At least betnomi is quite honest to tell that the processing of license is quite delayed. That is not magic that you can accomplish within a day or even a week. All in all need process that must verify first before it will release.
Let's give an opportunity to prove that they are running a good service gambling site because as a matter of fact, building reputation is quite hard to achieve, it should be months pass before you have it, or even years.
I guess we should give them a chance, after a couple of weeks if they don't provide a license, that's the time I guess.
Do not put your energy into it. Its a complete waste of time and he has no idea what he is talking about. That is what happens when you think you are the one person who is smarter than everyone and have to to inform or "protect" people because they can't think for themselves. You can simply go on our website and click the validator seal to verify our license.  |
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If you do not have a license, then do not indicate on the site you have one. That is one of the lies you spread. I am not here for myself, I am here to warn people that they should not deposit on Betnomi.
I think it is not really relevant who I am or what I am doing. The information I provide here is objective. The information you provide is false and misleading.
I did not say you scam, but that must be avoided. If you do not have a license and the terms are not finished, then do not go online. And do not rung a campaign on the forum.
What do you think? I am not the only one who mentioned this big mistake. Many users did.
If a site is not finished, and the license is not finished, then do not go online and do not make promotions, as simple as that. Somebody must take the responsibility to warn users that they should not play on a site that is acting like you are. I have nothing personal against your site, but on the moment I saw you act arrogant and like the new Einstein, I felt it as a duty to warn others.
On the moment you wrote you had a gambling license, you did not have one. Right?
We have a license anyone can see that maybe except you  and you are providing objective information's? You probably don't understand objective. "I am not here for myself" you should speak for yourself. And about "I felt it as a duty" who cares what you "feel" ? Again like we said, you are not the forum overlord or protector. We have been here for almost a year now, no one been scammed, no one is going to be scammed. Just getting bigger and better. Our advice, find yourself something productive to do with your time and good luck. Okay, Betnomi may have acted awkwardly and shouldn't have gone online without a valid license. But, do we have to keep hearing that every day?
Every company makes mistakes, we better see how they act now and how they do it now, right?
I also haven't read any stories here from people who have been scammed so I don't see the problem of why it should stay so negative.
Maybe they are new to this market, or did want to fast go online.
@BTCGOLD you can ignore him outright. He is framing things to make it seem like we did not have a valid license when we went online even though we explained we did have one and simply changed our holding company and he transfer of the license to a new company. We went online about 3 weeks now. You don't get a license in that time period so obviously we did. |
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How arrogant and unprofessional can you be? I think everyone should read this how you dealt with the terms and conditions. That is really astonishing. You draw up general terms and conditions that are incorrect and then you just say "Yes we are working there and it is being updated"
Who is going to register on a site where the conditions are not good and where you call the company Viabet? And then say that you have nothing to do with that, while it is in your own terms. This seems like a price list at the car garage if I want to replace a tire of my car how you deal with it. luckily you are not a car garage, then I might not even get 4 good tires.
Maybe you are arrogant! We do have a gaming license. It takes an average 4-6 weeks to obtain a license with rigorous background checks etc Before your license is issued, you would have to submit your ToS to the licensing authorities and you cannot amend it unless you write them explaining why you are amending it. If you know anything, you would be able to understand we had a copy of our original ToS before our website went live. ToS and other secondary pages where not updated to the website at the time but, that doesn't mean anything. For some reason, you feel you are responsible for telling people how to run their websites/business . If we understand correctly, the same thing "game protect" was doing. There is a funny feeling you are nothing more than an alt of "game protect" maybe someone should look into you as you are doing the same thing to other businesses. If you don't like our platform, please go somewhere else, and stop spewing your incoherent statements and wasting everyone's time |
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@betnomi
Do you actually understand why general terms and conditions are drawn up?
I have already seen several times that users ask a question about this, and that every time you say that if it says it, it is not that you actually do it. There are the conditions for that.
You cannot keep responding as you are doing now. People read your answers.
EVERYTHING in the general terms and conditions is binding. Not what you write here on the forum. Please think about that carefully.
Please, explain the discrepancy between our ToS and what we are stating here. Most likely, you are making conjectures based on other peoples opinion.
I possibly think gaining trust is also added, fortuneJack did same prize pool in the past just to gain trust and create more awareness likewise Betnomi.
