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661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Desperate situation with my rig, can't see any solution!! on: February 06, 2021, 04:57:02 PM
update:

this morning I decided to use ddu and then install drivers again.

first I put only 1 rtx 3080 and then the second one. after some minutes, decided to connect 1 rtx 3060ti, but windows and miner does not recognize it... as I had not enough time for testing, I left the 2 rtx running.

hours ago again I saw with teamviewer that the pc was not running, so rig was freezed out completely and this afternoon my girlfriend had to restart it manually (I'm not at home out until sunday)

so, as the options are limited, I think I will install an specific miner os as some of you have recommended me. any advice about that? nvidia drivers are the same? I'm totally newbie with that

then I think will try 12 hour with only one card, then will add the second and test again 12 hours

important: where could I find the phoenix miner log? in the folder didn't see it....


I have other question, that never asked before, I hope some of you can give me some info about this. The story starts so many years ago, when btc price was about 30 dollars, I started mining with 2 dual cards, the top amd cards in that moment, and if my memory is enough good today, I remember that I mined 2-3 btc so easily.

I had in my desktop the .dat file and as all people told me that was pathetic and with no future, so as I was young, finally I sold the cards and stopped mining...

however, I think I had the file renamed and with the extension .dat removed (I thought someone could enter my computer and steal my wallet) in some place in hdd. Which is the easier solution to find a file like this in a hard drive: I have tried several ways but all times without success.

The miner is likely not going to be able to log the reason for the crash.  You will have more luck looking thru the system log (use event viewer in Windows and look for hardware related events).
As for your second problem, you can download InfoRapid Search & Replace.  With this you can look for a particular file in your whole computer.  Widh you good luck!

No need to load anything to sea4ch the drive.  Even with the horrible OS that is windows :

https://www.computerhope.com/issues/chfind.htm
662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Rig with 4 GPU's, 2 fast, 2 slow on: February 06, 2021, 02:32:50 PM
Some responses missed that op moved cards and the problem stays at the slot...doesnt matter which cards are there.  See his response where he states the problem stays with the slot.  


OP - which os the exact model mobo you have ... there are severa asus Z490’s.

https://www.asus.com/us/site/motherboards/Intel-Z490/
663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Rig with 4 GPU's, 2 fast, 2 slow on: February 06, 2021, 12:59:44 AM
ok make sure you have the slots to gen2 and if it offers 8x/4x/4x in bios

Are you using any m.2 drives/devices as they use pcie lanes also and can be an issue.
664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Rig with 4 GPU's, 2 fast, 2 slow on: February 05, 2021, 11:38:27 PM
try swapping a slow in place of a faster one. 

Does the problem follow the card or stay with the slot?
665  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Asic LINZHI 2600 Mh/s on: February 05, 2021, 07:54:22 PM
Until the price of eth crashes why would they sell them.

666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Trying to run windows OS through USB for mining on: February 05, 2021, 06:50:03 PM
Are there anyone on here that have changed too my usb drives while running windows on them? May be I'm the only one? Or I just happen to buy so many cheap fake usb drive? If I have to drop an advice on this it's better to go for ssd storage

If you have amazon sandisk has a factory store (a lot of manufactures do) buy there and no issue.

667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX Vega 56 & 64 on: February 05, 2021, 06:47:25 PM
+1
Never trust the bullshit watt that can be displayed
RX 580 reported @70W ?
Vega @100W ?

Nope !!! From experience and Wattmeter to the wall
RX 580 ~100-110W
Vega ~140-145W
What? My RX580 8gb is pulling 89 - 90 watts and that's a fact, I mean it's measured and correct, all I did was lower core voltage like some advice and it works, maybe you should try that too to see for yourself

Did you turn off rig :

1)remove the card  from the rig use your cpu's integrated gpu and get a k-watt meter reading at the plug?
2) add the card to rig set it up mining use your cpu's integrated gpu and get a k-watt meter reading at the plug?


did one reading say 200 watts or what ever
second reading say 290 watts or what ever

above is proper way to know what your card does mining

and of course check hash rate at the pool not the gui as the pool is the one that pays the money.

This....

If you didnt do this..you are reading from the miner screen and its well documented that amd doesnt report anything but power to the gpus asic.  Nvidia is better but nothing is as good as the run it measure with actual dvm (or analog if you old school) and then put it back in and measure again.  Simple subtraction nets the actual power draw.  Lack of this is what leads to burnt wires and overloaded psus. 
668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux) on: February 05, 2021, 02:15:16 PM
I found two my old GPU's (AMD Radeon 4850 0.5GB and 6870 1GB), what kind of hashrate I would expect from these cards? And if I connect 2 GPU's to mobo, do I need the SLI bridge adapter for mining?

It simply won't work at all. You need at least 4 Gb VRAM to mine ETC and 6 Gb VRAM for ETH...

Not quite correct

for ETC you need 2.6GB VRAM currently

for ETH you need 4.1GB VRAM currently

Yes indeed.

