I know the Encyclopedia of Bitcoins has a section about these definitions Maybe check them out and compare/contrast. EDIT: "Is it buyer funded or self funded or just plain funded?" Why does it matter who funded a coin? The only thing that matters is who made the keys.... that's it.. The whole thing with "Buyer Funded" was just a work around for coin makers... thus just adding the confusion I am going to have to disagree with you on that a least a bit. I have been buying from you / trading with you for a while. What if it turns out that Mantis coins that you were funding were coming from BTC that you had stolen? (Yes I know you are not a crook and you are not funding coins it's just an example) But it might matter down the road. It's easy to say it's like cash. But we all know it's not. I know that if I have to peel & redeem the coins that I funded I know more or less whe-re it came from (mining / exchanges). For the BTC that I buy and sell stuff with it's very fast and loose. Sell some hardware, buy some coins, sell some other collectables buy some others, whatever. For the coins I have bought loaded it's a bit more fuzzy. What happens if it turns out that CryptoImperator (just picking another coin maker out of thin air) was actually laundering money for a crime ring? You sent him your nice clean coins, he loaded the coin he sent you with some extortion BTC do you care? This is probably taking this WAY off of where krogothmanhattan wanted but it is something to think about. -Dave
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Some more thoughts: Buyer funded / seller funded. I think we all know what they mean but a clear hard line might be good. Not sure if it matters but: krogoth makes a coin. It's a 1 BTC sells it for unfunded for .1 BTC If it ships to me and I put 1 BTC that's buyer funded. If it pay 1.1 BTC and it ships to me that is seller funded. If I pay .1 BTC to krogoth and send 1 BTC to an address that was given is that buyer or seller funded? Logic would dictate that it's buyer funded I put the funds on. Now before it ships wheelz1200 sends me a PM saying I'll give you 1.2 BTC for it (thanks wheelz) and krogoth ships it. A year later that coin goes up for sale. Is it buyer funded or self funded or just plain funded? Where do we draw the line? Do we care? Down the road will it matter? Complete / incomplete. A lot of times coins come with stuff. Take a look at my failed auction here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125972It has the coin, the holos, the bag, the stand, the sticker. Is it complete? It does not have the envelope with the logo that ravenbit shipped the coins in.(I have since found it but that's another story) But at what point does it matter / make a difference. But I do know that I will bid a bit more if it has all the stuff. [BitcoinPenny Doodles are a good example] -Dave
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Always a fan of your products,
Whats the anticipated breakeven time for a device like this please?
Depends on your cost of power. And what BTC does in price and difficulty. But probably years. As of now with free power you are only going to be pulling in $75 / yr with 1TH https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/btc?-Dave
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Breached or possibly breached - Any coin listed on your thread about them. Don't know if there is a better explanation then that. We all know what it means, but there is no hard and fast rule about it.
ShitcoinForks - Same as above. There is no standard, usually means loaded after the Aug 1 2017 BCH fork but before the Oct 24 2017 BTG fork. However different people see it differently and "all shit forks" means pre Aug 1. We should probably come up with a standard at least within the forum. Even I am forced to check when someone posts. I am now actively bidding on something that was listed as "Has all the shitforks" but was loaded Dec 11th 2017 which means no BTG, BCX, BTD. I really don't care, but someone else who did not check the date is was loaded might.
And we might want to use something other then the word shit.
-Dave
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Having an odd issue every now and then. The ledger will go to the connecting to internet screen and stay there. None of the buttons work when this happens. A 1 second pull of the USB cable and plugging it back in and it's good to go.
Is anyone else seeing this?
-Dave
Same here. Pretty minor issue, but annoying when it happens. Does the device go to the "Welcome to PaperLedger" screen or the "No Internet" screen? None of the 4 buttons work? At least the left button should work as its hardwired to the reset pin on the board. The ok button (3 button from left to right) its also mapped through software and should take you to the setup menu. If the ok button does not work it seems that the device is getting stuck. Is this consistent? Say after 2 weeks the issue happens? Thanks for reporting this issue. I don't think any of the buttons work. Next time it happens I will give them all a good push to test again. Since pulling the USB and putting it back in works that has been my regular fix. I don't know if it's consistent, but it does happen regularly say once every few days. Not sure if it's every "X" days or "X" hours. I'll pay more attention. Now that you ask I am not 100% sure of which screen it is on, next time it happens I will let you know. Thanks Dave
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The problem is I have the new fimware and cannot upgrade. Therefore, i tried to ssh. That wouldn’t happen. Server denied. Then i tried to get into the configure file where they had everything commented. I attempted to edit it but still to no avail. Looks like i still have a lot to learn in linux. Btw, i will need another hashboard. I burn through these things like hot cakes.
No the change jumper and use SD card will let you downgrade: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129589.msg50652435#msg50652435-Dave
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So i already did this, only two of my three hashboards show status? Am i eff’d? I am also running 2 bitmain 1600W psu’s to run my antminer and it is on low power enhanced. It seems like it’s the only setting it works on. Somebody help!