I have just partake in the prize pool and I hope I win or at least gets 8/10, I know its not easy to predict exactly but I'm pretty sure some one going to win.
@ Lordhermes Good to know you are taking your chances. We wish you best of luck  |
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I read that you state you will not ask for the KYC. I checked the Terms and Conditions, but there is indicated the opposite?
This is what I found:
date of birth and provide valid identification showing that the player is over eighteen (18) years of age or the applicable legal age of majority as stipulated in the jurisdiction of your residence (identification documents which must be submitted include: a copy of a valid identity card, passport or driving license);
Betnomi does not recommend two or more Users to place bets from one IP-address (from the same computer or the same local area network) in order to avoid suspicion of collusion (cheating). In such cases, it is necessary to reconcile the possibility of the game with Betnomi by explaining the circumstances. Betnomi has the right to block the account of such a User and ask them to send the documents verifying their registered identity.
That clearly indicates that you do ask for these documents? While you indicate not. Do you ask for documents or not? Be clear about this.
We do not know why this is so hard, even impossible for you to understand. We stated multiple times, we will not ask for it except in rare circumstances. We have been operating for almost a year now and never asked a single person for KYC. You are pointing out somethings which are very strange or could possible be that, you have some trouble reading or understanding English. This is not meant to be offensive. We apologize in advance if we come across as being offensive. The key word is has the RIGHT. Means we can doesn't mean we do!
Maybe this is a bit confusing. I read at many other sites that a second account is not allowed from the same ip address. It is written here that you do not encourage it.
Not encouraging something doesn't mean it's not allowed. Is it allowed or not to create multiple accounts from the same IP address? Perhaps it is better to say that 1 account is allowed per IP address.
We clearly stated no user is allowed to create multiple accounts. This is strictly prohibited. Read the first post under this topic at least if you wont read the ToS yourself. This wouldn't be a question if you did. Regardless of that, "Betnomi does not recommend two or more Users to place bets from one IP-address" this means two people should not use the same computer or device to access the website if possible. This is a different situation from one person creating multiple account. We kindly ask everyone to be civil and not be accusatory in this discussion. If you see something that is concerning, please share with us. If you have a suggestion, feedback or a question, kindly ask us. It is important we work cooperatively. Daily, we are receiving these information's and making the required changes and improvements. |
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Betnomi, please adjust the blocking feature by a complete block page. Now it is very unclear that only the login button is hidden/disallowed.
I read also so many things that Terms are changed, but what about the KYC, is this procedure from a certain amount? And is this limit in mBTC or in USD before Betnomi asks this?
We explained, the problem with a complete block is, we have other applications and services running on our subdomains. I complete block will deny users access to those services which are not required to be restricted in any country. The login/signup button will be missing from the website if you are accessing from a restricted country. It is simple and straightforward if you can login or sign up, means your country is not restricted. If you are unable to, means you cannot play unfortunately. As for KYC, we will not be asking for these and there is not a limit where we would ask for it. We may in some rare cases (court order, licensing authorities request, massive jackpot win (currently at 1.3 million) even in that regards, it will not be a reason for your account to be locked permanently.
Betnomi is running more and more promotions here on bitcointalk to increase traffic to their website and to gain trust, and it is working. Thanks to this new free promo (with huge rewards) I will also join Betnomi and check the website out. Guessing 10/10 matches is very difficult, but not impossible  . There will be many promotions like these all over the place in the next few days. Hope you are taking your chances, doesn't hurt to try Good luck. |
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Okay, thanks for the details. Yes, that would be better. By the way, does the web-page automatically detect if the traffic is coming from MacOS or Windows and adjust the setup link according to the OS of the user or show same link to all users?
Yes, about automatically detecting web traffic, this is possible. As, the system captures user agent etc. We will look into it. Thanks. |
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So like that, hopefully in the future mobile users can register using a username not only using email, as well as tablet users. Because nowadays many people use mobile more often than PC or laptop, and that can play heavy casino games.
