Thanks for your feedback. So another option would be to payout based on holdings. In this model it still does NOT reward the rich. We would max out rewards at say 500. Im just throwing out ideas. This would not leave the guys with 100 behind, but would reward those that have purchased more and supported fly, and cause those that want more rewards to purchase more fly

So with increments of 50? To raise reward level?

Guys thanks for feedback. This atleast gives us a direction. We want more buying support on exchange, AND we want to support the little guy more, as they support us more.

If you guys have any more ideas , throw them out to us.

Vegas

All of your voices count. This is for you guys. The team gets nothing from Superfly. So you guys can shape it how you want. We just implement it.

Vegas

Well youve just proved how ethical I am. See, trolls spend days and days to dig up the worst most horrible facts they can produce, and the worst Ive ever read about me is, I stated FLY would be my one and only coin, and I broke my word on that. Ok fine. It also proves at the same time that , that is as bad as it gets, and if that is the worst ive ever done, you should feel very safe with me. If I had truly done terrible things , and a rotten scammer, it would be all over the forum, and its not, because I havent. Ive been upfront about XDEII, trouble started when you didnt think my team was worth being paid 1 XDE2 a day. LOL. Seriously?

Vegas

Mac Updated on OP
Windows 1.78 updated on OP

We did fix the buttons so they look a little better. You can download 1.78 from op or here:  www.bitcoinlasvegas.net/files/FlyCoin-qt-1_7_8-windows.zip

Also Autoupdate works brilliant. Just close and open your fly wallet and if there is an update it will show this:



Latest Autoupdate can be found here: www.bitcoinlasvegas.net/files/Auto-update.exe

Vegas

Thanks for your feedback. So another option would be to payout based on holdings. In this model it still does NOT reward the rich. We would max out rewards at say 500. Im just throwing out ideas. This would not leave the guys with 100 behind, but would reward those that have purchased more and supported fly, and cause those that want more rewards to purchase more fly.

Vegas

I respect the history behind XDE. The problem is that model has been tried over and over again, and has failed everytime. It wasnt because the coin wasnt fantasic, its because the price was outrageous. So there was no vol and nobody could afford it. THAT is the reason I need to inflate it, so that it starts moving again. Does this change everything that XDE is about? YES. But, I wont try a model that has continued to fail. I know what im doing and even though XDEII does not follow its roots, it will be a raging success.

Vegas

Ok so I give those guys at cryptopia a lot of slack because there are just the two of them. I gave them the wallet about 24 hours ago. Did they say they would do it today?

Vegas

Thank you Groggin, some people dont get it. They think its about ways to cheat the system. Ok I have a proposal.

We need more buy support on Cyrptopia. Its not terrible, and our coin is a few months old. I want to propose a solution and get feedback on what you guys think. Please remain professional.

Ok so with the 10% staking fee, Superfly finally is building its balance nicely. Now we have more, I want to start giving more away. Ive been giving about 5 FLY per person a week away. I want to increase that to 8-10 fly a per person per week, without draining the wallet.

So in fly its a give-gain, win-win. Here is my proposal:

Raise the min fly to 200 to qualify. This means that less people will qualify, BUT the rewards will be larger for those that do. This does NOT benefit the rich at all. It benefits those that buy/hold fly. This will generate more buy support which we need. It will also give more fly per week to those that support it. So less people qualify, but youll get more if you do. So lets get feedback plz.

The other thought was creating a weekly lottery. Min 100 max 1000 fly to qualify. The more fly you hold the more "tickets" you have. We would also need some way to prove its done fair. Someone mentioned using a public lottery somehow.

These are just ideas.

Thank you

Vegas

 

Well Ill simply say that because of the sensitive nature and conflict on both sides, I will swap for anyone and everyone and not post names. I will simply post XDE addy and XDE2 addy on the OP and amounts on both sides the minute the swap closes. For now Im tracking all that info on a spreadsheet, and will post it AFTER the swap closes. There are many XDE holders that are waiting to see what will happen. Well, follow your heart, and if that doesnt work, follow HISTORY.

Im stating officially, that its at my discretion, my option, weather, I swap XDE for XDE2 after January 23rd 2015 at 9am. What im saying is, if you simply didnt know, I will swap for you, but if your swapping just because of what everyone else did, I will decline you, and I WILL know the difference. So if thats your strategy, youll end up keeping a dead coin. This IS your best chance, its your ONLY chance, and its a fantastic one!