2 x 1600 is a lot of overkill. Did you have 2 of them plugged into 1 board or did you have 1 running 2 boards and the other doing 1? The danger of running on 2 psu's is 2 fold. 1) If the one running the controller goes offline the fans stop spinning. The hash board that still has power now has no cooling. 2) If you plug 2 separate psu's into one board you are now feeding in 12V from 2 separate 12V rails With that being said. You can always try to revert to an older firmware: https://support.bitmain.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019493654-S9-series-S9-S9i-S9j-S9-Hydro-Control-Board-Program-RecoveryStandard disclaimer: If you are not sure what you are doing don't do it. If you mess it up and brick your miner don't yell at me. You are doing this at your own risk. Now that the lawyer talk is done. I have not installed the new firmware but I have had it with some of the older ones where 1 board would drop out and going from firmware to firmware would fix it eventually. -Dave
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Lot 1 @ 0.275 BTC
Thanks, Dave
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The R606 IS "that", and a whole lot more! I've been averaging ~1Th/s for well over a week now, and the power usage is essentially NOTHING!
If that's what you were saying, we couldn't agree more. It seems most people don't realize exactly what this R606 really IS!
Just my opinion anyway..
More or less yes that is what I am saying. -Dave
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Second fan? Why does everyone think these things need a second fan? Just because the friggin' S9 has two fans to clear 1.5KW from a case the size of an adult shoe doesn't mean everything needs two fans.
Seriously. The highest heatsink temperature I've yet marked was about 60C on full blast with the provided fan. Two fans is only really necessary when you need high pressure and this guy's heatsinks are nowhere near as constrictive as the ones used in the horrendous cooling designs we've been convinced to call "normal" now.
Looks like the lag right now is power bricks, so I may go ahead and ship pods so non-kit orders can be filled and then send bricks behind them as soon as they're arrived. Tired of waiting.
Your words. horrendous cooling designs we've been convinced to call "normal" nowWE ALL have gotten used to the crap that has been coming out and keep assuming it's all crap, even though we know you build the good stuff. Going back to the old times of 4 1/2 years ago I shipped you an BTC Garden AM-V1 and a bitburner. Slow and useless by today's standards. But big open designs with big QUIET fans. And heatsinks the size of a car. I actually was still running a bigger BTC garden as a space heater till I got an R4 a while back. You could have it 4 feet away and never know it was on. I know I made a similar comment in another thread, but build something like that and you will sell every one you make. -Dave
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Not a bad deal there, really. I'm good on hardware wallets, I depend on cold wallets for real storage. What card storage would be more convenient for you? Many phones use that card, so it's handy in that aspect. Larger cards require/waste more circuit board real estate, and larger form factor.
I would like full SD. Yes phones use the microSD but most (all?) laptops that have built in card readers use full size SD. Same with desktops, I don't know of one that has a micro SD slot, those that do have full size SD. I have many micro to regular SD adapters around. 2 or 3 at my office, 2 or 3 at home, probably 1 at my parents, etc. Can I actually locate them. That is an entirely different answer. Take ColdCard out of fireproof lock box, insert microSD, create transaction, stand in middle of room going where is an adapter. I thought there was one on the desk, nope. Did I put any over here, nope. Kitchen table where I was working yesterday, nope. Oh, look there is one in the corner of the over there next to the pile of old cell phones. -Dave
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I did a quick test and it works. 220V required. 10 PCIe connectors. Generic. No power cord included. Payment address: bc1qfjgkrafy9ag5c8pkt72xs762dpfcvpq2uamj9p Or Payment address: 1HZGzeFW9sNZzXUjza1xEGfwsQZmo9H3vJ If you have any questions ask. Thanks, Dave
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findblocks did you pull it off your pool I don't see it there anymore? Difficulty seems to have dropped down again. Just wondering if the difficulty spike was just being on a pool or something else. -Dave
Do you have a list of active nodes so I can add it to our pool? Here is the getpeerinfo from my QT: 10:12:03  getpeerinfo
10:12:03  [ { "addr" : "5.135.68.252:25931", "services" : "00000001", "lastsend" : 1555769494, "lastrecv" : 1555769494, "conntime" : 1554840423, "version" : 70000, "subver" : "/MetalMusicCoin3:3.1.0/", "inbound" : false, "releasetime" : 0, "startingheight" : 2316756, "banscore" : 0 }, { "addr" : "91.121.79.208:25931", "services" : "00000001", "lastsend" : 1555769494, "lastrecv" : 1555769253, "conntime" : 1555001103, "version" : 70000, "subver" : "/MetalMusicCoin3:3.1.0/", "inbound" : false, "releasetime" : 0, "startingheight" : 2319420, "banscore" : 0 }, { "addr" : "23.233.2.252:25931", "services" : "00000001", "lastsend" : 1555769494, "lastrecv" : 1555769496, "conntime" : 1555708473, "version" : 70000, "subver" : "/MetalMusicCoin3-dnp:3.1.0.13/", "inbound" : false, "releasetime" : 0, "startingheight" : 2331098, "banscore" : 0 }, { "addr" : "203.63.122.18:25931", "services" : "00000001", "lastsend" : 1555769494, "lastrecv" : 1555769495, "conntime" : 1555726953, "version" : 70000, "subver" : "/MetalMusicCoin3:3.1.0/", "inbound" : false, "releasetime" : 0, "startingheight" : 2291652, "banscore" : 0 } ]
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findblocks did you pull it off your pool I don't see it there anymore? Difficulty seems to have dropped down again. Just wondering if the difficulty spike was just being on a pool or something else. -Dave
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If the rest of the year's plans pan out, which mostly hinges on the success of the R606, I might finally get that S1/S3/S5 refit kit built. The S3 was pretty much the last full-scale miner designed to be quiet so hopefully a lot of them still exist to be upgraded.
