So we have an easy to read example to give everyone a rough idea what to expect. We think the WORST case scenario is $2.50 a coin, but we are confident we can perform closer to $5 - $10 a coin after the coin is inflated thousands of times over. This example is someone who has 3 xde right now. They trade it into the swap for 21 XDE2. Hypothetically the interest rate does not change in this scenario, and the investor stays invested for 2 years, and the worst price of $2.50 per coin becomes the price. It also answers the question: Is it worth it to purchase the high yield special wallets. Final values are with "special wallet" prices removed. You CAN sell your private wallet.  *NOTE: THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION. ITS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. All we can promise is when we feel the coin has healthy trading and price per coin is also high , we will adjust the pos to a healthy level to slow inflation and extend min # of stake days. Vegas |
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as i guess a normal user has nothing to do with superfly right ? Superfly rewards you gain by having a minimum of 100 fly, and by supporting fly on a regular basis (with proof). This could be talking about fly in troll rooms, or posting about fly on twitter, or helping people on the fly thread. and for the fees if i understand , buying on cryptopia cost 10% fees. No withdrawals are free. Just ask for an exemption to your address from Keesdewit. Contact Keesdewit and give him your fly address and ask for a withdrawal exemption. Keesdewit can be reached at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=390370and sending fly cost 12 to 46% ? This is our antidump mechanism. So dont send directly to exchange. When your ready to sell profit from fly , then generate a fly address at cryptopia and using the "savings" feature in fly wallet, point your staking to cryptopia wallet. This will cost 10% to stake there that goes to superfly wallet. Vegas |
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As promised we now have autoupdate for flycoin!!!! Simply download the following file and launch. It has an installer. The way it works: Install once. Every time you launch fly wallet it checks for an update, if one is available it will ask you if you want to update. If you say yes, it will update your wallet. Soon we will add wallet notifications were I will broadcast critical messages, such as updates, or status of exchange (up or down). Just more proof that flycoin is the most brilliant crypto ever created! www.bitcoinlasvegas.net/files/Fly-autoupdate.exeVegas Is there source code for this? Non-windows user and all. :/ If there isn't I will try decompiling if no one has objections. Also, Happy New Year to all! Here is the source, but as you can see its built to run on windows. If you can modify it for another platform such as linux/mac please supply binary. Thanks https://github.com/CoinProjects/FLY-Coin-auto-updateVegas |
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I finally staked a small amount of fly! I didn't realize even staking income is "taxed" at 10%  Ok so a few things for the newcomers. First make sure you get an exempted address so you dont pay any withdrawal fees from Cryptopia. Contact Keesdewit and give him your fly address and ask for a withdrawal exemption. Keesdewit can be reached at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=390370Also the guys at the top of the richlist by far pay the most in staking tax. Here is why: I am the top holder and average staking 100 FLY a day. Staking is 10% of that. So I pay 10 fly a DAY to superfly. You might pay .00001 a day to superfly , however when superfly pays out, it pays out VERY nicely. Last payout for christmas was 15 fly EACH!!! Much more than virtually anyone paid in. Also if you hold 5000 FLY or more , you are exempt from rewards. The rich NEVER get rewards from superfly, and pay the most in. So in simplicity, the rich guys pay most all of it in, and get NOTHING in return. It cannot be more fair than that. Vegas |
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@ Vegas If you sent FLY to this address F7AK4qRHUWUbpE7ZtAqdtWb5psRUToJUQe per our PM discussion during Xmas, it was sent into oblivion sorry  It was a cryptopia address and I just noticed their wallet was out of maintenance this morning. I am still 2-3 days from having my staking code ready, building for ARM machines is a pain. I actually didnt because the superfly ran out of funds. Its now funding faster than ever because of 10% stake fee. So I still owe you your holiday gift. Please post your new address here and I will send it to you. Vegas |
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Guys I might open the swap early, we are moving at light speed on this, I cannot even believe how fast we have been getting things done.. its insane!!!
So this is ONLY an idea. I could open the swap January 7th and close it January 21st. Because we will EASILY have everything finished by then. Right now I will leave everything the way it is until a get a couple of days of feedback. Im excited to get this rocking.