If it's a problem registering for me it doesn't matter to use a username or email the best thing is when playing the casino it's not slow when loading it sometimes I get annoying so I want to play casino faster or other games. When I use PC I still have to be in the room while using my mobile every day even wherever there is a chance I will play. There is no username or email issue in the mobile version of our website. Email and username are both required on registration. Only thing we are aware of if the tablet version of our website, this version is a low priority for us as not many people use tablets. However this version should be available by the end of the week. We encourage everyone to report any issues they face or suggestions on how to improve the platform and user experience. Our team is working on improving system load time especially in mobile and tablets. |
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Hey Sorsis,
Was just going through the poker page on Betnomi and noticed that there's a software as well. It's always better to play on a dedicated software than in a browser window. However, there isn't much details about which OS does the software support. Can you provide the more details about software OS support and specifications needed?
- webtricks
Our poker software currently supports windows and macOS. With the following system specification. Windows OS Windows - Recommended for VR: 7,8,10 2GM (4GB or more recommended) Dual core processor or better Mac OS X - Recommended Mac OS 10.6.8 or later 2GM (4GB or more recommended) Dual core processor or better We will try and add some kind of a pop up or a dedicated page for the system requirements/ specification and maybe a how to guide. |
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 The goal of this competition is to predict correct outcome (1x2) for all 10 matches on any given Premier League match day.
This competition is sponsored by Betnomi and will hopefully run for some time so you have your chance to win the prizes every week.Prizes:10 correct outcomes – 1 BTC cash prize on your Betnomi account to bet or withdraw as you see fit9 correct outcomes – 500 USD Free bet on your Betnomi account 8 correct outcomes – 300 USD Free bet on your Betnomi accountConsolidation prize – 50 USD Free bet for the person with the best score in the match day, awarded only if nobody wins one of the main prizesFor more information please visit this threadCounter Offer + Up to 30% Cash Back is Available on Betnomi
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What is so generous about this? Their system allows player from restricted areas to register to their site. If you are not allowed to gamble on a site, then restrict it with the software. All big bookmakers do this.
That is the whole main problem. If they should solve that, then the whole discussion is not even necessary. Most users have many experiences on the forum with sites that do not pay out, so it is quite normal they refer to the tos. If you say something else than what is indicated in the tos, then people might have doubts, that is all.
you write restricted countries are restricted but if you really want to restrict then you have to block these players to make sure they can not acces your website. right now many players think you want to take their money because on some other sites it went also like that. i dont say you do it but this is a big liability that people can register theirselves from a banned country that does not make any sense but i remember that a few sites also made this implementation anyway on your site i can not find the login button or maybe i am drunk haha
Just to remind everyone. We already have this restriction in place. Users from restricted countries will not see a sign in/ sign up button on our website. The login/ register button is our solution around this problem. For many reason, we think its a much better way of solving the problem. |
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If I register myself on a site, or order something, the terms and conditions are binding! not a comment from an owner saying they won't do it anyway. That's what the general terms are for!
First of all, restricted countries are restricted! Means you are prohibited from playing on our website. We are not asking you to play anyways. What we are saying is, in the event someone did not read the terms and conditions as many of us do (maybe you read 16 pages or more ToS on every website you use), we will NEVER confiscate their funds. This is an exception and again, not an invite. |
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What I found in the ToS, was this:  So that means that they can decide on any moment to take the winnings/funds? We do have a geo-block in place right from the very beginning and still do. There is currently a proposal for a much effective way of restricting jurisdictions that are blacklisted.
Regardless of that, should someone somehow end up in a situation like that, we are not other bookmakers or casinos. If you win, you get your winnings and your account closed afterward and if we noticed this before any gameplay, we will refund your deposit period! we are not interested in Scamming or confiscating anyone's funds. Even though we have the discretion and its stated in our terms and conditions, we are not going to take such action against anyone as we perceive that as unfair. Just to be clear, this is not an invitation or an incentive for people in restricted territories to use our platform.
We already stated we are not going to confiscate funds in the above quote. A definitive answer was provided to that question. You quoted the answer and the question. Finally, you are asking the exact same question again. Congratulations! |
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I visited the page but seems that technically there are some problems ?
You must be trying to play from a country that is in our restricted country list. Please confirm that else, simply refresh/ reload the page and should be fine. There is no technical issues. Everything is working as intended. |
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When does your amateurism finally stop?
The image you provided is completely false.
Nobody will provide a list with withdrawals. Pretty sure you photoshopped the list.
You are not going to win customers with these fake posts and fake screenshots, Betnomi.
You are trying now to push to hard, and as always when people do, the result will be the opposite.
