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26.5% premine divided among 5 team members. About 5.2% EACH.
I dont listen much to sock puppet accounts. Guys be mature and use your real accounts plz.
Thanks
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Im going to hear more feedback from community from different people. The community matters most, and has a massive influence on me. But I need to hear from as many people as I can. Its clear there are 2 people here that dont want me taking over a dead coin. I will wait to hear from many others.
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I want to just also say that Im BIG on community feedback. If enough people say they want or dont want , then I listen. It doesnt mean I will always do it, but most of the time there is a compromise.
Also I work I very different way than anyone else.
You will see EVERYTHING. If there is something you wonder about, ASK ME. I promise you I will give you ANYTHING XDE 1 or XDE2 related. Wide open for the world to see.
You will KNOW our teammembers wallet address, it will NEVER change. So you can watch us. You will know MY "XDE1" address now, it wont EVER change, it has never changed.
XDE1 addy : XS1pNiXXYnLCr4Mt7iyp4PnJzF7EEpCeY4 Yes, I BOUGHT these with my own MONEY!
NOTHING will be hidden! Newbie devs hide EVERYTHING, because they are lying, stealing thugs. I am not. Ask anything, I will show you anything now, and at anytime. Why? I have NOTHING TO HIDE.
In my world, its no big deal to pay a professional thousands of dollars for their expertise. I can assure you , over the years, my team will actually be UNDER paid per hour of what we normally make.
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Let's say there are now 200 coins.
Let's say I own 10% of those, so 20 coins.
You are the op and also own 10% of the total amount.
Now I won't participate in the swap. And you now want to claim MY COINS as yours. WHY?
just because you are the best guy in the world? such a successfully trustworthy talented man.
WHY should my action lead your total coin percentage from 10% to 20% just because someone did not participate?
First I am NOT the best guy in the world, it just looks that way when im in cryptoworld, because im sorrounded by scammers and liars and thieves. So are you suggesting to set some XDE II aside for say 1 more month for late comers? I think thats fair. Vegas No, I'm saying you should burn unused coins, because they don't belong to you and you don't deserve them. I didnt say burn them either. I said we can let people swap 30 days AFTER swap closes and the team can all divide it evenly. Example: Someone shows up on February 14th 2015, and says hey, Im just hearing about this, I have 2 XDE to swap. Our team of 5 will send that person a total of 14 coins. Each team member will send 2.8 XDEII to that person. Sound fair? |
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Let's say there are now 200 coins.
Let's say I own 10% of those, so 20 coins.
You are the op and also own 10% of the total amount.
Now I won't participate in the swap. And you now want to claim MY COINS as yours. WHY?
just because you are the best guy in the world? such a successfully trustworthy talented man.
WHY should my action lead your total coin percentage from 10% to 20% just because someone did not participate?
First I am NOT the best guy in the world, it just looks that way when im in cryptoworld, because im sorrounded by scammers and liars and thieves. So are you suggesting to set some XDE II aside for say 1 more month for late comers? I think thats fair. Vegas |
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again, here is my question. answer that.
why do you guy's think your team should get better staking wallets than any1 else? Because over the next few years we will be working on XDEII EVERY SINGLE DAY. You still think this will be one, maybe 2 wallet releases. We will continue making is better and better on a CONSTANT basis. We plan to add AMAZING features to the wallet, like real time inflation calculations, real time worth in your wallet, auto updates, and much much much. You still think we are going to make a wallet and run. Your are dead wrong. ALL of us will be here all of the time working on making this better and better everyday, WITHOUT complicating it. How do you know what I say is true? Look at fly thread! 142 pages in 90 days. I am 10000% dedicated to my work. I answer every, PM, every question. Respectfully, I hope Ive answered your question. Vegas |
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This thread is getting more interesting and if not messy by the minute, don't know what to think of it, yet.
