Algorithmic trading thrives in volatile markets and the crypto market sure is one hell of ride. But the crypto market is also very susceptible to news and rumors as we have seen this month. I wonder how NaPoleonX will deal with that.
It can easily arrange with stop-loss. They just put an stop-loss to every order, so when some stupid comment bring the whole market down, they just close the orders and take a better position. It's not that simple. There is also such a thing as stop-loss hunting. Price dips for a few milliseconds and you just lost your position for no good reason. Stop losses are very nice in theory, but in reality in illiquid markets, they might be dangerous. You think you will be executed at your stop limit price when in reality you will only start being executed at this level at all cost. |
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Algorithmic trading thrives in volatile markets and the crypto market sure is one hell of ride. But the crypto market is also very susceptible to news and rumors as we have seen this month. I wonder how NaPoleonX will deal with that.
We have taken the view that we will take our trading decision based on systematic model as opposed to follow the news. We know that news will have an impact but unless you have a hedge on them and you know exactly the trading psychology of the entire market at the time of the news, it is difficult to trade using just your guts and newsflow. Some people will make money on this and we made some in 2007-2009 period but it is very difficult and difficult to sustain over the years. |
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this looks interesting. but will the investors receive a part of the profit? I haven't seen anything about that. TAAS for instance give a quarterly payment of 50% of the profit generated. Will you do something similar?
I just scanned the website and whitepaper, but can't seem to find the function of the NPX token itself. Will check in more detail later. Anyone from the team that can elaborate? Hello PS92, The NPX token holders will have the possibility : • to access the updated audits of the several trading bots, • to regularly vote for the eligibility of the new trading bots, • to regularly vote for the creation of new DAFs, • to monitor the token events and performance of each DAF, • to have access to relevant documentation on trading bots, • and to access its own account and reporting on gas perceived. Besides the right to the gas generated by each DAF, the NPX token holders shall be granted a preference right on the subscription of every DAF’s ICO: • exclusive access to a pre-sale (white-listing) to secure a minimal amount equivalent to 15 000 ETH in total, • bonus of 15% on the pre-sale. Hope it is clearer? much better thank you. this project is certainly interesting and worth watching. : "When DAF will earn performance from the trading bots they use, they will pay 25% of such performance as gas, that will be given to the NPX token holders for 85%" Really getting interested in this project. I like projects that share the wealth/pay dividends and not just increase in value if the coin demand increases. We believe in giving to the NPX token holders the possibility to benefit directly from NapoleonX success and to design their own dividend streams / portfolio construction over time depending on their needs and sensibilities to our strategies. |
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Love the idea of being able to be a part of a trading bot without shelling out the high upfront costs or needing to spend hours figuring out how to tweak and set it up.
The token holder payout of 85% of gas seems very fair as well - as someone else mentioned, a calculator would be a great tool to allow potential investors to play around with how the numbers may work out.
Currently going through the whitepaper in more detail to gain a stronger understanding but looking forward to following along.
Hello heyjoe, I put the answer done to levyashin:
Some projects make a little calculator tool, will you do one?
It's like:
User will write amount of npx you hold or thinking to hold or just random number just see the result
He will choose a revenue on menu,
and calculator gives the montly profit will token holder will get.
It gets very helpful when investing. You know what to expect.
Hello levyashin, We will think about that. However, we have to check if it is possible to do so from a legal point of view. But the math is quite easy to do. You can get an idea of the performances of our trading bots from the blackpaper : http://blackpaper.napoleonx.aiFrom the performance, you derived the gas which equals 25% of the performance and then NPX tokens holders gets 85% of that. You will quickly see that it is a business volume. The more is raised in DAFs, the more to the NPX token holders at the end! The performance metrics is from backtesting the strategies on historical data? The advantage of developing algorithm is that you can backtest them. So what we show in our Blackpaper is indeed a backtest. However, we should stress that one of the developed model has been used for several underlyings to demonstrate its robustness. We have also a very low trading frequency to avoid having large tracking error between our backtest and the live version. At last, Stephane Ifrah, one of the founder, has been using algos for more than 9 years for his own use. We have also put some of our trading strategy on an index publisher that we have developed using a test ethereum blockchain. We will release it very soon. |
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Looks like you guys are already far in development of your algorithm and you sure gave us a lot of material to read with three pdf`s.
