The devs are working on ARCH?
They didn't even have enough time for VRC with their schooling, how in the hell can they focus on an additional coin? This is a joke.
Want a solid dev? Go look at kingscrown and EXCL. That guy makes shit happen
Arch dev walked because he struggled with variable interest. Arch asked us for help and we are. Vrc is our coin that will not change. Just helping a community in need. If helping is food for FUD stories so be it. Childish games are a waste of time. |
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Hey guys! Although there is some merit to some of AltCoinUK's concerns... his delivery completely overrides his message IMO. Implementing an idea is infinitely more difficult than simply dreaming one up. We're in a Bear Market - everyone's down. Even BitCoin. Doug and Pat fixed some issues regarding the Variable Interest with ArchCoin. The Devs Edgar had couldn't get it done so he asked VeriCoin give him a hand. They've already fixed a majority of it and are now simply tweaking the GUI etc. As far as VeriCoin goes... Pat is working with James regarding VeriCoin's role within the SuperNET core. DeCentralized Cloud Storage is great for numerous reasons including revenue. That is just one feature. On the mainstream side of things... Doug is working on VeriCoin's current PoS protocol in a major, major way. Aside from that... we are in talks with someone who is held in high regard in this space. The recent FinCen ruling has thrown Digital Currency for a loop - as a whole. The SuperNET will take lots of time to implement. Protocol changes will take lots of time to implement. These are long term endeavors that we hope will put VeriCoin in great positioning for the next Bull Market. And when I say long term I mean... 6 months to a year. Give or take. Look... we know it's not easy for everyone right now. It's not easy for me. It's not easy for Pat or Doug. We're all "down". But we're still here and we hope that you'll join us on this long term journey - if not... we completely understand. We are also all for constructive criticism but when that criticism comes along with insults and unfounded conspiracy theories... it doesn't do anyone any good. We have fair forums where anyone can post whatever they like - within reason. Please register at www.VeriCoinForums.com and chime in with ideas. Yesterday a user named Michael posted a great idea for the community to latch on to. Come have a look! Thanx for your time, patience and perseverance. If we all chip in - we'll get there.  Thanks Jay Jay, well said. |
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I'm actually developing a modification to the Proof of Stake protocol right now for the VRC long run. Many perceptions are jaded by price.
I don't think these promises hold weight anymore. sub 6k... and still playing games! I'm sorry you think this way. Believe what you will, I can't baby sit a bear market, still developing. |
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I'm actually developing a modification to the Proof of Stake protocol right now for the VRC long run. Many perceptions are jaded by price.
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Any reason for to current drop in price ?
Yes, there is a reason. The market is disinterested and apathetic about VeriCoin. Apart from failures and disappointments the devs being delivering nothing for the market, consequently the price is low. When the VRC devs announce such irrational shambles like the decentralized cloud storage then the investors just say, oh dear, here we are again, another pathetic vericoin idea, and the investors put the money into more sensible ideas. Don't get me wrong, the VRC devs are very nice, talented and intelligent young men, but unfortunately their inexperience in business and the arrogance of youth prevent them to understand their target audience, business in general, incorporate good ideas and valuable suggestions from intelligent and experienced users like Barabbas, Monsieur Lupin, Kleineapp, etc. As most of their professional and life experience is from a PhD student lab, they just don't have the skills to perform this business (yet) and can't deliver a thing that worth any investments. That's the reality. That's why the price is 8k. What cheerleaders, fanboys says about how great Vericoin is irrelevant, the price speaks for itself. However, as the market disapproves basically everything that VRC delivers, the devs will be getting desperate soon (just like they were desperate not long time ago when James offered his deal and the devs being under pressure, mainly from us, and took that offer). Then, the devs will admit that the cloud storage, VeriBit, VeriSMS, VISA card and other delusional nonsenses is not valued by the market nor crypto currency users, and then they will start thinking about to deliver something that matters. I think in long term VRC will be fine, because the devs are intelligent enough to learn from their own mistake, but this unnecessary long chain of irrational ideas like the decentralized cloud storage could be certainly avoided by being more open minded and less arrogant. AltcoinUK, I appreciate your balanced approach to giving criticism here. Thanks. I do appreciate constructive criticism, it's what all people need to grow and change, it's just hard to hear when it's unbalanced and overly critical. Ultimately I am a scientist, I want as close to objectivity as possible. What do you think is our best move at this point? I wonder what it is you think would be a great addition to the technology. Also although I have over 5 years of full time C++ coding experience, I had never done an opensource github project before so I didn't understand