Erstmal ein großes Dankeschön an diejenigen die Unseren Service Dank diesem Thread bereits genutzt haben,
und uns Ihr Vertrauen geschenkt haben.
Eure PM hat mich jetzt nicht so überzeugt. Auch glaub ich solchen aussagen nicht so wirklich gerne. Wenns wirkich jemand aufgrund dieses themas getestet hat, dann vermisse ich die rückmeldung darüber... |
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Auch habe ich nicht mit Klage gedroht oder sonstigem, sondern hatte ein nettes Gespräch mit einer Frau Engel von ProTact. Die würde ich gerne mal kennen lernen!  Kannst ja mal googlen was "engel daniel dietermann" als ersten Treffer ausgibt. Damit sollte klar sein in welcher Beziehung die stehen und welche Interessen dahinter stecken ;-) Ist an sich auch nichts verwerfliches, drücke euch die Daumen, dass ihr endlich euer Geld zurück erhaltet. Leider ist es seit jeher scheinbar so, dass man seinem Geld hinterherrennen muss (kann da auch ein Lied von singen). hab ich gemacht, ich war jetzt enttäuscht über die ersten ergebnisse: linkund  wen kann ich eigentlich für das ständige posten meines vornamens verklagen?? |
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no reply, who would have guessed that, eh?
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 Be like Bill. Please?  would be nice but btct would loose like 50% of all members. i would be pleased to see it. |
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post proofs, use the proper format, and move this to the scam accusation. and make a dispute, dude. by the way... Selling invites is allowed, but there are some restrictions in order to prevent people from selling accounts and invites obtained through hacking. In order to sell invites or accounts to invite-only sites, you must:
- Have some history here, with more history being required for trades of invites/accounts in bulk. Or,
- Have substantial history on reputable invite trading forums such as torrentinvites.org which prohibit selling hacked accounts. Or,
- Be vouched for by someone from one of the above two categories.
by these rules that thread should not be allowed... or am I wrong? you are correct, newbie, no vouches and no history here |
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op you begged to go first, didnt get what you want and so you decide to send more money?? omg for real???
Why are all the scammer convos full of "dude" "bro" and "mate"??
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if you see a user's trust ratings not " 0: -0 / +0" then it has trusted feedback, the zero in the middle is the number of negative trusted feedback on the account while the zero in the right is the number of positive trusted feedback and the zero on the left is the overall trust ratings. there is no way you will see light green trust member without trusted positive feedback
care to share who is the user you see with light green trust but without trusted positive feedback?
yes I know that, that is why I am asking why am I seeing it in green  untrusted feedback won't make any changes to a user's ratings. you either misunderstood what a "trusted feedback" is or is seeing things.  the +1 (or more) is how many trusted feedback a user have received. This is how I see his trust LOL.  Haha. No that is not the guy. cause you left him a feedback and you basicly should trust your own. i just see 0: -0 / +0 (in black ) because i dont trust you, just have DT in my list. |
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i showed shorena this could never happend the way the story was told to us, lets wait for him what he has to say.
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Thanks to theymos, a new post right after the OP has been created. The list should be updated quick if Lutpin feels like it
cant wait, want to see my new level |
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There's lots of posts about scams and scammers out there... This is the opposite situation and I want to give some credit.
Paul Vlad - Vlad2Vlad and I made a bet, over Skype, with no contact for $2,000. Not a tiny amount of money. I won the bet. Paul, to his immense credit paid me $1,000 already and is sending me the rest in ten days.
There's mad sketch people in the space. Paul is, really, a good, honest, and honorable guy.
Thanks man.
whoa! what was the bet about? |
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My guess is that if forum administrator will remove all feedbacks from this account
i guess: this will not happen |
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Guys.... you dont get scammed because of running teamviewer. You get scammed because of allowing some random stranger full access to your system. Thats two pairs of shoes.
I have running tv all day long and nothing happens...