Does your team consist of three people only? Looks like a lot of work for such a small team.
Thank you for your kind word. The founding team consists indeed of 3 senior people that have a longstanding experience in trading and algorithm development. Besides, we have been able to federate a team of 6 people, some junior and some with a lot of technical skills to help us design POCs on some of the functionalities of our future platform. You can find their background on our website www.napoleonx.ai . We want to make sure that we are covering all aspects in order to make this project a true success. |
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Raising money to start a trading house to trade on crypto seems like a no brainer.
And some of these similar projects which launched earlier had some really great success and returns.
Which bring me to ask, what value does NapoleonX brings to an investor?
From your first page description, it is only talks about how much you need to raise and what bot trading can do.
If you do raised the money, and NapoleonX makes money using the investors money, what is the investor's reward?
We aim to bridge the gap between the crypto community and the fiat world as we should not oppose them in the long run. We have a long standing know-how to generate returns in the traditional world and have designed a structure that will enable crypto investors to access it. Unlike some previous projects that remain entirely in the crypto universe, we believe that with volume, there will be no other way than to become regulated (funds are fundamentally securities) and to our knowledge, no other ICOs have applied for licences to distribute such products. As former fund managers, we believe we have all the credibility to go and get this licence and scale asset under management. |
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French project also with this name  sounds promising, Napoleon was almost able to conquer the whole world, but the Russian empire stopped him I hope with this project will not happen such! good luck Thank you for your support, the world united this time !!! More seriously, we view the cryptocurrency world as a way to go beyond borders and promote true worldwide currencies that should benefit us all. |
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I think that a french friend told me about this ICO a while ago, that he knew a trader working for NapoleonX, I'll need to take a look into this. It could be interesting.
Then he shall know either Stéphane or Jean-Charles. Both were very successful and considered as ‘star’ while at their banks. So welcome, it is time to make the others rich no, and not only the banks anymore ☺ |
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is USA and China allowed to participate? also looking into more competitive analysis with other crypto in existance such as AIcoin, IFT or CDT
Hello iad_xo: no neither USA or China will be allowed to participate. |
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NaPoleonX has been invited to BECON blockchain event in Barcelonna as SPEAKER in October! The presentation at the London crypto financing got a lot of attention!!  Just look next to EOS, Cindicator and KIK !! http://www.becon.global/exhibitors-crypto-london/On of the 3 founders will speak : http://www.becon.global/speakers-crypto-london/Meanwhile, If you have some group or channel in telegram with decent influence with the crypto/ trading/ ICO community please contact me DM cryptoyosh.[/color] Will you be livestreaming this event? I'm very much interested in the presentation. @KryptoKings, Thanks for answering my earlier questions. I understand that for most markets a trading bot can make more accurate decisions then humans party because of the lack of the emotional factor. I'm happy humans are still involved with crypto DAFs because current exchanges require it. In regards to the graph you showed, of course the basic principle of buy low and sell high (and leverage) will generate profit, but will shorting also be used when there is a bear market? I'm also happy you guys are making blogs like https://medium.com/proof-of-performance/proof-of-performance-blockchain-applied-to-trading-6e30404a9754 If the above mentioned conference and your presentation there is not livestreamed, will you maybe make a blog about it? Hello Korsakopf, Thanks for you support! Yes, we will use futures on most equity indices, and some of our trading bots may short their indices. The one on the S&P500 does that for instance. Livestream will be difficult, but we will try (not to forget) to record it and post it on our youtube channel as we did for a conference in London and a meetup in HK in July. At some point, if some are interested, we could try to do a remote meetup about the project! |
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is this only going to support trading in crypto market only?
Hello iad_xo, On the contrary: the crypto-market will be a minor part at the beginning, since we are chasing big volumes! |
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i'm not really sure about this project but i hope dev and team will keep hard work to realize his destiny.
good luck dev and team, waiting for bounty program of the project.