all the github conventions when we started this coin. So ultimately it looked like a scam coin github, lol, because I didn't fork it properly and so on. I have since improved the github and have started adding updates to the protocol and have started a new phase of coding novel protocol updates. https://github.com/vericoin/vericoinBefore getting into the technicalities, in my opinion there is a bigger problem, your marketing and current theme. Your current message that VRC is better than BTC doesn't say anything for the mass, your target audience. If I would be you, I would push very strongly the theme that Barabbas has put forward here, the Bank vs. honest, pure digital currency message. Two young scientists offers alternatives to greedy and corrupt banks, it's a perfectly marketable theme, even people like me who don't speak English a great deal get that Banks vs. people friendly digital currency message immediately. As for in which area to progress, if James could collect 5 million $ and Ethereum was able to collect 25 million $ then one would think your transparent team - that terms of marketability is in a far better position than James and terms of marketability you are in the same league as the Ethereum team - is in a prime seat to be successful in this market. Still your coin is in a very bad shape. I fully understand you don't have the resource that Ethereum has, on the other hand James demonstrated that small scale operation and a clear and sensible idea could be successful even in this dried out market. In my opinion, pick up a blockchain 2 feature, something that can be incorporated into your blockchain. I fully get that's what you try to achieve with the decentralized storage, but that use case is not a good idea (see above your community tells it's why not a good idea). So what is the area to progress? In my opinion, either the decentralized marketplace or decentralized exchange, terms of software engineering both of them doable just like you can do the decentralized cloud storage. One thing is sure, you need to do something terms of software development to have a unique selling point and be more than one of the +500 BTC/LTC forks. I am sure you will figure out :-)) the main ingredients to success are consistency and not giving up, and scientists like yourself have those attributes. These are good points. Thanks. We will have decentralized exchanging through SuperNET so this would be redundant likely. What in a decentralized marketplace would be bought and sold? Question to the community, what would you want to buy in a decentralized marketplace with VRC? |
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Any reason for to current drop in price ?
Yes, there is a reason. The market is disinterested and apathetic about VeriCoin. Apart from failures and disappointments the devs being delivering nothing for the market, consequently the price is low. When the VRC devs announce such irrational shambles like the decentralized cloud storage then the investors just say, oh dear, here we are again, another pathetic vericoin idea, and the investors put the money into more sensible ideas. Don't get me wrong, the VRC devs are very nice, talented and intelligent young men, but unfortunately their inexperience in business and the arrogance of youth prevent them to understand their target audience, business in general, incorporate good ideas and valuable suggestions from intelligent and experienced users like Barabbas, Monsieur Lupin, Kleineapp, etc. As most of their professional and life experience is from a PhD student lab, they just don't have the skills to perform this business (yet) and can't deliver a thing that worth any investments. That's the reality. That's why the price is 8k. What cheerleaders, fanboys says about how great Vericoin is irrelevant, the price speaks for itself. However, as the market disapproves basically everything that VRC delivers, the devs will be getting desperate soon (just like they were desperate not long time ago when James offered his deal and the devs being under pressure, mainly from us, and took that offer). Then, the devs will admit that the cloud storage, VeriBit, VeriSMS, VISA card and other delusional nonsenses is not valued by the market nor crypto currency users, and then they will start thinking about to deliver something that matters. I think in long term VRC will be fine, because the devs are intelligent enough to learn from their own mistake, but this unnecessary long chain of irrational ideas like the decentralized cloud storage could be certainly avoided by being more open minded and less arrogant. AltcoinUK, I appreciate your balanced approach to giving criticism here. Thanks. I do appreciate constructive criticism, it's what all people need to grow and change, it's just hard to hear when it's unbalanced and overly critical. Ultimately I am a scientist, I want as close to objectivity as possible. What do you think is our best move at this point? I wonder what it is you think would be a great addition to the technology. Also although I have over 5 years of full time C++ coding experience, I had never done an opensource github project before so I didn't understand all the github conventions when we started this coin. So ultimately it looked like a scam coin github, lol, because I didn't fork it properly and so on. I have since improved the github and have started adding updates to the protocol and have started a new phase of coding novel protocol updates. https://github.com/vericoin/vericoin |