But there not point to buy a 3Gb VRAM to mine ETC unless you already have the VGA and with a 4Gb VGA you can't mine ETH and there no 5 Gb VRAM VGA...

Theres the nVidia 1060 5GB https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1060-5-gb.c3060#:~:text=The%20GeForce%20GTX%201060%205,GeForce%20GTX%201060%205%20GB.

You ever seen one i. the wild?  I knew of them but have never come across onr you could buy or even in the wild. 
669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: RX Vega 56 & 64 on: February 05, 2021, 02:09:22 PM
I love my vegas....and the only thing better is the radeon vii....HBM is why these older cards kick so much arse.  You can keep your gddr memory..

vegas 50+mhs
vii 100+mhs

Took a while for folks to unlock the power but its there.  I paid $200 each for my used a couple years ago.
Vii were $699 msrp....even todays superstar cards cant touch that hash/$ in card cost. 
670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Trying to run windows OS through USB for mining on: February 05, 2021, 01:58:56 PM
If you want to run os from USB then why don't u try hive os? If it's only for mining I think hive os is better for the driver configuration. If you insist on using windows then 120 gb ssd is quite cheap right now.
May be the OP can't configure the miner themselves? No matter what some people will never be friendly with Linux based OS, they are better off with windows OS for Mining, I could remember the first time I tried Linux out, it's was hell 🤣🤣🤣

You have obviosously never used a modern linux based mining OS.  There is very little linux involved with the user.  mmpOS / HiveOS / RavenOS / Smos...are all simple and easy linux OSes.  In fact they are much easier than working in windows ..no drivers...no swap files...no virtual memory issues or mysterious system updates that break everything.

When we recommend switching to linux mining os..we are not talking about you just downloading and using the genersl linux os.  That does require a bit more knowledge and work.  We are talking about an OS that fits on a thumb drive and has a gui inteface for everything you need to do.  Most linux mining oses run from a web panel.  You are saying you can handle a web interface with sliders and check boxes for settings.  No linux knowledge required.  Best of all people can try them for free and without even removing or replacing thier windows OS.  

Its your fear of the cli that holds you back...and funny part is you dont have to ever work from a flashing cursor if it bothers you so much.  The tools are superb.  In fact memory tweaks are easy these days.  Even flashing bios is easy on these oses.  


I would not recommend windows off usb thumbdrive.  Linux mining os sure. 

Have had to replace more risers than thumbdrives in last 5 + yrs of mining. 

671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Asic LINZHI 2600 Mh/s on: February 05, 2021, 01:22:53 AM
Its been confirmed it will mine ETC or eth variants with smaller dags.


Havent seen any pictures of the insides....but would love too Smiley
672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: mining calculator for coin on: February 05, 2021, 01:19:40 AM
well took me a bit but i found duo and what appears to be a working calc at 4miners.pro

Shows 2.46 per 100mhs on this coin per day.
Cant really get a market price that i trust.

See if that matches what you are finding on calc or not. Could be the small size and limited visiability of the coin making calcs unreliable.

673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: mining calculator for coin on: February 04, 2021, 11:35:11 PM
What units are you putting in the calc...sounds like you are  putting in mhs but the calc is on ghs.. or similar...because you are earning exactly 1000 less then expected.

So share you mining speed and also check the units are the same.  IF its GHS and you are in mhs then 1 mhs = 0.001 ghs.

674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: MSI 580 8gb Micron memory hashrate issue on: February 04, 2021, 07:19:39 PM
If you can take your time with overclocking and downclocking you will eventually get the best settings for RX580, here is what I'm using presently that's giving me 30mh per second with 90 watts, my RX 580 Is also micron memory

Core clock 1070
Memory clock 2136
Fan speed 70
Core voltage -162

The trick is reducing the core voltage to limit energy consumption, use msi afterburner and unlock the core voltage in settings
Is this the maximum electricity draw for RX580? I've read online about some getting 80watts at 30mhs, maybe it's because your graphic card is Micron based memory? With 90 watts power draw if prefer to adjust the clock more, 32mhs looks good

When people say 80w on AMD cards...they are only reading the screen.  AMD only shows power for the asic chip (main gpu chip).  Nvidia shows closer to total power.  Its just the way it is and is well known amongst those who actually take the time to measure a rig with actual power meters.  This is ehy peeps end up melting wire and overloading psus....older amd cards can be really bad about pulling more than shown and even more than the actual pcie slot limit of 75w.  But there is more here than just the actual power usage of the card...because the actual PSU and its effiency curve and input voltages and even frequency will affect the over all draw.  So for most of the time we ignore the AMD actual draw and just us whats on the screen.  But sometimes it gets confusing becaus some dont know or even understand what and why.....anyways that rambled on.....i run v/a meters on everyrig when i wired in the farm.  Im now considering replacing the dumb panel meters with all new reporting panel meters so i can automate the power tracking.    Fun stuff....if ya like the physical hardware end of mining. 
675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Linux 18.04 for Lolminer and 5700XT? on: February 04, 2021, 07:07:31 PM
I am fairly new to this and have been using lolminer on my gaming PC with a Sapphire Pulse 5700XT and Windows 10.  I am picking up my EVGA 3070 tomorrow, so I want to move my 5700XT to a spare PC I am building (i5 4670K/ASUS Z97 Pro Gamer/16GB Ram/250GB SSD).  I don't want to install Windows again (out of licenses), so I want to try Linux with Lolminer.  Which version of Linux do I need, 18.04 LTS or the newest one?  
Go for mining OS instead, Linux can be very difficult to understand, download HiveOS or SMoS (simple mining) OS and load on a usb drive and boot it up, they are built with Linux OS and they works perfectly and more stable than windows 10, easy to config for newbies too