Here more: As you can see, this is about as fair as it gets. Now, here is the exciting part. With so many jealous people wanting me to fail, I will ensure the success of the coin, and work harder than I ever have. I will prove that getting paid a fair salary in crypto CAN be done ethically and honestly. I dont mean by everyone. I mean that I want to bring even more trust OUR team. As you can see our team has done nothing unethical or unfair. So the more the rebellious ones dont swap, the more that the supporters will get into the community XDE2 wallet, that now needs a name.

I will also make it a point to give out coins to each person that swapped and supported us in the first few days after the swap.

A few of my supporters are PMing me and all saying the same thing. The trolls are extremely jealous of my success. This came from multiple different people that dont know each other. So now its crystal clear. Ive never been a jealous person, and always want everyone to get ahead. But to those of you that are horribly jealous of me, your best thing is to get over it, and get on this ride. The more hate you spew my way, the more pressure I will put on you. Ill be specific. I will make XDE2 so attractive to swap, that it will be an easy choice. Ill say it another way "Your Jealously fuels me". I am now determined more than ever to prove how brilliant XDE2 will be. I dont care what it costs me to make XDEII more brilliant than ever, I will give out massive bonuses for the swap if thats what it takes. It would be impossible to resist. Success IS the ultimate revenge.

In fact, how is this for ya: I will give away a large percent of the community wallet after 30 days after launch. It will be divided based on order of when people submit their old xde.Example, if you are 1st to submit your old xde, you will get the largest portion. I will reveal the burn address after the swap. The sooner you turn in the bigger your portion. I will simply say, there have been a "few" that have swapped so far. So if you swapped now, you would easily get a large portion. Team Members excluded. Also to get rewards from community wallet , you must not have sold or moved coins. The burn address will be proof of who swapped when.


Vegas

Guys this post is not trolling its plain facts, and if you already dont like me, your really going to hate these numbers. They are so fair, they are almost unfair to the team:

Easy Comparison:

          30 days interest earned on 53 XDE2 coins:
Standard wallet: 9.5 interest     Platinum Wallet : 15 XDE2 interest

        60 days interest earned on 53 XDE2 coins:
Standard wallet: 34 interest     Platinum Wallet : 59 XDE2 interest

       180 days interest earned on 53 XDE2 coins:
Standard wallet: 90 interest     Platinum Wallet : 183 XDE2 interest

Ok there is the numbers, anyone is welcome to check it and dispute them, but they are correct.

As you can see, not so terribly unfair. Keep in mind, important: OUR TEAM IS DOING ALL THE WORK, WE SHOULD EARN MORE. NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME!

1 XDE2 coin a day each is NOT outlandish for our pay at 6 months.

See Ive already done all of these numbers. I also created it so it would inflate not to slow, and not to fast.

Keep in mind, the POS WILL 1/2 , many times , probably 3-4 times. We truthfully dont know when. This is to stop inflation, and retain the highest value, while keeping the pos attractive.

If we half at 3 or 6 months, we get much less. BUT that means it as massive success as the coins value is VERY high for EVERYONE.

Ive also created a "filler". That is the community wallet. Its to the benefit of those that swap. It is a 300% platinum wallet, and it is funded by unclaimed XDE2 coins. The address will be public, and funds will be given out on a very constant basis to those that support XDE2. NONE of the team members will get rewards from this ever. This makes it even more fair. Also because some of current XDE holders are being difiant and refusing to swap, it creates MORE XDE2 coins in the community wallet. Ill make it a point to hand out coins from this on day 1, so those that support us will start to compound faster.

Ive known this since I announced XDEII. Not one of you even bothered to take the time and REALLY calculate it. You all just WAY overreacted. Ill state as Ive said before, you are STILL able to swap anonymously.On the day of the swap Ill post the XDE and XDEII addys unless this situation calms down, then Ill gladly post names.

IM LISTENING......

Vegas

I can do that. Your sir might be the bridge that MAYBE joins us, I said maybe. Ok give me a few min.



Easy Comparison:

          30 days interest earned on 53 XDE2 coins:
Standard wallet: 9.5 interest     Platinum Wallet : 15 XDE2 interest

        60 days interest earned on 53 XDE2 coins:
Standard wallet: 34 interest     Platinum Wallet : 59 XDE2 interest

       180 days interest earned on 53 XDE2 coins:
Standard wallet: 90 interest     Platinum Wallet : 183 XDE2 interest

Ok there is the numbers, anyone is welcome to check it and dispute them, but they are correct.

As you can see, not so terribly unfair. Keep in mind, important: OUR TEAM IS DOING ALL THE WORK, WE SHOULD EARN MORE. NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME!