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I do not normally agree with barabbas, but he is exactly right as to what a decentralized cloud service like the one JL wants would be used for, that I and anyone else that has dived into the deepnet can assure you. I guess vericoin has decided to abandon any and all hope of being the legal whitehat coin of crypto now to join the darkside. I do not doubt the majority of deals that vericoin has made thus far in its life span have been made with good intentions in mind but let us be honest they seem to have not accomplished much but to tarnish its reputation and burn its investors. you are trying too hard to make things happen and have ended up making deals and entering negotiations with people with conflicting interest and have come across as looking desperate for investors to many people in the crypto realm with the "donating" of coins to whales, outsourcing your coding to other coins in return for investment, spaming of twitter, etc. vericoin never needed these deals with these people or these other coins. Vericoin needed to be the ONE coin to end this trend of investing with sh*tcoins/sketchy devs and embrace regulatory framework. it needed CONTRACTS with legal up front buisnesses in the industry like BitPay that would fully comply with any and all regulations, and then use that + veribit to set the market price indepedent of exchages... but they want nothing to do with VRC now.  VRC needed to be the jedi of crypto... now this coin is starting to be seen as the sith working with Jen'ari Palpatine I urge critics to work toward making your vision for VeriCoin a reality. In this way you may feel more empowered, like many others in the community, there is no way for us to make all investors happy and therefore if you want something in particular to happen work toward it like we are, we will welcome it. |
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Trying out the in-wallet "buy VRC" function... litebit.eu
Bug report:
The radio buttons (payment method, male-female, ...) are jumping around without clicks, just by mouse-over.
VRC v1.4.1.1-g32a928e on windows7sp1
Pls update to the newest wallet 1.4.1.2 should be the download on the website www.vericoin.info , just install on the top of it. Thanks a lot! In the process of downloading it. > download on the website www.vericoin.info--> http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoin_1.4.1.exeBUT that IS STILL CALLED VeriCoin_1.4.1.exe  - PLEASE change names when incrementing versions. If I had seen there is a new version, I would have tried that first, of course. Also, please consider to use the alert service inside the protocol, to announce new versions --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=566164 (last 2 lines "EDIT: ...") Thanks. [...] --> http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoin_1.4.1.exeJust installed it. No, it's still the same version, sorry Inside the wallet: v1.4.1.1-g32a928e vericoin-qt.exe Properties --> Product version: 1.4.1.0 Date modified: 30/09/2014 02:02 If on windows uninstall first, in remove programs, then install. It seems you may need to reload the block as well. www.vericoin.info/downloads/bootstrap.dat |
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Thanks noashh! Will do, we appreciate it! |
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I just got official word from jl777, VeriCoin is part of the SuperNET core! We are currently building SuperNET integration into the wallet and working on a special feature for SuperNET with jl777! Details of this new feature to follow further development.
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Ok, I will ask again. What are you trying to get out of this? We all know you are a bag holder like the rest of us but how is what you are constantly going on and on about helping the coin and community? If you could please just answer this very basic question. We all would like to know. Actually I do lot more than the vocal cheerleaders combined, as I point out problems and suggest solutions. You remember, I said to stay away from Moolah and its wanker CEO and concentrate on software development instead, then again I was the FUDder and now you can see who Alex Green and what Moolah is. Similarly, I have been asking here for months that lets put time into the software development instead of talking about delusional mass adoption fantasies and suggested a few areas to progress - then again I was the FUDder as I was pointed out that there isn't enough progress terms of software development. Then James came and proved exactly what I said: the right technology could bring money into any crypto projects. If the VRC devs would listen me instead of being stubborn about their vision and direction, and concentrate on the technology aspect of the project, present a viable development plan like James did, then they could collect the few million $ without James. Again, I am not saying that I support the Supernet idea, all I am saying that it is possible to increase market capitalization with a sensible technology idea (what I had been suggested here for months), just like James was able to collect money. The cheerleaders bring nothing to the table. Don't get me wrong, I think what for example Scott or Kevondo does is very important for the community, peoples who actually do something are important for any communities, I am talking about cheerleaders like that Jay Jay boy and his scammer friend Wizrig, they are useless and bring nothing to the table. It's ironic that the what you do (complaining ('suggesting')) is more important than what Jay Jay does (PR, marketing, QC, Forums, Networking). Get to work man or you are just wasting your time and ours. We are busy doing, while you are busy saying. |
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Otherwise they're normal dudes and live "normal" lives.