Every time I bring up using a USB with HiveOS I get a bunch of responses warning me to use an SSD instead as running a miner on a USB is a very bad idea.  I've had zero stability issues running lolminer on Windows 10 with a single card.  Is it worth the hassle of HiveOS to run one card (separate PC, 5700XT)?  I guess I can put it onto a USB and boot from it and see how it is compared to Windows.

Ive got some usb thumbdrives that have been on ethos rigs since late 2016...still working today... I cant speak for hiveos as it may do more writing to the drive...but for me...its about all im using for ethos and mmpos no issues.....and SSD’s die too...i get 64gb sandisk 3.0 drives for around $9 each direct from sandisk.  Everyone is welcome to spend as much as they want on cases rigs drives...whatever...me i like to minimize the cost i can.  Even if i had to replace ever year or two..would be cheaper.  I never use hdd cause that is a power hog.
676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Motherboard won't boot with two GPUs installed on: February 04, 2021, 06:57:22 PM
https://aliexpress.ru/i/32806274942.html
Buy such a raiser and a 600 watt power supply.
I did not find in the specifications which power supply you are using now, but a power supply less than 400 watts will not be enough for your farm.
As a rule, BIOS setup is not needed.
I'm using 750 watt power supply and I believe this should be enough for up to 4 different gtx 1660 super or even 5 because each gtx1660 super are using only 82 watts per card and they are same brand with Micron memory

First pic down the page shows it.

https://www.dell.com/community/Desktops-General-Read-Only/35W-Limit-on-PCIe-x16-slot-Optiplex-790-SFF/td-p/4709629


It is screen printed right on the PCB.  Usually white print.
Dell optiplex 390 is different from 790 Small form factors, I guess graphic cards with no 6pin plugs works well in SFF Desktop PC, but it's better to use powered risers like many suggested too, pcie x16 watt is limited but OP said only two GPUs have problem running on the motherboard, I'm guessing the other ports aren't pcie x16
Dell optiplex is optiplex don't you think? the guy has a point there, those old desktops can't handle two GPUs in a single motherboard on their own, OP have to order for powered risers and the system wi be able to boot, maybe in future we will see new PC that can draw more watts from the pcie slots who knows?

Was going to say a gpu without 6 or 8pin power plug...is not much gpu....
677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I have $6000 to start mining, what should I buy? on: February 04, 2021, 06:53:57 PM
Hi there! My name is Agustín and I'm from Argentina. I've been interested in crypto for a couple of years now, but now with a couple of friends we decided to invest in mining.

We live in Argentina where electricity fees are very low. Our first choice is to put together a GPU rig to mine ETH and then reinvest our earnigs (I expect to be in 12 months max) in a good ASIC for mining BTC.

But of course, I'm writing this to ask help to the experts. What would you recommend me? Thank you so much in advance!
Now it's GPU vs ASIC, you can earn ROI faster with Asic miner if you go with the fastest ones but once the become obsolete it's the end, you will have hard time trying to sell compare to graphic cards, GPUs can still be used for graphics work and also gaming so you can sell them easily in future

You able to buy asics right now?  Be uase unless you pay outrageous or buy old outdated...all modern asics are sold out for a few months minimum.  Only a little easier to find gpus. 

$6k should of bought eth or btc last year with it.  Now is the absolute worst time to be buying any mining hardware.
678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Desperate situation with my rig, can't see any solution!! on: February 04, 2021, 06:49:13 PM
Try a linux mining os on a thumbdrive...dont even have to remove hdd/windows....just boot off the thumbdrive.  If the problem persists its something in the hardware.  If it disappears...its the os. 

679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Motherboard wattage consumptions on: February 04, 2021, 06:46:42 PM
Sorry guys, my question might sound dump, I don't have a wattmeter here but I want to know the watt that motherboards can consume when using then for gpu mining, that is Not using their CPU to mine, only gpu, can you give an estimate? thanks

Roughly 60-75 watts.  Thats power draw on boot up of MOBO, CPU, GPU and PSU. 

If you are using riser the mobo doesnt see any of the gpu power load.
680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Old gen core series works for mining? on: February 04, 2021, 06:44:53 PM
Heck ive got a couple rigs running G1840 celerons from 2014.
Mining with linux.6 gpus each (570-8gb) - 190mhs per rig.
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