? hope not. But without a team behind it and a team promoting it, not much will happen no matter how many changes we make to technical aspect of the coin. We shouldn't be suppose to rely on only one person to give update on the coin.

What's the plan after the switch to PoS. Any promotion, upgrade to the wallet or features that could bring attention? We know nothing and for the community it's not a good sign.

If the development team need members, we need to find people to fill those seats. Same for the promotion team, we can't stay here waiting for things to change, it won't happen.

So dev we need a good and detailed description of what need to be done to put that train back on track. After that we will be able to work as a community to bring back this coin where it was.
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: July 18, 2014, 09:47:34 PM
Vert sucks, because of vert asics. Vertcoin isnt asic proof, asics exist - this explains constant price drop... thats the truth..

you do not even know how it works vert!
ignorance is bliss!

one day I'll see you here in the forum saying well vertcoin!


Just type in google n-scrypt miner... Avalaible next month for public. Sorry, your ignorance sucsk... Now they testing / mining/ selling since 3 months..... Execoin devs make hard fork, Verts devs make shit/ tolds storys about inflation... Look at darkcoin, price lokks diferents from verts..

Coming from a execoin lover we know now why all the hate towards vert Wink
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SBC]SailboatCoin X15 POW/POS - NO IPO - Just launch -Exchange soon.. on: July 17, 2014, 04:00:47 PM

At least, now it doesn't take time before people realize the scam.
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SFR] SaffronCoin Multi Algo X11|Blake - NEW Anonymous Encrypted Messaging on: July 17, 2014, 09:38:15 AM
dev,72 coins per block is too mach ,we need  Block reward halves  to 36 coins Or less.This will attract more investors

Dev said they will be looking into reducing supply once SFRBit and SFRSend are ready if I remember correctly.

He also said they were looking and discussing with the community if they should apply the DRK model where less coins are being produced the more hash is being thrown at the network.

More hash per algo or for the entire network? If they manage to do something like DRK for a multi algo without penalizing the lower hash algos, it will be pretty impressive. if they do it they are beasts :p
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMS, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Pearl, @Poloniex.com on: July 17, 2014, 01:19:17 AM
don't keep them on the exchange unless you want to sell.... they won't stake over there...

Well, they will stake over there, but the exchange will probably take the profit for themselves...

You could imagine an exchange which shared its profits from staking customer coins with the customers to give them a competitive advantage - "sell your clams on our exchange and we'll share their staking profits with you until they sell".

C-CEX ( not my favorite for sure BUT.... ) actually does split the stake up amongst ENRG coin holders when ENRG stakes...
The only ones that do as far as I know...

kingcoiny does it too with HC
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: July 15, 2014, 10:55:43 PM
Guys i've been saving 200VTC from 2 months ago. they were about 0.2btc. now theyre about 0.07btc

do you see any reason the value will come back up in the next month?

thank you

http://www.reddit.com/r/vertcoin/comments/2aspyz/new_feature_shark_bite_subsidy_directed_at/ devs current option to multipool dumping. We can't tell you what to do. rough time for VTC, but some of the best devs in the CC world working on this coin.
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★★ DigiByte ★★ [DGB] ✈ DigiShield ✔ v2.9.1 ✔ Multi-AlgoTest @ 8 PM UTC Tomorrow! on: July 15, 2014, 05:55:26 PM
Bittrex is where the volume will be, so DigiByte needs to be on that exchange. Not on Poloniex, lol. Don't see why.

As long as there's volume on the exchange DGB is listed on, i don't see any problem being listed on polo
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: July 15, 2014, 05:51:07 PM
price going down ver bad

not true: polo stable at 38.5k
 cryptsy stable at 38.7k
 mintpal at 41k

it's still around the same price it was yesterday. Don't try to create panic sell.
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMS, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Pearl, @Poloniex.com on: July 15, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
Anybody else had problems syncing? my wallet is stuck 1600 blocks behing even after i uninstalled and reinstalled it doesn't sync. Someone can help me out on this one?  Grin

current block is 35643
1600 blocks behind ~34000

there was mandatory wallet update for block 34000

i think you need to update wallet


Oh ok thanks.

It worked, thanks for the answer Smiley
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMS, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Pearl, @Poloniex.com on: July 15, 2014, 03:58:44 PM
Anybody else had problems syncing? my wallet is stuck 1600 blocks behing even after i uninstalled and reinstalled it doesn't sync. Someone can help me out on this one?  Grin
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: July 15, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
POS coins are starting to get exposed. Two coins in a week are talking rollback.

What is the other coin?

Hope people will stop the hype about PoS and start working on innovation and not copy/paste coins without bringing anything new.
I know there's some devs workings hard to help CC grow, vert's devs are included. Hope the hard working minority will surpass the masses of sheeps.
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: July 15, 2014, 03:44:43 PM
I urge you all to watch what is happening with vericoin before moving to PoS.

over the weekend mintpal was hacked 30% of vericoins  (8M) were stolen.
the devs fearing 51% rolled back their blockchain in order to stop the theft.

this has created a huge controversy which can be seen in full detail on the vericoin thread (and the various a news articles)

they did this because if a thief gains 51% of a PoS coin they can have majority control of the coin forever because they can stake and very easily keep creating new coins.

this is not the same thing as a 51% PoW attack which only gives the attacker limited control while they hold 51% of the mining power.