I highlight and answer this statement, since I agree that the main asset of the coin is the honest and transparent developer team. Most of us invested into this coin because the transparent, professional, marketable and intelligent development team was quite a unique phenomenon in the crypt scene at the time. Later, a few weeks ago was great to see the devs evaluated James' offer and entered into a partnership with him. Not that I expect Supernet can be successful, quite opposite, I am sure a year time no one will remember what Supernet is (except people who lost money with it), but the willingness of the VRC devs for collaboration is very encouraging in going forward, because I believe soon or later the market, investors, including VCs will see the value in this transparent, marketable and professional team. Now you see, only that statement was worth to quote from your nonsensical rant - that's how little you bring to the table. You think the devs write great code and I am not going to debate that with you, because you know nothing about software development (I pointed out here a few times how little the three VRC devs added to the forked source), you don't know what software development is - you are just a delusional Monday morning software quarterback who irrationally believes that a start-up business being developing here. You and your incompetent team caused a huge disappointment with the VISA card which "project" was hyped for 4 weeks and then we realized it is the lamest idea ever. For many investors that was the final nail in the coffin and sold out their bags. You delusional cheerleader had been pushing the message for months about the partnership with Moolah, well after every one could see how incompetent that hacked operation was. My lawyer spoke to Moolah after the hack because I had some coins there and when he came back he said they are a bunch of wankers. Then I said here and even on IRC that stay away from Moolah, Moolah is a bunch of wankers, forget the Moolah deal and concentrate on the software development - then I was the fudder again, even Nosker kicked me out from IRC because I was dare to spread FUD about the great Moolah. I did the due diligence about Moolah, the cheerleaders took it emotionally, that what I found out destroys their dream. (I don't expect you know what due diligence is in business partnership even you are, unlike me, an English speaker) Now, you try "to strike up conversations with legitimate people and services that would benefit VeriCoin", which means the next disaster most likely on its way to vericoin. Individuals like your friend the scammer Wizrig and yourself with your delusional business plan about being the next Bitcoin do nothing good for the coin - see the price which is 9k after you have been messing up things for months. As I said better if you take an intellectually less challenging role like be a water boy and just support the devs in progressing with the software. If you have all the 'answers' do something constructive for VeriCoin instead of just complaining, or is that all you really want to do? |
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lol @ everyone blaming vrc low price on btc going down and upcoming ipos like bro.
put ur blame towards mintpal and supernet.
b/c of mintpal hack we pulled trading support... with the intention to repush once bottomed out. that price rise barabbas claimed was from worldvrc day.... yeah that was a test pump from us looking to see if vrc had bottomed and if it was time to repush the price that just happened to coincide with his post about vrcday or w/e it was. but we will let him keep thinking as he wishes....
then supernet happened and let me ask why would we support a coin when 10% of mrket is going to b given to someone to dump when supernet dies just like UNOCS did when feathercoin left that.
and definatly lol at barabbas now being 110% supernet supporter...
one of our ppl tried to tell u we had plans 4 vrc. and if we had stuck to those vrc price would already b at .00075+
but instead of listening all of ur cheerleaders got scared market might actually be manipulated and that there might really b a group like ours with veri large holdings in the coin so they decided to label us as fud and blame us for attacks on vrc... when u should b looking else where.
we were only trying to speak up and prevent this coins community from making and a coin killing mistake of giving away control of 10% of the market to someone to use as a pump and dump to support something sketchy, questionable, and not even in existence yet.
who in there right mind would make a move to trust such a giant chunk of a multi-million dollar market
to some1 with such little accountability and such a giant conflict of interest in exchange for something that is just vaporware.... no company i know would.
so enjoy ur supernet payoffs paid for by dumping coins ppl have given jl to join supernet... while u keep pushing jls worthless assets...
but vrc price will continue down unless ur one and only whale JL777's buying support out weighs our selling weight...
looking at the charts for bbr and other coins that where given to jl.... still believe in that so called JL effect.
supernet is a joke. only ppl supporting it are nxt'rs and noobs that have only been in btc for less then a yr like all those that were burned by zeta....