1 XDE2 coin a day each is NOT outlandish for our pay at 6 months.

See Ive already done all of these numbers. I also created it so it would inflate not to slow, and not to fast.

Keep in mind, the POS WILL 1/2 , many times , probably 3-4 times. We truthfully dont know when. This is to stop inflation, and retain the highest value, while keeping the pos attractive.

If we half at 3 or 6 months, we get much less. BUT that means it as massive success as the coins value is VERY high for EVERYONE.

Ive also created a "filler". That is the community wallet. Its to the benefit of those that swap. It is a 300% platinum wallet, and it is funded by unclaimed XDE2 coins. The address will be public, and funds will be given out on a very constant basis to those that support XDE2. NONE of the team members will get rewards from this ever. This makes it an even more.

Can anyone disagree?

Vegas

Yup. Im going to change things so that HONEST devs can finally make a living at this. What a lot of people also missed is , I spread out the premine over a very long period. We hardly make anything for a very long time.

Here are actual real numbers ANYONE can check and prove me wrong.

Platinum wallet 300% annual interest.
Starting : 53 coins.
Compounded daily: earned 15 additional coins after 30 days or each team member earns 1/2 a coin a day, Half of an XDE2 thats been inflated 7 times already. LOL  Is this unfair?



Lets look at 3 months:

Platinum wallet 300% annual interest.
Starting : 53 coins.
Compounded daily: earned 59 additional coins after 90 days or .65 (XDE2) a day. We dont even earn 1 XDE2 a day after 90 days!!! LOL  Is this unfair?

You read correct. EVEN at 90 days the team earns .65 a coin a day in interest.

At six months with platinum wallet compounded, each team member has earned 180 coins or 1 coin a day. Anyone want to scream unfair now?

So those of you screaming UNFAIR, have done NO math.

Everything I do is thought out, and has reasons.

The reasons are: If we wanted to earn the big money it takes about 1.5-2 years on non stop development. We get peanuts at the start.
This was created for YOUR benefit.
The OTHER reason, is most people wont have enough to dump for a long time.
This keeps the prices high for a long time.

See , I ran these numbers. Im a numbers guy. Its what ive done for the past 20 years, and so I already knew it was BEYOND fair.

Those that are screaming unfair clearly have done no math or taken the time to fully understand anything.

Im open to intelligent comments and feedback. But now, Ive shown how VERY fair it is, there will probably be silence.

Vegas

ok so lets say we agree to 2% then that is 20 coins per team member. Most team members will be getting gold wallets.

Using real world numbers. Realistically hardly any coins get to $2.50 after inflation or even stay there. So I use this number as a guesstimate. First year 20 coins compounded daily gets 241 coins at the end of the year. If our gestimate is correct then that would be $600 for an entire years worth of work!?!?!? Even in the most poverty stricken third world countries, I think they do a bit better than $600 a year.

Now some might argue , well its going to be $20 a coin after inflation. IF thats true, NOBODY has ANYTHING to complain about, and EVERYONE is making loads of money.

See, Ive already ran these numbers when they were proposed. Thats why they were rejected. I spent days before my proposal, and ran it every which way I could. So I was very familiar with many of the outcomes.

But sorry, I wont be working for $50 a month. Would you?

Vegas

Guys here is the latest update. Since everything is working all it does is update those exempt from withdrawal. It doesnt go into effect until block 46,000. So if you just got added, dont try to withdraw until :

1. I announce exchange has updated
2. We have passed block 46,000 and you find your name on the following list:

Latest list that will take effect at block 46,000 (providing Crytopia) is on new wallet.

https://github.com/CoinProjects/Fly-coin/blob/master/src/additionalfee.cpp#L218

Also we have a new autoupdate: Just run this to update your flywallet:

http://www.keesdewit.nl/fly/wallet/setup.exe

Vegas

For those of you that want to get as many XDEII as possible , now is the time. I feel certain people that dont like my project are dumping on yobit. A great time to get More XDE/XDE2

Vegas

Not yet. It will be announced here when new wallet is released.

Vegas

First thanks for your concerns. I wont argue that the coin is more centralized. Its meant to be. I will specifically address your concerns.


Yes isnt it wonderful. I Emptied the wallet around Christmas and handed out $500 worth of fly to all its supporters. Top holders got nothing. WOW! What a feeling.


I think it IS the most centralized coin. Thats why its still averages 200,000 sats while 99% of most alcoins are lucky to see 1000-2000 sats.

Correct. FLY will not work on most exchanges.

Well, NOBODY can dump. The fees would kill us. In time we will slowly relax the fees, and in the next 1-2 years, a gentle exit strategy will be put in place.
There is NO safer coin to buy, as this coin cannot be dumped. But , it is for long term users.


