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1021  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: new 5850 for $146 on: February 21, 2012, 09:27:20 PM
That's pretty common. Places will submit the information to fedex/ups which gives them a tracking number. But fedex/ups hasn't picked up the package (or it hasn't been dropped off). What likely happened is bensoutlet just cancelled it and it probably said "returned to shipper" on the tracking.

screw bensoutlet.

i ordered a bunch of gpus from them.  They sent me a tracking number and charged my credit card. couple days later they do an intercept with UPS and claim that the cards were OOS.
I've been emailing them back and forth for a couple of weeks and they tell me that the cards were OOS.

So:

1 - They shipped me empty boxes.

or

2 - They are lieing about being OOS.

Either way, it's a shady way to do business.

that sucks. i'v done a few deals with them and have never had a problem. one weird thing is they ship them individually.
+1, they provide tracking numbers for all the individual items instantly, which makes me think that they print out a label right away. If their stock levels weren't accurate, and the label got printed right away, it would show on UPSs site, but wouldn't actually have been picked up and sent.

You say they performed an intercept. Are you sure of this? Did it actually show that they had shipped, and then been intercepted?
1022  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: [ANN] TyGrr Remote - Full service remote mining solution!! on: February 12, 2012, 11:42:34 AM
I was able to run some number for a potential client and would like to share them with all of you. They are in an area where they have to pay $.20 USD KWh and are interested in a farm at 50GHash/S. Because of limited space and high electric costs they are interested in FPGA's. So what I would like to do is show the number behind running a farm of BFL singles and a farm of 7990's. I understand that the BFL singles have not been proven to run at these number or even exist at all but it is the best FPGA option assuming they will exist in the next 6 months.



Are you taking into account blocks going down to 25 BTC near the end of this year?
1023  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA Miners? on: February 10, 2012, 04:19:08 PM
When the total network hashing power get higher you get less BTC for your shares.
So if the BTC stays at the same price but the network speed gets 10 times as fast, and normally you need 10% of your BTC to pay the bills for the electricity, you now need all of your BTC to pay for electricity.
FPGA's are about 10 times as cheap in electricity consuming so they will rise from 1% of your BTC to 10% of your BTC.

Well the network isn't going to get 10 times as fast. However, blocks will give 25 btc in Dec 2012. At that point, at the same USD price, yes FPGAs will make a little more money then gpus. If the USD price goes up, GPUs are still better. At $6 it's about even (once blocks give 25 btc).

But that's 9 months out, and best case is FPGAs pull even or slighty ahead. The resale risk, BTCs USD value risk, if I had 10k to spend I'd still go with GPUs.
1024  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: FPGA Miners? on: February 10, 2012, 06:58:32 AM
What I don't understand is why anyone would buy them besides shits and giggles. Maybe if you're really limited on space/heat/noise and REALLY want to be a miner.

At $600 for 360mhash you can build a $600 rig that makes you twice as much money. Pays itself off twice as fast. That's including electricity costs. There's very little resale value which means a lot more risk. Maybe I'm missing something.

The biggest bonus I see is FPGA making you money when BTC is under $1.50 USD. If BTC is that low, I'm not feeling good about my FPGA investment regardless.


Logic functions (like hashing SHA256 function) are processed by gates connected in proper way. FPGA is a electronic component called chip with milions of gates and interconnects inside (just like CPU or GPU) but that interconnects between gates are not defined by manufacturer (in CPU,GPU are). You decide how to connect those gates between each other and in a result what function that FPGA will perform. You are doing this by downloading a bitsream to them (you may consider this as loading program). Some boards have some sort of non volatile memory so this process can be automated and loading bitstream wiil occur without user interference. When FPGA will be "programmed" you need to download a data to process. This is mostly done by a PC computer with proper aplication running on it, and dowlading is thru USB. In that aplication you can set a pool, user name,password and other stuff if needed.
Here in forum you can find offers of boards designed specially for mining with program in it, so just plug to computer USB, to power supply, run program on PC, set and mine. Profit.
Advantages of FPGA's are:
-10 (more or less) times less power consumed than GPU with the same hashrate
-less heat
-less noise
Disadvantages:
-price
-almost zero resale value.
Thats a short version of FPGA story Smiley

1025  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: ASRock 970 Extreme4 and BAMT - no network connectivity on: February 08, 2012, 01:06:40 AM
Upgrade or downgrade the BIOS. Load the defaults and/or optimized defaults. Pretty sure I have this board and it works fine.
Yep I have another one and it works great, but I had only been using BAMT on a crappy Biostar mobo, and assumed it might be a driver missing or something.

Any time I use PCIe slot #1 with any other slots, Windows BSODs when I start cgminer. All other slots work fine when that one is not in use. I don't know whether the same would happen with BAMT because I couldn't get it to connect to the net. Tried several combinations of cards.

Will try BIOS update.