I think a lot of gear is now coming with built-in PSUs because power supplies in the required power range aren't readily available at quantity, and if the PSU is integrated with the controller, board-level string voltages can be adjusted without an inline regulator which gives a 5-10% efficiency bump in the overall machine.
I wonder how many S1/3/5 style units are still around vs the S9 / T9 type ones. With the fans running @ low speed (not actually enough to cool the stock miners) they are fairly quiet. I have 2 "1 board" S9 units that are quiet enough for home use with the fan speed dropped to almost nothing. Not unlike what Artemis3 said. But it's only doing 4TH. If I make it a 2 board 8TH unit it gets loud again. If you can get 8TH or 10TH with 2 or 3 boards that are more efficient so you can keep the fans running slow and quiet you would probably sell every one you could build. Just my view. -Dave
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Having an odd issue every now and then. The ledger will go to the connecting to internet screen and stay there. None of the buttons work when this happens. A 1 second pull of the USB cable and plugging it back in and it's good to go.
Is anyone else seeing this?
-Dave
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Best thing about this pre-order is we're not waiting on the miners, just the accessories. The PCBs are already built, the heatsinks are drilled out, the fans are here. Right now the only thing keeping me from shipping out miners on Monday is waiting for USB cables (broker sent the wrong ones last week), power bricks and the sweet logo decals (which are coming from a print shop across the street).
As for noise, it's pretty quiet. 80mm 160mA 12V case fan. I don't have a decibel reading but it's quite nonintrusive from more than a couple feet away.
Real-world power draw is going to depend on your power supply efficiency. I believe the bricks we have coming in are rated for 87% or so; 419mining is the go-between there so he can tell you the specs better. I spent about 10 hours the other day getting efficiency data from several units so once I finish charting the last ones I can put up some good info for different frequencies at different voltage settings, with margins for deviation and the like. But in general you're looking at a machine-level range from about 75 to 100W/TH depending on volt setting (and other factors like board temperature).
I should probably start another thread to discuss it, but since you are much deeper into this stuff then I am, when it comes to power supply efficiency at lower power (applications like this) does efficiency really matter? There are certain losses that are always going to exist in going from 110/220 AC to 12V DC. At the lower wattage can you even really get to 90%+? If I get a dozen pods then yes going for a "platinum" PS will matter. But is there a real difference running 1 plus the RPi? As I said probably a good discussion for a separate thread but it's just been hanging out in the back of my brain for a while. Thanks, Dave
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In the old days when you did a pre-order you worried that you may not get it. With sidehack & you I know I am getting it, now just the anticipation is killing me.
How is the power draw in the real world? Sound level?
Thanks, Dave
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I don't have a Trezor, but have a couple of Ledger Nano S wallets. One seemingly unique feature is the MicroSD slot. From their docs:
Why does it have a MicroSD slot?
The Coldcard can backup the seed into an encrypted file. New transactions to be signed, can be imported from the card. Public key data (xpub, receive addresses) can be written onto the card. Firmware upgrades can be done by copying the new firmware file onto a card. A skeleton Electrum wallet can be created on the card which allows Electrum to "pair" with the Coldcard, without it ever connecting to a USB port.
The second one, in particular is interesting, as it makes completely air-gapped transactions possible. I don't know of any others that can do that, at any price. There may be, I just don't know about them.
That is actually how I use it, I have a wallet on my phone that is hot. If it gets compromised it will suck but it's not end of the world money, it's not even car payment money, it's I bought something in the collectibles section of the forum money. For the big spends, with my cold BTC storage, the wallet never touches the internet. Only complaint really is the MicroSD. Yes it's used everywhere, but you can't plug it into your PC / laptop without the micro to full-size adapter. Yeah, I know not a big deal but it would have been nice to have a full size one. Shameless plug, I do have an original cold card up for sale if you want it New & sealed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126007-Dave
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I know a few pages back you said that you needed some help with OpenCL, did you find anyone able to help? I am sitting on a bunch of older RX470 cards and figure this would be a good way for them to spend their retirement years :-)
If not, no big deal but I can always hope.
Thanks, Dave
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