Hello Nazareth, Thanks for the support! The bounty program is on, at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169237.0 |
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Love the idea of being able to be a part of a trading bot without shelling out the high upfront costs or needing to spend hours figuring out how to tweak and set it up.
The token holder payout of 85% of gas seems very fair as well - as someone else mentioned, a calculator would be a great tool to allow potential investors to play around with how the numbers may work out.
Currently going through the whitepaper in more detail to gain a stronger understanding but looking forward to following along.
Hello heyjoe, I put the answer done to levyashin:
Some projects make a little calculator tool, will you do one?
It's like:
User will write amount of npx you hold or thinking to hold or just random number just see the result
He will choose a revenue on menu,
and calculator gives the montly profit will token holder will get.
It gets very helpful when investing. You know what to expect.
Hello levyashin, We will think about that. However, we have to check if it is possible to do so from a legal point of view. But the math is quite easy to do. You can get an idea of the performances of our trading bots from the blackpaper : http://blackpaper.napoleonx.aiFrom the performance, you derived the gas which equals 25% of the performance and then NPX tokens holders gets 85% of that. You will quickly see that it is a business volume. The more is raised in DAFs, the more to the NPX token holders at the end! |
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For anyone looking to invest or just want to grasp the background of the Project idea I recommend to read their goldpaper on quant. mgmt. Found it easy to read and insightful since I dont have finance background. Best of luck to the team.
Hello Cauchy, Thanks for the comment! Can I ask why did you take this pseudo? Are you a mathematician? For those who don’t know, Augustin Louis Cauchy (1789-1857) was a famous mathematician ( https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustin_Louis_Cauchy).  He did the same school (French term for the best french universities) as Stéphane and Arnaud: the Ecole Polytechnique ( http://www.polytechnique.edu/) founded by Napoleon. But he ranked 2nd at the entry contest (basically, 2nd best student in France) and then became Professor at the Ecole polytechnique. He did some tremendous work on real numbers and have several theorem on his name. So good choice! |
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Hello, I am just reading different announcements to learn more and this thread caught my attention. I am very sorry if still new with Crypto world. But can someone explain this to me with much technical terms? I mean what's with service this project will provide to us, etc?
We already answered in a previous answer to a post. But if it is still not clear enough, please be more specific and we will answer. Besides, you can ask us directly (if you attend the following conferences) since we will be speaker at: • The ICO Summit in Zurich on Friday 15th sept (Jean-Charles and Arnaud) https://icosummit.ch/zurich-2017/• The World Blockchain Forum in London 25-26th sept (Stéphane, JC and Arnaud) https://london.keynote.ae/• The blockchain solutions forum in Barcelona 5-6th oct (the 3): http://www.blockchainsolutionsforum.com/ |
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Some projects make a little calculator tool, will you do one?
It's like:
User will write amount of npx you hold or thinking to hold or just random number just see the result
He will choose a revenue on menu,
and calculator gives the montly profit will token holder will get.
It gets very helpful when investing. You know what to expect.
Hello levyashin, We will think about that. However, we have to check if it is possible to do so from a legal point of view. But the math is quite easy to do. You can get an idea of the performances of our trading bots from the blackpaper : http://www.napoleonx.ai/wp32Y878754/NapoleonXBlackpaper.pdf From the performance, you derived the gas which equals 25% of the performance and then NPX tokens holders gets 85% of that. You will quickly see that it is a business volume. The more is raised in DAFs, the more to the NPX token holders at the end! |
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I hope someone from the team will feedback on the questions asked in this thread, most specificaly I think the securities questions needs to be adressed.
Yeah, there are couple things which neither clear from the video nor from the white paper. Hello pynetx, Can you be more specific? We answered in previous posts, maybe you will find your answer? |
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I hope someone from the team will feedback on the questions asked in this thread, most specificaly I think the securities questions needs to be adressed.
Hello Cauchy, We quite agree on your previous post ☺ For the securities issue, we have work with our lawyers (Fieldfisher and LEAX) in order to structure the NPX token as a utility token. With the NaPoleonX ICO, we will acquire an asset management license to create and run the DAFs. Hope it clarifies your point? |
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