I'd also like to note that you've all still failed to give any reason that this is better than a transaction.
Because it's much easier to trick someone into sending some satoshis to a specific address than it is to get them to sign a message stating their account was hacked and they're the original owner? Thank you. This is what I was looking for. That is a perfectly logical reason for me to supply a signed message. I am glad you got it now  No hard feelings Thanks whywefight, I appreciate the help. sorry i sounded mad, i didnt notice you thougth you should send the same messag to altcoin4life. i was about to bite into my desk |
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Edit* I've misunderstood that Theymos asks for a non-empty signed message. I understand now.
Okay first of all, if you are developing a coin, please stop it as your knowledge about basics is unbelievable. Do all your future users, investors and bagholders a favour. stop it.
By signing a message you proof ownership. If you sign a random message when asked, it states you are the owner. Like i said before: YOU SHOULD NOT SEND ALTCOIN4LIFE THE SAME MESSAGE YOU SENT THEYMOS!!!!
This should be clear. If you really think one of the messages would enable you to get my account, i beg on my knees please do so. Please do it! NOW! Do you think signing a message was invented to recover bitcointalk accounts??? ffs... as a lender i would say: no signed message, no return. If you sent a message to theymos and you do not understand how it works, wait till you get a reply. We all tried but you dont want to understand.
Absolutely not. Signed messages were invented to prove ownership and access to a particular address. It has been picked up by bitcointalk in combination with an aged post of the address to prove ownership over the account. Any signed message combined with proper post proves ownership. What makes you think posting different signed massages is any less proof? Let me be clear, you asking for "I am the real owner of the account [PUTYOURNAMEHERE] today is [DATE]" Is the first logical thing I've heard. Up until this point I've been asked for a generic signed message. Theymos recovers with empty signed messages, so including info does make sense as a means of proof between users. An empty signed message is as good as posting your recovery credentials. [EDIT - this was the root of the misunderstanding. I was under the impression that theymos requests empty signed messages, and that Altcoin4Life was too. He did ask me to include "any message" in the signature and I failed to notice. I actually sent Theymos an empty signed message on accident.]If Altcoin4life makes a public post guaranteeing the return of the account with a non-empty signed message I will send it to him. I'd also like to note that you've all still failed to give any reason that this is better than a transaction. (If anything this misunderstanding is proof that I have never dealt with bitcoin / account loans) I am glad you got it now No hard feelings |
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I will not provide my account recovery details to other users on this forum. I refuse to do this.
I have proven ownership over the account with a transaction.
A signed message does nothing to improve credibility.
I simply cannot make this any clearer and I don't understand why you guys demand I give my account recovery details.
Please explain to me why you are demanding account recovery information after I have proven ownership.
Okay first of all, if you are developing a coin, please stop it as your knowledge about basics is unbelievable. Do all your future users, investors and bagholders a favour. stop it. By signing a message you proof ownership. If you sign a random message when asked, it states you are the owner. Like i said before: YOU SHOULD NOT SEND ALTCOIN4LIFE THE SAME MESSAGE YOU SENT THEYMOS!!!! This should be clear. If you really think one of the messages would enable you to get my account, i beg on my knees please do so. Please do it! NOW! Do you think signing a message was invented to recover bitcointalk accounts??? ffs... as a lender i would say: no signed message, no return. If you sent a message to theymos and you do not understand how it works, wait till you get a reply. We all tried but you dont want to understand. |
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read the above posts and you will see why... did you ask him to sign a certain message? |
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This is amazingly stupid.
Mate, we are willing to help you but let me reformat your quote: You are amazingly stupid. No one is gonna do shit with the messages i provided. I am granting you permission to try to get my account and if you manage to do it, by using one of my signed messages, i will pay you a bounty of 10BTC. On top, you can keep my account. One last try, sign a message: I am the real owner of the account [PUTYOURNAMEHERE] today is [DATE] And i am sure Altcoin4life will give you the account back. If you dont understand how signing message works, you dont deserve a Hero Member Account. Sorry to say this... The fun part is, you dont send the message theymos wants to altcoin4life, you would need to send a DIFFERENT text to altcoin4life. This will be amazing when you realize how you made your self looking. You sir, just made my day. |
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you should sell the iphone...  |
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Good luck with selling your accounts!
i see you are selling accounts. want to take em all? |
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NEVER GIVE YOUR DIGITAL TO ANOTHER USER IF YOU CARE ABOUT ITS SECURITY! DOING SO PERMANENTLY ALLOWS ACCOUNT THEFT REGARDLESS OF PASSWORD AND EMAIL CHANGES! ONLY GIVE YOUR SIGNATURES TO THEYMOS.
