Mainly get moisture when warm air hits cold parts, in this case its cold air hitting hot parts. I duct a 5000 btu window unit right into my cards and have no problem "other than my electric bill".
What's a 5000 btu window? I guess it's an aircon. However I believe that cooling air with an evaporative air cooler is much more energy efficient. Or a combination if you care for comfort. I'm not sure about the energy efficient aspect at all - I did consider an air conditioner. My rigs will be pulling around 4.8kwh total. A conditioner would add 3.5kw per hour! EDIT: Maybe after reading there again I've misinterpreted you. I assumed an evaporative air cooler was the same as a conditioner - never heard of them b4. What about just venting the heat straight outside? Then at least you're not trying to cool the heat that's being produced. I guess air is going to be coming into the house from somewhere with that kind of venting? If you had all 4 rigs next to a window that had a few beefy exhaust fans I assume that would at least get rid of the heat. Unsure how that would effect the rest of the basement though.
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Is it possible to use risers in the pci 1x slots in a 4u case? I've never seen a 4u case in person so I have no clue how big it is. I understand you can fit big cards and most cpu coolers, but is there enough space to mount cards on a riser somehow?
If you look at this picture of my 4U case you will see that it is not really possible to do so unless you managed to rig up some kind of card holder but even then you only have about an inch or so between the current(stock) level of the cards and the case lid. If you go with single slot 5770 or 6870 cards you can do 4x density in a 4u case with a Sapphire PureBlack MB like the one here. Cool thanks for the help makes sense.
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More expensive (the extreme is free shipping) and the extreme has been in stock for 10 days. I just got the notify e-mail from newegg also. Step your game up man.
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Well im certainly not gona give them away if thats what you all want just cause you compare them to 5830. There both fairly high-end cards for gaming. 36btc is not much to ask.
The price is more reasonable. You should sell them separate. You've got a high end 69xx card, a high end 58xx card, and a low end card. It's a weird setup. People usually match them I'm not sure who is going to want all 3. People like to go all 6xxx series, all 5xxx series, all high end or all low end. Who is going to buy a mobo, psu, ram, cpu to toss these 3 cards in? They are people looking for the 6970, there are people looking for the 5870, a few people would buy the 5770, but no one is looking to buy all 3 at once IMHO. They'd sell much more quickly on their own. Good luck!
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http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-big-bang-x58-xpower-review/1The MSI Big Bang, for about $300, has six (six) PCIe slots on it. Can this baby pump the juice? I'm talking a 1500W power supply, and six video cards hooked up with PCIe extension cables and a channeled box fan. I'm just worried that the motherboard will get fried by 1500 watts. If the PSU can handle it and there are enough 6 pin connectors I should be okay, right? What about using two power supplies? I've heard that's possible too. http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3880#ovThere's another 6 slot board, with space for four cards without extender cables. I've heard the gpu limit is 4 in Windows, but I've also heard people have had more. I know in Linux there is no actual limit, I believe there is a simple kernel setting to achieve this. But most of the 5+ gpu setups I've seen where dual gpu cards. I've read a lot of reports that using 5 cards causes problems with a lot of motherboards. In theory 7 cards would work with Linux but I wouldn't have much confidence the motherboard is going to support it. I'm not sure what the main problem is with 5+ cards but I've seen enough posts about it that I'm fairly sure it's legit. There was a guy who had 4x6990 8 gpu linux rig and he said adding the 5th card (6990 and a non 6990) he couldn't get it to work. You're better off with a 3-4 pcie system. The mobo is cheaper, the psu would be cheaper and from my numbers the 5-6-7 card systems don't give you more bang for your buck due to the mobo/psu costing quite a bit more.
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Is it possible to use risers in the pci 1x slots in a 4u case? I've never seen a 4u case in person so I have no clue how big it is. I understand you can fit big cards and most cpu coolers, but is there enough space to mount cards on a riser somehow?
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Only selling it as a lot sorry. Thats why I said 45btc for 1ghash setup.
Yeah but 27 BTC (3x5830s in stock from Newegg) gets you 900 mhash. Buying used cards, that were abused, for 100 mhash, for 18 BTC? Seems like paying a premium for used no warranty mismatched cards. Shit you could buy 4x 5830 get 1.2 ghash and still save money (38 BTC).