PoS encourages hoarding and centralization of power more so than PoW...
the effects are amplified the smaller the coin.

I expect in the future we will see more PoS coins suffer from this vulnerability

I understand but emc2 need to do something to survive and the majority of people speaking wish for PoS. Will it change the way Emc2 is seen in the CC sphere, i don't know. Algo switch or switching to PoS doesn't do a thing if nobody knows it exist. People need to use it and right now everything is just a big speculative bubble.

What help emc2 prevent the kind of events that happened to VRC is that a lot of coins are already out, so harder for someone to steal the coins and get 51%. The volume is spread on 3 exchanges so i don't think it could happen to this coin but we never know.

indeed the majority of people will only support an action which benefits themselves in the short term.. this is the problem that politicians in all democracies face when they make policy decisions. Its also why we have such a corrupt and broken fiat system.

this is why I gave up arguing the toss on this forum.. I only posted that statement because real world events have demonstrated very clearly how vulnerable PoS can be.

I would rather see the coin prosper and grow in the longer term but if people are willing to risk that for the sake of short term gains then I wont continue to waste my energy arguing... I'll just check in from time to time with a comment here and there.

ultimately if the majority of people get what the want and the price rises in the short term then people like myself who do not support PoS systems in any large way will have a chance to exit the system.

As much as i want emc2 to survive and grow, i still believe that technicality changes won't do much since we need to be known. This change, it's true, is only for short term gain (i hope i'm wrong). We're supposed to be a science coin, why aren't we contacting science magazines, organizations, etc. to get them involved in the coin? They're the ones that will benefit from this coin.
I really hope the switch will help emc2 but after the switch we will probably see a pump then a dump, sadly. This coin was supposed to be one of a kind, now it will become one of many without nothing to differenciate it.
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: July 15, 2014, 01:31:48 PM
I urge you all to watch what is happening with vericoin before moving to PoS.

over the weekend mintpal was hacked 30% of vericoins  (8M) were stolen.
the devs fearing 51% rolled back their blockchain in order to stop the theft.

this has created a huge controversy which can be seen in full detail on the vericoin thread (and the various a news articles)

they did this because if a thief gains 51% of a PoS coin they can have majority control of the coin forever because they can stake and very easily keep creating new coins.

this is not the same thing as a 51% PoW attack which only gives the attacker limited control while they hold 51% of the mining power.

PoS encourages hoarding and centralization of power more so than PoW...
the effects are amplified the smaller the coin.

I expect in the future we will see more PoS coins suffer from this vulnerability

I understand but emc2 need to do something to survive and the majority of people speaking wish for PoS. Will it change the way Emc2 is seen in the CC sphere, i don't know. Algo switch or switching to PoS doesn't do a thing if nobody knows it exist. People need to use it and right now everything is just a big speculative bubble.

What help emc2 prevent the kind of events that happened to VRC is that a lot of coins are already out, so harder for someone to steal the coins and get 51%. The volume is spread on 3 exchanges so i don't think it could happen to this coin but we never know.
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][EMC2] Einsteinium | Funding the future with the future of currency on: July 15, 2014, 12:18:53 PM
Great...we recently climed from ~200sat to 75sat. So now we will implement POS (saturday official) . Remember the voting took more then 1 month.

With this lighting speed It will take another 3 months before we go POS, and the value of EMC2 will be at record lows.

I am sorry to say this, but I realy have no trust in the qualities of the "leaders" from EMC2. I am in to EMC2 since 2014-04-06 and we had nice run....but now it's time to say goodbye, EMC2 can't handle the competition.

Thanks and good luck to you all

Let see the time it'll take to implement PoS first, if it takes too long, you might be right but if it's done in a week. It might be different
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [SFR] SaffronCoin Multi Algo X11|Blake - NEW Anonymous Encrypted Messaging on: July 14, 2014, 08:44:18 PM
Hitbtc looks like a good exchange and they have added us to their voting list. No registration reqd. All are free votes.

Do vote: https://hitbtc.com/vote


We are doing awesome on the Mintpal voting. If we can keep this pace it's 100% sure we will be added before the deadline (7 weeks still remaining I believe).

Haha yea but i would really like it if they add us by themselves.

Me too but they seam to busy adding the next P&D coin before Bittrex does it Sad

Every voted coin has been killed off, no exaggeration. If anything we should be taken off the voting list. But with the development projects up ahead, we are more likely to be ninja listed
It's better for a coin to be listed because of the volume and interest than vote. Voted coins are dumped coins
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: July 14, 2014, 03:09:48 PM
I'm from the XBC community and completely understand your frustrations.   We are a small community with just under 56000 coins and just trying build confidence back up in the coin and increase our numbers.  I wish you guys success!

This is the kind of thing CC need, people from different community wish good luck to each other no FUD or troll. Only people working in the same direction.
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - First Scrypt N | First Stealth Address - Privacy without mixer on: July 14, 2014, 11:03:22 AM
someone sell 13590VTC @0.0004BTC died Wink

Almost half of it were being gobbled up within minutes. I supposed people just love a great sale.  Looking at the bid/ask trend I cannot help but have a feeling that someone is/are out to press the price down.

This downtrend can't only cause by multipools. Someone or a group of people are driving the price down too.
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