thats the biggest bullshit i have ever read on this forum... and you should know this if you are the owner of a hero account... just sign a message that your are the old owner. why is it that hard? thats basics when it comes to lending. check the lending sections. thats what signed message are for, to proof you are in controll of an wallet/address yes sending shows it do, but if i were him, i would demand a signed message. same will theymos do. How is that bullshit? Anyone with a signed message can request account recovery from Theymos. I will absolutely not give other users this information, and have proven ownership with THIS TRANSACTION: https://blockchain.info/address/1E6soVzn7Z5NGguwD9sZfXkVmn8a51Cg71If you don't believe this compromises your account make a public post with a signed message and a link to where you posted the addy, then just wait for your aaccount to vanish from your hands. To say otherwise and encourage users to spread their digital signatures is immensely foolish and irresponsible. What does a digital signature prove that a transaction does not? Also I couldn't care less if it's basic lending practice (irresponsible as it is). I never asked for a loan. Dude.... Proof of ownership:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am whywefight from bitcointalk.org, today is 26.01.2016
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
18fZyjcEiP856yYHb1K3r2uKVe3t4ysSdJ
IEq0WhNzjrYaEhQN/ErbLiLnVkvsePVjW4nrHh0EdKglF16ZaG74XeQ2mALWtTnCuGEi/gW/focdMlQM+z0R5uY=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
proof of me signing this address and using it for all proof of ownership -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920631.msg12036740#msg12036740Oh have a look, i have a public signed message more than 40 times here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1144224.msg12055802Now, go claim my account... |
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NEVER GIVE YOUR DIGITAL TO ANOTHER USER IF YOU CARE ABOUT ITS SECURITY! DOING SO PERMANENTLY ALLOWS ACCOUNT THEFT REGARDLESS OF PASSWORD AND EMAIL CHANGES! ONLY GIVE YOUR SIGNATURES TO THEYMOS.
thats the biggest bullshit i have ever read on this forum... and you should know this if you are the owner of a hero account... just sign a message that your are the old owner. why is it that hard? thats basics when it comes to lending. check the lending sections. thats what signed message are for, to proof you are in controll of an wallet/address yes sending shows it do, but if i were him, i would demand a signed message. same will theymos do. |
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Sup! Some of those accounts have trustratings, none of DT. Signed Message that i am the owner for all accounts available, for some i staked a new address, key is included if you want it. Escrow welcome if you do not trust me, i suggest using SebastianJu. I accept CasinoCoin too! ####################################################### Acc #1 http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=lm80n5c7Posts: 560+ Activity: 220+ (Full Member) Potential Activity: 220+ (Potential Full Member) Post Quality: Good Trust: Neutral Price: 0.073 ####################################################### Acc #2 http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=qm7s6lq6Posts: 260+ Activity: 160+ (Full Member) Potential Activity: 160+ (Potential Full Member) Post Quality: Fair Trust: Neutral Estimated Price: 0.05 ####################################################### Acc #3
http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=3v7t213g
Posts: 60+
Activity: 60+ (Member)
Potential Activity: 100+ (Potential Member)
Post Quality: Very Poor
Trust: Neutral
Estimated Price: 0.025sold####################################################### Acc #4 http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=3875i2h9Posts: 480+ Activity: 240+ (Sr. Member) Potential Activity: 240+ (Potential Sr. Member) Post Quality: Fair Trust: Neutral Estimated Price: 0.076 ####################################################### |
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as long as you dont get a signed message there is nothing to do.
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With craptsy dead, its hard to buy decent amounts of CSC as other exchanges have a lack of volume.
I want to buy your CSC. Post offers with rates you have in mind. thx
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i guess you wont find someone at marketprice. i do sometime for 50% of the current rate
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This is probably the most scam ridden section of this forum. Be safe.
I am happy to see you are posting this! |
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Just wanted to add: Its not an "assumption" if people clearly state those keys are MSDN based.
Its not, its just that staff wants to stay out this. Its the same when theymos does not restore (possibly) hacked and (possibly) sold accounts to the original owner. Someone from DT might want to issue warnings against those (like Vod did for MS keys), but it will probably not stop them. Neither buyers nor sellers. btw, as expected my reports ratings dropped a percentage point, so I got the message. it fine if there is an official statement. it seems it depends who works on the reports, some get taken down, others not |
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again i am not talking about scams, i am talking about selling cracked, hacked and carded stuff.
Yup, you're not. You're talking about banningmoderating someone based on the assumption that he/she broke the service's(unrelated to bitcointalk) TOS. It's been widely stated that the forum does not moderate possible scams. So to answer your question, yes, the forum allows topic selling MSDN keys.
ill skip my comment on this.... I find this weirdly similar to what I said yeah cool on that. if its what the staff says i am okay with it, obvious i have to. loosing a battle doesnt mean loosing the war. Just wanted to add: Its not an "assumption" if people clearly state those keys are MSDN based. |
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all your bullshit nonsense will be printed out and handed in to German police.
als deutscher frage ich mich gerade: was genau denkst du wird die deutsche polizei dann tun? for all others: i just asked what he think: what will german police do. |
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demand a signed message from the old owner. if he contacts theymos because his account was hacked, he needs to sign one anyways.
also like zazarab said, never take accounts that cant sign the oldest address you can find.
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I just got a statement from grue via pm regarding msdn keys: It's been widely stated that the forum does not moderate possible scams. So to answer your question, yes, the forum allows topic selling MSDN keys.
ill skip my comment on this.... |
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