Its a good thing. This all needs to be hashed out. Lets get it all out in the open. It is self moderated, but as long as people remain intelligent, they can ask me the hard questions, and I wont delete one post, and have not. Vegas |
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Be a real man. Do the takeover! Drop the BTC grabbing " super wallets"  If you are so certain you can make something out of this project. You don't need it Or payup yourself for the superwallets too! and keep the bitcoinadress public for EVERYONE, and even better, in escrow Thank you for keeping the conversation intelligent. My issue is this. I have dealt with business for the past 20 years, and I havent made loads of money every single time. But MOST of the time, I can turn anything that is completely dead into something brilliant. I truly believe that what I have setup is well worth our time. We are not just a bunch of random guys. We are all experts. Even Woody. I will simply say he is middle aged, and that man all his life , like me has written multi million dollar contracts, and bought and sold businesses. He is such an expert with money that today, he charges a lot of money to do what they call "Business valuations". He goes into businesses looking to sell their businesses, and writes a report on it that looks like a book with every single detail about this business and comes up with an amount. Its as thick as most thick books when the report is done. THAT is why we deserve whats proposed. Because ALL of us charge hundreds of dollars an hour in our real lives if we decide to work for someone. Its not greed, ITS WHAT WE ARE WORTH!!! Vegas |
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ok.. here is what all the fuss is about...
If you have been in crypto long enough, youve had a "newbie dev" create a large premine and then dump it all on our heads crushing the price of our investments. We have ALL been burned over and over and over again. We are changed by this. So we expect it to happen. I believe I am one of the most respected names in crypto. I would have to be the biggest scum bag on the planet, to throw away everything I stand for, for a few btc. That MAKES NO SENSE!! If I did that, I would NEVER be able to operate in crypto. THATS why I use my hero account. Thats why "THEY" use newbie accounts, they dump and gone. You can say whatever you want about them, after the newbie devs are gone , they dont care. I DO!!! When FLY didnt have antidump built in, my FLY wallet was worth over $100,000 , I could have EASILY dumped it all and left crypto. I DIDN'T!!! I didnt even sell 1 FLY coin. I didnt even think about it. My mission is greater than that.
Look if you still dont get it, its like this. Have you ever watched a full grown adult walk into a house they have never been in before and a tiny little dog barks, and that person jumps in fear. WHY? Because they were bitten 20 years ago by a dog, so that fear never goes away. The distrust in crypto is EXACTLY what I am trying to change, and damn its a fight to get that trust back. I am not saying trust EVERYONE, but I am also saying Maybe trust those that have hero accounts, research them. Find all the bad stuff they have done, and if its nothing, then give them a chance.
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Guys yes, FINALLY people are speaking up. I dont bite, unless you act like an idiot troll. Speak intelligently. I WANT you to ask me the hard questions. Really.. ask ANY and all questions. I wont dodge or evade. Dont sit and be angry and resentful, ask questions. Im serious. Please do NOT ask a question already answered or I will copy and paste my original answer. Thank you. I have also been BUYING coins. This aint no free ride. I am going to be invested thousands of dollars in this WITHOUT the premine!! So it wont fail, I wont let it!
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You begin a never ending discussion: Miners are greedy and sell for every last sat and litoshi of their mined coins, which is made by an equipment, what a normal user never reaches, because the MININGPOOLS are too big! You have to wait for years before u can experiment with prices!
Its also wrong to cry a scam for premined coins! There are much coins, which are premined and hold very strong on coinmarketcap! But the most important point you all forgot:
Its not a completely premine: Its a swap too! And YES...we bring this coin to a new life...and YES, we wanna be paid for our work!
Now the ugly truth in Bitcoin: 2% of the richest Bitcoiners hold over 95% of all Bitcoins! Now, I wanna hear ONLY ONE intelligent reason, why I should buy BITCOIN?
You all only see, what WE can earn, but u never see ur own opportunities. That is not businessthinking...You all, who cried right now, have also the opportunities to make a coin and bring money in cryptoworld! But you dont do that, because its easier to cry than to work! Its easier to FUD, than to bring a coin into life!
But its nice to see your faces on the table!
Greetz
Meta
You misunderstand me, not FUD and I have plenty of opportunities to earn without resorting to these schemes. Crypto happens to be my day job so don't tell me it is easier to cry than to work. Anyway, everyone is free to do as they wish in this space. I wish you all the best of luck moving forward. siameze I hope you dont leave fly thread. Maybe there was a communication misunderstanding. Youve been a great supporter, so my apologies for any misunderstanding. You have contributed a lot of great information. Thank you. Vegas |
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Team FLY..with respect.
I really dont see how launching a new coin through another swap with such a huge pre mine for you is going to help FLY or your credibility.