That's weird. If the bios doesn't fix it, I'd RMA it. Sounds like you have a bad board. Two video cards shouldn't bsod a fresh install of windows.
1026  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: ASRock 970 Extreme4 and BAMT - no network connectivity on: February 07, 2012, 10:35:38 AM
Upgrade or downgrade the BIOS. Load the defaults and/or optimized defaults. Pretty sure I have this board and it works fine.
1027  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT - Easy persistent USB key based linux for dedicated miners/mining farms on: January 27, 2012, 07:44:10 PM
I've never used cgminer, it took awhile to get up to speed. Here's what I've done on the one GPU running cgminer.

I added this in the bamt config right below settings:

  cgminer: 1
  cgminer_port: 4028
  cgminer_opts: --config /etc/bamt/cgminer.conf

Fairly sure you don't need the port, but I added it anyway. Then just add cgminer: 1 to any gpu you want to use cgminer (I put put it right under the disabled: setting for the gpu).

I'm doing the 5830s first. Here's what I have so far. This is the cgminer.conf file

{
   "device" : "3",
   "auto-gpu" : true,
   "temp-target" : "72",
   "gpu-engine" : "800-950",  
   "gpu-threads" : "4",  
   "url" : "http://pool.bitclockers.com:8332",
   "user" : "user",
   "pass" : "pass",
   "intensity" : "8",
   "api-listen" : true,
   "vectors" : "2",
   "worksize" : "256",
   "no-dynamic" : true
}

I believe it's JSON which explains the formatting.

Since I'm just doing it on one gpu, I put device 3 (the 4th videocard). Without that settings were getting applied to all cards and/or messing up shit.

Auto-gpu will lower the gpu engine clock if it starts going over the target temp.

gpu-threads I read 4 was best for the 5830, also intensity 8 was best for the 5xxx series. 9 for 6xxx series.

worksize 256 and vectors 2 was also the best suggestion I found for the 5830s.

No dynamic means don't save any of the gpu for the desktop. Use it for dedicated/headless miners.

Api-listen is needed for bamt.

Please note it takes 30-60 seconds for the cgminer to start showing up in gpumon. It looks like it's not working because the phoenix info starts showing up right away. When you add options it seems to take longer. Give it at least 60 seconds to start showing the mhash.

It does seem to get better performance. I'm not sure if that's based on how it reports mhash or there's real world performance improvements. I'm going to test it and see how the share/invalids look after 24 hours.

Clocking down the gpu when its overheating is pretty cool. My farm is single core semprons so the cpu mining part of it probably doesn't help much.

If anyone has some cool cgminer tips/tweaks to share that would be great since most of us using bamt are probably pretty new. That config should at least give you a decent start. I didn't add the autofan because I don't like the fan speeds going up and down. Longevity wise I think its better to run at a constant speed then to constantly be lowering/raising the speed in order to save some rpms. I might be wrong on that but that's my story I'm sticking with it. =)


1028  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT - Easy persistent USB key based linux for dedicated miners/mining farms on: January 27, 2012, 01:07:42 AM
Fix #20, containing a super charged version of Phoenix 1.7.4 is available now via the BAMT fixer.

Donation sent.

Donation sent too. =)

Has anyone ever tried to setup a lan boot server to host the images for each rig? The cheap ass flash drives I bought are dying left right and center. I'd also like to remotely reset the image for a rig if it was running into issues. I have a remote reboot setup already when it locks up, but if it's loading the same image that doesn't always fix the problem. I'd like to have one machine with a HD (maybe raid 1) to host the 10 rig images and have everything boot from LAN. I've found the fastest fix is just swap in a new flash drive and that fixes 99% of the problems I've run into. I'm not sure if it's the flash drive dying or something being corrupted, it's not worth figuring out since it takes 15 seconds to swap the flash drive. But if it's a remote farm that is a little more trouble. =)

Some rigs I switched to laptop HDs I had lying around and that works fine. I'm just wondering if anyone has gone a step further to help manage remote farms.  If no one else has done it does anyone know how hard this would be to setup? If it's not horribly difficult I'll start a bounty. =)

I have been looking at network boot.  it would not be too difficult.  the debian live tools can generate a netboot image from the same source that makes regular bamt. 

also, found some additional writes to disk that are eliminated in upcoming version, that will help keys live longer.

Awesome!

I've used BAMT on 8-15 rigs for what 8 months now? I bought the cheapest flash drives I found find and used any old ones I had lying around. Being used 24/7 for 6 months is probably way beyond what they were designed for. Regardless it's pretty minor. Thanks for the updates, donation coming!
1029  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT - Easy persistent USB key based linux for dedicated miners/mining farms on: January 24, 2012, 09:45:29 PM
What SDK does this use ? 2.1 or 2.4 ?

Thank you !

I sorta remember this being the case but it's been awhile. Can you tell me the hash rates between the two? Does it effect the 5830s also? Also if you successfully swap back to 2.1 let us know how it works out. =)

1030  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BAMT - Easy persistent USB key based linux for dedicated miners/mining farms on: January 24, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
Fix #20, containing a super charged version of Phoenix 1.7.4 is available now via the BAMT fixer.

Donation sent.