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I had 3 fly in cryptopia held for days due to the wallet maintenance. Today I was to withdraw it and the fee for withdrawing the 3 coins was more than 1.25!!! so I started to withdraw it on 0.25 chunks with 0.20 fees.
Is this the norm? remember that before the wallet went down fees were much lower...
You have to claim ur walletaddress! PM keesdewit and on the next update, ur wallet is exempt! Greetz Meta Thanks Meta I will do that, do we know when the next update will be and when i become exempt ? I obviously don't want to spend my BTC on buying FLY if it has to sit ion the exchange for months whilst waiting for an update. Thanks Crunck We will permanently update our wallets! The reason, that we implement the autoupdate-feature! I think, it will be discussed in our Team Fly slack the next hours, to regulate our updates! Of course we dont wanna mess ur investment-opportunities here, so I am sure, the solution will be found in few hours! :-) Great news and thanks for the prompt reply, it helps me determine where my spare BTC will go today  I have sent the PM as you suggested Thanks Crunck crunk what was the total fees, I can refund you one time. Vegas |
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I would encourage everyone to unlock their wallets and stake for the benefit of everyone.
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Very bad idea. Focus on FLY, and leave this one be is the best advice I can give you right now before you lose all credibility. A dev, or team with multiple coins does not work out. We've seen that in the past. Sorry Vegasguy but the way you think about yourself and your team is really way over the top. FLY is far from finished and perfect.
FLY had like 8 forks in 2 months, and a downtime of WEEKS on exchanges because the source was not tested well enough before releases.
I don't hold any XDE, but I still hold some FLY. And for an investor of FLY this does not look good. You promise full support for this coin, and your own FLY coin.
Maybe it is better to swallow up this coin into FLY itself if you really are determined to go through with this.
Ok XDE II is a whole different thing completely. With fly we were doing things that no one else would even think of trying. So with that comes a lot of trial and error. XDE II will be very basic. We are simply inflating it to its maximum value and added special wallets. XDE II will not have any of the challenges that fly had. It will stay very basic. Also when most devs take over more than one coin, they are alone. I am a team of 5 dedicated. So its not even close to the same. Also Im retired. So I cannot be compared to 1 dev with a full time job. Not the same. Vegas |
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Meta is correct. Everyone has been burned by a premine in the past. So they focus heavily on that. Like Meta said, this is a massive opportunity to get on board with a team that is very well known in the crypto world, and wont be dumping a premine and taking off. We are all respected professionals , and will be here every single day working for you for the next few years.
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I encourage everyone to ask intelligent questions. Thank you. Lets make sure everyone is clear what is happening.
Thanks
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what will happen with the unclaimed coins and 26.5% premined XDE II coins?
They will be divided among 5 team members. If everyone claims, we get about 53 coins each AFTER its inflated 7x like everyone else. Please keep in mind we are not just anybody. We are the best at what we do. Nothing is impossible, and these 53 coins will be about 2-3 years pay. XDE II will be a long term project. Our team of 5 will be working on this daily. We dont work cheap, but we are the best at what we do, and give 100% to our investors every single day. Vegas |
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As promised we now have autoupdate for flycoin!!!! Simply download the following file and launch. It has an installer. The way it works: Install once. Every time you launch fly wallet it checks for an update, if one is available it will ask you if you want to update. If you say yes, it will update your wallet. Soon we will add wallet notifications were I will broadcast critical messages, such as updates, or status of exchange (up or down). Just more proof that flycoin is the most brilliant crypto ever created! www.bitcoinlasvegas.net/files/Fly-autoupdate.exeVegas |
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You too Placebo. Happy new year!