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Didn't know that can happen with the normal teamviewer version and he only being allowed to watch. Though you somehow write as if he could do more from the start? And when you say he can install a screen driver then doesn't that mean already that he can run scripts on the other pc? He then could run an autoit script and clear the wallet... at least if unencrypted. Hi........I just wanted to give a brief summary of how I was recently scammed......mainly for informational purposes and so others can be on the look-out for this method. I also would like to hear if this is a fairly common way to scam people...or something rather new. I know I will get a lot of ridicule for falling for such a blatant scam............but I thought this could be a learning experience, so hopefully I won't get too many negative comments.  The scammer saw my post and asked me if I had ICQ (trading BTC for prepaid debit card codes) I set up my ICQ, and we negotiated rates, etc. He was very professional, patient, and he said said "I'll go first." (He would start the transaction) He asked me to create a Bitcoin wallet on blockchain.info so he could see that I had the coins ready for trade. So I moved my coins to the blockchain wallet. He then said that since he will be taking the risk by sending the codes first, he would like to view my screen to make sure the code is used properly. (There may have been another reason for this too.) In order to do this....he wanted me to download a program called "Team Viewer" that allowed him "see" my screen in real-time. I downloaded the program "Team Viewer" and started it up ...... he told me he could see my screen, etc......then somehow he asked to see my bitcoin wallet to verify the coins on blockchain. Once I logged into my bitcoin wallet on blockchain........BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAM....... I saw my bitcoin balance being withdrawn in a flash. END OF STORY So obviously, besides my stupidity, it was the "Team Viewer" program that allowed him to pull off this scam. I'm still not sure how that program works.....for instance, how could it allow him to also be logged into my bitcoin wallet on blockchain??? How could two computers be accessing the same wallet like that? Thanks for any input and hopefully this will help somebody in the future from being scammed in this way. I appreciate any constructive feedback........... No, i think it was a good step to post this since for sure you warned some people to be cautious with teamviewer. What i wanted to know, since you mentioned somewhere that you scammed before, how big of a scammer were you? Since especially i'm interested into knowing if scammers on bitcointalk all play alone for themselves or if they meet in some community or so. Would be interesting to take a look in such a community, maybe watching scams on bitcointalk in realtime. Only an idea. Fancy things you can do with teamviewer: - Black out the remote screen, therefore you need to install a "screen driver" via TeamViewer, depending on the connection that can take 1-2 minutes. - Lock the remote keyboard and mouse The easy and quick way: So lets imagine i am the guy trying to scam you. I tell you: download teamviewer, personally i would send you to the real site www.teamviewer.de or .com (doesnt matter) I will ask you for your teamviewer id and pass, its displayed when you open up TV. I will connect to your system. I will instantly start to install the driver and black your screen in addition once your screen is black lock your keyboard and mouse. No i have from 1 second to 15 minutes, in relation how smart you are, to roam around your pc. if you are using the core client and its open already ill send all you have to my own address. as long as the connection is working i wll start searching for "wallet.dat" and copy each of those files to my system (in case you have other coins i would note which wallets you have installed. if my connection is still working and i was prepared to scam you i might install some nasty tools or start to delete files and maybe uninstall some devices. Sooner or later you might have come to the idea to switch your pc off, disable wireless (if oyu have a button for it) or pull your ethernet cable. If you using something like electrum (what i do) you cant just send coins without a pw. Anyways: NO WAY, coins vanish RIGHT AWAY after a connection is established. i mean the second someone is in. doesnt work that way. op might have downloaded a poisoned teamviewer somewhere but i dont think so. you have to be cautinous about giving stranger access to your pc, no matter how the tool is called. some would be possible with a simple rdp invite. its not the tool to blame, its PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair). If someone has a session established that allows remote control he can operate the system like sitting in front of it. Thats the idea of teamviewer or remote tools in common. |