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Anyone know about Four Lokos? I have saved some of the original Four Lokos that include Alcohol, Taurine, Guarana, and Caffeine that were banned Tuesday, November 16, 2010. You can't buy these anymore. They have changed the formula forever. Official Press Release: http://www.phusionprojects.com/pdf/Phusion%20-%20Reformulation%20Release.pdfYou can tell the difference between the old cans and the new cans by the ingredients listed on the can: http://briansbelly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/four-loko.jpgThe new cans are void of the Taurine, Guarana, and Caffeine. I can send to continental United States only. (Not for consumption. Selling for collecting reasons only. (I'm forced to write this) Also, must be 21 of course. Available Flavors: Watermelon, Fruit Punch, Orange, Lemon Lime, Blue Raspberry, Lemonade. Price: 1.5 BTC. 1.5 BTC for one?
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I would suggest you, guys, to sell your products here. If you have a lot of products, we could make good discount Feel free to ask! Cablesaurus already has his own website beside this forum to sell his products. Why he need to PAY & sell his products in wesellrigs? Ignore him. He spams every thread trying to promo his site.
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I have listened to everyone, even your rude comment about the newegg cards. I could just place them on ebay for 140 a piece, but i have opted to give someone an opportunity to get a good deal. and to sell them at once for my ease. My price is quite fair, i am not trying to extort anyone.
I'm sorry that I offended you or anyone else, I just want to get the cards off my hands within a reasonable time frame and to gain some rep to sell my other equipment.
Also, if anyone is interested I have a linuxcoin usb that can throttle if the temperature gets too high, restart a miner if it goes below a certain percent of use and pull a pool url from a http hosted txt file. Any suggestions on what to image it with? i could just use dd but not everyone can mirror that back to a usb.
If there is interest I'll get it hosted. It's far from perfect, I never got a chance to complete testing on it, but I'm sure it will help some people out.
I'd focus on eBay for now. The main problem is you can get them from Newegg (over 99 in stock right now) for $129 with free shipping (free 2 day if you do the shoprunner trial). Then you know for a fact they're new, with warranty, and able to return them. If you wanted to sell all 64 at once, maybe at $110 or $100. Like I said, I'd eBay it until Newegg runs out of stock. No one is going to buy them when it's roughly the same price from a major online retailer. The risers aren't enough to really change most people's mind.
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I think that you shouldn't put paper, carton or anything easily inflammable near your rig, don't think?
lots of guys build rigs on top of old motherboard boxes, plywood, and other materials, this is no different. I've seen really nice rigs made entirely from wood. And no, i don't think it's that dangerous. Everything is fuse and breaker protected, and we build with flammable materials in our homes and offices all the time. It would have to heat up to 200-300-400c before it caught fire. Even if the cooling failed the computer would crash/shut off long before that. The fan would melt off long before that. Black asphalt in the summer is probably hotter and I'm not aware of cardboard bursting into flames.
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May be worth a try. I think the myopenpc acrylic caseless is too flexible, and therefore I like that this is metal.
I wasn't impressed with myopenpc. If you had 1 card, like the looks of it, maybe. But it's flimsy, really unstable with 3-4 heavy cards on it and honestly if I could do it over I'd just take a peice of wood, drill 1/8" inch holes and mount the motherboard on that. Wood is a lot easier to expand/adjust and it's cheap. The aluminum 80/20 setups seem pretty nice. EDIT: Wanted to add if you wanted to get myopenpc as a cool desktop, it will fit the bill. The value is pretty good for the price. But a mining rig is just more then it was designed for so I wouldn't suggest it for that. The product itself was pretty cool it's just more about looks then running a quad video card mining rig.
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With all the shenanigans with exchanges and DDOS against pools, it's only a matter of time till the forums fall victim to something... Would SSL by default help avoid "some" problems? Probably.
A cert is very inexpensive nowdays. I'm sure ppl would chip in for this purpose if we were asked to do so.
Chip in? You realize the people who started BTC have 100,000s of BTC right? Wildcard cert is like $200.