Donation sent too. =)

Has anyone ever tried to setup a lan boot server to host the images for each rig? The cheap ass flash drives I bought are dying left right and center. I'd also like to remotely reset the image for a rig if it was running into issues. I have a remote reboot setup already when it locks up, but if it's loading the same image that doesn't always fix the problem. I'd like to have one machine with a HD (maybe raid 1) to host the 10 rig images and have everything boot from LAN. I've found the fastest fix is just swap in a new flash drive and that fixes 99% of the problems I've run into. I'm not sure if it's the flash drive dying or something being corrupted, it's not worth figuring out since it takes 15 seconds to swap the flash drive. But if it's a remote farm that is a little more trouble. =)

Some rigs I switched to laptop HDs I had lying around and that works fine. I'm just wondering if anyone has gone a step further to help manage remote farms.  If no one else has done it does anyone know how hard this would be to setup? If it's not horribly difficult I'll start a bounty. =)
1031  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much money will mtgox need for the trial? on: September 14, 2011, 12:47:19 PM
They have a french company handling funds in Euros.

And it would take how long to setup shop somewhere else? And it's one currency out of 15. One country out of 150. People are making a bigger deal out of this then it is.
1032  Economy / Speculation / Re: the real, actual, true, accurate reason the price dropped on: September 09, 2011, 12:44:41 AM
I've seen a lot of minor reasons why it dropped but the real reason is obvious. 

I'm pretty sure I have the answer. Right now, this very moment, they're more sellers then buyers.

I know it sounds crazy, but I'm pretty sure I'm on to something here.
1033  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Announcement] AutoMtGox automates conversion to USD from single bitcoin address on: September 06, 2011, 07:38:45 AM
If we receive more merchant interest, we'll provide additional features like email notification upon discovery of received bitcoins in account, and when conversion of cash occurred.

Clearly this isn't a full merchant cart solution, but it makes for an excellent staging area to test the concept of accepting bitcoins. A retail store owner can accept bitcoins and immediately reduce exposure to the volatility of the bitcoin market with full conversion to cash only taking a few minutes.

Right now, I use it for my mining for the same reason, to reduce exposure to this volatile market. I still keep bitcoins for other purposes and speculation, but I needed a continuous way to reduce risk.



Cool idea. Has anyone been using these guys?
1034  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's causing BTC price to dip below $7? (Answer inside) on: September 06, 2011, 07:35:50 AM
I think all the in-fighting, hacks and general behaviour of 5 year olds has driven away any confidence anyone had in btc


3 days in a row people can't add money to the exchanges to buy BTC. It's not surprising the price drops. I expect a nice rally this week.
1035  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: ok so i got 18 GPU on my rig on: August 24, 2011, 02:35:00 AM
somehow ati crap vision have a good vision and show me 18 gpu on my rig but i got only 6


is there any way to fix this crap ?

It's not 18 GPUs. You're seeing multiple entries for the same card. I noticed the same thing. On my rig with 4 cards there were 12 "ATI 6900 Series blah blah blah)" when you right clicked the ati system tray icon. I'm not sure why CCC does this and what the multiple entries actually do, but it's not actual GPUs.
1036  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Open letter to Bruce Wagner on: August 24, 2011, 01:50:59 AM
Bruce,

I and several thousand other people, forum members or not, were very exited and looking forward to this bitcoin conference. Mind you, bitcoin is the internet currency, so the "whole" internet was watching, or actually, not watching, because there was no live feed, no blog posts, no press release, no pictures, nothing.

Best regards,
aq


Myself and several thousand other people on the forum couldn't give two shits about the conference. It's 2011, there's more information on this forum in 12 hours then that entire 4 day conference. Conferences are an excuse for people to travel and pretend they're special. I've been to tons of them. I've never seen one that actually accomplished anything that warranted the time and effort.

Somehow we have to be face to face to "plan crazy cool new stuff!". Seriously. The people moving Bitcoin are the people using it on a daily/weekly basis as a *currency*. And the developers who are making that possible.

So there was a "conference" with a few people from an internet forum. And people weren't happy with the coverage? If there's been 10 threads about this "conference" that's about 9 too many.
1037  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what would happen if lady Gaga would start using bitcoin...? on: August 20, 2011, 08:42:12 PM
dont throw tomatos at me!!! (just a thought... basically what if a celebrity would endors/spread the word about bitcoin...?)


Hahahah! She has a PENIS!
1038  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New Ixcoin fork -> I0coin on: August 17, 2011, 04:50:02 AM
Although I understand the reasoning, the 500+ confirmation for deposits on the exchange is kind of a bother Sad

It's down under 300 now. And that's like 7-8 minutes.
1039  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New Ixcoin fork -> I0coin on: August 16, 2011, 08:09:16 PM
I still can't connect.
Tried both io.btcguild.com and i0.btcguild.com

btcguild needs to compile the updated software and load it before they can start. So it's probably not going to work for at least a good half an hour depending on how fast the compiling server is and how long it takes to compile the bitcoin code.



It's like 30 seconds.

If you have all the dependencies compiled and your Machine is damm fast, Ok.
If you start from scratch, it would take hours.

WTF are you smoking.
1040  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: New Ixcoin fork -> I0coin on: August 16, 2011, 08:05:56 PM
I0 wins the award for clunkiest launch ever.

I agree it's been a disaster

-Duke Nukem Forever
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