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Hi........I just wanted to give a brief summary of how I was recently scammed......mainly for informational purposes and so others can be on the look-out for this method. I also would like to hear if this is a fairly common way to scam people...or something rather new. I know I will get a lot of ridicule for falling for such a blatant scam............but I thought this could be a learning experience, so hopefully I won't get too many negative comments. The scammer saw my post and asked me if I had ICQ (trading BTC for prepaid debit card codes) I set up my ICQ, and we negotiated rates, etc. He was very professional, patient, and he said said "I'll go first." (He would start the transaction) He asked me to create a Bitcoin wallet on blockchain.info so he could see that I had the coins ready for trade. So I moved my coins to the blockchain wallet. He then said that since he will be taking the risk by sending the codes first, he would like to view my screen to make sure the code is used properly. (There may have been another reason for this too.) In order to do this....he wanted me to download a program called "Team Viewer" that allowed him "see" my screen in real-time. I downloaded the program "Team Viewer" and started it up ...... he told me he could see my screen, etc......then somehow he asked to see my bitcoin wallet to verify the coins on blockchain. Once I logged into my bitcoin wallet on blockchain........BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAM....... I saw my bitcoin balance being withdrawn in a flash. END OF STORY So obviously, besides my stupidity, it was the "Team Viewer" program that allowed him to pull off this scam. I'm still not sure how that program works.....for instance, how could it allow him to also be logged into my bitcoin wallet on blockchain??? How could two computers be accessing the same wallet like that? Thanks for any input and hopefully this will help somebody in the future from being scammed in this way. I appreciate any constructive feedback........... No, i think it was a good step to post this since for sure you warned some people to be cautious with teamviewer. What i wanted to know, since you mentioned somewhere that you scammed before, how big of a scammer were you? Since especially i'm interested into knowing if scammers on bitcointalk all play alone for themselves or if they meet in some community or so. Would be interesting to take a look in such a community, maybe watching scams on bitcointalk in realtime. Only an idea. Fancy things you can do with teamviewer: - Black out the remote screen, therefore you need to install a "screen driver" via TeamViewer, depending on the connection that can take 1-2 minutes. - Lock the remote keyboard and mouse The easy and quick way: So lets imagine i am the guy trying to scam you. I tell you: download teamviewer, personally i would send you to the real site www.teamviewer.de or .com (doesnt matter) I will ask you for your teamviewer id and pass, its displayed when you open up TV. I will connect to your system. I will instantly start to install the driver and black your screen in addition once your screen is black lock your keyboard and mouse. No i have from 1 second to 15 minutes, in relation how smart you are, to roam around your pc. if you are using the core client and its open already ill send all you have to my own address. as long as the connection is working i wll start searching for "wallet.dat" and copy each of those files to my system (in case you have other coins i would note which wallets you have installed. if my connection is still working and i was prepared to scam you i might install some nasty tools or start to delete files and maybe uninstall some devices. Sooner or later you might have come to the idea to switch your pc off, disable wireless (if oyu have a button for it) or pull your ethernet cable. If you using something like electrum (what i do) you cant just send coins without a pw. Anyways: NO WAY, coins vanish RIGHT AWAY after a connection is established. i mean the second someone is in. doesnt work that way. op might have downloaded a poisoned teamviewer somewhere but i dont think so. you have to be cautinous about giving stranger access to your pc, no matter how the tool is called. some would be possible with a simple rdp invite. its not the tool to blame, its PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair). Would you do a demo with me? I will prepare a victim VM for you. Sure, why not. Prepare a system and we will do a simulation. |
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I just had a PM from whywefight they want spot 8. But I asked him to confirm it on the thread.
How the lucky coin works in respect to how people will find out really will need a vote on then.
UPDATE: whywefight: please post here to confirm your spot at #8 for 3.LUCKY light blue: received coin  confirmed! |
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i think he is a dutch |
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Okay we all see where this is going to...
You can lock the topic in the lower left of this site. Thank you.
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Wie genau gewährleistet ihr anonymen ankauf? Also wenn ich euch jetzt 200btc verkaufen will, wie genau soll das laufen?
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Unfortuantely not. Bitcointalk has a lack of following and notifying own posts. This is a pitty in some hope.
We can only hope that the new forums software will bring such features.
why the fuck would you post this reply after there was already posted a workaround??? Ah i see... yobit.... |
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