Pre mines are pretty much frowned upon in crypto and this might be the biggest one I have ever seen. Add to that the big stake percentages in special wallets you have given yourselves on top of being the top holders to start with.
I doubt you will get many buying into this. It just looks bad, like a really big cash grab.
Honestly, I am pretty disappointed in this move when you flat out declared that this was going to be your only coin. First I wont dance around this. I broke my word on this. Its for the right reasons, and its NOT money. But I am sad to say I am ashamed that I broke this promise. I respect your opinion. Thats first. I also see your side. However the reason large premines are frowned on is because time after time, scum greedy devs have taken the premine and run. I am going to prove that a big premine CAN be done with honesty and integrity. Most everyone knows here, I will NOT burn my investors, never have , NEVER will. So, everyone is still thinking about how they have been burned by a premine hundreds of times over, including myself. If I would have laid out a detailed roadmap for fly the day I created it, everyone would have looked at it and said "screw that". But, instead, everyone now knows, their money is in no safer place. Not even I can dump my coins. I dont even check the price of fly, its stable and rock solid. As I have stated many times in the past 1.5 - 2 years from now, we will relax the send fees for those that want to exit gently without crashing everyone. The other difference thats VERY important is when a dev creates many coins, they are simply doing it for profit, thats it. They are also ALONE with a fulltime job. I am with a massive team, and retired. Crypto is what I do FULL TIME, 7 days a week with a powerful team. BIG DIFFERENCE! So the single dev creates tons of shitcoins, with no value, no time put in, and they let them waste away, they have no time, or energy and no support. If you havent noticed, I am VERY dedicated, and WONT let either coin lose quality or integrity. So, better yet. Ill prove it to everyone. BOTH coins will continue to be the highest quality EVER, Ill prove again that crypto can be done with integrity and honesty. I WILL change crypto for the better, and PROVE "it doesnt have to be this way". One last comment really to everyone, keep XDEII in XDEII thread and fly in fly thread. Thanks in advance. I welcome any questions in the correct threads. You are all wonderful. Vegas |
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ok we have checked everything, and everything is working as it should. I know we have been update crazy non stop. Now everything is working , its time to relax. Its the only investment that you never have to worry about the price being dumped. Now that fly is running perfect, Ive been allocating some more time to the XDE II swap. We have considered doing high probability superblocks for 30 days to really get the engine cranking. There is actually a poll there to vote on the structure of the superblocks. XDE being over $100 a coin, this should make things very interesting indeed. For more info on my next coin see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1310435.0Vegas |
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I talk with Gentarkin on a daily basis , many times multiple times a day. He has made no mention of this website. So Im near 100% positive this is not his. He is away for the holidays , and I have no way to reach him. A red flag is our additional licenses are $30 NOT $25. Im not sure what we can do, but I have some ideas. Also the fact that someone paid and got nothing. That right there tells me its not Gentarkin. I can tell you with 100% certainty he would NEVER do that. Youll never meet a more honest person.
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But maybe you like GOLD  |
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Ok guys here is one of our graphics for the OP for "standard wallet" which is the free wallet. Wait until you see what the special wallets look like  Vegas |
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Guys Ive moved the swap dates closer because we have done so much so fast, but it still allows anyone that is involved in crypto about 3 weeks to find out about this. Im spreading the word as much as possible. New dates: The swap will begin Thursday January 7th 2016 at 9am PST The swap will end on Saturday January 23rd 2016 at 9am PST. NO MORE "OLD XDE WILL BE ACCEPTED AFTER THIS TIME". |
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So I added a new option I thought was cool: YES, and increase Superblock probability % x10 for only first 30 days. So existing holders will get biggest benefits from this, if it is the final vote  Vegas I like limiting the superblock period to 30 days. Rewards the faithful current holders and early buyers. Yup, thats exactly its purpose. We have plenty of room early to inflate, and "stretch our legs". Vegas |
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So I added a new option I thought was cool: YES, and increase Superblock probability % x10 for only first 30 days. So existing holders will get biggest benefits from this, if it is the final vote Vegas |
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Ive created a poll that I will leave posted for 10 days regarding superblocks. Here are the proposed numbers:
2% chance of 2x multiplier
1% chance of 3x multiplier
0.25% chance of 5x multiplier
0.12% chance of 10x multiplier
0.06% chance of 20x multiplier
please vote
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