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I have a A8-3850 Box,
Running all 4 cores. Getting 65MHash/s
What's the load on the cores? Wonder how close it is to using 100 watts. Sounds about right though. It's a nice boost over a normal cpu.
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Can you post your opinion on:
Last save GPU temperature °C. : ?
Optimal temperature °C for GPU running 24/7 : ?
Optimal fan fan speed % : ?
75c and under should not be an issue. They are made to run fine at 85c even 95c. But that's for short term usage, not 24.7. I don't know of many common applications that would load the gpu at 99% 24.7 so you have to be a little conservative IMHO. As for fan speed, 50-60% isn't likely to radically shorten the life of the fan. 80-100% I'd be pretty worried about.
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Why do you need to guess what the value is? The value is not some magical genie. It's mathematically calculated. It's been something along the lines of 12 days since the last retarget, 14/12 = ~1.17, so a 17% increase.
1379223*1.17 = ~1.6mil.
If I had been keeping track more efficiently of the times I'd have a better estimate, but that will be very close.
Now what there IS to wonder about is if we'll ever see retractions from all the doom and gloom crowd that have been predicting dire death and doom to us all, 50% difficulty increases every difficulty change every time without fail no matter what! I mean, the last few times it was 50% so obviously it will keep going forever. As well as the dire price death of bitcoin, it dropped down to $11! So obviously it will never go back up again.
It's actually going to be around 13%. As I said, I didn't really keep proper track of the exact times for retargets. 13% = 14/12.39; so you can see how there is a margin for error when one does not keep decimal places. The difference between 13% and 17% is marginal, 1.55mil vs 1.6mil, and it will likely fall somewhere in between. The point is that if you do have the available data you don't need to guess. Everyone was between 1.55 and 1.6. That's called guessing. The timing and the network hash rate constantly change. People generally know where it will hit. People are guessing within that range. You told people to stop guessing, ran the numbers and were way off, then said it's between 1.55 and 1.6. No kidding, that's the guessing part. Like I said, 13% (ended up being 13.3ish).
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Why do you need to guess what the value is? The value is not some magical genie. It's mathematically calculated. It's been something along the lines of 12 days since the last retarget, 14/12 = ~1.17, so a 17% increase.
1379223*1.17 = ~1.6mil.
If I had been keeping track more efficiently of the times I'd have a better estimate, but that will be very close.
Now what there IS to wonder about is if we'll ever see retractions from all the doom and gloom crowd that have been predicting dire death and doom to us all, 50% difficulty increases every difficulty change every time without fail no matter what! I mean, the last few times it was 50% so obviously it will keep going forever. As well as the dire price death of bitcoin, it dropped down to $11! So obviously it will never go back up again.
It's actually going to be around 13%.
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You can make one like mine out of 80/20 Aluminum for probably under $200 pretty easily, which compared to the one the OP linked, would be a deal as mine can hold two systems. I am going to modify it tonight to have the cards spaced and mounted off the motherboard. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/sethmo38/Randoms/IMG_4085.jpgYou can by 80/20 extrusion off of eBay or Amazon(seller 80/20 Inc). $200?! What part of that cost almost $200? 80/20 Aluminum isn't cheap. Looking at his case he's probably got at least 8'. It wouldn't cost $200 but I'd say it's over $100.
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There's 10,000s of people folding for free, correction they are PAYING to run their folding rig. Bitcoin is "less profitable"? People will mine for free, people will mine when they lose money. That's already been proven. The fact it now takes 60-70-80 days to get ALL of your money back for your hardware? It's a non-issue. The next difficulty increase will likely be under 10%. People were figuring on 50% increases a month ago. It's not longer a great way to make quick money, seems like we still have 50k miners out there. If difficulty was 3M and BTC was at $5, you'd still have boat loads of miners. People are no longer buying up tons of hardware to make a quick buck? That's good news. Miners just dump BTCs on the market as fast as they make them to recover costs. Not having huge influxes of short term hardware which needs to be paid off flooding the exchanges will be great. Difficulty increases will slow, supply will slow, demand will catch up. BTC doesn't need 50k miners making money hand over fist. Thankfully that's coming to an end.
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