Yes, if you dump this coin and try to hurt everyone, you will feel its pain. NOT for short term holders.


Correct. Its an extreme coin. Its radical. It not for everyone. BUT, if you want a safe place to store your money without checking the price every few hours.. welcome.

Vegas



 

Guys I have been called a visionary throughout my life. I have always done things YEARS before everyone else adopts my ideas. Its happened time and time again.  Almost always I create an idea that is called "outlandish", "outrageous", "crazy" "ridiculous" and more. The reason , is its WELL ahead of its time. I retired a few years ago from my businesses , and wanted to work full time in Crypto. I see things well before they happen. Call it a 6th sense, I dont know. Just yesterday about noon here in Las Vegas, the many btc that Cryptsy was holding for weeks, I finally took the time to buy a different coin and remove it. One hour AFTER I withdrew the last coin, the news broke that Cryptsy had closed its doors and were missing. Ill glady provide proof to any trusted mature individuals. Anyway, throughout my life, my ideas are never accepted right away because at that time they dont fit with the way things "should be". So I watched the pattern of newbie devs come in and create some clone coin, make loads of promises, and disappear within a couple of weeks. This happened HUNDREDS of times over and over and over, many times a day, every day. Now the children here might think thats funny. Let me assure you, there is nothing funny or comical about getting scammed. This pattern was non stop. Its almost as if Crypto itself was crying out "DO SOMETHING!!!". I watched for over a year, people lose hundreds, thousands of dollars, and it made me sick. So, I thought well, someone will come along, and stand up and make this right. So I waited and waited, more people continued to fall for the same scam : create a clone coin, with nice graphics, make loads of promises, then newbie dev gone in 2-3 weeks. More people hurt. So I waited longer for someone to come and help us. He never came. The reason he never came, is that person is ME. I am the one that is setting the new structure of crypto, and setting the standards, and setting that standard extremely high. The same people that use all this time to spread fud and lies, have done NOTHING to make this terrible situation better. They think everything is a joke. There is nothing funny about people losing money. I created FLY as a safe haven, were people can put their money and KNOW it wont get dumped to hell. Is it WAY before its time, YES! Eventually people will catch on that its the safest place to put their money in Crypto.

So same thing is happening here. My ideas of creating new coins or swaps/takeovers is radically different. Why? The way it is done now DOES NOT WORK.

The reason they dont work is because honest devs would not dare ask what they are really worth to make a high quality product with an elite team with the finest support. The community would go ballistic.. and they did. But your all fooling yourselves if you think that a newbie dev is creating a coin because "he loves to do it, and has nothing better to do". By not being paid, he will scam anyway he can, or lie or cheat, and dump on the nearest exchange as soon as he can.

My way:

Lay all the cards face up on the table. Tell you how much we will be profiting. In this scenario because its a swap, I think the average user loses about 1% -1.5% of their net worth of the XDE they turn in to swap. A very small price to pay for quality. I Also believe that that 1% will EASILY be made back and more when XDEII is released. We will continually deliver the finest product, with around the clock support for many years to come. My team all lives in different time zones and that makes this possible. The coin will be continually developed and get better on a very regular basis. We wont beg for donations, the product wont die due to lack of funding (which is why 99% of coins die, because devs WONT work for free, and I dont blame them).

So, I see this as the way of the future. Elite , respected members will come together and form an elite team and will outline their plan. They will open the books for you to see. You will know what we are being paid. That is NOT being dishonest, that IS being honest, even if you think its too much. If you feel that way, then dont participate, thats all. They will all be respected Hero or Senior members with their reputations on the line.

So getting backlash for being a pioneer , a visionary is not new to me. Everytime I introduce a new way of doing something that has never worked before, there is a pattern. First its resistance, because its radically different, then slowly a few people that are watching begin to realize that the "new way" works MUCH better than the old, and they join the cause, and support it. Then slowly people begin to see, that this is a much better way for everyone. Has the "old way" worked, even ONCE?  We cannot be accused of scamming because scamming is representing one thing, and delivering nothing, and disappearing. NONE of that will happen. We will OVER deliver. We now MUST earn that money we are getting paid, because we are ethical and honest. So some of you may see this, and realize its for the best, and others still may want the newbie dev that runs off after a few weeks.

So guys cut me some slack, Ive not scammed anyone. I created a new honest way that everyone can profit. The people doing ALL the work make most of the money. I see nothing wrong with this at all. XDE2 is backed by a very honest and ethical and very talented team that is capable of anything you can dream of and ideas you couldnt even dream of.  