I really can not understand why people are even still trying to visit their page.
Look at the begin of the topic, and how they made a mess of their "organization". That should ring some bells.
But, I have to say, I still did not read anything about people being scammed. The fact that there is a technical issue, is a completely logical step in a company that does not know what they are doing.
It seems you have never seen anything positive or good in your life. All you see is negatives, mistakes, errors, and imaginary problems. There is nothing we can ever do or say that you won't have a negative spin on. We could sign a gospel song and all you will hear is the sounds of doomsday. It must be really tough to live a life like that, we can only imagine. With all sincerity, our prayers are with you, and may God be with you. |
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Does anyone have any experiences that they can share at this casino? I am curious about the experiences and am considering taking a small gamble. Do want to hear an experience from someone first, and especially how the procedure with payment went, if you won, of course. If you lost you don't have to share the experience, that's not good for my motivation we are not sure how soon people will start sharing their reviews of our website. Rather than waiting for those, let us hold your hands and help you take the first step. To boost your motivation, we will give you a 10% deposit bonus without any wager requirement. As for payments/ withdrawals, here is a view of the latest withdrawals.   Get on the ship lets go  |
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both player and casino are responsible. Player must read the terms and conditions and understand what he is entering into an agreement with. He is therefore responsible for that himself.
A casino can do whatever it wants if the terms are violated. Therefore a casino must intervene preventively to ensure that players from excluded countries cannot access the site. Stake.com has also implemented this, for example. You can assume that a casino with loyalty is professional, so that they also have professional software and professional solutions.
If this does not happen, we will again have fierce discussions and disputes. Easy to prevent/solve with an IP exclusion.
We have implemented the feature that will make the sign in/ sign up button for restricted territories. Currently in the list are: Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Curacao, Netherlands, united states and territories, Cayman island, France and Singapore. Once we can confirm this feature is working effectively, we will add all restricted countries mentioned in our ToS to it. If there is any one from these countries, kindly confirm the sign up/sign buttons are unavailable to you. Thank you all. |
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I don't know if this is some kind of error or not, when I try to register in the chrome browser on my ipad the username column is not available, I can only use email. After switching to safari (it's pc view) i can register with a username and email. Or maybe mobile users can only use email?
This is correct. Mobile version and desktop version are fully optimized and will continue to improve it. As for tablet version of our website, we are yet to update it. As most users are using mobile and desktop. In the next few days, tablet version will be ready as well. Regarding browser support, our website supports all browsers. If there are any browser related issues, please update your browser to the latest version |
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I'm interested to know more about the slot tournaments. As per information I read on the tournament, the winner is based on points but there is no clear information on how to get the points. Would you mind to tell me how to get the points, is the points based on our wagering amount or something else? If it is based on wagering amount then how much 1 point worth in USD bet? There is only "the more you bet, the more your score", so I wanna know about the points in more detail information.
Glad you are interested in our tournaments. Below is the information on how these points are calculated. With respect to what these points are worth, the only use case of these points are to determine the winners of the tournament and are not redeemable for cash. Points are counted by the following formula: Single Win amount/Single Bet amount. Example: Player 1 made 4 winning bets: 3 (Winning bet rate)+ 3 (Winning bet rate)+ 5 (Winning bet rate) + 3 (Winning bet rate) = 14 (Total winning bets rate) Player 2 made 2 winning bets: 7 (Winning bet rate) + 8 (Winning bet rate) = 15 (Total winning bets rate). Player 2 wins.
I don't think you can make an accusation against Betnomi at this point. They haven't scammed anyone at all right now.
I do agree that it would be much easier to block players from countries in advance. Otherwise, bookmakers do this too, and they have casinos too.
We do have a geo-block in place right from the very beginning and still do. There is currently a proposal for a much effective way of restricting jurisdictions that are blacklisted. Regardless of that, should someone somehow end up in a situation like that, we are not other bookmakers or casinos. If you win, you get your winnings and your account closed afterward and if we noticed this before any gameplay, we will refund your deposit period! we are not interested in Scamming or confiscating anyone's funds. Even though we have the discretion and its stated in our terms and conditions, we are not going to take such action against anyone as we perceive that as unfair. Just to be clear, this is not an invitation or an incentive for people in restricted territories to use our platform. |
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