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Guys your both obviously intelligent, and I am VERY serious when I say I welcome you to the XDE II thread to ask questions professionally. Please dont be aggressive, and hateful. Ask intelligent questions. I actually need you there the day of the swap to watch every single move I make with a microscope. Conduct yourselves professionally and you can stay and ask intelligent questions. If you start acting aggressive and throwing out random off topic statements, then I WILL delete your posts. But really, go to the thread, be nice and respectful, and ask anything that is XDE II related. Stay on topic. I welcome you in this manner. Please , Im trying to move everyone over to the next thread. I ask nicely, and respectfully dont post here. Now, welcome, and I will respect you as long as you respect me. Please , lets discuss XDE II. The thing Ive never understood I know you guys watch me carefully, so you also know I give away THOUSANDS of FLY. Its all over the FLY thread. Tell my im lying and I will fill this page with proof, over and over, all day long I give away LOADS of FLY to my supporters. You guys know in your heart that I am not a bad person. The proof is, if I was the proof would be splattered everywhere. Have I made dumb mistakes and said things I shouldnt have, YES! My point is this: You guys use all this energy towards me to discredit me. Why not BECOME one of us, and share the wealth. Ok.. find me ANYONE that has given away more money in crypto than me? I am generous to an extreme. So knowing that , why not become one of us, and BENEFIT? You dont even get joy from trashing my name. You take a lot of time to do it. But whats the point? What do you gain? Wouldnt you gain more by supporting a healthy project? Here is the truth, I started FLY with 58,000 FLY, I gave it away all the way down to 41,000 fly, and bought it back to 48,000 fly. I will do the same with XDE. Im not greedy, because I dont have to be. I LOVE giving money away. So its 2016 now. You can benefit a WHOLE lot more supporting me, and I think you know that. Dont you find it odd that FLY has 138 pages, and not 1 person that owns fly has ANY complaints?!!?!? Its not Moderated guys!!! I cant delete ANY of it. That ALONE PROVES for a fact that I have done everything ethical. Not 1 person has called me a scammer. Maybe Spiral, cause I got payback on him, so of course hes mad. But thats all history. I dont carry any hate for either of you. Really , lets have a fresh start. Too much hate in this world. Support me, and I will give you XDE as I have done with fly. Yes, Im serious. So Im not sure how you missed my acts of kindness and generosity over and over again. Ask yourself what scammer / greedy person gives away THOUSANDS of dollars?? In fact in my real life I give away more money in a year than most people make. I do Crypto because I want to leave this world a better place than I found it, and people that have never had money in their lives, now will. In case you missed it here is just some examples of my generosity. Now tell me how many scammers give away THOUSANDS of dollars. Answer: NONE. Acts of generosity and kindness. You have my FULL permission to contact ANYONE in these messages and verify its authenticity: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.msg13413107#msg13413107 Message #2796 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.msg13412594#msg13412594 Message #2794 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.msg13412141#msg13412141 Message #2791 The Fly address of Capnbdl getting my stakes: http://fly.dnsalias.com/address/F9fNusJLCQjt4qq87xfALquEqZSTrAjBDHhttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.msg13411302#msg13411302 Message #2785 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.msg13360183#msg13360183 Message #2669 Gave away 400 FLY to about 20 people for Christmas. About $500 +/- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=937480.msg13148755#msg13148755 Sent crestington $200 in btc to help the guy out. Asked for nothing in return. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.msg12897233#msg12897233 Spent 5 hours of my time , fixing his wallet. No charge  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1154550.msg12812132#msg12812132 This guy was hacked. Never met him before in my life. Just that he was devistated from a hacked wallet. Gave him .4 BTC of fly. There is probably 8-10 more in different threads, but you get the point. You guys are attacking a good, honest, and MOST generous and helpful and kind person. Nuff said. I will save these links for when Im attacked in any of my threads. I will just post these and by then I will have added more. So lets just be cool. Thanks. Thank you Vegas |
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Much nicer AG18. We are good people here. We do no harm and respect those that respect us. Please join us and you will see, if you treat us with respect, you will get more respect than you ever imagined. My wife LOVES polar bears, her favorite animal. Happy new year all!
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The swap will begin Thursday January 23rd 2016 at 9am PST
The swap will end on January 31st 2016 at 9am PST I think the time (1 week) to swap is too short, not everybody are looking on the alt section here Ok and thats why this section exists. So maybe 14 days? Start January 14th 2016 9am PST, end January 31st 2016 9am PST. Update: Ok 14 days to turn in old XDE, starting January 14th 2016, and 14 days advance notice starting today. Vegas |
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