Before you judge me again, ask yourself, what have YOU done to make crypto a better , and safer place? NOTHING!

Welcome to the "New era of crypto".

Vegas

Guys I have been called a visionary throughout my life. I have always done things YEARS before everyone else adopts my ideas. Its happened time and time again.  Almost always I create an idea that is called "outlandish", "outrageous", "crazy" "ridiculous" and more. The reason , is its WELL ahead of its time. I retired a few years ago from my businesses , and wanted to work full time in Crypto. I see things well before they happen. Call it a 6th sense, I dont know. Just yesterday about noon here in Las Vegas, the many btc that Cryptsy was holding for weeks, I finally took the time to buy a different coin and remove it. One hour AFTER I withdrew the last coin, the news broke that Cryptsy had closed its doors and were missing. Ill glady provide proof to any trusted mature individuals. Anyway, throughout my life, my ideas are never accepted right away because at that time they dont fit with the way things "should be". So I watched the pattern of newbie devs come in and create some clone coin, make loads of promises, and disappear within a couple of weeks. This happened HUNDREDS of times over and over and over, many times a day, every day. Now the children here might think thats funny. Let me assure you, there is nothing funny or comical about getting scammed. This pattern was non stop. Its almost as if Crypto itself was crying out "DO SOMETHING!!!". I watched for over a year, people lose hundreds, thousands of dollars, and it made me sick. So, I thought well, someone will come along, and stand up and make this right. So I waited and waited, more people continued to fall for the same scam : create a clone coin, with nice graphics, make loads of promises, then newbie dev gone in 2-3 weeks. More people hurt. So I waited longer for someone to come and help us. He never came. The reason he never came, is that person is ME. I am the one that is setting the new structure of crypto, and setting the standards, and setting that standard extremely high. The same people that use all this time to spread fud and lies, have done NOTHING to make this terrible situation better. They think everything is a joke. There is nothing funny about people losing money. I created FLY as a safe haven, were people can put their money and KNOW it wont get dumped to hell. Is it WAY before its time, YES! Eventually people will catch on that its the safest place to put their money in Crypto.

So same thing is happening here. My ideas of creating new coins or swaps/takeovers is radically different. Why? The way it is done now DOES NOT WORK.

The reason they dont work is because honest devs would not dare ask what they are really worth to make a high quality product with an elite team with the finest support. The community would go ballistic.. and they did. But your all fooling yourselves if you think that a newbie dev is creating a coin because "he loves to do it, and has nothing better to do". By not being paid, he will scam anyway he can, or lie or cheat, and dump on the nearest exchange as soon as he can.

My way:

Lay all the cards face up on the table. Tell you how much we will be profiting. In this scenario because its a swap, I think the average user loses about 1% -1.5% of their net worth of the XDE they turn in to swap. A very small price to pay for quality. I Also believe that that 1% will EASILY be made back and more when XDEII is released. We will continually deliver the finest product, with around the clock support for many years to come. My team all lives in different time zones and that makes this possible. The coin will be continually developed and get better on a very regular basis. We wont beg for donations, the product wont die due to lack of funding (which is why 99% of coins die, because devs WONT work for free, and I dont blame them).

So, I see this as the way of the future. Elite , respected members will come together and form an elite team and will outline their plan. They will open the books for you to see. You will know what we are being paid. That is NOT being dishonest, that IS being honest, even if you think its too much. If you feel that way, then dont participate, thats all. They will all be respected Hero or Senior members with their reputations on the line.

So getting backlash for being a pioneer , a visionary is not new. Everytime I introduce a new way of doing something that has never worked before, there is a pattern. First its resistance, because its radically different, then slowly a few people that are watching begin to realize that the "new way" works MUCH better than the old, and they join the cause, and support it. Then slowly people begin to see, that this is a much better way for everyone. Has the "old way" worked, even ONCE?  We cannot be accused of scamming because scamming is representing one thing, and delivering nothing, and disappearing. NONE of that will happen. We will OVER deliver. We now MUST earn that money we are getting paid, because we are ethical and honest. So some of you may see this, and realize its for the best, and others still may want the newbie dev that runs off after a few weeks.

So guys cut me some slack, Ive not scammed anyone. I created a new honest way that everyone can profit. The people doing ALL the work make most of the money. I see nothing wrong with this at all. XDE2 is backed by a very honest and ethical and very talented team that is capable of anything you can dream of and ideas you couldnt even dream of.  

Before you judge me again, ask yourself, what have YOU done to make crypto a better , and safer place? NOTHING!

Welcome to the "New era of crypto".

Vegas