We have never and will never make decisions based on one investor or investment group's opinions, including jl777. If your group wants to threaten dumping in return for action then I believe you are in the wrong place, as so many others with the same view have been. |
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Not much news here lately.
But no wonder there is no news when the whole crypto market is in a bit of chaos. Probably Bitcoin will survive and consolidate terms of its presence in everyday life, but all these interesting experiments like Litecoin, Vericoin, Blackcoin, Viacoin, etc. will disappear and of course Supernet too. No usage for these aforementioned altcoins whatsoever (we discussed in this and other threads lengthy that slightly better functionalities like quicker transaction time, more attractive wallet, etc. mean no real advantage over Bitcoin), users can do fuck all with altcoins, therefore the altcoins must and will disappear. Sorry, I wish I could bring a better news for you my fellow vericoin bagholders :-))
Looks like you didn't get the memo, nearly everyone that was here is in the new Forum. Plenty of conversations going on in there. Hard to keep up it's so active. Vericoin isn't going anywhere, sorry to disappoint. Yeah guys come over and check out the new forums, over 100 posts/day is not uncommon: https://vericoinforums.com/ |
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Hey guys, sorry for this issue, it has been a pain. The exchanges, supernodes, block explorer, most nodes are on the correct chain, but some are not after the supernodes went down. We have upgraded the protocol version of this wallet to protect against being on the wrong chain. Please uninstall, clear appdata folder leaving wallet and conf, and install this version if you are not in sync with explorer, or have the checkpoint error. If you are in sync with explorer and don't have checkpoint error, then just install new version, you don't need to clear the blockchain. If you go to console in help after install it says 1.4.1.2. This should resolve any remaining issue. Thanks and sorry for the bother. If you have the old wallet 1.3.4 you can experience the same problem, you should upgrade. Block Explorer: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/#New windows wallet: http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoin_1.4.1.exeNew Mac wallet: http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoin_1.4.1.pkgThis is the main links on the site as well, new bootstrap coming you can wait for, or just start downloading the chain normally by opening the wallet. I downloaded the latest linux wallet and it is still 1.4.1.1 Should be up now |
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Hey guys, sorry for this issue, it has been a pain. The exchanges, supernodes, block explorer, most nodes are on the correct chain, but some are not after the supernodes went down. We have upgraded the protocol version of this wallet to protect against being on the wrong chain. Please uninstall, clear appdata folder leaving wallet and conf, and install this version if you are not in sync with explorer, or have the checkpoint error. If you are in sync with explorer and don't have checkpoint error, then just install new version, you don't need to clear the blockchain. If you go to console in help after install it says 1.4.1.2. This should resolve any remaining issue. Thanks and sorry for the bother. If you have the old wallet 1.3.4 you can experience the same problem, you should upgrade. Block Explorer: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/#New windows wallet: http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoin_1.4.1.exeNew Mac wallet: http://www.vericoin.info/downloads/VeriCoin_1.4.1.pkgThis is the main links on the site as well, new bootstrap coming you can wait for, or just start downloading the chain normally by opening the wallet. |
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As long as i have a good complex password on i, I should be fine, I kinda freak out doing it for staking, cause last wallet did not require a password to withdraw when in staking mode.
That is one of the main reasons this wallet is more secure, there is no full wallet unlock at all anymore. Now it would require at all times a full hard brute force of your password to get your coins even if they got your wallet.dat. |
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Just a question, how extensive is this wallet upgrade been tested by for bugs etc ?. I mean like possible attacks or theft as well.
It's more secure and has been tested well. The protocol itself has not been changed. |
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1st it was wiz... then jl777.... now bitcoinsachs.... well then....  What do we have to do with bitcoinsachs? |
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