My #WhatWasYourFirstUNOPost according to my post history:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg6231963#msg6231963

Was asking for some company trading on Mintpal, that brings back memories. Good idea FK! I thought I was engaged in a little bit of smalltalk before that but cannot find anything. *shrug*

The UNO markets are kind of snoozy right now, the occasional bear drops by to say high and then goes of hunting again elsewhere. All top wallets seem to HODL though, top balances on Trex are not selling (not accumulating either). I guess the current #altsareback boom cycle will pass us by because the fate of the 15k Cryptsy coins is still so uncertain. I personally have stopped buying until we learn what will happen to those. Got a few BTC ready for whenever this situation clears up ...

Haha true. Yeh there's not that much to discuss I guess. Negotiations with James Cameron about making UNO the official currency of his new movie trilogy are stalling. The lack of a premine is turning him off. Also he wants to make us the currency of the corporations, but we're all in team blue, so NAH!

Big Vern is a liar and a thief, there are many reasons to doubt the "hack" story of Cryptsy (much more likely an inside job). And Gox was an unmitigated disaster, a platform that was run in an amateurish and fraudulent way and bleeded money for a long time, until it was too much to keep up the facade. In both cases the core was rotten before the outside. In this case it appears to be a straight theft, a clearly identifyable singular event, that caused the problem. Big difference. That's why I also mentioned a similar case where it did work out okay for all users (Poloniex).

Would I personally trust BFX with my money now? No, but others might. Ultimately it is up to the trading community to decide BFX fate now. Option 1 would be the certain death of a major platform and massive losses for many of its users. Scenario 2 has a chance of working out good or also ending up failing, but in a less catastrophic way.

Either way, the hacker must be laughing right now. He steals 120k BTC and instead of the whole community focusing their anger and chasing after him, people start hating on BFX "because socialism is bad duh".

Yeah all stolen coins are linked to user accounts, but the theft was entirely on BFX's end. So the analogy is a bit flawed. The problem is - as always - not bitcoin but cerntalized exchanges. When the Bitcoin community will finally learn and *gasp* find a solution is the real question.

Its an ugly situation with no easy solutions. Them also tapping ETH, LTC and USD balances definitely is controversial, I see that and would probably also be angry if I was affected. Yet I'm trying to look at it from a pragmatic perspective. There are 2 basic options:
1. Close BFX, let remaining customers get their assets out and say screw everyone else.
2. Keep BFX running with the goal of eventually earning enough in fees and other profits to recover the losses.

Bitfinex has suffered a loss, but is (maybe, hopefully?) not beyond repair. If they can keep/regain the trust of enough of their customers, they could eventually earn enough to pay everyone back. There are precendents for this, see Poloniex hack (much smaller scale but also a much smaller exchange back then). BFX does trade alts, sure. But the bulk of their income is made from BTC trading. If they want to have a shot at option 2 they HAVE to keep their BTC markets running, else they'd destroy their business. The only way to do that is the messy situation we're in now. Without "shared losses" they'd loose their main market and main source of income.

So yeah - there are plenty of "reasons", some even good, to explain and justify what they're doing. It still sucks, I won't contest that.

The only reason we see this socialism complaints is because of Bitfinex unique multisig wallet implementation (which is a significant part of this problem to begin with) which means the lost BTC are consistently linked to each user on the blockchain, instead of written down in the exchange SQL database and then thrown in a pool. But BFX is an exchange, not an online wallet. The reality is that its the company that got hacked, not their individual users. So they have to take responsibility for the theft entirely upon themselves, which they are doing, and treat all customers equally.

Had Bitfinex worked like most other exchanges and use a combined cold-/hotwallet system that had gotten hacked, nobody would complain about "socialising losses", because it was the company that suffered losses in the first place and not individual customers. The loss would automatically be shared between all users. This is the same situation, just the method of theft was different.

It sucks, but is still the only option they really have IMO. And yeah, that decentralized exchange idea we keep coming back to - its really about time someone REALLY did something about that...

Didn't research it thoroughly, but aparently it is (spell his name backwards). At least many seem to believe so. He's also on reddit with the same name and holds a 1000 BTC giveaway both there and here. Proof of funds and everything. Lots of reasons not to get involved obviously, that's why I ain't posting an address of mine in his thread, I don't want stolen BTC...

Go tell him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=884467

Lol @ 666 cat!    Not lol @ finex hack! 

Hope not too many of you are affected. Hoping for Craig & Nat & whoever else your balances will be fine.

RE Excahnges:
* Finex is big, they were apparently not drained completely. Stolen funds are much less than Mt.Gox too. Maybe there's hope they can find a way to cover it over time (like Polo did back in 2014 and look where they are now)
* never heard of Mpex, what is that?
* Bittrex has never been hacked. Beginning to realize what an accomplishment that is!

Damn, missed out on this Gekko dump. Had my bids set for a 2 ton dump, but apparently you had the same idea and outbid me before it happened. Well I hope y'all enjoy the cheap magic blue stuff.

From what I read on their website the Trezor password manager is no different from a regular password manaker like KeePass. But instead of encrypting the password file with a regular master password, that you have to remember and enter each time you decrypt the file, Trezor handles encrypting and decrypting the file for you on the press of a button. The passwords stored in the password manager can be used with any service including our UNO Javascript wallet.

AFAIK you cannot use Trezor directly to encrypt/decrypt JS wallets, like clicking on the Trezor button to unlock it. But UNO Electrum is fully compatible with Trezor.

address != wallet
It is perfectly possible for someone to use one and the same wallet, yet a specific input can go unspent for years even if the wallet is actively used. With the current wallet it is possible to specify exactly which inputs you want to spend, so you can only choose newer ones if you prefer. Not saying that everyone is doing that and this is why some addresses have not moved in a long time. Some addresses might very well have been forgotten about or lost. Just saying an inactive address does not mean an inactive wallet.

Definitely. A+++

If you have the seed you can always recover your private keys and if you have those you can import them into another wallet if Electrum ever stops working.
But both the Electrum Wallet and Servers by Cryptap.us are on Github - so if everything else fails you could always set up your own server to reconnect to the network.

Or you could boot your computer from a Linux live CD for creating the keys. Bit easier than relying on keeping a second & offline-only computer around.

I will simply not trust any new altcoin exchange at this point. Not unless they give plenty of good reasons to trust and use their platform. Had to remove way too many exchanges from our website over the past years...

I reconstructed the logo a while ago for a project I had to abandon, here's the highest res image I have from back then, hope it helps:
https://i.imgur.com/W7hRYzE.png

*checks Bittrex account*
Uh, thanks I guess. 

Couple of old school coins in mega-pumps currently. Had a little MYR that I just sold off at 10x, unfortunately the pump started before I was done accumulating so it wasn't much.

Not saying this will definitely also happen to UNO, but I wouldn't be surprised to see us go up in the near future. We're not on Polo though, which is definitely a catalyst for pumps that were missing.

Removed the dead link.

Loving the new graphics BlueMan.